error in php5 make install
Turn off all options accept Apache module === php5-5.2.9 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf-2.62 - found === php5-5.2.9 depends on executable: pkg-config - found === php5-5.2.9 depends on shared library: xml2.5 - found === Configuring for php5-5.2.9 cannot create /usr/ports/lang/php5/work/php-5.2.9/aclocal.m4: No such file or directory *** Error code 2 Script didn't even look for m4 dependent. m4 is installed already. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best archiver? (for music)
lame -h -b 96 - i was able to tell the difference on every song, but it wasn't really huge deal. hm. oh, yeah, my new box has to have a superior soundcard. and i'll pony up for even better speakers too. (so when i'm ready, i'll ask what's best. maybe find something on ebay.) my hearing is exceptionally good and while call myself an audiophile, having all my tunes right here at fingertips is i don't call myself audiophile (rather opposite, but i have normal hearing), just wanted to point out how much is really enough. do use -h -V 3 when compressing. a major win. having said that, can you point me to a basic tutorial on lame? i've got 1581620 blocks of mp3 @ 128kbit. lectures. when i tried to cut the quality even by a bit it was evident immediately. rar compresses these file to 1482404 blocks very very slowly. it probably makes sense to just burn the mp3 files to a dvd and be safe. -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: issues in XFCE 4.6
Your problem is not xfce but xorg. It went through massive changes in 7.1 and it's now mandatory to have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf. You have to add Option AllowEmptyInput Off statement as last line in ServerLayout section. Doing console command Xorg -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf will build you one. By the way i used the package version of xfce4 on 7.1 and it's working just fine after i added the above xorg fixes. That line was already in xorg.conf (it was necessary to get a mouse to work after the last xorg update in January). However, I did not have it as the last line in the ServerLayout section. I moved it to the last line, but that didn't make a difference. There's still no XFCE menu, and without the ability to update the settings in XFCE, it's pretty much unusable... Keith ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: issues in XFCE 4.6
Keith Seyffarth wrote: Your problem is not xfce but xorg. It went through massive changes in 7.1 and it's now mandatory to have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf. You have to add Option AllowEmptyInput Off statement as last line in ServerLayout section. Doing console command Xorg -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf will build you one. By the way i used the package version of xfce4 on 7.1 and it's working just fine after i added the above xorg fixes. That line was already in xorg.conf (it was necessary to get a mouse to work after the last xorg update in January). However, I did not have it as the last line in the ServerLayout section. I moved it to the last line, but that didn't make a difference. There's still no XFCE menu, and without the ability to update the settings in XFCE, it's pretty much unusable... Keith As i said the packages worked for me. Blow away the xfce and xorg ports and do the xorg mega package and the xfce mega package. if that fails then bkup your user data and install a clean virgin version of 7.1 and the xorg and xfce packages. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anonymizer tool like Tor?
through a GELI encrypted GEOM. (No plain-text ever touches the disk.) much better - use keyboard password. Edit the rc.conf file to spoof the Ethernet (MAC) hardware address to be a new pseudo-random value at each boot. Configure the system to automatically receive an IP address via DHCP. Dissable the wireless card. (Most have a physical switch.) Boot the system with the USB stick at home. Leave the USB stick at home! Plug the laptop it into a cigarette lighter adapter in your car. Go perusing through urban areas during daylight hours looking for un-secured wireless networks. (There are many to be found.) Once you find a connection, do your business. this works well in Poland. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: error in php5 make install
Fbsd1 wrote: Turn off all options accept Apache module === php5-5.2.9 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf-2.62 - found === php5-5.2.9 depends on executable: pkg-config - found === php5-5.2.9 depends on shared library: xml2.5 - found === Configuring for php5-5.2.9 cannot create /usr/ports/lang/php5/work/php-5.2.9/aclocal.m4: No such file or directory *** Error code 2 Script didn't even look for m4 dependent. m4 is installed already. are you using root account when performing the install ? Type: id, this will give you the current account you are using. Peter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best archiver? (for music)
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 08:05:59PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: lame -h -V 3 - nobody could tell the difference, it gives 200kbps bitrate lame -h -b 192 - as above lame -h -b 128 - they were able to tell difference, but not on all music/songs lame -h -b 96 - i was able to tell the difference on every song, but it wasn't really huge deal. my hearing is exceptionally good and while call myself an audiophile, having all my tunes right here at fingertips is a major win. having said that, can you point me to a basic tutorial on lame? man lame i've got 1581620 blocks of mp3 @ 128kbit. lectures. when i tried to cut the quality even by a bit it was evident immediately. rar compresses these file to 1482404 blocks very very slowly. it probably makes sense to just burn the mp3 files to a dvd and be safe. There is a special codec for speech. You'll find it the audio/speex port. From the pkg-descr: The Speex is a patent-free, Open Source/Free Software voice codec. Unlike other codecs like MP3 and Ogg Vorbis, Speex is designed to compress voice at bitrates in the 2-45 kbps range. Possible applications include VoIP, Internet audio streaming, archiving of speech data (e.g. voice mail), and audio books. In some sense, it is meant to be complementary to the Ogg Vorbis codec. This might perform better at compressing lectures. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpaSmqhF33K3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: best archiver? (for music)
There is a special codec for speech. You'll find it the audio/speex port. From the pkg-descr: actually i use it with asterisk - at about 15kbps (VBR) there are audible differences between this and standard 64kbps a-law - but the differences are POSITIVE - speech sounds clearer! The Speex is a patent-free, Open Source/Free Software voice codec. Unlike other codecs like MP3 and Ogg Vorbis, Speex is designed to compress voice at bitrates in the 2-45 kbps range. Possible applications include VoIP, Internet audio streaming, archiving of speech data (e.g. voice mail), and audio books. In some sense, it is meant to be complementary to the Ogg Vorbis codec. This might perform better at compressing lectures. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
make buildworld in parallel
Hi, Is it valid to use the option -j in the make of buildworld? Like: make -j 8 buildworld TIA Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Logcheck errors after cvsup
