Re: Strange kernel log message

2007-11-27 Thread Ceri Davies
On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 07:58:41PM +, Bruce Cran wrote:
> Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>> On 2007-11-26 09:58, Ceri Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>   
>>> So I have this in my security run output:
>>> kernel log messages:
>>> +++ /tmp/security.hLYJI0kF  Sun Nov 25 03:01:02 2007
>>> +<<<<222>2>>>NNNMNMMIII M  III SIISAS SAAA  3 303,020,0 ,,  EE 
>>> IEIIESSSAIAA S A f ff
>>> +
>>> +
>>> +f
>>> 
>>> WTF now?
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure if that's a real kernel message that got garbled or whether
>>> I should be worried about naughtiness.
>>> 
>> 
>> It looks like multiple messages overlapping each other.  Removing 3
>> characters every 4 bytes in the output produces things which seem
>> vaguely recognizable:
>> 
>> <22NNI II A ,,,EISA  fff
>> <<2>NMI  SS 300  ISAAfff
>> 
>> There's a sysctl option which you can tweak to make this less likely to
>> happen, but I am not sure about its name.  Our console gurus can help
>> you track it down and tune its value :)
> 
> The kernel option I've seen mentioned before to at least make this less 
> common is:
> 
> options PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=128# Prevent printf output being interspersed.

Aha, thanks guys.

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Strange kernel log message

2007-11-26 Thread Ceri Davies
So I have this in my security run output:

kernel log messages:
+++ /tmp/security.hLYJI0kF  Sun Nov 25 03:01:02 2007
+222>2>>>NNNMNMMIII M  III SIISAS SAAA  3 303,020,0 ,,  EE IEIIESSSAIAA S A 
f ff
+
+
+f

WTF now?

I'm not sure if that's a real kernel message that got garbled or whether
I should be worried about naughtiness.

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Re: man sysinstall

2007-02-01 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 03:49:39PM +1100, Antony Mawer wrote:
> On 31/01/2007 3:05 PM, Jared Barneck wrote:
> ...
> >I found the answer for how to reboot in the code.  To
> >reboot add the following to the end of the
> >install.cfg:
> >
> >shutdown
> >
> >I found it in this source file:
> >/usr/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/dispatch.c
> >
> >This source file has a list of a lot of the functions
> >that can be called in the install.cfg. Even though the
> >function is called "shutdown" it is a reboot not a
> >shutdown, which is perfect because I wanted it to
> >reboot.
> 
> I have a local patch that we use on our installation process that adds a 
> couple of new commands:
> 
> poweroff - shutdown and power off the machine (useful for doing
> installation, then shut down for shipping)
> poweroffNoRC - as above, but don't attempt to write rc.conf
> shutdownNoRC - like regular "shutdown" (reboot), but no rc.conf
> 
> The latter two options are handy if you write your own scripts that 
> generate rc.conf, as normally sysinstall tries to write rc.conf itself 
> on shutdown, which clobbers any existing file your scripts may create.
> 
> If anyone is interested and/or these are likely candidates for inclusion 
> then I can submit a PR to have someone check these in. I also have a man 
> page update that documents the above functions.

Antony, please do.

Thanks,

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Re: man sysinstall

2007-02-01 Thread Ceri Davies
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 08:05:39PM -0800, Jared Barneck wrote:

> I found the answer for how to reboot in the code.  To
> reboot add the following to the end of the
> install.cfg:
> 
> shutdown
> 
> I found it in this source file:
> /usr/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/dispatch.c
> 
> This source file has a list of a lot of the functions
> that can be called in the install.cfg. Even though the
> function is called "shutdown" it is a reboot not a
> shutdown, which is perfect because I wanted it to
> reboot.
> 
> Also, I found that a lot of variables are in this
> file:
> /usr/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/sysinstall.h
> 
> I will try write a few changes to the man page, and
> send it to you with a diff file and get you my working
> install.cfg in my next email.

