Re: vmware timekeeping
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 04:23:41PM -0400, Jeff Dickens wrote: option turned on in ESX's .vmx file, and I have hint.apic.0.disabled=1 in my FreeBSD guest's /boot/loader.conf. This shouldn't be necessary in FreeBSD = 6.2. I used to have kern.hz=100 in loader.conf, but that caused the guest to gain time even faster. 100 is ok, I'm using this value on all virtual machines. Does anyone have a good recipe for decent timekeeping in this config? Is it possible to upgrade your ESX from 3.0.2 to 3.5x? If not, there is another setting on the ESX side that helps with timing problems (FreeBSD or Linux guests): change Advanced Settings/Misc/Misc.Timer/MinHardPeriod from 400 to 100 (this is default on ESX 3.5x). Uwe ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vmware timekeeping
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Jeff Dickens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running FreeBSD 6.3-release as a guest on VMware ESX 3.0.2. My problem is that the clock keeps *gaining* time. I have the timesync option turned on in ESX's .vmx file, and I have hint.apic.0.disabled=1 in my FreeBSD guest's /boot/loader.conf. I used to have kern.hz=100 in loader.conf, but that caused the guest to gain time even faster. Does anyone have a good recipe for decent timekeeping in this config? I run FreeBSD 7.0 inside VMware Workstation-6.0.4 (ACE Edition) and I don't have to setup anything. The time is the always same as the host OS. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards! --from a /. post ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Promise SATA300 TX2plus with LG GGW-H20L burner on 7.0 causes endless timeouts.
This is a collection of information to my troubles. I am hoping to find out what mailing list is most appropriate before I started posting kernel dump backtraces and asking what other details to post. What other details may be relevant to gather would also be helpful. Are there safe ways to crash a system to gather details without further filesystem corruption? My motherboard is about six years old so it has no SATA ports for the drive; My old Promise SATA150 TX4 was loaded with four hard drives; it appears to not support optical drives so I recently purchased the Promise SATA300 TX2plus to have a card giving what I need on this old computer and hopefully an IDE port on my next computer (if the board I buy in a year comes with a PCI slot for it). I thought Promise cards receive good FreeBSD support and was readily available at a local retailer. Upon booting, I get the following 2 errors after a long pause: acd0: timeout waiting to issue command acd0: error issuing ATA PACKET command These errors are looped. The pause occurs just after acd0 and acd1 are identified. After a little over a page of errers there are cd2 entries for the SATA drive that appear. I was able to `atacontrol detach ata6` yesterday to put a hault to that traffic. The system periodically pauses while the errors are being generated. Inside X, pauses appeared to come every 8 seconds or so and last a second or two. I booted this morning to restore services while I was at work and accidentally detached ata5 (with a mounted but not in use partition) and started X (which loads the nvidia driver and takes the videocard fan down to an idle state). When I got home, the system was sluggish with the pauses (seemed to not give the full 8 seconds between I/O freezes). Attempting to detach ata6 never returned to a prompt, but the error loop appeared to have stopped. Trying to open programs or login to other virtual terminals just lead to freezing in the related program or terminal. ctrl + alt + delete left me with the gui on F9 and only F1 as a text terminal, but both were crippled beyond use before than with the freezing. Pressing power did not begin the usual shutdown sequence; ACPI(?) errors followed for each press with a message something along the lines of not being ready yet. After many minutes of no action, I forced a powerdown. Reboots lead to segfaults after I logged in and tried to detach ata6 (which appeared to succeed). I should have a crash dump, but do not recall the error; it lead me to conclude that file system corruption may be present. I had to reboot in single user mode to detach ata6 and run fsck which found errors (as usual of almost every time I have had improper shutdowns on FreeBSD machines). Booting normal after than and detaching ata6 was followed with another segfault so I have unplugged the drive in the meantime. The old and new controller cards are listed as the following on bootup: atapci0: port 0x9000-0x903f,0x9400-0x940f,0x9800-0x987f mem 0xe804-0xe8040fff,0xe800-0xe801 irq 22 at device 10.0 on pci2 atapci1: port 0x9c00-0x9c7f,0xa000-0xa0ff mem 0xe8041000-0xe8041fff,0xe802-0xe803 irq 19 at device 11.0 on pci2 Any suggestions where to go from here to get the system working? Thanks again, Edward Sutton, III _ It’s easy to add contacts from Facebook and other social sites through Windows Live™ Messenger. Learn how. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnHow___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Input method doesn't work with QT applications. Anyone able to type Chinese into QT apps?
Hi Yuri, First of all, You do not specify what shell you are using. TCSH or BASH? Second, waht DE you using too? for TCSH, it should be this in your ~/.xinitrc setenv XMODIFIERS='@im=gcin' setenv GTK_IM_MODULE=gcin setenv QT_IM_MODULE=gcin I guess you are using TCSH not BASH. gcin can let you type chinese in GTK apps without set GTK_IM_MODULE You can check the SHELL VARIABLE that is set or not after logged-in X. Regards, jyuny1 2008/6/7 Yuri [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When I am trying to type Chinese characters I can only do this from GTK applications. Input method doesn't work QT applications for me. I have the following in my .xinitrc: export XMODIFIERS='@im=gcin' export GTK_IM_MODULE=gcin export QT_IM_MODULE=gcin I have zh-gcin-1.4.0_1 installed and start it with 'gcin '. In GTK apps Alt-Space creates the prompt windows. And in any QT apps -- no such box is popping up. Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD 7 sched_ule
what changed exactly. my observations shows that it make a good job NOT switching task too often, so many concurrent processes goes faster (less cache reloads), but for interactive X11 speed it's bad, it's difficult to point with mouse as it jumps rtprio 31 X org process fixes that. but is there other fix? with rtprio in case of Xorg getting in loop i wouldn't be able to do anything ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: change the file date and time
On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:25:41 +0300 Georgi Tyuliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. How to mount Sony Ericsson k750i mobile phone with FreeBSD 7.0 ? No idea. 2. How to change automatically the file attributes (for example 'date') of large number of files? For modification and/or access times, use touch(1) For user:group ownership, use chown(1) For file modes, use chmod(1) For example: I have taken many photos with my Sony Ericsson k750i mobile phone and the exact time end date is accessible (e.g. through F3 of the midnight commander), but very often when copying the jpg's the file attributes change. To preserve user/group ownership and modification/access timestamps on files, use cp(1) with the -p flag. Maybe mc doesn't do that correctly on copying, though it should for a move, assuming that it uses mv(1) cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 7 sched_ule
Wojciech Puchar wrote: what changed exactly. my observations shows that it make a good job NOT switching task too often, so many concurrent processes goes faster (less cache reloads), but for interactive X11 speed it's bad, it's difficult to point with mouse as it jumps rtprio 31 X org process fixes that. but is there other fix? with rtprio in case of Xorg getting in loop i wouldn't be able to do anything Make sure you're not running the 7.0-R X packages, there was a serious performance bug in the X server that was fixed later. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 7 sched_ule
with rtprio in case of Xorg getting in loop i wouldn't be able to do anything Make sure you're not running the 7.0-R X packages, there was a serious performance bug in the X server that was fixed later. Kris i'm running 6.3 Xorg package - packages are old still after upgrade. the same 6.3 Xorg package was smooth on 6.3 now it is too but with this rtprio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 7 sched_ule
Wojciech Puchar wrote: with rtprio in case of Xorg getting in loop i wouldn't be able to do anything Make sure you're not running the 7.0-R X packages, there was a serious performance bug in the X server that was fixed later. Kris i'm running 6.3 Xorg package - packages are old still after upgrade. the same 6.3 Xorg package was smooth on 6.3 Too many variables, update to the 7.0-stable packages to rule it out. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Input method doesn't work with QT applications. Anyone able to type Chinese into QT apps?