Hi, I cvsupped my portstree yesterday and updated my system with portupgrade -a. All went well except for logcheck. Since the cvsup I don't receive the normal hourly mail with the results of the checking in my mailbox but the following (the subject of the mail is: Cron logch...@yokozuna if [ -x /usr/local/sbin/logcheck ]; then nice -n10 /usr/local/sbin/logcheck; fi): /usr/local/sbin/logcheck: command substitution: line 49: syntax error near unexpected token `)' /usr/local/sbin/logcheck: command substitution: line 49: `date +'%Y-%m-%d %H: %M')' /usr/local/sbin/logcheck: command substitution: line 530: syntax error near unexpected token `)' /usr/local/sbin/logcheck: command substitution: line 530: `hostname -f)' /usr/local/sbin/logcheck: command substitution: line 621: syntax error near unexpected token `)' /usr/local/sbin/logcheck: command substitution: line 621: `mktemp -d /tmp/logcheck.XX)' mkdir: /cracking: Permission denied /usr/local/sbin/logcheck: command substitution: line 145: syntax error near unexpected token `)' /usr/local/sbin/logcheck: command substitution: line 145: `export)' Null message body; hope that's ok usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dIPRrvW] file ... unlink file Has someon perhaps an idea what happened here? I couldn't find anything that suggested that the logcheck files had changed or something. Thanks in advance for the help. Marco -- You will soon meet a person who will play an important role in your life. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sed error unescaped newline inside substitute pattern
On Friday 13 March 2009, David Banning wrote: Yes - I have control of that - so I could filter out the problem in php. The only problem is that I don't know what I am filtering. If I know exactly what the erroneous characters are I could filter them - I have looked at the file in vi but the problematic characters are invisible there. Would the php addcslashes() function do what you need? ?php $in = This is the input from the web server; $out = addcslashes($in,\n); var_dump ($out); ? This results in: string(42) This\nis\nthe\ninput\nfrom the\nweb server -- Mike Clarke ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
make installworld fails on RELEASE6.4 amd64
Hi, I am facing a problem that I cannot solve when trying to reinstall wolrd on 6.4 amd 64. On a brand new machine (Dell powerEdge 2950) I install RELEASE 6.4 amd64: FreeBSD ufo2.cs.ait.ac.th 6.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE #0: Wed Nov 26 08:37:42 UTC 2008 r...@palmer.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP amd64 Then I buildworld. Reboot in single user, adjkerntz -i Then make installworld and it fails with: === sys/boot/i386/boot2 (install) cc -Os -fno-guess-branch-probability -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-unit-at-a-time -mno-align-long-strings -mrtd -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -DUFS1_AND_UFS2 -DFLAGS=0x80 -DSIOPRT=0x3f8 -DSIOFMT=0x3 -DSIOSPD=9600 -I/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/../../common -I/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/../btx/lib -I. -Wall -Waggregate-return -Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-align -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -ffreestanding -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -m32 -march=i386 -S -o boot2.s.tmp /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/boot2.c sed -e '/align/d' -e '/nop/d' boot2.s.tmp boot2.s rm -f boot2.s.tmp as --32 -o boot2.o boot2.s ld -static -N --gc-sections -nostdlib -m elf_i386_fbsd -Ttext 0x2000 -o boot2.out /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/../btx/lib/crt0.o boot2.o sio.o objcopy -S -O binary boot2.out boot2.bin btxld -v -E 0x2000 -f bin -b /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/../btx/btx/btx -l boot2.ldr -o boot2.ld -P 1 boot2.bin btxld:No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2. *** Error code 1 I don't see any reason why installworld is trying to rebuild boot2.s Below are extracts of what has been going on... -- Part of buildworld === sys/boot/i386/boot2 (all) objcopy -S -O binary boot1.out boot1 dd if=/dev/zero of=boot2.ldr bs=276 count=1 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 276 bytes transferred in 0.44 secs (6291456 bytes/sec) cc -Os -fno-guess-branch-probability -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-unit-at-a-time -mno-align-long-strings -mrtd -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -DUFS1_AND_UFS2 -DFLAGS=0x80 -DSIOPRT=0x3f8 -DSIOFMT=0x3 -DSIOSPD=9600 -I/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/../../common -I/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/../btx/lib -I. -Wall -Waggregate-return -Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-align -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -ffreestanding -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -m32 -march=i386 -S -o boot2.s.tmp /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/boot2.c sed -e '/align/d' -e '/nop/d' boot2.s.tmp boot2.s rm -f boot2.s.tmp as --32 -o boot2.o boot2.s cc -Os -fno-guess-branch-probability -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-unit-at-a-time -mno-align-long-strings -mrtd -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -DUFS1_AND_UFS2 -DFLAGS=0x80 -DSIOPRT=0x3f8 -DSIOFMT=0x3 -DSIOSPD=9600 -I/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/../../common -I/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/../btx/lib -I. -Wall -Waggregate-return -Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-align -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -ffreestanding -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -m32 -march=i386 -c /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/sio.S ld -static -N --gc-sections -nostdlib -m elf_i386_fbsd -Ttext 0x2000 -o boot2.out /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/../btx/lib/crt0.o boot2.o sio.o objcopy -S -O binary boot2.out boot2.bin btxld -v -E 0x2000 -f bin -b /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/../btx/btx/btx -l boot2.ldr -o boot2.ld -P 1 boot2.bin kernel: ver=1.02 size=680 load=9000 entry=9010 map=16M pgctl=1:1 client: fmt=bin size=14f9 text=0 data=0 bss=0 entry=0 output: fmt=bin size=1c8d text=114 data=1b79 org=0 entry=0 371 bytes available dd if=boot2.ld of=boot2 obs=7680 conv=osync 14+1 records in 1+0 records out 7680 bytes transferred in 0.61 secs (125829120 bytes/sec) cat boot1 boot2 boot produces the files in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2: total 94 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 50 Mar 14 15:26 machine - /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/../../../i386/include -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 23 Mar 14 15:26 boot2.h -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2345 Mar 14 15:26 boot1.out -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2316 Mar 14 15:26 boot1.o -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2056 Mar 14 15:26 .depend -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1028 Mar 14 15:39 sio.o -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26549 Mar 14 15:39 boot2.s -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8059 Mar 14 15:39 boot2.out -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 9080 Mar 14 15:39 boot2.o -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel276 Mar 14 15:39 boot2.ldr -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 7309 Mar 14 15:39 boot2.ld -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5369 Mar 14 15:39 boot2.bin -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 7680 Mar 14 15:39 boot2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel512 Mar 14 15:39 boot1 -rw-r--r--
boot loader I/O through ethernet
Hello, First of all, I'm new around here so please forgive me if I asked a stupid question. More and more systems are made without serial ports these days. This means I can't access the loader prompt on FreeBSD without a monitor and keyboard, which is an annoyance. So my question is, is there a way to channel input and output of the loader through LAN / Ethernet by software only and somehow receiving it on the other side? Thanks in advance. Regards, Cipta ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: boot loader I/O through ethernet