Thank you Jared, I'll look forward to integrating it.

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Re: man sysinstall

2007-01-26 Thread Ceri Davies
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 02:54:47PM +, Ceri Davies wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 11:05:13PM -0800, BSD Certification Team wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > The man page for sysinstall is pretty out of date.  I
> > am trying to PXE boot to an unattended install.
> > 
> > I figured out that I needed to add dists=base kernels
> > GENERIC even though kernels and GENERIC are not in the
> > list in the man page.
> > 
> > Is there anyone in charge of updating this
> > information?  I have never submitted an update.
> 
> I guess that's me.  Could you please raise a PR and send me the number?

Actually, could you also (or just) send me your working install.cfg; I'm
not in a position to text PXE at the moment and it will help me
doublecheck that I'm doing it right.

Thanks,

Ceri
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Re: man sysinstall

2007-01-26 Thread Ceri Davies
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 07:28:39PM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:54:47 +
> Ceri Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 11:05:13PM -0800, BSD Certification Team wrote:
> > > Hello all,
> > > 
> > > The man page for sysinstall is pretty out of date.  I
> > > am trying to PXE boot to an unattended install.
> > > 
> > > I figured out that I needed to add dists=base kernels
> > > GENERIC even though kernels and GENERIC are not in the
> > > list in the man page.
> > > 
> > > Is there anyone in charge of updating this
> > > information?  I have never submitted an update.
> > 
> > I guess that's me.  Could you please raise a PR and send me the number?
> 
> I tried with almost every version of 5.X to get an unattended
> install working.  Never worked.  It seems as if sysinstall
> was looking only for a USB floppy drive.  Originally I started
> looking over the code to send in a PR and perhaps a patch,
> but became busy with other things.

I can't speak for 5.x because I didn't really run it, but this worked
for 6.x a year ago: http://typo.submonkey.net/articles/2006/02/12/

The OP's note about adding the kernels line is definitely needed and I'll
fix that (though I would really love a PR for it), but for anything
else, you have to send hardware (a laptop or Soekris, I'm not fussy!) :)

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Re: man sysinstall

2007-01-25 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 11:05:13PM -0800, BSD Certification Team wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> The man page for sysinstall is pretty out of date.  I
> am trying to PXE boot to an unattended install.
> 
> I figured out that I needed to add dists=base kernels
> GENERIC even though kernels and GENERIC are not in the
> list in the man page.
> 
> Is there anyone in charge of updating this
> information?  I have never submitted an update.

I guess that's me.  Could you please raise a PR and send me the number?

Ceri
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Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-19 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 11:32:38AM +1100, Murray Taylor wrote:

> Exactly! And not only my .sig which I do have control over whether 
> I add it or not, and also the [EMAIL PROTECTED] stupid corporate disclaimer 
> also
> (over which I have no control) sigh

Though you could presumably add an empty .sig which would prevent others
from having to delete the rubbish every time they wanted to reply to you :)

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Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-19 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 09:42:54AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

> I think the biggest problem with Microsoft MUAs is not where they
> position the cursor, but the difficulty they cause in editing the
> text.  My editor also positions the cursor at the very top when I
> reply to a message.  But it also makes it possible to tidy things up.

To be fair to Microsoft (or perhaps this makes it even worse), their Mac
development team clearly understand this, as Entourage (the Mac
equivalent of Outlook) doesn't do any of the tens of stupid things that
Outlook does.

> "Top posting" is only one issue.  Others of great importance are
> trimming your posts, not breaking the lines into tiny fragments, and
> not writing one-line paragraphs.  Your .sig is a good example of
> things that people should remove from replies.

When they are correctly formatted (line-feed,hyphen,hyphen,space), good
MUAs can do this automatically.