Hi Jyun-Yi, I am using bash. And XMODIFIERS, GTK_IM_MODULE and QT_IM_MODULE variables are all set to the values you wrote. But in QT applications the prompt window doesn't pop up as in GTK ones. I am not setting any of LANG/LC_ALL/LC_CTYPE to Chinese. This may be related to the problem. When I set all of those to zh_TW.UTF-8 gcin begins to pop up the prompt window from QT applications just like from GTK. But after selection the word doesn't appear 9in the editbox. But I don't want to use Chinese locale since this makes all applications speak Chinese. And I only want to be able to type Chinese words. Do you know how to achieve this? Yuri Jyun-Yi Liou wrote: Hi Yuri, First of all, You do not specify what shell you are using. TCSH or BASH? Second, waht DE you using too? for TCSH, it should be this in your ~/.xinitrc setenv XMODIFIERS='@im=gcin' setenv GTK_IM_MODULE=gcin setenv QT_IM_MODULE=gcin I guess you are using TCSH not BASH. gcin can let you type chinese in GTK apps without set GTK_IM_MODULE You can check the SHELL VARIABLE that is set or not after logged-in X. Regards, jyuny1 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 7 sched_ule
i'm running 6.3 Xorg package - packages are old still after upgrade. the same 6.3 Xorg package was smooth on 6.3 Too many variables, update to the 7.0-stable packages to rule it out. well - it's rather little variable. SAME X server, just base system changed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Input method doesn't work with QT applications. Anyone able to type Chinese into QT apps?
Hi Yuri, try this below, export LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8 export LC_CTYPE=zh_TW.UTF-8 export LC_MESSAGES en_US.ISO8859-1 export LC_TIME en_US.ISO8859-1 this may let your gcin working and keep your system speak in english further more, you may want to read this doc http://chinsan2.twbbs.org/zh-tut/ Regards, jyuny1 2008/6/7 Yuri [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Jyun-Yi, I am using bash. And XMODIFIERS, GTK_IM_MODULE and QT_IM_MODULE variables are all set to the values you wrote. But in QT applications the prompt window doesn't pop up as in GTK ones. I am not setting any of LANG/LC_ALL/LC_CTYPE to Chinese. This may be related to the problem. When I set all of those to zh_TW.UTF-8 gcin begins to pop up the prompt window from QT applications just like from GTK. But after selection the word doesn't appear 9in the editbox. But I don't want to use Chinese locale since this makes all applications speak Chinese. And I only want to be able to type Chinese words. Do you know how to achieve this? Yuri Jyun-Yi Liou wrote: Hi Yuri, First of all, You do not specify what shell you are using. TCSH or BASH? Second, waht DE you using too? for TCSH, it should be this in your ~/.xinitrc setenv XMODIFIERS='@im=gcin' setenv GTK_IM_MODULE=gcin setenv QT_IM_MODULE=gcin I guess you are using TCSH not BASH. gcin can let you type chinese in GTK apps without set GTK_IM_MODULE You can check the SHELL VARIABLE that is set or not after logged-in X. Regards, jyuny1 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Input method doesn't work with QT applications. Anyone able to type Chinese into QT apps?
Hi Jyun-Yi, With these environment variables prompt window pops up from QT apps but editboxes don't get selected word. Also all GTK applications begin to speak Chinese. Yuri Jyun-Yi Liou wrote: Hi Yuri, try this below, export LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8 export LC_CTYPE=zh_TW.UTF-8 export LC_MESSAGES en_US.ISO8859-1 export LC_TIME en_US.ISO8859-1 this may let your gcin working and keep your system speak in english further more, you may want to read this doc http://chinsan2.twbbs.org/zh-tut/ Regards, jyuny1 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 7 sched_ule
Wojciech Puchar wrote: i'm running 6.3 Xorg package - packages are old still after upgrade. the same 6.3 Xorg package was smooth on 6.3 Too many variables, update to the 7.0-stable packages to rule it out. well - it's rather little variable. SAME X server, just base system changed. No, the X server compiles many things differently depending on the OS version. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dump and remote file fetching
What I do : Allow ssh access only using key PubkeyAuthentication yes Allow root access Create a root ssh Pubkey Automate the access using any script based on ssh… If you want to be more restrictive, you can deploy a firewall localy on your server and limit ssh access to one or more selected IPs. Bye // Le 28 mai 08 à 07:53, Zbigniew Szalbot a écrit : Hi there, Need a word of advice. I use dump to backup my data. All fine. Dump saves compressed *.bz2 files. Nice. All I need now is a way to copy them from the server to a remote backup machine. The problem I am facing is that bz2 files are owned by root:wheel. So if I use scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/path/to/*.bz2, it does not have sufficient permissions to fetch the files. I can use sudo, but then I need to interactively type the password, which I would like to avoid. Can you suggest simple ways of getting around this? I don't mind using special tools for the job, especially if they are not too complicated... :) Before firing this email off I took a look at rsync and it seems easy enough to do just what I need but still many thanks for suggestions! I have been very happy with rsnapshot. Take that for a spin and see how it works for you I have taken a look at rsnapshot but it seems I am left to deal with the same problem: From their page: In addition to full paths on the local filesystem, you can also backup remote systems using rsync over ssh. If you have ssh installed and enabled (via the cmd_ssh parameter), you can specify a path like: backup [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/ example.com/ This behaves fundamentally the same way, but you must take a few extra things into account. a/ The ssh daemon must be running on example.com b/ You must have access to the account you specify the remote machine, in this case the root user on example.com. I do not allow remote root login so what are my options in that case? How do you deal with such a scenario? Many thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.lc-words.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gregober --- PGP ID -- 0x1BA3C2FD bsd @at@ todoo.biz P Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vmware timekeeping
I run FreeBSD 7.0 inside VMware Workstation-6.0.4 (ACE Edition) and I don't have to setup anything. The time is the always same as the host How long do you keep it up though Odhiambo and how intensive are you using your native OS? I have a similar setup and while it sync's on boot, I routinely lose 15 minutes a day (I keep it up 24x7). I think it is not so much a bug in VMware as opposed to the host OS running slower than it thinks (e.g. maybe a second of OS time is really 1.01 seconds of real time adding up over long periods) if the native OS is under moderate to heavy use. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wireless help
I am completely new to linux and need help with wireless connectivity. I have installed freebsd 6.3-RELEASE I have a toshiba satellite 1005-s157 with a dlink gs630 pcmcia card and a linksys wr54g wireless router. ifconfig shows status: associated but I cannot ping anything other than the static IP address that I gave to the wireless card. The card is known working, the AP is known working. I do not have DHCP running on the AP and simply assign IP's to all of my boxes when I first bring them online. topology: wall--bellsouth router--linksys AP linksys has a static IP of 192.168.1.3 bellsouth router has a static IP of 192.168.1.254 I have added a default route by running the following. route add default 192.168.1.254 I also ran this ifconfig ath0 ssid MYAPNAMEHERE wepmode on weptxkey MYPASSPHRASE ifconfig ath0 list scan shows the AP that I am trying to connect through and shows CAPS of EP only. The Question is: How am I associated with the AP but cannot ping anything other than localhost, 127.0.0.1 and the static IP address that I gave the card? All pings except to localhost or 127 or my static ip result in a host down message contents of /etc/resolv.conf search . nameserver 205.xxx.xxx.xxx nameserver 205.xxx.xxx.xxx nameserver 205.xxx.xxx.xxx -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/wireless-help-tp17709547p17709547.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wireless help