Hi, More and more systems are made without serial ports these days. This means I can't access the loader prompt on FreeBSD without a monitor and keyboard, which is an annoyance. So my question is, is there a way to channel input and output of the loader through LAN / Ethernet by software only and somehow receiving it on the other side? Thanks in advance. I may be wrong but... I think that depends on the hardware (and the BIOS), not on the specific OS that you are using. The loader is in charge of loading the OS, it is not possible to launch a redirection program at the loader stage. Any plateform that do not offer PS/2 port (but I expet them to offer USB port anyway) will offer some kind of keayboard/screen redirection (on serial, ethernet...) Bests, olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: error in php5 make install
Peter wrote: Fbsd1 wrote: Turn off all options accept Apache module === php5-5.2.9 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf-2.62 - found === php5-5.2.9 depends on executable: pkg-config - found === php5-5.2.9 depends on shared library: xml2.5 - found === Configuring for php5-5.2.9 cannot create /usr/ports/lang/php5/work/php-5.2.9/aclocal.m4: No such file or directory *** Error code 2 Script didn't even look for m4 dependent. m4 is installed already. are you using root account when performing the install ? Type: id, this will give you the current account you are using. Peter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Yes i am using root to install. I fixed the problem by doing make clean then make install. Must have been trash left over from first try. It worked ok now. Thanks any way. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best archiver? (for music)
Gary Kline wrote: my hearing is exceptionally good and while call myself an audiophile, [...] lectures. when i tried to cut the quality even by a bit it was evident immediately. rar compresses these file to If you care for quality (and call yourself an audiophile), you should read up on what you are doing before you start it. To compare different compression rates, you have to do both from the original. Applying lossy compression twice -- even with the same codec -- might give you artifacts that will not appear with just one run. For the same reason, you do not convert between lossy formats. Each might give different kinds of artifacts that you do not want to combine. (Of course, this does not really contradict the suggestions you got to try speex if you want to do a major reduction of bitrate for your voice mp3 files to save space.) The difference between lame with good settings and a bad mp3 encoder is probably bigger than between some better codec and mp3. Considering that, you should always stick to some --preset * options with lame, if you do not know better. Are you sure you can hear the difference between your flac originals and --preset standard lame encoded mp3? Consider a double blind test. This is probably all in the lame FAQ or similar sources. I do keep flac files after ripping CDs, too, but not because I think I can hear the difference between them and the ogg vorbis files I produce. I rather like the option to go to a different lossy format someday. (I must admit that I have never tested if I can hear the difference between an mp3 that come from the original or an mp3 that comes from a higher bitrate ogg. Actually, I doubt it.) I really do not see the point in saving one or two percent space by applying lzma/7z, rar, or similar compression. The savings in electricity by not doing that are better invested in a new hard drive. ;-) BTW: lzma is the default compression of 7z. GNU tar offers lzma, too, but without the 7z container. If you look at archivers/gtar history, you will see that it seems not to have finalized on the library (and format?): http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/archivers/gtar/Makefile.diff?r1=1.63;r2=1.64 I am not an expert at all. You better read the lame (and ogg, speex, ...) manual and FAQ yourself that is hopefully written by some expert. Cheers, Jan Henrik ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Bizarre behaviour of Linux binary under 7.1
Hello, I recently upgraded from 6.3 (i386) to 7.1p3 (amd64) with a view to experimenting with zfs. Mostly, everything went smoothly, but I am getting some very odd behaviour from a linux utility. The program is very simple, it has two executables, A and B. A is invoked by the user, and based upon the options given builds a list of files to process. B is then repeatedly invoked by A with the name of a file to process, and the name of a non existent file to write the results to. When B returns, A reads the results from the output file, deletes it and moves on. This all worked fine on 6.3, but cannot be made to work as intended on 7.1. After appropriate use of truss invoking B directly, I found that the source of problems was B being unable to create its output file /tmp/...: linux_open(/tmp/1234.tmp,0x42,0600)ERR#13 'Permission denied' which is odd. /tmp has suitable permissions: #ls -al /tmp drwxrwxrwt 12 root wheel 720 14 Mar 11:25 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root wheel 512 13 Mar 10:32 .. ... and I can quite happily create a identically named file in /tmp myself: #echo test /tmp/1234.tmp #cat /tmp/1234.tmp test #rm /tmp/1234.tmp Bizarrely, however, if I instead invoke B and request its output go to /var/tmp/... instead of /tmp/..., it completes successfully. As a temporary workaround, I therefore tried to create a wrapper around B: #mv /usr/local/bin/B /usr/local/bin/B2 #cat /usr/local/bin/B #!/bin/sh B2 $1 $2 /var$3 mv /var$3 $3 the idea being that the file would be written to /var/tmp/... by (as now) B2, then moved across by my script to where it was expected. When invoked directly, this works quite happily. However, even more bizarrely, when I now call A, allowing it to invoke (my) B, I get exactly the same behaviour from my wrapper script as (the original) B was showing previously, specifically, it is unable to create the file /tmp/ As a final workaround, I inserted instead added a sleep to my script in place of mv ..., and instead had an external process detect the presence of /var/tmp/... and move it across to /tmp. This, unsurprisingly, worked. Interestingly, if I rewrote my wrapper script to, B2 $1 $2 /var$3 sleep 3 cat /var$3 $3 rm /var$3 and had the external process simply touch /tmp/..., my wrapper script worked, suggesting that the permissions problem is to do with creating a new file, not writing to an existing one. A few final points: I've tried both an md based /tmp and tmpfs with the same result. Everything worked perfectly on 6.3 i386. If I run A as root, everything works without error. My guess is that there's something a bit strange in linux_compat, either as a result of going to amd64 or to 7.1, and that affects both linux executables, and any processes that they create, but I'm not really sure beyond that. Can anyone shed any light on what might be going on? Kind Regards, Christopher Key ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best archiver? (for music)
For the same reason, you do not convert between lossy formats. Each might give different kinds of artifacts that you do not want to combine. (Of especially true with mp3 and ogg Are you sure you can hear the difference between your flac originals and --preset standard lame encoded mp3? Consider a double blind test. i'm almost sure he can't. I have never tested if I can hear the difference between an mp3 that come from the original or an mp3 that comes from a higher bitrate ogg. Actually, I for me - hearing the difference between mp3 @ 128kbit CBR (compressed with lame) and uncompressed is on the edge of detection. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sys/vimage.h and net/opt_inet6 not exist on 7.1 release?
