Re: OT - Perl Question

2003-11-11 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 02:57:04PM -0600, Darryl Hoar wrote: > I am trying to learn perl. I am going through a tutorial and have come > across a syntax error I can't figure out. > > Here's the code: > > print "Please tell me your name: "; > chop ($name=); > > print "Please tell me your national

Re: recover from failed make build

2003-11-11 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 04:08:15PM -0500, Marty Landman wrote: > At 03:27 PM 11/11/2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: > >On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 03:18:25PM -0500, Marty Landman wrote: > >> I just tried doing a make build for Apache2 from the FBSD 4.8 mini port. > [snip] > > *** Error code 1 > >'mak

Re: Routing problems

2003-11-11 Thread Dimitris Xochellis
Hi List, hi Vince, --- Vince Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Dimitris Xochellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 6:43 PM > Subject: Routing problems > > > > Dear list members, > > > > I have two subn

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2003-11-11 Thread mikebond
Hello, I work at Las Positas College as a Technical Mentor, in a work-based learning program called LaPTechS. Many of our students have expressed an interest in learning about Linux and Unix. I was wondering if it is possible for a representative from your organization to come speak at a semina

Windows XP

2003-11-11 Thread Eric Greene
Hello. I would like to learn to use FreeBSD. I would also like to have the ability to choose between either Win XP Pro and FreeBSD upon starting up my system. I do have 2 40GB hard drives, plus Partition Magic if I need. My plan at the moment is to simply have Win XP Pro on one hdd, and FBSD

Re: Keyboard not responding, Dell PE2650

2003-11-11 Thread Olaf Hoyer
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Russell P. Sutherland wrote: > I have a fairly reproduceable problem with a new Dell PowerEdge 2650: > > After the machine has booted in a headless state (no keyboard > or monitor) and then one inserts a keyboard into either the > front or rear PS/2

Build a duplicate system - but upgrade OS version?

2003-11-11 Thread W. D.
Hi folks, I have a FreeBSD 4.4 webserver that's been working fine for nearly 2 years. This computer was purchased from a systems integrator, so I am not intimately familiar with how it was configured. I would like to build another machine that would be nearly identical, having all the same softwa

Re: Windows XP

2003-11-11 Thread Henrik Hudson
On Tuesday 11 November 2003 15:34, "Eric Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent a missive stating: > Hello. I would like to learn to use FreeBSD. I would also like to have > the ability to choose between either Win XP Pro and FreeBSD upon starting > up my system. I do have 2 40GB hard drives, plus Pa

sound recording questions

2003-11-11 Thread epilogue
hello all, a couple of questions: 1) have any of you had success installing ardour (ardour.sf.net)? if so, could you please contact me to review the steps taken? 2) audacity users: i currently have audacity-1.0.0_2 installed (audacity.sf.net). even though it invariably hiccups an error message

statvfs.h

2003-11-11 Thread M.D. DeWar
were do yo u get header files ? or can't you ? I am trying to load a webmin module and it needs some perl modules and one filesys::statvfs needs the header file statsvfs.h and I donthave it. thanks mark ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.

Re: What should i do?

2003-11-11 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Valerian Galeru wrote: i installed blackbox, a simple window manager. Cool. It doesnt have any web browser in it. That's because it's a 'window manager'. AFAIK, the only way to install a 'window manager' and get a browser in the process is to install a complete environment such as Gnome or KD

Re: recover from failed make build

2003-11-11 Thread Marty Landman
At 04:16 PM 11/11/2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: distclean removes the distfiles for the current port. Dumb question - is current defined as pwd? iow if I cd /usr/ports/www/Apache2 and then make distclean;make fetch will that attempt to reinstall my Apache2 port even though I ported something else a

Re: Vinum and reserved space

2003-11-11 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Tuesday, 11 November 2003 at 17:14:27 -, Chris Howells wrote: > Hi, > > I've just bought 2 x 160GB drives which I want to RAID 1 with vinum. I > used /stand/sysinstall to fdisk and disklabel them, mounted them as /temp1 > and /temp2 and checked the size of them using 'df' to stick into my >

Re: statvfs.h

2003-11-11 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
M.D. DeWar wrote: were do yo u get header files ? or can't you ? I am trying to load a webmin module and it needs some perl modules and one filesys::statvfs needs the header file statsvfs.h and I donthave it. thanks mark #find / -name statvfs.h -print /usr/include/sys/statvfs.h /usr/src/sys/sys