topology: wall--bellsouth router--linksys AP linksys has a static IP of 192.168.1.3 bellsouth router has a static IP of 192.168.1.254 You need to configure different prefixes (aka subnets) on each side of the Linksys router: LAN side on Bellsouth: 192.168.1.254 255.255.255.0 WAN side on Linksys:192.168.1.3 255.255.255.0 LAN (wifi) side of Linksys: 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0 Laptop: 192.168.2.2 255.255.255.0 Laptop gateway: 192.168.2.1 A trick I recommend very frequently to our ADSL subs that want to implement a wireless router into their network who are already using our equipment that has NAT enabled (to avoid double-NAT), is to disable DHCP on the LAN side of the Linksys, disable the WAN interface, and connect the ADSL modem to one of the LAN ports on the Linksys. Essentially, your access point will then be just that. Hope I understood your problem properly. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wireless help
Why would I change something that is known to function correctly? Steve Bertrand-2 wrote: topology: wall--bellsouth router--linksys AP linksys has a static IP of 192.168.1.3 bellsouth router has a static IP of 192.168.1.254 You need to configure different prefixes (aka subnets) on each side of the Linksys router: LAN side on Bellsouth:192.168.1.254 255.255.255.0 WAN side on Linksys: 192.168.1.3 255.255.255.0 LAN (wifi) side of Linksys: 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0 Laptop: 192.168.2.2 255.255.255.0 Laptop gateway: 192.168.2.1 A trick I recommend very frequently to our ADSL subs that want to implement a wireless router into their network who are already using our equipment that has NAT enabled (to avoid double-NAT), is to disable DHCP on the LAN side of the Linksys, disable the WAN interface, and connect the ADSL modem to one of the LAN ports on the Linksys. Essentially, your access point will then be just that. Hope I understood your problem properly. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/wireless-help-tp17709547p17709899.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wireless help
erpa1119 wrote: Why would I change something that is known to function correctly? Pardon my ignorance... It was my understanding that the reason you posted to the list was to get help with an issue where you could not communicate with other network devices. Are you saying it does work? Are you saying that perhaps you have other hosts on your network use this same setup successfully? Are you saying that your Linksys router is not at all a gateway device (does not NAT and forward packets)? # ifconfig -a # netstat -rn # ping ip.of.linksys # ping ip.of.bellsouth # arp -a ...post them. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: stunnel not running? (check /var/run/stunnel/stunnel.pid)
Noah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay I am not understanding something with stunnel. it appears that stunnel cant start because it cant create a pid file. It happens every time I upgrade it. # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/stunnel restart stunnel not running? (check /var/run/stunnel/stunnel.pid). Starting stunnel. # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/stunnel restart stunnel not running? (check /var/run/stunnel/stunnel.pid). Starting stunnel. # Anybody help me understand things here. so here is the relevent output which I can provide some clues. I notice below that you have modified the rc script, but even after mimicking your changes, I cannot reproduce your problem -- stunnel starts (and creates a pid) just fine. What is logged to /var/log/messages by stunnel? [...] -- Sahil Tandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wireless help
Are you saying it does work? Are you saying that perhaps you have other hosts on your network use this same setup successfully? Correct. I have 4 other laptops on this AP that all have internet connectivity (2 winxp and 2 win2k pro). All configured with the gateway as 192.168.1.254 (the BS router) Any ping except to 192.168.1.12 (manually assigned) and 127.0.0.1 and localhost result in either host is down or a name resolve issue, ie cannot resolve host. Additionally EricBSD (manually assigned name to box) returns with a cannot resolve host as well. I will post the result of the below shortly. # ifconfig -a # netstat -rn # ping ip.of.linksys # ping ip.of.bellsouth # arp -a Steve Bertrand-2 wrote: erpa1119 wrote: Why would I change something that is known to function correctly? Pardon my ignorance... It was my understanding that the reason you posted to the list was to get help with an issue where you could not communicate with other network devices. Are you saying it does work? Are you saying that perhaps you have other hosts on your network use this same setup successfully? Are you saying that your Linksys router is not at all a gateway device (does not NAT and forward packets)? # ifconfig -a # netstat -rn # ping ip.of.linksys # ping ip.of.bellsouth # arp -a ...post them. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/wireless-help-tp17709547p17710294.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 7 sched_ule
OK i will try and report On Sat, 7 Jun 2008, Kris Kennaway wrote: Wojciech Puchar wrote: i'm running 6.3 Xorg package - packages are old still after upgrade. the same 6.3 Xorg package was smooth on 6.3 Too many variables, update to the 7.0-stable packages to rule it out. well - it's rather little variable. SAME X server, just base system changed. No, the X server compiles many things differently depending on the OS version. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wireless help
I am completely new to linux and need help with wireless connectivity. I have installed freebsd 6.3-RELEASE you should install linux not freebsd to learn linux ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wireless help
had to figure out how to mount the usb stick ifconfig plip0: flags=108810POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,NEEDSGIANT mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 ath0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet 192.168.1.12 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:13:46:21:83:0c media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (OFDM/36Mbps) status: associated ssid GCH_Wireless channel 10 bssid 00:18:39:7c:ea:88 authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey UNDEF wepkey 1:104-bit txpowmax 38 bmiss 7 protmode CTS burst bintval 100 arp ? (192.168.1.3) at (incomplete) on ath0 [ethernet] ? (192.168.1.254) at (incomplete) on ath0 [ethernet] ping linksys PING 192.168.1.254 (192.168.1.254): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: Host is down ping: sendto: Host is down ping: sendto: Host is down ping: sendto: Host is down ping: sendto: Host is down --- 192.168.1.254 ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss PING 192.168.1.3 (192.168.1.3): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: Host is down ping: sendto: Host is down ping: sendto: Host is down ping: sendto: Host is down ping: sendto: Host is down --- 192.168.1.3 ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss netstat Routing tables Internet: DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs Use Netif Expire default192.168.1.254 UGS 00 ath0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 00lo0 192.168.1 link#3 UC 00 ath0 192.168.1.254 link#3 UHLW20 ath0 Internet6: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire ::1 ::1 UHL lo0 fe80::%lo0/64 fe80::1%lo0 U lo0 fe80::1%lo0 link#2UHL lo0 ff01:2::/32 fe80::1%lo0 UC lo0 ff02::%lo0/32 fe80::1%lo0 UC lo0 Thanks for the help erpa1119 wrote: Are you saying it does work? Are you saying that perhaps you have other hosts on your network use this same setup successfully? Correct. I have 4 other laptops on this AP that all have internet connectivity (2 winxp and 2 win2k pro). All configured with the gateway as 192.168.1.254 (the BS router) Any ping except to 192.168.1.12 (manually assigned) and 127.0.0.1 and localhost result in either host is down or a name resolve issue, ie cannot resolve host. Additionally EricBSD (manually assigned name to box) returns with a cannot resolve host as well. I will post the result of the below shortly. # ifconfig -a # netstat -rn # ping ip.of.linksys # ping ip.of.bellsouth # arp -a Steve Bertrand-2 wrote: erpa1119 wrote: Why would I change something that is known to function correctly? Pardon my ignorance... It was my understanding that the reason you posted to the list was to get help with an issue where you could not communicate with other network devices. Are you saying it does work? Are you saying that perhaps you have other hosts on your network use this same setup successfully? Are you saying that your Linksys router is not at all a gateway device (does not NAT and forward packets)? # ifconfig -a # netstat -rn # ping ip.of.linksys # ping ip.of.bellsouth # arp -a ...post them. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/wireless-help-tp17709547p17710677.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vmware timekeeping