Jacky Oh wrote: Hi, Im trying to compile sys/netinet/ip_fw_pfil.c as example of KLD firewall module. This file include net/opt_inet6.h and sys/vimage.h but the compiler dont find it. This files seems that was deleted from the source tree. Anyone know something?. Thanks sys/vimage.h is not part of the RELENG_7 branch. So, it's not referenced in the RELENG_7 ip_fw_pfil.c. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/netinet/ip_fw_pfil.c?only_with_tag=RELENG_7 Do you by any chance have mixed up branches(HEAD and RELENG_7). Did you get ip_fw_pfil.c from HEAD? Nikos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Bizarre behaviour of Linux binary under 7.1
Christopher Key wrote: Hello, I recently upgraded from 6.3 (i386) to 7.1p3 (amd64) with a view to experimenting with zfs. Mostly, everything went smoothly, but I am getting some very odd behaviour from a linux utility. The program is very simple, it has two executables, A and B. A is invoked by the user, and based upon the options given builds a list of files to process. B is then repeatedly invoked by A with the name of a file to process, and the name of a non existent file to write the results to. When B returns, A reads the results from the output file, deletes it and moves on. This all worked fine on 6.3, but cannot be made to work as intended on 7.1. After appropriate use of truss invoking B directly, I found that the source of problems was B being unable to create its output file /tmp/...: linux_open(/tmp/1234.tmp,0x42,0600)ERR#13 'Permission denied' which is odd. /tmp has suitable permissions: #ls -al /tmp drwxrwxrwt 12 root wheel 720 14 Mar 11:25 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root wheel 512 13 Mar 10:32 .. ... and I can quite happily create a identically named file in /tmp myself: #echo test /tmp/1234.tmp #cat /tmp/1234.tmp test #rm /tmp/1234.tmp Bizarrely, however, if I instead invoke B and request its output go to /var/tmp/... instead of /tmp/..., it completes successfully. As a temporary workaround, I therefore tried to create a wrapper around B: #mv /usr/local/bin/B /usr/local/bin/B2 #cat /usr/local/bin/B #!/bin/sh B2 $1 $2 /var$3 mv /var$3 $3 the idea being that the file would be written to /var/tmp/... by (as now) B2, then moved across by my script to where it was expected. When invoked directly, this works quite happily. However, even more bizarrely, when I now call A, allowing it to invoke (my) B, I get exactly the same behaviour from my wrapper script as (the original) B was showing previously, specifically, it is unable to create the file /tmp/ As a final workaround, I inserted instead added a sleep to my script in place of mv ..., and instead had an external process detect the presence of /var/tmp/... and move it across to /tmp. This, unsurprisingly, worked. Interestingly, if I rewrote my wrapper script to, B2 $1 $2 /var$3 sleep 3 cat /var$3 $3 rm /var$3 and had the external process simply touch /tmp/..., my wrapper script worked, suggesting that the permissions problem is to do with creating a new file, not writing to an existing one. A few final points: I've tried both an md based /tmp and tmpfs with the same result. Everything worked perfectly on 6.3 i386. If I run A as root, everything works without error. My guess is that there's something a bit strange in linux_compat, either as a result of going to amd64 or to 7.1, and that affects both linux executables, and any processes that they create, but I'm not really sure beyond that. Can anyone shed any light on what might be going on? Kind Regards, Christopher Key Whenever you do an upgrade between major versions there is ABI breakage. This necessitates either the rebuild of all installed ports or deleting/reinstalling. Since my needs are relatively simple from a server perspective when I change from one major version to another I start over from scratch and then pull in configs from backups. When upgrading within a major version this is not required, e.g., from 7.0 to 7.1 or 6.3 to 6.4. It's only a consideration when it is a jump like 6.x to 7.x. The other approach is to use portupgrade to force all ports to be rebuilt linked against 7.x libs. One thing to watch out for is if you're not careful it is possible for some ports in a dependency chain to not be rebuilt and still linked against 6.x and some do get rebuilt linked against the new 7.x libs. This can give you flaky behavior. Byt forcing a massive upgrade/rebuild of everything causes all ports will get linked against 7.x libs during the rebuild. Don't know if this is the source of your problem, but it may be something you can easily rule out. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: boot loader I/O through ethernet
question. More and more systems are made without serial ports these days. This means I can't access the loader prompt on FreeBSD without a monitor and keyboard, which is an annoyance. So my question is, is there a way to channel input and output of the loader through LAN / Ethernet by software only and somehow receiving it on the other side? Thanks in advance. Regards, FreeBSD can be PXE booted, but as it's PC, you have to connect keyboard and monitor to change BIOS settings to PXE. It's as stupid as keyboard not detected, press F1 to continue But it's PC anyway ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Logcheck errors after cvsup
Le Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:48:58 +0100, Marco Beishuizen mb...@xs4all.nl: I cvsupped my portstree yesterday and updated my system with portupgrade -a. All went well except for logcheck. Since the cvsup I don't receive the normal hourly mail with the results of the checking in my mailbox but the following (the subject of the mail is: Cron logch...@yokozuna if [ -x /usr/local/sbin/logcheck ]; then nice -n10 /usr/local/sbin/logcheck; fi): /usr/local/sbin/logcheck: command substitution: line 49: syntax error near unexpected token `)' I guess it is related to the recent bash upgrade. Check the ports@ mailing list, there are some topics about bash4. Looks like it is broken. Regards. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Bizarre behaviour of Linux binary under 7.1
On Mar 14 2009, Michael Powell wrote: Christopher Key wrote: Hello, I recently upgraded from 6.3 (i386) to 7.1p3 (amd64) with a view to experimenting with zfs. Mostly, everything went smoothly, but I am getting some very odd behaviour from a linux utility. The program is very simple, it has two executables, A and B. A is invoked by the user, and based upon the options given builds a list of files to process. B is then repeatedly invoked by A with the name of a file to process, and the name of a non existent file to write the results to. When B returns, A reads the results from the output file, deletes it and moves on. This all worked fine on 6.3, but cannot be made to work as intended on 7.1. After appropriate use of truss invoking B directly, I found that the source of problems was B being unable to create its output file /tmp/...: linux_open(/tmp/1234.tmp,0x42,0600)ERR#13 'Permission denied' which is odd. /tmp has suitable permissions: #ls -al /tmp drwxrwxrwt 12 root wheel 720 14 Mar 11:25 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root wheel 512 13 Mar 10:32 .. ... and I can quite happily create a identically named file in /tmp myself: #echo test /tmp/1234.tmp #cat /tmp/1234.tmp test #rm /tmp/1234.tmp Bizarrely, however, if I instead invoke B and request its output go to /var/tmp/... instead of /tmp/..., it completes successfully. As a temporary workaround, I therefore tried to create a wrapper around B: #mv /usr/local/bin/B /usr/local/bin/B2 #cat /usr/local/bin/B #!/bin/sh B2 $1 $2 /var$3 mv /var$3 $3 the idea being that the file would be written to /var/tmp/... by (as now) B2, then moved across by my script to where it was expected. When invoked directly, this works quite happily. However, even more bizarrely, when I now call A, allowing it to invoke (my) B, I get exactly the same behaviour from my wrapper script as (the original) B was showing previously, specifically, it is unable to create the file /tmp/ As a final workaround, I inserted instead added a sleep to my script in place of mv ..., and instead had an external process detect the presence of /var/tmp/... and move it across to /tmp. This, unsurprisingly, worked. Interestingly, if I rewrote my wrapper script to, B2 $1 $2 /var$3 sleep 3 cat /var$3 $3 rm /var$3 and had the external process simply touch /tmp/..., my wrapper script worked, suggesting that the permissions problem is to do with creating a new file, not writing to an existing one. A few final points: I've tried both an md based /tmp and tmpfs with the same result. Everything worked perfectly on 6.3 i386. If I run A as root, everything works without error. My guess is that there's something a bit strange in linux_compat, either as a result of going to amd64 or to 7.1, and that affects both linux executables, and any processes that they create, but I'm not really sure beyond that. Can anyone shed any light on what might be going on? Kind Regards, Christopher Key Whenever you do an upgrade between major versions there is ABI breakage. This necessitates either the rebuild of all installed ports or deleting/reinstalling. Since my needs are relatively simple from a server perspective when I change from one major version to another I start over from scratch and then pull in configs from backups. When upgrading within a major version this is not required, e.g., from 7.0 to 7.1 or 6.3 to 6.4. It's only a consideration when it is a jump like 6.x to 7.x. The other approach is to use portupgrade to force all ports to be rebuilt linked against 7.x libs. One thing to watch out for is if you're not careful it is possible for some ports in a dependency chain to not be rebuilt and still linked against 6.x and some do get rebuilt linked against the new 7.x libs. This can give you flaky behavior. Byt forcing a massive upgrade/rebuild of everything causes all ports will get linked against 7.x libs during the rebuild. Don't know if this is the source of your problem, but it may be something you can easily rule out. Thanks Mike, This was a fresh install to an effectively clean disk. I then csupped and rebuilt with a custom kernel, before installing ports. The application in question isn't in the ports tree, and distributed in binary form, containing only the two executables. If relevant, I'm using linux_base-fc4. Having written the above, it occurs to me that I should probably try a generic kernel too. I'll give that a go and report back. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: issues in XFCE 4.6
As i said the packages worked for me. Blow away the xfce and xorg ports and do the xorg mega package and the xfce mega package. if that fails then bkup your user data and install a clean virgin version of 7.1 and the xorg and xfce packages. Does anyone have an option other than blowing away XORG? I'd really rather not spend the next several days trying to get XORG installed again. Really, if there's just a command line way to get to the XFCE settings and change the resolution, it would probably be usable. I'm really not too concerned about broken icons. Keith S. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: the pause that removes
prad p...@towardsfreedom.com writes: one of the neat things i've found about freebsd vs linux is the 'instantaneous' rm. when you remove a large file or a substantial directory, freebsd does it right away ard you get your prompt back, while with every linux i've tried, you wait and wait and wait. i presume freebsd just takes the pointer to the file out so it can be overwritten, while may be the linuxes fill stuff with zeros or something like that?? is this instantaneity a result of the ufs file system vs say ext3 or reiser? I've never noticed that large directory trees were instantaneous to remove on any filesystem. I haven't done any benchmarks, either, though. I'm not going to accept it as a real FreeBSD advantage unless I saw some solid benchmarks... -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anyone runs 7.1 with an IBM X3650 (64 bits ARCH) ?