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Re: What is this mean by this term

2007-01-19 Thread Ceri Davies
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 04:31:41PM +1100, Murray Taylor wrote:

> Unfortunately all Micro$lop 'standard' email clients and a few others
> put the cursor at the top of the email,

Actually, Entourage does not.

While we're on the subject of etiquette, those insist on having this
much crap at the bottom of their mails, might like to include a sig
delimiter:

> ---
> The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive
> use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential
> and/or privileged material. Any review, re-transmission,
> dissemination or other use of it, or the taking of any action
> in reliance upon this information by persons and/or entities
> other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you
> received this in error, please inform the sender and/or
> addressee immediately and delete the material. 
> 
> E-mails may not be secure, may contain computer viruses and
> may be corrupted in transmission. Please carefully check this
> e-mail (and any attachment) accordingly. No warranties are
> given and no liability is accepted for any loss or damage
> caused by such matters.
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Re: ssh public key authentification

2007-01-19 Thread Ceri Davies
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 05:00:56PM -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote:
> On Thursday 18 January 2007 16:44, Christian Baer wrote:
> 
> > The problem was not the authorized_keys file itself, it was my home
> > directory.
> 
> I don't think so.  More likely, it was the .ssh directory itself.

Why not?  Group write is plenty enough for someone else to replace the
.ssh directory with another one, so sshd checks for that.

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Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?

2007-01-12 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 07:40:22AM -0800, Josef Grosch wrote:

> While I do agree that FreeBSD does need work, the big pebble in my shoe
> right now is a journaling file system (try doing a fsck on a 1TB file
> system)

If you want journalling file system then the thing to do is to check out
-current, try out the journalling file system that it's had for the last
couple of months and send bug reports when it misbehaves.

Failing that it will eventually find its way into -stable when we assume
that the lack of bug reports means that it works ok for people, whereupon
you can all come here and bitch about how shit it is.

Your call, people.

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Re: want to unsubscribe from cvs:commit

2007-01-06 Thread Ceri Davies
On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 11:40:39AM +0530, prashant chavan wrote:
> hi
> 
> I want to unsubscribe from cvs:commit . plz let me know how to do it.

Follow the instructions at the bottom of every message you receive.

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Re: Sharing ports tree, possible?

2006-12-31 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 02:20:58PM -0800, Simon Gao wrote:
> Is it possible to share ports tree directory? If so, what's the procedure?

As Bill said, you need to set WRKDIRPREFIX in /etc/make.conf; I
generally use /var/tmp/port-builds.  I also have a writeable share that
consists of the port distfiles which is mounted at /usr/ports/distfiles
by clients (well, it isn't really, but this will do for the purposes of
explanation).

I also have the following symlinks in /usr/ports:

-rw-r--r-- 1 root  wheel  10508970 Dec 30 13:22 INDEX
-rw-r--r-- 1 root  wheel   9714237 Dec 30 13:22 INDEX-5
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root  wheel18 Jul 18 22:22 INDEX-5.db -> 
/var/db/INDEX-5.db
-rw-r--r-- 1 root  wheel   9715000 Dec 30 13:23 INDEX-6
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root  wheel18 Jul 18 22:22 INDEX-6.db -> 
/var/db/INDEX-6.db
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root  wheel 7 Jul 18 22:20 INDEX-7 -> INDEX-6
-rw-r--r-- 1 root  wheel  23674880 Nov  5 13:22 INDEX-7.db
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root  wheel16 Jul 18 22:23 INDEX.db -> /var/db/INDEX.db

I'm not really sure what they're for; they're definitely there because
clients running sysutils/portupgrade expect to be able to create them,
but there may also have been some endian issues that I ran into when
sharing them across different architectures.  I honestly can't remember.

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Re: Ports: Starting over from scratch?

2006-12-04 Thread Ceri Davies
On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 01:05:08PM -0600, Drew wrote:
> I'm running into some problems on a desktop box that I've not seen anywhere
> else with upgrading multiple ports. The problem is so extensive, and a
> solution not being forthcoming, I'm very tempted to make deinstall from
> /usr/ports and then pkg_deinstall -a, and start over again. Does anyone have
> any advice or input on a procedure like this?