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Peter Thoenen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I run FreeBSD 7.0 inside VMware Workstation-6.0.4 (ACE Edition) and I don't have to setup anything. The time is the always same as the host How long do you keep it up though Odhiambo and how intensive are you using your native OS? I have a similar setup and while it sync's on boot, I routinely lose 15 minutes a day (I keep it up 24x7). I think it is not so much a bug in VMware as opposed to the host OS running slower than it thinks (e.g. maybe a second of OS time is really 1.01 seconds of real time adding up over long periods) if the native OS is under moderate to heavy use. I keep mine running non-stop (as long as the host OS is running)). I never shut down my workstation at all, unless stupid Windows install some updates and reboots itself. And besides FreeBSD, there are other guest OSes installed, but these others are run once in a while, and would be on for 2 days or so. I've never realized any time loss. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards! --from a /. post ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Denyhost
Andrea Venturoli wrote: Anyone using this? I've used it for a long time on a 6.x box and it worked fine. Recently I had to deactivate it since it seems to lock away every IP which is listed in the logs. Running on all my Servers like a charm... no Problems known... RELENG_7 i386 and amd64 (fedora too...) Beat ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: stunnel not running? (check /var/run/stunnel/stunnel.pid)
logs included below Sahil Tandon wrote: Noah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay I am not understanding something with stunnel. it appears that stunnel cant start because it cant create a pid file. It happens every time I upgrade it. # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/stunnel restart stunnel not running? (check /var/run/stunnel/stunnel.pid). Starting stunnel. # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/stunnel restart stunnel not running? (check /var/run/stunnel/stunnel.pid). Starting stunnel. # Anybody help me understand things here. so here is the relevent output which I can provide some clues. I notice below that you have modified the rc script, but even after mimicking your changes, I cannot reproduce your problem -- stunnel starts (and creates a pid) just fine. What is logged to /var/log/messages by stunnel? 2008.06.07 10:37:55 LOG7[27645:134664192]: Snagged 64 random bytes from /root/.rnd 2008.06.07 10:37:55 LOG7[27645:134664192]: Wrote 1024 new random bytes to /root/.rnd 2008.06.07 10:37:55 LOG7[27645:134664192]: RAND_status claims sufficient entropy for the PRNG 2008.06.07 10:37:55 LOG7[27645:134664192]: PRNG seeded successfully 2008.06.07 10:37:55 LOG7[27645:134664192]: Certificate: /usr/local/etc/stunnel/mail.pem 2008.06.07 10:37:55 LOG7[27645:134664192]: Certificate loaded 2008.06.07 10:37:55 LOG7[27645:134664192]: Key file: /usr/local/etc/stunnel/mail.pem 2008.06.07 10:37:55 LOG7[27645:134664192]: Private key loaded 2008.06.07 10:37:55 LOG7[27645:134664192]: SSL context initialized for service pop3s 2008.06.07 10:37:55 LOG5[27645:134664192]: stunnel 4.25 on i386-unknown-freebsd6.2 with OpenSSL 0.9.8h 28 May 2008 2008.06.07 10:37:55 LOG5[27645:134664192]: Threading:PTHREAD SSL:ENGINE Sockets:POLL,IPv6 Auth:LIBWRAP 2008.06.07 10:37:55 LOG6[27645:134664192]: file ulimit = 11095 (can be changed with 'ulimit -n') 2008.06.07 10:37:55 LOG6[27645:134664192]: poll() used - no FD_SETSIZE limit for file descriptors 2008.06.07 10:37:55 LOG5[27645:134664192]: 5417 clients allowed 2008.06.07 10:37:55 LOG7[27645:134664192]: FD 5 in non-blocking mode 2008.06.07 10:37:55 LOG7[27645:134664192]: FD 6 in non-blocking mode 2008.06.07 10:37:55 LOG7[27645:134664192]: FD 7 in non-blocking mode 2008.06.07 10:37:55 LOG7[27645:134664192]: SO_REUSEADDR option set on accept socket 2008.06.07 10:37:55 LOG7[27645:134664192]: pop3s bound to 0.0.0.0:995 2008.06.07 10:37:55 LOG3[27646:134664192]: Cannot create pid file /tmp/stunnel.pid 2008.06.07 10:37:55 LOG3[27646:134664192]: create: No such file or directory (2) [...] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vmware timekeeping
On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:30:27 -0400 Peter Thoenen [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: I run FreeBSD 7.0 inside VMware Workstation-6.0.4 (ACE Edition) and I don't have to setup anything. The time is the always same as the host How long do you keep it up though Odhiambo and how intensive are you using your native OS? I have a similar setup and while it sync's on boot, I routinely lose 15 minutes a day (I keep it up 24x7). I think it is not so much a bug in VMware as opposed to the host OS running slower than it thinks (e.g. maybe a second of OS time is really 1.01 seconds of real time adding up over long periods) if the native OS is under moderate to heavy use. I'm running FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE within Vmware v6.0.4 build 93057 with the host OS being XP-Home-SP2. I also have two jails running within the FreeBSD VM. I have within /boot/loader.conf: kern.hz=50 And within root's crontab: PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin @reboot ntpdate us.pool.ntp.org I do not have the Vmware tools loaded. Nor do I have ntpd running. Time has not been a big issue. The host OS (XP) is used more than average for the irreplaceable Windoe$ software I have yet to find replacements for native to FreeBSD. I just decided to do an ntpdate and here are the results: plz# ntpdate -b us.pool.ntp.org 7 Jun 17:04:06 ntpdate[57748]: step time server 208.53.158.34 offset 2.433443 sec plz# uptime 4:59PM up 6 days, 18:47, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- If at first you don't succeed, so much for skydiving! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: stunnel not running? (check /var/run/stunnel/stunnel.pid)
Noah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008.06.07 10:37:55 LOG3[27646:134664192]: Cannot create pid file /tmp/stunnel.pid It should not be trying to create a pid file in /tmp. There is a configuration file being read that is directly stunnel to that location. -- Sahil Tandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: massive ports update
Tuc at T-B-O-H wrote: I'm wondering just how many ports the author of that statement has. I have a few to say the least. Actually a few hundred. Ok, well, 1102 to be a bit more specific Blow away and re-install 1102 ports? I think he meant the ports tree, not necessarily the installed ports. I use portsnap (normally much quicker than the various CVS methods) and if I've let it go a few months, it's quicker to blow the whole thing away and reload from scratch: rm -r /var/db/portsnap rm -r /usr/ports portsnap fetch extract -R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Flashplugin
Hey all, I have tried using swfdec-plugin to do flash, but it doesnt seem to work too well at least with firefox. One ... I prefer being able to select what flash loads automaticly and Two ... I like to be able to see the flash video but all it does is freeze I can't seem to get linux-flashplugin7 anymore due to the restricted status. Flashplugin9 locks up also, which we all know already. I have heard gnash doesnt do much better... Anyone have a solution that works halfway? Derek ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flashplugin
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Derek Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I have tried using swfdec-plugin to do flash, but it doesnt seem to work too well at least with firefox. One ... I prefer being able to select what flash loads automaticly and Two ... I like to be able to see the flash video but all it does is freeze I can't seem to get linux-flashplugin7 anymore due to the restricted status. Flashplugin9 locks up also, which we all know already. I have heard gnash doesnt do much better... Anyone have a solution that works halfway? Derek use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows Flash 9 plugin Sam Fourman Jr. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flashplugin
on Saturday 07 June 2008Saturday 07 June 2008 Sam Fourman Jr. Sam Fourman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Derek Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I have tried using swfdec-plugin to do flash, but it doesnt seem to work too well at least with firefox. One ... I prefer being able to select what flash loads automaticly and Two ... I like to be able to see the flash video but all it does is freeze I can't seem to get linux-flashplugin7 anymore due to the restricted status. Flashplugin9 locks up also, which we all know already. I have heard gnash doesnt do much better... Anyone have a solution that works halfway? Derek use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows Flash 9 plugin Sam Fourman Jr. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] yeah i got that installed but its a pain to run wine ver of firefox for flash stuff and native firefox for normal usage. Do you recommend using wine firefox for normal use? Sincerely, Derek A. Graham President D and M Computers, Inc. Exceeding your expectations everyday! http://www.dandmcomputers.co.cc/ (847) 305-1954 ext 101 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flashplugin