2009/3/13 Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr: Hello Everything is in the subject :-) Thanks for any infos Purpose is migration of a mailhub We have some weird problems with sata disks, sas works just great. (ServeRAID 8k) 3Gbps not working, we get lot of aac cmd timeouts. IBM support cooked new firmwares, no help, raid bios is now loading 3-4 minutes, finaly they told to switch to 1.5Gbps. Works better, but anyway, we have replaced 2 disks in last 6 months and now one is waiting for replacement because of: aacd0: hard error cmd=write fsbn 455142322 btw, linux is freezing on ours x3650+sata (even their supported red hat or whatever it was) :) IBM support have also replaced IBM sata disks to non-IBM sata disks for 15 x3550 boxes, works fine. Before sata, we have only sas disks, no problems, ever. -- regards, Artis Caune . CCNA | BSDA | ' didii FreeBSD ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Bizarre behaviour of Linux binary under 7.1
On 14 Mar 2009 12:29:39 + Christopher Key wrote: After appropriate use of truss invoking B directly, I found that the source of problems was B being unable to create its output file /tmp/...: linux_open(/tmp/1234.tmp,0x42,0600)ERR#13 'Permission denied' which is odd. /tmp has suitable permissions: #ls -al /tmp drwxrwxrwt 12 root wheel 720 14 Mar 11:25 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root wheel 512 13 Mar 10:32 .. ... and I can quite happily create a identically named file in /tmp myself: #echo test /tmp/1234.tmp #cat /tmp/1234.tmp test #rm /tmp/1234.tmp Please, compare /compat/linux/ directory structures between an old and new installation. It seems to me that you have /compat/linux/tmp directory at the new one. It shouldn't exist. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Logcheck errors after cvsup
On Saturday 14 March 2009 14:35:36 Patrick Lamaizière wrote: Le Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:48:58 +0100, Marco Beishuizen mb...@xs4all.nl: I cvsupped my portstree yesterday and updated my system with portupgrade -a. All went well except for logcheck. Since the cvsup I don't receive the normal hourly mail with the results of the checking in my mailbox but the following (the subject of the mail is: Cron logch...@yokozuna if [ -x /usr/local/sbin/logcheck ]; then nice -n10 /usr/local/sbin/logcheck; fi): /usr/local/sbin/logcheck: command substitution: line 49: syntax error near unexpected token `)' I guess it is related to the recent bash upgrade. Check the ports@ mailing list, there are some topics about bash4. Looks like it is broken. Regards. Yes, bash seems to be the problem. I deinstalled bash 4 and reinstalled 3. Logcheck now works again. I guess I will follow the bash developments. Thanks for the help. -- KANSAS: Where the men are men and so are the women! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best archiver? (for music)
I use ape :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Unlimited storage?
Dear Mailing List, What would this look like for FreeBSD? --- Many servers with local HDs One (1) storage for all servers using local HDs on all servers (RAID) File system that allows growth (also negative growth) --- What components and software would be required? /R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Portinstall insists on rebuilding openldap client
I was trying to install samba and it keeps wanting to build the openldap client package that I already have installed. I really don't want to mess with that as it is also supporting other packages for the mail system. Why would it be wanting to build a package that is already installed? mx1# ls /var/db/pkg | grep ldap openldap-sasl-client-2.3.43 openldap-sasl-server-2.3.43 p5-perl-ldap-0.34 php5-ldap-5.2.5_1 phpldapadmin-1.1.0.5_1,1 mx1# portinstall samba --- Found 3 ports matching 'samba': net/samba3 net/samba32 net/samba33 Install 'net/samba3'? [yes] no Install 'net/samba32'? [yes] no Install 'net/samba33'? [yes] [Gathering depends for net/samba33 done] --- Installing 'openldap-sasl-client-2.3.43' from a port (net/openldap23-client) --- Building '/usr/ports/net/openldap23-client' === Cleaning for openldap-sasl-client-2.3.43 === Vulnerability check disabled, database not found === Extracting for openldap-sasl-client-2.3.43 = MD5 Checksum OK for openldap-2.3.43.tgz. = SHA256 Checksum OK for openldap-2.3.43.tgz -- Robert see what I'm up to on my Live Journal tech blog at -- http://saintcolumbus.livejournal.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: the pause that removes
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:02:48 -0400 Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote: I've never noticed that large directory trees were instantaneous to remove on any filesystem. that's true too. even fbsd isn't really quick on large trees, but on large files, i get to use my prompt much faster than i do with say debian. -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Bizarre behaviour of Linux binary under 7.1
On Mar 14 2009, Boris Samorodov wrote: Please, compare /compat/linux/ directory structures between an old and new installation. It seems to me that you have /compat/linux/tmp directory at the new one. It shouldn't exist. WBR Thanks Boris, On the new installation, I do have a /compat/linux/tmp, which I didn't on the previous installation, and the removal of which fixed the problem. Do you have any idea what might have caused its creation? The other difference between the two installation is that previously /compat was symlinked to /usr/compat, whereas on the new system, the contents of /compat is all on my root partition. I guess that this is probably not desirable and should be fixed. The previous installation was done entirely with sysinstall, including the partitioning, but this time I wanted to install straight into a gpt'd mirrored drive. I booted into mfsbsd, created partitions and mounted the structure under /mnt, then ran sysinstall (and chose /mnt as the install target). Perhaps I should have set up various symlinks whilst I was at it. Are there likely to be any other similar problems? Kind Regards, Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: the pause that removes
On Thu 2009-03-12 22:37:13 UTC-0700, prad (p...@towardsfreedom.com) wrote: one of the neat things i've found about freebsd vs linux is the 'instantaneous' rm. when you remove a large file or a substantial directory, freebsd does it right away ard you get your prompt back, while with every linux i've tried, you wait and wait and wait. i presume freebsd just takes the pointer to the file out so it can be overwritten, while may be the linuxes fill stuff with zeros or something like that?? is this instantaneity a result of the ufs file system vs say ext3 or reiser? I've been under the impression that this (fast deletes) had something to do with the soft updates feature of UFS. Although, the Wikipedia page doesn't talk about deleting files in particular, so I could be completely wrong about that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_updates ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: the pause that removes
I've been under the impression that this (fast deletes) had something indeed. FreeBSD actually postpones free space bitmap update. after deleting many gigs of files you'll see disk working after a while. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: the pause that removes
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:34:39 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: indeed. FreeBSD actually postpones free space bitmap update. after deleting many gigs of files you'll see disk working after a while. excellent! so is this a freebsd thing or a ufs filesystem thing? -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: the pause that removes
indeed. FreeBSD actually postpones free space bitmap update. after deleting many gigs of files you'll see disk working after a while. excellent! so is this a freebsd thing or a ufs filesystem thing? for sure FreeBSD implementation of UFS ;) i'm not sure how about UFS on other OS. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Bizarre behaviour of Linux binary under 7.1