Re: recover from failed make build

2003-11-11 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 05:13:27PM -0500, Marty Landman wrote: > At 04:16 PM 11/11/2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > >distclean removes the distfiles for the current port. > > Dumb question - is current defined as pwd? Yes. > iow if I cd > /usr/ports/www/Apache2 and then make distclean;make fetch

Re: machdep.hlt_logical_cpus

2003-11-11 Thread Vivek Khera
> "LG" == Lowell Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> daemon# sysctl machdep.hlt_logical_cpus=0 >> sysctl: unknown oid 'machdep.hlt_logical_cpus' LG> Funny, it looks like it should be there as long as SMP is defined. LG> Maybe you didn't actually get the bits as of the release? I noticed s

Re: Vinum and reserved space

2003-11-11 Thread Chris Howells
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Thanks for the reply. On Tuesday 11 November 2003 22:16, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > I've just bought 2 x 160GB drives which I want to RAID 1 with vinum. I > > used /stand/sysinstall to fdisk and disklabel them, mounted them as > > /temp1 and

Re: recover from failed make build

2003-11-11 Thread Marty Landman
At 05:21 PM 11/11/2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > /usr/ports/www/Apache2 and then make distclean;make fetch will that attempt > to reinstall my Apache2 port even though I ported something else after? Yes. distclean works fine but fetch fails and tells me so. It reports no route to host on repeate

Re: Vinum and reserved space

2003-11-11 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Tuesday, 11 November 2003 at 22:44:01 +, Chris Howells wrote: > On Tuesday 11 November 2003 22:16, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >>> I've just bought 2 x 160GB drives which I want to RAID 1 with vinum. I >>> used /stand/sysinstall to fdisk and disklabel them, mounted them as >>> /temp1 and /t

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Chris Howells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Monday 10 November 2003 23:23, Alex Kelly wrote: > > So, it sounds like I should probably tackle C before C++. > > Not really, there's need to learn C if you just want to learn C++. Any decent > C++ book will teach you all you need to know without l

Re: Installation Hang

2003-11-11 Thread Nick P.
>You're problem looks interesting, what version of freebsd are > >you trying? 4.9 >Have you setup any swap space? if so how much? You can do this >when you setup >freebsd's. partitions. How big are the partitions >you've assigned? is there enough >space to install what you've >choosen to insta

Re: Installation Hang

2003-11-11 Thread Nick P.
>Did the disk slicer complain that your disk geometry was >incorrect? (I had that >problem, but it only failed on trying to >boot FreeBSD, not in the install, but >might be an issue for >some people.) I think I may have seen that message once in the fifty billion (well okay maybe thirty) insta

Re: Installation Hang

2003-11-11 Thread Nick P.
>You should try to switch to the diagnostic console and find out >what happens just >before it hangs (you'll know it has when it's >staying too long on the same line and >you can't switch to >another console) I'll try to look in one of the future times. I've switched to that console before. I

Re: Installation Hang

2003-11-11 Thread Nick P.
>Alt - F2 will give you a screen of console messages that were >experienced during >different stages of your installation. Look >for error messages or messages that have >been printed in FULL >CAPITALS. K. >Bin is the first major read operation from the CD-ROM that >occurs using the FreeBSD >d

Re: Newbie: Correct directory for file server

2003-11-11 Thread Scott W
Tom Munro Glass wrote: Depends on what philosophy you subscribe to- if it's on a local system only, then create a group for members that will need access to it, and create a directory in the /home tree, like /home/'project_foo If it's going to be NFS mounted by other systems, then create an /expor

no route to host (is it me?)