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Derek Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on Saturday 07 June 2008Saturday 07 June 2008 Sam Fourman Jr. Sam Fourman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Derek Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I have tried using swfdec-plugin to do flash, but it doesnt seem to work too well at least with firefox. One ... I prefer being able to select what flash loads automaticly and Two ... I like to be able to see the flash video but all it does is freeze I can't seem to get linux-flashplugin7 anymore due to the restricted status. Flashplugin9 locks up also, which we all know already. I have heard gnash doesnt do much better... Anyone have a solution that works halfway? Derek use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows Flash 9 plugin Sam Fourman Jr. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] yeah i got that installed but its a pain to run wine ver of firefox for flash stuff and native firefox for normal usage. Do you recommend using wine firefox for normal use? I don't know, not really I have never been able to get the fonts to look right in wine firefox Sam Fourman Jr. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NFE setting manually to 1000baseT and half duplex
Hi List, I am using the nfe driver on Freebsd 7.0R and I am unable to change the NIC driver manually to 1000baseT with half-duplex. I believe I am not getting the max out of my network connection and want to see if changing the duplex will help. hulk# ifconfig nfe0 10.202.77.110 media 100baseTX hulk# ifconfig nfe0 nfe0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8VLAN_MTU ether 00:18:f3:9f:f1:b4 inet6 fe80::218:f3ff:fe9f:f1b4%nfe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet 10.202.77.113 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.202.77.255 inet 10.202.77.114 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.202.77.255 inet 10.202.77.76 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.202.77.255 inet 192.168.0.10 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 inet 192.168.1.10 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 inet 10.202.77.110 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.255.255.255 media: Ethernet 100baseTX (1000baseTX full-duplex) status: active Why between () the 1000baseTX? Is that the actual speed? The maximum speed? hulk# ifconfig nfe0 10.202.77.110 media 1000baseT ifconfig: SIOCSIFMEDIA (media): Device not configured man nfe says this is possible. hulk# ifconfig nfe0 10.202.77.110 media autoselect hulk# ifconfig nfe0 nfe0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8VLAN_MTU ether 00:18:f3:9f:f1:b4 inet6 fe80::218:f3ff:fe9f:f1b4%nfe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet 10.202.77.114 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.202.77.255 inet 10.202.77.76 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.202.77.255 inet 192.168.0.10 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 inet 192.168.1.10 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 inet 10.202.77.110 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.255.255.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX full-duplex) status: active hulk# ifconfig nfe0 mediaopt half-duplex No errors but cant see if it works. Question is, why cant I just do the following; hulk# ifconfig nfe0 media 1000baseT mediaopt half-duplex pciconf -lv [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:7:0:class=0x068000 card=0x82341043 chip=0x03ef10de rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' device = 'MCP61 Ethernet' class = bridge hulk# uname -a FreeBSD hulk.superhero.nl 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #1: Sun Feb 24 14:37:26 CET 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 hulk# Thanks and regards, Patrick ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flashplugin
on Saturday 07 June 2008Saturday 07 June 2008 Sam Fourman Jr. Sam Fourman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Derek Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on Saturday 07 June 2008Saturday 07 June 2008 Sam Fourman Jr. Sam Fourman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Derek Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I have tried using swfdec-plugin to do flash, but it doesnt seem to work too well at least with firefox. One ... I prefer being able to select what flash loads automaticly and Two ... I like to be able to see the flash video but all it does is freeze I can't seem to get linux-flashplugin7 anymore due to the restricted status. Flashplugin9 locks up also, which we all know already. I have heard gnash doesnt do much better... Anyone have a solution that works halfway? Derek use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows Flash 9 plugin Sam Fourman Jr. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] yeah i got that installed but its a pain to run wine ver of firefox for flash stuff and native firefox for normal usage. Do you recommend using wine firefox for normal use? I don't know, not really I have never been able to get the fonts to look right in wine firefox Sam Fourman Jr. I was just going to ask you about that, it all looks like crud with the fonts not right, anyone know how to setup the fonts for wine? Sincerely, Derek A. Graham President D and M Computers, Inc. Exceeding your expectations everyday! http://www.dandmcomputers.co.cc/ (847) 305-1954 ext 101 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Flashplugin
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:33:26 -0500 Sam Fourman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows Flash 9 plugin People choosing FreeBSD shouldn't be forced to run windowish solution. The OS is not supported. That's a major problem in these modern times, although lots of fbsd people tend to say it is not. That's not everyday's live however. FreeBSD does not make the web. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: massive ports update
On 2008-06-06, Tuc at T-B-O-H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In UPDATING it says : Given the scope and sheer number of dependent ports, it may be more advisable to simply blow away all existing install ports (after keeping any local configuration changes), and rebuilding from scratch. I'm wondering just how many ports the author of that statement has. I have a few to say the least. Actually a few hundred. Ok, well, 1102 to be a bit more specific Blow away and re-install 1102 ports? For real? That's not uncommon. For example when you go from one major FreeBSD version to another you have to rebuild everything most of the time because of ABI changes. Of course you could also wait for the building cluster to catch up and do a binary upgrade (-P in portupgrade). Jona -- Pond-erosa Puff wouldn't take no guff Water oughta be clean and free So he fought the fight and he set things right With his OpenBSD ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flashplugin
People choosing FreeBSD shouldn't be forced to run windowish solution. The OS is not supported. That's a major problem in these modern times, although lots of fbsd people tend to say it is not. That's not everyday's live however. FreeBSD does not make the web. I agree, I made a comment, last week when I noticed I could not even Pay my credit card bill at a major US bank,on FreeBSD because of the lack of flash9. To me I find it kind of a oxy moron to have to load a Windows Application in wine, in order to complete a secure financial transaction. I wish there was a way for the FreeBSD community to let Adobe know that we are out here. I know there are online petitions and I have signed them. I know the topic of flash 9 gets brought up every week on this list, or so it seems. but does anyone know if someone is working on getting Flash9 to work in FreeBSD? if there is someone working on it, maybe there should be a wiki page since Flash9 is such a popular port. I can say that I have saw a report from someone last week saying that the new linux 2.6x emulation in 8 -current still does not make the flash9 port work in a stable manner. Sam Fourman Jr. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flashplugin