On 14 Mar 2009 18:09:03 + Christopher Key wrote: On Mar 14 2009, Boris Samorodov wrote: Please, compare /compat/linux/ directory structures between an old and new installation. It seems to me that you have /compat/linux/tmp directory at the new one. It shouldn't exist. Thanks Boris, On the new installation, I do have a /compat/linux/tmp, which I didn't on the previous installation, and the removal of which fixed the problem. OK, glad to hear it. Do you have any idea what might have caused its creation? None that I'm aware of. The other difference between the two installation is that previously /compat was symlinked to /usr/compat, whereas on the new system, the contents of /compat is all on my root partition. I guess that this is probably not desirable and should be fixed. Yes. The previous installation was done entirely with sysinstall, including the partitioning, but this time I wanted to install straight into a gpt'd mirrored drive. I booted into mfsbsd, created partitions and mounted the structure under /mnt, then ran sysinstall (and chose /mnt as the install target). Perhaps I should have set up various symlinks whilst I was at it. Are there likely to be any other similar problems? As for me so far I've never used gpt and always use sysinstall. Hence no help from me here... WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: issues in XFCE 4.6
As i said the packages worked for me. Blow away the xfce and xorg ports and do the xorg mega package and the xfce mega package. if that fails then bkup your user data and install a clean virgin version of 7.1 and the xorg and xfce packages. It looks like this was a step in the WRONG direction. Having removed XORG, it won't install. It appears that xorg requires xorg-drivers (understandable), and xorg-drivers requires xf86-video-via (OK), and xf86-video-via requires a PCI Video Card to be installed. make clean install -k in x11-drivers/xorg-drivers will make xorg-drivers install, but make clean install -k in x11/xorg won't install because xf86-video-via is ignored. Anyone have another suggestion? At this point, I need to get X installed so I can even consider a window manager. Keith S. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: issues in XFCE 4.6
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:43:53 -0600 (MDT), Keith Seyffarth w...@weif.net wrote: Anyone have another suggestion? At this point, I need to get X installed so I can even consider a window manager. What about using pkg_add for X and the other ports it depends on? Check if the binary packages are new enough because they may be dated some time behind the freshly updated ports tree. Usually, pkg_add -r will install all dependencies. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: issues in XFCE 4.6
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 03:43:53PM -0600, Keith Seyffarth wrote: As i said the packages worked for me. Blow away the xfce and xorg ports and do the xorg mega package and the xfce mega package. if that fails then bkup your user data and install a clean virgin version of 7.1 and the xorg and xfce packages. It looks like this was a step in the WRONG direction. Having removed XORG, it won't install. It appears that xorg requires xorg-drivers (understandable), and xorg-drivers requires xf86-video-via (OK), and xf86-video-via requires a PCI Video Card to be installed. xorg-drivers requires the drivers it has been configured to depend on, which does not necessarily include xf86-video-via. Go to the xorg-drivers port and do a 'make config' to change which drivers it will depend on. make clean install -k in x11-drivers/xorg-drivers will make xorg-drivers install, but make clean install -k in x11/xorg won't install because xf86-video-via is ignored. Anyone have another suggestion? At this point, I need to get X installed so I can even consider a window manager. Keith S. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.se ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: issues in XFCE 4.6
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Keith Seyffarth wrote: As i said the packages worked for me. Blow away the xfce and xorg ports and do the xorg mega package and the xfce mega package. if that fails then bkup your user data and install a clean virgin version of 7.1 and the xorg and xfce packages. It looks like this was a step in the WRONG direction. Having removed XORG, it won't install. It appears that xorg requires xorg-drivers (understandable), and xorg-drivers requires xf86-video-via (OK), and xf86-video-via requires a PCI Video Card to be installed. make clean install -k in x11-drivers/xorg-drivers will make xorg-drivers install, but make clean install -k in x11/xorg won't install because xf86-video-via is ignored. That -k option to make is unnecessary and possibly bad. Stop using it for now. cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg make clean make config-recursive (choose configuration for everything) make install Anyone have another suggestion? At this point, I need to get X installed so I can even consider a window manager. Instead of waiting for the ports to build, install the package: pkg_add -r xorg -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bsd vs gpl
2009/3/11 David Kelly dke...@hiwaay.net: On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 01:20:18AM -0700, prad wrote: i've not paid much attention to licensing philosophy i the past, because for me it was always windoze vs the goodguys. however, recently i've become aware of there being a chasm within the goodguys in that the bsd attitude is do what you want as long as you give credit to the creator, whereas the gpl folks say do what you want as long as you keep it free. is this a fair summation? No, too simple. The source code is always free under BSD, contrary to what GPL proponents claim. Just that under BSD you are free to keep ownership of your own work. To decide how *you* wish to distribute. You may limit the redistribution of your work which includes BSD components. GPL people seem to forget the base BSD code is still free, its just that they want your enhancements too. Its a lesson in how to lie the way they claim this is somehow free and/or freedom. GPL states that if you make changes those changes must be made available under the same terms as the original source code. Yet somehow darlings of the GPL world such as Red Hat, MySQL, and others, skirt around that onerous requirement. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Sorry, what do Red Hat et al do to 'skirt' around the requirements of the GPL? They are some of the biggest supporters of free software. They abide by the letter AND the spirit of the GPL. They are a model free software business; charging for support etc is the most legitimate way of making money from software. Chris -- R $h ! $- ! $+ $@ $2 @ $1 .UUCP. (sendmail.cf) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bsd vs gpl
2009/3/11 David Kelly dke...@hiwaay.net: On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 01:20:18AM -0700, prad wrote: i've not paid much attention to licensing philosophy i the past, because for me it was always windoze vs the goodguys. however, recently i've become aware of there being a chasm within the goodguys in that the bsd attitude is do what you want as long as you give credit to the creator, whereas the gpl folks say do what you want as long as you keep it free. is this a fair summation? No, too simple. The source code is always free under BSD, contrary to what GPL proponents claim. Just that under BSD you are free to keep ownership of your own work. To decide how *you* wish to distribute. You may limit the redistribution of your work which includes BSD components. GPL people seem to forget the base BSD code is still free, its just that they want your enhancements too. Its a lesson in how to lie the way they claim this is somehow free and/or freedom. GPL states that if you make changes those changes must be made available under the same terms as the original source code. Yet somehow darlings of the GPL world such as Red Hat, MySQL, and others, skirt around that onerous requirement. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Sorry, what do Red Hat et al do to 'skirt' around the requirements of the GPL? They are some of the biggest supporters of free software. They abide by the letter AND the spirit of the GPL. They are a model free software business; charging for support etc is the most legitimate way of making money from software. Chris -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