2003-11-11 Thread Marty Landman
After successfully doing a build for PostgreSQL I've tried refetching Apache, Mysql, and now CVSUP. Every attempt has failed with the subject msg as in my latest: >> cvsup-snap-16.1g.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/Fre

Re: portupgrade -arR

2003-11-11 Thread Chris
On Tuesday 11 November 2003 01:39 pm, Bjarne Wichmann Petersen wrote: > On Tuesday 11 November 2003 18:33, William O'Higgins wrote: > > Quite foolishly, I ran this command without thinking it through: > > > > portupgrade -arR > > Try the -n switch (ie. portupgrade -narR), this will show which ports

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread Chris Howells
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Tuesday 11 November 2003 23:02, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > each other. [There is a myth that C++ is a superset of C, but this is > not really the case.] C++ is based on C. Any C code (providing it does not use certain key word that are reserve

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 12:28:32AM +, Chris Howells wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > On Tuesday 11 November 2003 23:02, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > > each other. [There is a myth that C++ is a superset of C, but this is > > not really the case.] > > C++ is

cdparanoia doesn't compile

2003-11-11 Thread .VWV.
I have found the cdparanoia binary on the FreeBSD pages, but I still can't compile it, even having compiled the libgnugetopt 1.2. What have you done to compile it? VITTORI ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/fre

help for the Nautilus bastard

2003-11-11 Thread .VWV.
I'm at one step from having a unix desktop with gtk 1.x, with the gtkstep style, under GNUstep's Windowmaker, with the most part of the applications. I miss the Nautilus as for desktop manager. I have compiled either oaf or nautilus, but that bastard still doesn't start. I have also searched on t

Re: help for the Nautilus bastard

2003-11-11 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 20:49, .VWV. wrote: > I'm at one step from having a unix desktop with gtk 1.x, with the gtkstep > style, under GNUstep's Windowmaker, with the most part of the applications. > I miss the Nautilus as for desktop manager. > > I have compiled either oaf or nautilus, but that bas

Re: cdparanoia doesn't compile

2003-11-11 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 02:49:41AM +0100, .VWV. wrote: > > I have found the cdparanoia binary on the FreeBSD pages, but I still can't > compile it, even having compiled the libgnugetopt 1.2. > What have you done to compile it? Nothing unusual. Please post the commands you're trying to use and th

Re: Build a duplicate system - but upgrade OS version?

2003-11-11 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 03:34:23PM -0600, W. D. wrote: > Hi folks, > > I have a FreeBSD 4.4 webserver that's been working fine for nearly 2 years. > This computer was purchased from a systems integrator, so I am not > intimately familiar with how it was configured. > > I would like to build anoth

Re: Writing Device Drivers in 5.1-RELEASE

2003-11-11 Thread Jason
Gregory Nutt wrote: I'm trying to port the device driver for acx100 chipsets TO WORK ON FreeBSD. However, all the guides I'm finding make reference to files that apparently are no longer used such as: card_if.h device_if.h bus_if.h etc... and have been renamed to card_if.m, device_if.m, bus_if

Re: portupgrade -arR

2003-11-11 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 06:24:31PM -0600, Chris wrote: > On Tuesday 11 November 2003 01:39 pm, Bjarne Wichmann Petersen wrote: > > On Tuesday 11 November 2003 18:33, William O'Higgins wrote: > > > Quite foolishly, I ran this command without thinking it through: > > > > > > portupgrade -arR > > > >

Re: mouse curser

2003-11-11 Thread Alex de Kruijff
Would you mind modifing your mailer so that the lines are < 72? Long lines are a pain to read on the shell. On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 08:52:28PM -, Dagsylad wrote: > hi, i'm running windowmaker on a vodoo 3 card, all is set up nicely > and is displaying in 32bit color @ 1024x 768 the only proble

Newbie: The C / C++ Issue

2003-11-11 Thread Alex Kelly
Thanks for all of the great suggestions to my previous question! Yet, the responses have led me to another question. If C++ is newer and more advanced than C, will it replace C? If so, should I learn C++ and forget C? Alex ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing

Re: Two Preinstall Questions

2003-11-11 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 03:03:28PM +0100, Siegbert Baude wrote: > Hi Ralph, > > >I have two questions before I plunge in and make my first FreeBSD install. > >Normally I keep a back up copy of all my data in a ReiserFS formated > >partion > >on my hard drive. When I do a Linux Distribution instal

Re: Newbie: The C / C++ Issue

2003-11-11 Thread Matthew Emmerton
> Thanks for all of the great suggestions to my previous question! > > Yet, the responses have led me to another question. If C++ is newer and more advanced than C, will it replace C? If so, should I learn C++ and forget C? You can't learn C++ without learning C first. So I'd suggest you become i