On 2008-06-07, Dick Hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:33:26 -0500 Sam Fourman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows Flash 9 plugin People choosing FreeBSD shouldn't be forced to run windowish solution. The OS is not supported. That's a major problem in these modern times, although lots of fbsd people tend to say it is not. That's not everyday's live however. FreeBSD does not make the web. Flash is a big pain IMO. The Flash question has been asked *a lot* of times on this list. The answer usually boils down to use www/nspluginwrapper or use linux-firefox. Both solutions are far from optimal. My solution is to simply ignore Flash content. It makes your online experience much more enjoyable. This is my personal choice of course. I think it is rather reducing when you have to beg unkind vendors to eventually consider that you exist. I don't think proprietary binary formats have their place on the web. The WWW is an information exchange platform, why would you want to diffuse information around the globe when you know that a lot of people will not be able to decipher it? It's a bit arrogant I think. Jona -- Pond-erosa Puff wouldn't take no guff Water oughta be clean and free So he fought the fight and he set things right With his OpenBSD ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NFE setting manually to 1000baseT and half duplex
Hi, You should be doing # ifconfig nfe0 10.202.77.110 media 1000baseTX--- note the 'X' Gelsema, P (Patrick) - FreeBSD wrote: Hi List, I am using the nfe driver on Freebsd 7.0R and I am unable to change the NIC driver manually to 1000baseT with half-duplex. I believe I am not getting the max out of my network connection and want to see if changing the duplex will help. hulk# ifconfig nfe0 10.202.77.110 media 100baseTX hulk# ifconfig nfe0 nfe0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8VLAN_MTU ether 00:18:f3:9f:f1:b4 inet6 fe80::218:f3ff:fe9f:f1b4%nfe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet 10.202.77.113 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.202.77.255 inet 10.202.77.114 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.202.77.255 inet 10.202.77.76 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.202.77.255 inet 192.168.0.10 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 inet 192.168.1.10 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 inet 10.202.77.110 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.255.255.255 media: Ethernet 100baseTX (1000baseTX full-duplex) status: active Why between () the 1000baseTX? Is that the actual speed? The maximum speed? hulk# ifconfig nfe0 10.202.77.110 media 1000baseT ifconfig: SIOCSIFMEDIA (media): Device not configured man nfe says this is possible. hulk# ifconfig nfe0 10.202.77.110 media autoselect hulk# ifconfig nfe0 nfe0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8VLAN_MTU ether 00:18:f3:9f:f1:b4 inet6 fe80::218:f3ff:fe9f:f1b4%nfe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet 10.202.77.114 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.202.77.255 inet 10.202.77.76 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.202.77.255 inet 192.168.0.10 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 inet 192.168.1.10 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 inet 10.202.77.110 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.255.255.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX full-duplex) status: active hulk# ifconfig nfe0 mediaopt half-duplex No errors but cant see if it works. Question is, why cant I just do the following; hulk# ifconfig nfe0 media 1000baseT mediaopt half-duplex pciconf -lv [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:7:0:class=0x068000 card=0x82341043 chip=0x03ef10de rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' device = 'MCP61 Ethernet' class = bridge hulk# uname -a FreeBSD hulk.superhero.nl 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #1: Sun Feb 24 14:37:26 CET 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 hulk# Thanks and regards, Patrick ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flashplugin
On Saturday 07 June 2008, Derek Graham wrote: Hey all, I have tried using swfdec-plugin to do flash, but it doesnt seem to work too well at least with firefox. One ... I prefer being able to select what flash loads automaticly and Two ... I like to be able to see the flash video but all it does is freeze I can't seem to get linux-flashplugin7 anymore due to the restricted status. Flashplugin9 locks up also, which we all know already. I have heard gnash doesnt do much better... Anyone have a solution that works halfway? Derek Yep, I have to say it too, firefox for windows under wine is now my main firefox browser on freebsd, as the other solutions just don not work well enough, or just do not work ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flashplugin
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:47:56 Derek Graham wrote: on Saturday 07 June 2008Saturday 07 June 2008 Sam Fourman Jr. Sam Fourman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Derek Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on Saturday 07 June 2008Saturday 07 June 2008 Sam Fourman Jr. Sam Fourman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Derek Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I have tried using swfdec-plugin to do flash, but it doesnt seem to work too well at least with firefox. One ... I prefer being able to select what flash loads automaticly and Two ... I like to be able to see the flash video but all it does is freeze I can't seem to get linux-flashplugin7 anymore due to the restricted status. Flashplugin9 locks up also, which we all know already. I have heard gnash doesnt do much better... Anyone have a solution that works halfway? Derek use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows Flash 9 plugin Sam Fourman Jr. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] yeah i got that installed but its a pain to run wine ver of firefox for flash stuff and native firefox for normal usage. Do you recommend using wine firefox for normal use? I don't know, not really I have never been able to get the fonts to look right in wine firefox Sam Fourman Jr. I was just going to ask you about that, it all looks like crud with the fonts not right, anyone know how to setup the fonts for wine? Search for winetricks, it's a shell script that can download and install MS-Windows fonts(amoung other things) for you. Also PC-BSD has a PBI for installing MS-Windows fonts for wine, maybe check that out? Sincerely, Derek A. Graham -Alastair President D and M Computers, Inc. Exceeding your expectations everyday! http://www.dandmcomputers.co.cc/ (847) 305-1954 ext 101 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Flashplugin
[Disclaimer: I work for Adobe Systems. I have nothing to do with the Flash Player. I'm a grunt who works on other stuff. This is my personal opinion as a long-time FreeBSD user and I'm not making any statements for Adobe.] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jona Joachim Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 4:58 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flashplugin Flash is a big pain IMO. The Flash question has been asked *a lot* of times on this list. The answer usually boils down to use www/nspluginwrapper or use linux-firefox. Both solutions are far from optimal. My solution is to simply ignore Flash content. It makes your online experience much more enjoyable. This is my personal choice of course. I'm afraid that's the age-old question of demand. If there was enough demand out there, I'm sure that any software manufacturer would consider FreeBSD a platform that needs to be supported. Providing support for the Flash Player on FreeBSD is not a one-shot thing. You don't have some summer intern create a port of the current version of the player, release it and then be done with it. If a platform is officially supported it means dedication of a lot of resources: engineering and especially testing. Once a platform is adopted it needs to be rev'ed whenever the other platforms are updated, otherwise you end up again in a situation where a certain application that requires new Flash Player features does not work for you. This all means time and money. Adobe as any other public company has to justify its actions to its shareholders. If anybody scrutinizes the books and sees a substantial amount of engineering and QA resources being dedicated to a platform that has very little desktop market penetration and because of that some other important high-reach features were dropped, I'm sure that public company would have to answer some questions about it. Since the last discussion I actually contacted the Flash Player team and asked what it would take to get an official port for Flash Player on FreeBSD. I was asked to provide numbers that would indicate how many *desktop* FreeBSD systems are out there and how many of them are used on a *regular* basis. So, if anybody on this list can provide those answers, I'd be more than happy to do my part and relay the answers back to those people who can actually influence decisions in this area. Again, I'm not speaking for Adobe, I'm just offering to help as much as I can as a happy FreeBSD user (well, if it wasn't for