The FreeBSD Diary: 2009-03-14
The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists and/or The FreeBSD Diary http://www.freebsddiary.org/. RECENT ARTICLES: 2-Dec : Obscuring smtp auth headers If you consider your smtp-auth location to be private, this is what you want. http://freebsddiary.org/smtp-headers-rewrite-auth.php?2 29-Nov : OpenVPN - creating a routed VPN If you have multiple VPN clients, this is a practical solution. http://freebsddiary.org/openvpn-routed.php?2 27-Nov : Creating your own Certificate Authority How to create a CA and generate your own SSL certificates http://freebsddiary.org/openvpn-easy-rsa.php?2 27-Nov : OpenVPN - getting it running Using OpenVPN to create a secure pathway between home and office http://freebsddiary.org/openvpn.php?2 5-Oct : Removing dead mailing lists from Mailman Mailing lists can outlive their usefulness http://freebsddiary.org/mailman-removing-dead-lists.php?2 30-Aug : gmirror - recovering from a failed HDD an HDD failed. gmirror to the rescue. http://freebsddiary.org/gmirror-failure.php?2 6-Jul : ezjail - A jail administration framework This makes jails easier http://freebsddiary.org/ezjail.php?2 24-Jun : Adding gmirror to an existing installation Adding RAID-1 to an existing FreeBSD 7 installation http://freebsddiary.org/gmirror.php?2 20-Mar : ThinkPad x61s Unpacking the box, installing PC-BSD http://freebsddiary.org/thinkpad-x61s.php?2 17-Mar : Using two monitors with X.org The GeForce 8600 GT with two monitors http://freebsddiary.org/xorg-two-screens.php?2 -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Linux Java Update?
I'm setting up a new i386 computer, and I always include a complete Linux browser (usually Opera), including plugins. I went to the linux-sun-jre16 port, and I find a disagreement on the jre version number requested in the port (u3) versus what Sun has on their web site as their latest (u12). This is odd, since the native version runs u7. Why is this? Update 3 is a couple of years old, which is fine I guess, but is there a reason that update 12 is not used? Frank ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
who broke snd_hda?
I have no sound anymore, from anything, no matter what device I point an application at. Today I have no sound with a new world/kernel: from dmesg hdac0: HDA Codec #0: Realtek ALC880 pcm0: HDA Realtek ALC880 PCM #0 Digital at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm1: HDA Realtek ALC880 PCM #1 Analog at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm2: HDA Realtek ALC880 PCM #2 Analog at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm3: HDA Realtek ALC880 PCM #3 Analog at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386) Installed devices: pcm0: HDA Realtek ALC880 PCM #0 Digital at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 [MPSAFE] pcm1: HDA Realtek ALC880 PCM #1 Analog at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 [MPSAFE] pcm2: HDA Realtek ALC880 PCM #2 Analog at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 [MPSAFE] pcm3: HDA Realtek ALC880 PCM #3 Analog at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 [MPSAFE] mixer: Mixer speaker is currently set to 45:45 Mixer line is currently set to 75:75 Mixer mic is currently set to 0:0 Mixer mix is currently set to 30:30 Mixer monitor is currently set to 35:35 Last kernel from mid Jan.09 pcm0: HDA Codec: Realtek ALC880 pcm0: HDA Driver Revision: 20080420_0052 -- Over the years I've come to regard you as people I've met. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: who broke snd_hda? SOLVED
hw.snd.default_unit=1 -- This has fixed everything, from the looks of it. Not 100% sure what =1 means, but I have sound now. No line in/rec/CD volume controls, but working on that. /back to man pages mixer Mixer vol is currently set to 75:75 Mixer pcm is currently set to 75:75 Mixer mix is currently set to 0:0 Recording source: Still have to fix this. I have no sound anymore, from anything, no matter what device I point an application at. Today I have no sound with a new world/kernel: from dmesg hdac0: HDA Codec #0: Realtek ALC880 pcm0: HDA Realtek ALC880 PCM #0 Digital at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm1: HDA Realtek ALC880 PCM #1 Analog at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm2: HDA Realtek ALC880 PCM #2 Analog at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm3: HDA Realtek ALC880 PCM #3 Analog at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386) Installed devices: pcm0: HDA Realtek ALC880 PCM #0 Digital at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 [MPSAFE] pcm1: HDA Realtek ALC880 PCM #1 Analog at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 [MPSAFE] pcm2: HDA Realtek ALC880 PCM #2 Analog at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 [MPSAFE] pcm3: HDA Realtek ALC880 PCM #3 Analog at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 [MPSAFE] mixer: Mixer speaker is currently set to 45:45 Mixer line is currently set to 75:75 Mixer mic is currently set to 0:0 Mixer mix is currently set to 30:30 Mixer monitor is currently set to 35:35 Last kernel from mid Jan.09 pcm0: HDA Codec: Realtek ALC880 pcm0: HDA Driver Revision: 20080420_0052 -- Over the years I've come to regard you as people I've met. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best archiver? (for music)
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 08:26:02AM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 08:05:59PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: lame -h -V 3 - nobody could tell the difference, it gives 200kbps bitrate lame -h -b 192 - as above lame -h -b 128 - they were able to tell difference, but not on all music/songs lame -h -b 96 - i was able to tell the difference on every song, but it wasn't really huge deal. my hearing is exceptionally good and while call myself an audiophile, having all my tunes right here at fingertips is a major win. having said that, can you point me to a basic tutorial on lame? man lame GADGOOKS! that's no tutorial, that's *torture*. After i finally got caught up on miised sleep, a few hours ago I read-thru and listened-to (kttsd) the man lame. Then surfed around; then came back to the man page and read the several examples. So: the idea is that lame [just] converts WAV files to mp3. There is a gnome utility, sound-juicer than turns my CD's from wave to ogg-vorbis. I'm happy with ogg but would prefer flac ... but ogg is fine. mp4 is a dontknow. What I've got is good enough for now. i've got 1581620 blocks of mp3 @ 128kbit. lectures. when i tried to cut the quality even by a bit it was evident immediately. rar compresses these file to 1482404 blocks very very slowly. it probably makes sense to just burn the mp3 files to a dvd and be safe. There is a special codec for speech. You'll find it the audio/speex port. From the pkg-descr: The Speex is a patent-free, Open Source/Free Software voice codec. Unlike other codecs like MP3 and Ogg Vorbis, Speex is designed to compress voice at bitrates in the 2-45 kbps range. Possible applications include VoIP, Internet audio streaming, archiving of speech data (e.g. voice mail), and audio books. In some sense, it is meant to be complementary to the Ogg Vorbis codec. This might perform better at compressing lectures. Sounds v promising, thanks. Given the availability of compression these days, it makes me wonder why telephone conversations still sound so 'tinny'. But then, that's another matter. gary Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best archiver? (for music)
listened-to (kttsd) the man lame. Then surfed around; then came back to the man page and read the several examples. So: the idea is that lame [just] converts WAV files to mp3. There is a as every good unix tool - it does exactly what is supposed to do. nobody forbids you to make your script that do what you want with lame and say cdda2wav Given the availability of compression these days, it makes me wonder why telephone conversations still sound so 'tinny'. But then, that's another matter. with right configured speex codec phone talks sounds actually better than uncompressed :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
GELI full disk, booting from thumb drive - can't get to /usr?