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread paul van den bergen
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:54 am, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > Wow, that's a fairly complete list. Agree completely on the C/C++ > application/philosophical differences. The book list missed one very > useful C++ book by Josutis, "The C++ Standard" I think. Don't have it > handy. I agree with all said so

cdbakeoven 2.0 beta 2 build fails on freebsd 5-current

2003-11-11 Thread Neal Hamilton Jr.
Has anyone had success with cdbakeoven 2.0 beta 2 on freebsd 5 or 5 current? ./configure seems to go ok but gmake fails with the following: AN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -c -o CdboCDRom.lo `test -f 'CdboCDRom.cpp' || echo './'`CdboCDRom.cpp CdboCDRom.cpp:34:56: linux/cdrom.h: No such file or

Re: How to find our what version of ports your running?

2003-11-11 Thread horio shoichi
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:14:23 +0800 "Paul Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Is it possible to print out the base version of when you last installed the > ports base, or cvs'ed it? > > cheers, > > Paul Hamilton > > > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 11/12/03 01:37 PM, paul van den bergen sat at the `puter and typed: > On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:54 am, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > Wow, that's a fairly complete list. Agree completely on the C/C++ > > application/philosophical differences. The book list missed one very > > useful C++ book by Josutis

Re: Newbie: The C / C++ Issue

2003-11-11 Thread Lucas Holt
On Nov 11, 2003, at 9:06 PM, Alex Kelly wrote: Thanks for all of the great suggestions to my previous question! Yet, the responses have led me to another question. If C++ is newer and more advanced than C, will it replace C? If so, should I learn C++ and forget C? Alex

Re: Newbie: The C / C++ Issue

2003-11-11 Thread Lucas Holt
You can't learn C++ without learning C first. So I'd suggest you become intimiately familiar with C, and then move on to the advanced concepts and features that C++ provides once you want/need to use them. -- Matt Emmerton Thats not entirely accurate. Western Michigan University only teaches

Re: Newbie: The C / C++ Issue

2003-11-11 Thread Scott W
Alex Kelly wrote: Thanks for all of the great suggestions to my previous question! Yet, the responses have led me to another question. If C++ is newer and more advanced than C, will it replace C? If so, should I learn C++ and forget C? Alex Again, it depends on WHAT you'd like to program. Th

Re: Newbie: The C / C++ Issue

2003-11-11 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 11/11/03 09:26 PM, Matthew Emmerton sat at the `puter and typed: > > Thanks for all of the great suggestions to my previous question! > > > > Yet, the responses have led me to another question. If C++ is > > newer and more advanced than C, will it replace C? If so, should I > > learn C++ and for

Re: Newbie: The C / C++ Issue

2003-11-11 Thread Robin Schoonover
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:02:53 -0500, Lucas Holt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > You can't learn C++ without learning C first. So I'd suggest you > > become intimiately familiar with C, and then move on to the advanced > > concepts and features that C++ provides once you want/need to use them. >

C / C++

2003-11-11 Thread Alex Kelly
Whoever mentioned the "holy war" may have been on to something. ;-) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: C / C++

2003-11-11 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 11/11/03 10:15 PM, Alex Kelly sat at the `puter and typed: > Whoever mentioned the "holy war" may have been on to something. ;-) Yup. Been there, done that, got scars to prove it :) -- Louis LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www

Re: C / C++

2003-11-11 Thread paul van den bergen
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 02:15 pm, Alex Kelly wrote: > Whoever mentioned the "holy war" may have been on to something. ;-) Except they are all violently agreeing with one another... I'd involke Godwin's Law if it wasn't for Quirk's Exception -- Dr Paul van den Bergen Centre for Advanced Internet Arc

Re: Newbie: The C / C++ Issue

2003-11-11 Thread Alexander Franco
Thanks for all of the great suggestions to my previous question! Yet, the responses have led me to another question. If C++ is newer and Bahh. Just jump straight into C# and you will avoid all those doubts. just kidding ;) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ma

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread abowhill
>>I need to buy a book on C or C++ to help me in FreeBSD. Which would be >> better to buy? >>I first thought a book on C would be best, because the OS is written in >> C. But, now I'm not sure because I read that gcc can compile C++ too >> (so, I'm assuming C++ must get used too). >I can recommen