I did something similar recently when I decided to remove all traces of
kde and gnome from my desktop in favour of wmii.  Basically, I did the
following.

  o List all ports on the system
  pkg_info -E \* > /tmp/installed_ports

  o Edit the list, and delete every line except that which I know I want
cp /tmp/installed_ports /tmp/required_ports
vi /tmp/required_ports

  o Remove everything left in the file, letting the dependencies take
 care of keeping everything that I actually need
pkg_delete `cat /tmp/required_ports`

  o Have pkgdb fix up any problems (there weren't any)
pkgdb -Ff

In my case though, I didn't want the ports that were being removed.  It
sounds llike you do, in which case you could also save the origins of
the ports that you have installed and install them again afterwards.

To save the origins of all of your installed ports:
   pkg_info -oa | grep / > /tmp/port_origins

Then you can just throw them all back in with portinstall or similar.

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Re: cvs

2006-10-23 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 06:12:54PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> >You're wrong.  It's the other way around:
> >
> >We are *forced* to use CVSup, because CVS is centralized, without
> >any other good way to mirror changesets to a distributed network of
> >mirrors, users and developer workspaces.
> >
> >On the other hand, SVN is centralized too :-)
> 
> What I wanted to say is that FreeBSD will remain for the time being, on 
> cvs - is that correct?

Until we're happy with another tool and have reasons that make moving
worth the effort, we'll stay with CVS.

This is /not/ because of the CVSup infrastructue though, which is
essentially good at throwing arbitrary filesets around and doesn't tie
us to CVS.

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Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?

2006-10-17 Thread Ceri Davies
On 15/10/06 23:26, "William Tracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Okay.
> 
> I've installed FreeBSD on my desktop. I got KDE working, and Amor is
> running so I have a little daemon sitting on my window. I can mount my
> USB card reader and open the pictures from my digital camera in Gimp.
> I can browse the web in Firefox. I even compiled my own kernel so that
> I'm all 1337. :-)
> 
> Overall, I like FreeBSD--the kernel build process felt a lot smoother
> than Linux, the /boot and /sys file heirarchies makes more sense to me
> than /boot and /usr/src under Linux, and the /dev heirarchy seems
> sane, though it's still pretty alien to me. So far, everything I do
> under Linux I can do under FreeBSD.
> 
> FreeBSD is nice, but I haven't seen anything really *compelling* about
> it. FreeBSD might be more stable as a server, but for my desktop Linux
> has proven more than stable enough. (X crashes sometimes, but FreeBSD
> can't really fix that.) The extra file flags look intersting, but
> otherwise I haven't seen anything that I can do under FreeBSD that I
> can't with Linux.
> 
> So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD
> can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back.

It'll come.  Day by day, and slowly at first, but one day you will go back
and it will feel wrong.

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Re: FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE : rm swapfile after swapoff can't release the disk space

2006-10-08 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 01:55:36PM +, Honest Qiao wrote:
> Environment: FreeBSD www141.igogo8.com 6.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 
> 6.1-PRERELEASE #0: Fri May 12 12:12:17 CST 2006 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/iGOGO8-PAE i386 
> 
> Description: 
> Several months ago , I read the follow article, and add a 12G swapfile. 
> The article url is 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/adding-swap-space.html
>  
> 
> The swapfile is /usr/swap0 , and I have a swap mount which size is 2G. 
> top show: 
> Swap: 14G Total, 14G Free 
> 
> Today , I use swapoff /usr/swap0 to disable swapfile , and then rm 
> /usr/swap0. 
> /usr/swap0 was deleted, but its disk space can't release. 
> Now, top show: 
> Swap: 2048M Total, 2048M Free 
> 
> www141# df -hi 
> Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on 
> /dev/amrd0s1a 248M 41M 187M 18% 1609 31413 5% / 
> devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% 0 0 100% /dev 
> /dev/amrd0s1f 19G 965M 17G 5% 1737 2636085 0% /db 
> /dev/amrd0s1g 19G 12G 5.6G 69% 769803 1868019 29% /home 
> /dev/amrd0s1d 248M 43M 185M 19% 585 32437 2% /tmp 
> /dev/amrd0s1h 25G 19G 3.4G 85% 354372 3013562 11% /usr 
> /dev/amrd0s1e 248M 65M 163M 29% 6430 26592 19% /var 