I've been trying to set up a system (7.0 Release) with full-disk encryption, using GELI, and booting from a thumb drive. When booting, it gets as far as asking me for the passphrases of the various encrypted disks; when I give them, GELI indicates that it successfully attached to each, but after I've entered the last of them, the system puts out a bunch of messages (most of which quickly scroll off my screen) looking like it's trying to continue booting, but having problems. Those that are left when it finally stops scrolling seem to indicate that it can't get to /usr. Here is what remains on my screen when it stops scrolling: eval: /usr/sbin/sendmail: not found /etc/rc: WARNING: run_rc_command: cannot run /usr/sbin/cron Local package initialization: dirname: not found Starting background file system checks in 60 seconds. logger: not found After that is a blank line, then a line with the date and time, and then a bunch of lines like the following: Mar 14 22:39:06 init: can't exec getty '/usr/libexec/getty' for port /dev/ttyv4: No such file or directory The only difference between the getty lines is the ttyv* they show. Thereafter, once every thirty seconds, another eight copies of the getty line show. This happens indefinitely thereafter (I let it go for an hour or so). If I start up Fixit from a LiveFS CD, geli attach and mount what should be /usr as something like /myusr, I can see that all of the things I expect to be there really are there (including, for example, libexec/getty). Does anyone have any idea why this would be happening, or any idea on how to troubleshoot it? The fact that I can't get to getty makes it... difficult. Here is my fstab, which is the same in /boot/etc of my thumb drive and /boot/etc of the thing on the hard drive that should get mounted as root (again, I can confirm this by mounting it as /myslash via a LiveFS CD): /dev/ad10.elia / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ad10.elib noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/ad10.elid /varufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad10.elie /tmpufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad10.elif /usrufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad11.elib noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/ad11.elif /disk2 ufs rw 2 0 /dev/ad13.elib noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/ad13.elif /disk3 ufs rw 2 2 /dev/acd0/cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 Thanks in advance for any help. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best archiver? (for music)
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 08:36:25AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: There is a special codec for speech. You'll find it the audio/speex port. From the pkg-descr: actually i use it with asterisk - at about 15kbps (VBR) there are audible differences between this and standard 64kbps a-law - but the differences are POSITIVE - speech sounds clearer! There's something I've been wanting to ask and a web search hasn't told me very much. What is the mp4? Is it == to aac or aacPlus? Some online stations carry the acc format and it seems better than mp3. I can't really tell. anybody? gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GELI full disk, booting from thumb drive - can't get to /usr?
Whoops - two mistakes in my original email: First, the following fstab line is a typo (in my original email, not in my actual fstab): /dev/ad11.elif /disk2 ufs rw 2 0 It actually ends in a 2, not a 0. Second, when I typed the following: Here is my fstab, which is the same in /boot/etc of my thumb drive and /boot/etc of the thing on the hard drive that should get mounted as root The copies of fstab are actually in /etc, not /boot/etc. This is true for both the thumb drive and the hard drive. I've been trying to set up a system (7.0 Release) with full-disk encryption, using GELI, and booting from a thumb drive. When booting, it gets as far as asking me for the passphrases of the various encrypted disks; when I give them, GELI indicates that it successfully attached to each, but after I've entered the last of them, the system puts out a bunch of messages (most of which quickly scroll off my screen) looking like it's trying to continue booting, but having problems. Those that are left when it finally stops scrolling seem to indicate that it can't get to /usr. Here is what remains on my screen when it stops scrolling: eval: /usr/sbin/sendmail: not found /etc/rc: WARNING: run_rc_command: cannot run /usr/sbin/cron Local package initialization: dirname: not found Starting background file system checks in 60 seconds. logger: not found After that is a blank line, then a line with the date and time, and then a bunch of lines like the following: Mar 14 22:39:06 init: can't exec getty '/usr/libexec/getty' for port /dev/ttyv4: No such file or directory The only difference between the getty lines is the ttyv* they show. Thereafter, once every thirty seconds, another eight copies of the getty line show. This happens indefinitely thereafter (I let it go for an hour or so). If I start up Fixit from a LiveFS CD, geli attach and mount what should be /usr as something like /myusr, I can see that all of the things I expect to be there really are there (including, for example, libexec/getty). Does anyone have any idea why this would be happening, or any idea on how to troubleshoot it? The fact that I can't get to getty makes it... difficult. Here is my fstab, which is the same in /boot/etc of my thumb drive and /boot/etc of the thing on the hard drive that should get mounted as root (again, I can confirm this by mounting it as /myslash via a LiveFS CD): /dev/ad10.elia / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ad10.elib noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/ad10.elid /varufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad10.elie /tmpufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad10.elif /usrufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad11.elib noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/ad11.elif /disk2 ufs rw 2 0 /dev/ad13.elib noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/ad13.elif /disk3 ufs rw 2 2 /dev/acd0/cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 Thanks in advance for any help. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: best archiver? (for music)
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 05:18:06AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: listened-to (kttsd) the man lame. Then surfed around; then came back to the man page and read the several examples. So: the idea is that lame [just] converts WAV files to mp3. There is a as every good unix tool - it does exactly what is supposed to do. nobody forbids you to make your script that do what you want with lame and say cdda2wav Given the availability of compression these days, it makes me wonder why telephone conversations still sound so 'tinny'. But then, that's another matter. with right configured speex codec phone talks sounds actually better than uncompressed :) That's the idea: take telephone/voice @ what? 4kbps? -- it was something very narrow bandwidth so the phone companies could squueze more speech into each wire. Anyway, given 4k or whatever bits/sec, built in a single chip into each new phone to compress and uncompress. And up the quality of the speaker! -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