Re: Newbie: Correct directory for file server

2003-11-11 Thread Tom Munro Glass
> Hi Tom- /usr doesn't _have_ to be mounted read-only, but it's not > uncommon to do it on systems connected to the net/susceptible to > hacking/just for security. Default Sun for home is /export home, > primarily b/c Solaris thinks it's always the NFS server ;-) Most Linux > distros use /home, a

Re: Newbie: Correct directory for file server

2003-11-11 Thread Tom Munro Glass
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:47, Chris Howells wrote: > Hi, > > On Tuesday 11 November 2003 19:38, Tom Munro Glass wrote: > > filesystem for /home, should I mount this at /home and make /usr/home a > > link to /home, or do I just mount it at /usr/home? > > The latter is probably preferable. Thanks Chris

linux_base compile error

2003-11-11 Thread epilogue
hello all, tried installing the redhat 7.1 linux compatibility port (/usr/ports/emulators/linux_base) and run into an error. ran it again with 'make -d A install clean' to get all the debugging information, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of useful info there (at least for me). /sbin/sysctl -

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread alexander v p
if i've got the msg, it seems u're sugesting to go to software uni and finish that instead c/c++ advice @ the end. back to the ?, i would go with C for starters. C++ later. alone, with books, lotsa {coffee|oj|pepsi|...|..} and good luck. coursework can help if you have time/money. $0.0153 alex p

Re: Newbie: Correct directory for file server

2003-11-11 Thread Scott W
Tom Munro Glass wrote: Hi Tom- /usr doesn't _have_ to be mounted read-only, but it's not uncommon to do it on systems connected to the net/susceptible to hacking/just for security. Default Sun for home is /export home, primarily b/c Solaris thinks it's always the NFS server ;-) Most Linux distro

FreeBSD 5.1-P10 and cdparanoia

2003-11-11 Thread Joe Sotham
I've just upped from P2 to P10 and rebuilt kernel and cdparanoia. cdparanoia is not recognizing any audio cd I place in the drive which is recognized by the system (cdrecord --scanbus checks out fine, even writing to the drive is ok) Here's the error message. Is this broken for a bit? I notice

Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread abowhill
A decent school will start you with C as an introduction to programming then teach you basic C++ (you write your own abstract data types). On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 8:17pm alexander v p <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > if i've got the msg, it seems u're sugesting to go to software uni and > finish th

Re: Installation Hang

2003-11-11 Thread Nick P.
>>>1 - (Easy) Disable the CD-ROM in BIOS and try a Floppy -> FTP >>>install. Does it still hang up? >> Yes I tried FTP installs many times. >Did you try disabling the CD-ROM? I'm thinking that maybe the CD >may be causing some >hang ups. Ah, I see, I did not disable the CD-ROM, I did remove it f

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2003-11-11 Thread Nick P.
Jez, >Have you checked the integrity of the installation CD you're >trying to install from? > It could be that it's corrupted and >causing problems. I did check the MD5 checksums -- but in addition to the CD install, I also tried a variety of other install methods - booting to CD and doing FTP

pcm driver kills SMP performance

2003-11-11 Thread matthew tillman
Hello- I have an ACorp Dual P3 motherboard, with a pair of P3 733s. My sound card, is a SoundBlaster Live Value. Whenever sound support is compiled in the Kernel, performance takes a huge hit, X runs about the same as on a P2 300 or so. But If I boot to a kernel that is configured exactly th

Re: cdbakeoven 2.0 beta 2 build fails on freebsd 5-current

2003-11-11 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 06:44:26PM -0800, Neal Hamilton Jr. wrote: > Has anyone had success with cdbakeoven 2.0 beta 2 on freebsd 5 or 5 > current? ./configure seems to go ok but gmake fails with the following: It needs to be ported to FreeBSD. Talk to the authors and the maintainer of the port (

Re: Installation Hang

2003-11-11 Thread Kris Kennaway
Please wrap your lines at 70 characters so they may be easily read. On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 12:07:32AM -0500, Nick P. wrote: > I think that if it is documented that in order to use FreeBSD, you > must have your CD-ROM on a separate IDE cable that your hard drive, > because of __X___ reason, then

Re: installworld hangs...

2003-11-11 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 09:09:28AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > cd /usr/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 hierarchy > cd /usr/src/etc;make distrib-dirs > mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p / > > > That's where it hangs, any help? Which process is running? What sta

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