How long did you wait?  softupdates could introduce a short delay in the
statistics above updating.  Failing that, you will need to remove the
device with mdconfig.  Use "geom md list" to try to identify the correct
md device, then remove it.

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Re: Downgrade from 6.2 PR to 6.1 RELEASE?

2006-09-28 Thread Ceri Davies
On 28/9/06 01:42, "Ahmad Arafat Abdullah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "FreeBSD Questions" 
>> Subject: Downgrade from 6.2 PR to 6.1 RELEASE?
>> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:46:42 -0700
>> 
>> 
>> I felt I should ask this question before taking a drastic action. I
>>   built this new production system complete with jail (which I can
>> recreate very quickly) and all was running perfectly under 6.2
>> PRERELEASE. I was planning taking a chance and going production
>> (against common wisdom of running 6.2 PRERELEASE in production).
>> Yesterday I decided to cvsup and rebuild one more time and
>> discovered  a glaring problem on this AMD64 Tyan s4882. It can't
>> reboot with the  reboot command or shutdown -r about 75% of the
>> time, it hangs between  the uptime output and where it states
>> Rebooting, then requires a  manual reset to get going again. This
>> tells me I have to fall back or  will create a nightmare for
>> production use. Presuming I can live with  certain driver issues on
>> 6.1 RELEASE P6, are there any serious  dangers or unique procedures
>> in going backward, to RELENG_6_1 from  RELENG_6 that suggest it
>> would be better to just start from scratch?  I've not fallen back
>> from CURRENT to a RELEASE, this will be my first  time.
> 
> 
> maybe u can give it a try, why not? same like my case, and it's weird..
> when i upgraded my box to 6.2-PRERELEASE, something weird happens.. i can't
> login to my KDE ( my KDE is up and running ) using my user+pass, surprisingly
> i add one more user+pass and it's can logged in!

Can you report that to [EMAIL PROTECTED] please?  We're building 6.2-BETA2
this weekend and it would be nice to fix this before 6.2-RELEASE if it's a
wider issue.

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Re: Thin Terminals

2006-09-24 Thread Ceri Davies
On 24/9/06 13:52, "Ansar Mohammed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Does it dance the Sun Ray dance, or are we back to rolling our own?
>> 
>> Ceri
> 
> 
> Huh?
> Clearly, its not as attractive as a Sun Ray. But I dunno about dancing and
> rolling..

Does it work with Sun Ray server?

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Re: Thin Terminals

2006-09-23 Thread Ceri Davies
On 23/9/06 20:05, "Ansar Mohammed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ceri Davies
>> Sent: September 23, 2006 5:53 AM
>> To: Robert Davison; Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> Subject: Re: Thin Terminals
>> 
>> On 20/9/06 13:37, "Robert Davison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I've been looking at the Sun Ray terminals and like the idea of using
>> thin
>>> clients to connect to the main server to run apps. Are they any
>> programms in
>>> thr ports which allow a similar set-up using FreeBSD. I know you can do
>> this
>>> with X but would need a tutorial to help me through it.
>>> 
>>> Anyone had a go at connecting a sun ray to FreeBSD or are the protocols
>>> totally different.
>> 
>> The Sun Ray Server software runs on Linux as well as Solaris, so I'd say
>> that there's an outside chance that it might work.  One day I'll get round
>> to buying a Sun Ray client and try it out.