http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=123735 on 8.0-CURRENT). I think it is rather reducing when you have to beg unkind vendors to eventually consider that you exist. I don't think proprietary binary formats have their place on the web. The WWW is an information exchange platform, why would you want to diffuse information around the globe when you know that a lot of people will not be able to decipher it? It's a bit arrogant I think. That's simply wrong. The Flash format byte-code is *not* proprietary. If you want to, you can go ahead and create your own Flash Player. The specifications for the format are freely available at: http://www.adobe.com/openscreenproject/developers/ And Gnash (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/), which was started before the spec was available, will certainly benefit from this. And to address a previous message: if your bank requires you to use the Flash Player to make a transaction, then you will need to get in touch with your bank and not blame it on the non-existence of the Flash Player on your platform. A disabled person with a text-only browser or a screen-reader will certainly have the same issues. My offer stands: if anybody can provide the numbers above, I'm going to forward them to the right people and work things from my end. Don't beat me up, I'm for the support - even if I'm not using FreeBSD as a desktop OS. Thanks and happy weekend - Tobias ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
password X GDM
After I had installed FreeBSD-7.0-R and enabled gdm in /etc/rc.conf, the system freezes when I try to enter gnome interface through GDM. When I type my blank password, the script fails to go on ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: password X GDM
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 12:20:46PM -0500, luizbcampos wrote: After I had installed FreeBSD-7.0-R and enabled gdm in /etc/rc.conf, the system freezes when I try to enter gnome interface through GDM. When I type my blank password, the script fails to go on I believe gdm/kdm/xdm hates blank passwords just as the system hates it pgp7ADONKJqSM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Flashplugin
On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 12:03:50AM +0200, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:33:26 -0500 Sam Fourman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows Flash 9 plugin People choosing FreeBSD shouldn't be forced to run windowish solution. The OS is not supported. That's a major problem in these modern times, although lots of fbsd people tend to say it is not. That's not everyday's live however. FreeBSD does not make the web. OK. So get busy anc contribute a flash9 plugin that works in FreeBSD. See if you can get the necessary information out of Adobe. jerry -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flashplugin
on Saturday 07 June 2008Saturday 07 June 2008 Alastair Hogge Alastair Hogge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:47:56 Derek Graham wrote: on Saturday 07 June 2008Saturday 07 June 2008 Sam Fourman Jr. Sam Fourman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Derek Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on Saturday 07 June 2008Saturday 07 June 2008 Sam Fourman Jr. Sam Fourman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Derek Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I have tried using swfdec-plugin to do flash, but it doesnt seem to work too well at least with firefox. One ... I prefer being able to select what flash loads automaticly and Two ... I like to be able to see the flash video but all it does is freeze I can't seem to get linux-flashplugin7 anymore due to the restricted status. Flashplugin9 locks up also, which we all know already. I have heard gnash doesnt do much better... Anyone have a solution that works halfway? Derek use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows Flash 9 plugin Sam Fourman Jr. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] yeah i got that installed but its a pain to run wine ver of firefox for flash stuff and native firefox for normal usage. Do you recommend using wine firefox for normal use? I don't know, not really I have never been able to get the fonts to look right in wine firefox Sam Fourman Jr. I was just going to ask you about that, it all looks like crud with the fonts not right, anyone know how to setup the fonts for wine? Search for winetricks, it's a shell script that can download and install MS-Windows fonts(amoung other things) for you. Also PC-BSD has a PBI for installing MS-Windows fonts for wine, maybe check that out? Sincerely, Derek A. Graham -Alastair President D and M Computers, Inc. Exceeding your expectations everyday! http://www.dandmcomputers.co.cc/ (847) 305-1954 ext 101 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] can you install PBI's on FreeBSD? thought they were only for PC-BSD Sincerely, Derek A. Graham President D and M Computers, Inc. Exceeding your expectations everyday! http://www.dandmcomputers.co.cc/ (847) 305-1954 ext 101 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flashplugin
on Saturday 07 June 2008Saturday 07 June 2008 Jona Joachim Jona Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-06-07, Dick Hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:33:26 -0500 Sam Fourman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows Flash 9 plugin People choosing FreeBSD shouldn't be forced to run windowish solution. The OS is not supported. That's a major problem in these modern times, although lots of fbsd people tend to say it is not. That's not everyday's live however. FreeBSD does not make the web. Flash is a big pain IMO. The Flash question has been asked *a lot* of times on this list. The answer usually boils down to use www/nspluginwrapper or use linux-firefox. Both solutions are far from optimal. My solution is to simply ignore Flash content. It makes your online experience much more enjoyable. This is my personal choice of course. I think it is rather reducing when you have to beg unkind vendors to eventually consider that you exist. I don't think proprietary binary formats have their place on the web. The WWW is an information exchange platform, why would you want to diffuse information around the globe when you know that a lot of people will not be able to decipher it? It's a bit arrogant I think. Jona Yeah I understand where you are going with that, but at the same time every interface is flash, java, or silverlight. Fortunately my current banking choice greendot doesnt use flash, but there are alot of web apps that require it to work and require using the latest version. There is where we need flash. We need these companies to realise that if majority of the websites on the planet use it, then they need to support every operating system with the means of accessing the web via a current maintained gui browser. Java, Flash, Silverlight and all applications that are used heavily in todays websites need to be made standardly ready and available to Windows, Macintosh, Unix(including linux and freebsd and all 'nix os) I do not want to have to use wine to get to a important secure login for a bank or similar site when I am running something better then windows My $0.02 Sincerely, Derek A. Graham President D and M Computers, Inc. Exceeding your expectations everyday! http://www.dandmcomputers.co.cc/ (847) 305-1954 ext 101 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flashplugin
on Saturday 07 June 2008Saturday 07 June 2008 Tobias Hoellrich Tobias Hoellrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Disclaimer: I work for Adobe Systems. I have nothing to do with the Flash Player. I'm a grunt who works on other stuff. This is my personal opinion as a long-time FreeBSD user and I'm not making any statements for Adobe.] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jona Joachim Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 4:58 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flashplugin Flash is a big pain IMO. The Flash question has been asked *a lot* of times on this list. The answer usually boils down to use www/nspluginwrapper or use linux-firefox. Both solutions are far from optimal. My solution is to simply ignore Flash content. It makes your online experience much more enjoyable. This is my personal choice of course. I'm afraid that's the age-old question of demand. If there was enough demand out there, I'm sure that any software manufacturer would consider FreeBSD a platform that needs to be supported. Providing support for the Flash Player on FreeBSD is not a one-shot thing. You don't have some summer intern create a port of the current version of the player, release it and then be done with it. If a platform is officially supported it means dedication of a lot of resources: engineering and especially testing. Once a platform is adopted it needs to be rev'ed whenever the other platforms are updated, otherwise you end up again in a situation where a certain application that requires new Flash Player features does not work for you. This all means time and money. Adobe as any other public company has to justify its actions to its shareholders. If anybody scrutinizes the books and sees a substantial amount of engineering and QA resources being dedicated to a platform that has very little desktop market penetration and because of that some other important high-reach features were dropped, I'm sure that public company would have to answer some questions about it. Since the last discussion I actually contacted the Flash Player team and asked what it would take to get an official port for Flash Player on FreeBSD. I was asked to provide numbers that would indicate how many *desktop* FreeBSD systems are out there and how many of them are used on a *regular* basis. So, if anybody on this list can provide those answers, I'd be more than happy to do my part and relay the answers back to those people who can actually influence decisions in this area. Again, I'm not speaking for Adobe, I'm just offering to help as much as I can as a happy FreeBSD user (well, if it wasn't for http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=123735 on 8.0-CURRENT). I think it is rather reducing when you have to beg unkind vendors to eventually consider that you exist. I don't think proprietary binary formats have their place on the web. The WWW is an information exchange platform, why would you want to diffuse information around the globe when you know that a lot of people will not be able to decipher it? It's a bit arrogant I think. That's simply wrong. The Flash format byte-code is *not* proprietary. If you want to, you can go ahead and create your own Flash Player. The specifications for the format are freely available at: http://www.adobe.com/openscreenproject/developers/ And Gnash (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/), which was started before the spec was available, will certainly benefit from this. And to address a previous message: if your bank requires you to use the Flash Player to make a transaction, then you will need to get in touch with your bank and not blame it on the non-existence of the Flash Player on your platform. A disabled person with a text-only browser or a screen-reader will certainly have the same issues. My offer stands: if anybody can provide the numbers above, I'm going to forward them to the right people and work things from my end. Don't beat me up, I'm for the support - even if I'm not using FreeBSD as a desktop OS. Thanks and happy weekend - Tobias ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD is my one and only desktop, I run a small business and do not tend to like to switch back and forth from os's mainly cause i use sql-ledger and it is my main server to keep up with my bookkeeping. My wifes pc was using pc-bsd but lack of flash made her goto kubuntu Sincerely, Derek A. Graham President D and M Computers, Inc. Exceeding your expectations everyday! http://www.dandmcomputers.co.cc/ (847) 305-1954 ext 101 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to
The FreeBSD Diary: 2008-05-18 - 2008-06-07
The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists and/or The FreeBSD Diary http://www.freebsddiary.org/. -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flashplugin
Well, there is a site that does BSD usage statistics (they recently did a post on this list). I recommend people use their script to raise the stats. http://www.bsdstats.org/ Camilo Bono Vince Malum Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 17:09:08 -0700 From: Tobias Hoellrich Subject: RE: Flashplugin To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My offer stands: if anybody can provide the numbers above, I'm going to forward them to the right people and work things from my end. Don't beat me up, I'm for the support - even if I'm not using FreeBSD as a desktop OS. Thanks and happy weekend - Tobias ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flashplugin
Tobias Hoellrich wrote: Since the last discussion I actually contacted the Flash Player team and asked what it would take to get an official port for Flash Player on FreeBSD. I was asked to provide numbers that would indicate how many *desktop* FreeBSD systems are out there and how many of them are used on a *regular* basis. So, if anybody on this list can provide those answers, I'd be more than happy to do my part and relay the answers back to those people who can actually influence decisions in this area. Again, I'm not speaking for Adobe, I'm just offering to help as much as I can as a happy FreeBSD user (well, if it wasn't for http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=123735 on 8.0-CURRENT). Well, if you consider PC-BSD as FreeBSD -- which it is for programmatic purposes, then at least 15,000 users are prepared to voluntarily self-report themselves as such. PC-BSD by it's nature implies desktop usage. Note that PC-BSD invites users to register with BSD Stats at install time. Other BSD variants require the user to have heard about and then gone and installed the reporting software, so the uptake is a lower proportion of the user base. Regular usage is a hard one. BSD stats requires a monthly report from each server, so the figures they have don't include any significant amount of historical cruft. Reports are also generated when the system reboots, but as far as I know, the BSD Stats project hasn't analysed its data to extract any information about how often people reboot their systems. http://www.bsdstats.org/ Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Flashplugin
Tobias Hoellrich wrote: Since the last discussion I actually contacted the Flash Player team and asked what it would take to get an official port for Flash Player on FreeBSD. I was asked to provide numbers that would indicate how many *desktop* FreeBSD systems are out there and how many of them are used on a *regular* basis. So, if anybody on this list can provide those answers, I'd be more than happy to do my part and relay the answers back to those people who can actually influence decisions in this area. Again, I'm not speaking for Adobe, I'm just offering to help as much as I can as a happy FreeBSD user (well, if it wasn't for http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=123735 on 8.0-CURRENT). Well, if you consider PC-BSD as FreeBSD -- which it is for programmatic purposes, then at least 15,000 users are prepared to voluntarily self-report themselves as such. PC-BSD by it's nature implies desktop usage. Note that PC-BSD invites users to register with BSD Stats at install time. Other BSD variants require the user to have heard about and then gone and installed the reporting software, so the uptake is a lower proportion of the user base. Regular usage is a hard one. BSD stats requires a monthly report from each server, so the figures they have don't include any significant amount of historical cruft. Reports are also generated when the system reboots, but as far as I know, the BSD Stats project hasn't analysed its data to extract any information about how often people reboot their systems. http://www.bsdstats.org/ Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Flashplugin
Tobias Hoellrich wrote: Since the last discussion I actually contacted the Flash Player team and asked what it would take to get an official port for Flash Player on FreeBSD. I was asked to provide numbers that would indicate how many *desktop* FreeBSD systems are out there and how many of them are used on a *regular* basis. So, if anybody on this list can provide those answers, I'd be more than happy to do my part and relay the answers back to those people who can actually influence decisions in this area. Again, I'm not speaking for Adobe, I'm just offering to help as much as I can as a happy FreeBSD user (well, if it wasn't for http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=123735 on 8.0-CURRENT). Well, if you consider PC-BSD as FreeBSD -- which it is for programmatic purposes, then at least 15,000 users are prepared to voluntarily self-report themselves as such. PC-BSD by it's nature implies desktop usage. Note that PC-BSD invites users to register with BSD Stats at install time. Other BSD variants require the user to have heard about and then gone and installed the reporting software, so the uptake is a lower proportion of the user base. Regular usage is a hard one. BSD stats requires a monthly report from each server, so the figures they have don't include any significant amount of historical cruft. Reports are also generated when the system reboots, but as far as I know, the BSD Stats project hasn't analysed its data to extract any information about how often people reboot their systems. http://www.bsdstats.org/ Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