> The Netier xl2000 is a much better platform. It's an amd k6 and upgradable
> to 128Mb RAM. You can get them on ebay for about 10$

Does it dance the Sun Ray dance, or are we back to rolling our own?

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Re: freebsd black-listed on dsbl...

2006-09-23 Thread Ceri Davies
On 23/9/06 11:59, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgedv.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> hey guys,
> 
> dunno whether this is the correct list, but if there's
> someone feeling responsible for that, please try to fix ;-)
> 
>> In:  MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SIZE=4342
>> Out: 521 Service unavailable; Sender address
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] blocked using list.dsbl.org

Should go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Sun X4200 FreeBSD 6.1 experience??

2006-09-23 Thread Ceri Davies
On 19/9/06 03:20, "Bachilo Dmitry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> В сообщении от Понедельник 18 сентября 2006 21:20 ke han написал(a):
>> Has anyone experienced FreeBSD 6.1 on a Sun X4200 ?  Does everything
>> work?  ILOM? RAID-1 ? 2 sets of RAID-1 ?...any feedback would help me
>> make a decision.
>> thanks, ke han
> 
> Yes, I have. FreeBSD 6.1 (both i386 and amd64 versions) runs perfect on Sun
> X4000-series servers. As well as on X2100 and on v20z and v40z. ILOM works
> independently with OS, so there is no difference. RAID-1 is hardware, ot
> software so it does not depend on OS too and works ok.

We had an X4100 on trial and the FreeBSD installer didn't recognise any of
the disks.

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Re: Thin Terminals

2006-09-23 Thread Ceri Davies
On 20/9/06 13:37, "Robert Davison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've been looking at the Sun Ray terminals and like the idea of using thin
> clients to connect to the main server to run apps. Are they any programms in
> thr ports which allow a similar set-up using FreeBSD. I know you can do this
> with X but would need a tutorial to help me through it.
> 
> Anyone had a go at connecting a sun ray to FreeBSD or are the protocols
> totally different.

The Sun Ray Server software runs on Linux as well as Solaris, so I'd say
that there's an outside chance that it might work.  One day I'll get round
to buying a Sun Ray client and try it out.

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Re: Wilfully dirtying a filesystem

2006-08-17 Thread Ceri Davies
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 09:39:51PM +0100, Chris Whitehouse wrote:
> Ceri Davies wrote:
> >On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 02:58:03PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> >>>Hello Ceri,
> >>>
> >>>Thursday, August 17, 2006, 6:55:08 PM, you wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>I have a system on which /usr is slightly hosed, but not badly enough
> >>>>for it to fail a preen fsck.
> >>>>I cannot easily get to single-user on this machine, so is there a good
> >>>>way for me to dirty the filesystem just enough to force "fsck -p" to
> >>>>fail (yanking power also difficult)?  "umount -f /usr; reboot" doesn't
> >>>>seem to work...
> >>
> >>Is 'fsck -f' not a possibility?
> >
> >No, because I can't unmount /usr.
> >
> >Ceri
> 
> clri (8) possibly?

Too dangerous for my liking :)

I inserted a "fsck -F -y" before the "fsck -F -p" in rc.d/fsck and
rebooted; that got it.

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Re: Wilfully dirtying a filesystem

2006-08-17 Thread Ceri Davies
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 04:23:01PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> Ceri Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 02:21:30PM -0500, Dan Nelson wrote:
> >> 
> >> What kind of setup do you have where you can't get to single-user mode,
> >> but you apparently want fsck -p to fail (which will put you in
> >> single-user mode)?
> >
> > fsck -p failing will drop back to fsck -y, which will fix the problem.
> 
> Um, okay, then why can't you just reboot into single-user mode and run
> fsck -y before the filesystem is mounted?

For the reasons outlined in my initial post.

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Re: Wilfully dirtying a filesystem

2006-08-17 Thread Ceri Davies
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 02:21:30PM -0500, Dan Nelson wrote:
> In the last episode (Aug 17), Ceri Davies said:
> > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 02:58:03PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > > > Thursday, August 17, 2006, 6:55:08 PM, Ceri wrote:
> > > > > I have a system on which /usr is slightly hosed, but not badly enough
> > > > > for it to fail a preen fsck.
> > > > >
> > > > > I cannot easily get to single-user on this machine, so is there
> > > > > a good way for me to dirty the filesystem just enough to force
> > > > > "fsck -p" to fail (yanking power also difficult)?  "umount -f
> > > > > /usr; reboot" doesn't seem to work...
> > > 
> > > Is 'fsck -f' not a possibility?
> > 
> > No, because I can't unmount /usr.
> 
> What kind of setup do you have where you can't get to single-user mode,
> but you apparently want fsck -p to fail (which will put you in
> single-user mode)?

fsck -p failing will drop back to fsck -y, which will fix the problem.

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Re: Wilfully dirtying a filesystem

2006-08-17 Thread Ceri Davies
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 08:11:42PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 02:58:03PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hello Ceri,
> > > 
> > > Thursday, August 17, 2006, 6:55:08 PM, you wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I have a system on which /usr is slightly hosed, but not badly enough
> > > > for it to fail a preen fsck.
> > > 
> > > > I cannot easily get to single-user on this machine, so is there a good
> > > > way for me to dirty the filesystem just enough to force "fsck -p" to
> > > > fail (yanking power also difficult)?  "umount -f /usr; reboot" doesn't
> > > > seem to work...
> > 
> > 
> > Is 'fsck -f' not a possibility?
> 
> No, because I can't unmount /usr.

Actually, that does nicely, thanks.  I had hoped to avoid editing any
startup scripts, but I don't really know why :)

Cheers,

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Re: Wilfully dirtying a filesystem

2006-08-17 Thread Ceri Davies
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 08:15:11PM +0200, Daniel Gerzo wrote:
> Hello Ceri,
> 
> Thursday, August 17, 2006, 6:55:08 PM, you wrote:
> 
> > I have a system on which /usr is slightly hosed, but not badly enough
> > for it to fail a preen fsck.
> 
> > I cannot easily get to single-user on this machine, so is there a good
> > way for me to dirty the filesystem just enough to force "fsck -p" to
> > fail (yanking power also difficult)?  "umount -f /usr; reboot" doesn't
> > seem to work...
> 
> I have been told maybe a week ago that umount -f is badly broken and
> might lead to the deadlock, therefore I would avoid using it :)

Sounds ominous!

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Re: Wilfully dirtying a filesystem

2006-08-17 Thread Ceri Davies
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 02:58:03PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > 
> > Hello Ceri,
> > 
> > Thursday, August 17, 2006, 6:55:08 PM, you wrote:
> > 
> > > I have a system on which /usr is slightly hosed, but not badly enough
> > > for it to fail a preen fsck.
> > 
> > > I cannot easily get to single-user on this machine, so is there a good
> > > way for me to dirty the filesystem just enough to force "fsck -p" to
> > > fail (yanking power also difficult)?  "umount -f /usr; reboot" doesn't
> > > seem to work...
> 
> 
> Is 'fsck -f' not a possibility?

No, because I can't unmount /usr.

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Wilfully dirtying a filesystem

2006-08-17 Thread Ceri Davies
I have a system on which /usr is slightly hosed, but not badly enough
for it to fail a preen fsck.

I cannot easily get to single-user on this machine, so is there a good
way for me to dirty the filesystem just enough to force "fsck -p" to
fail (yanking power also difficult)?  "umount -f /usr; reboot" doesn't
seem to work...

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Re: 6.1 new sysinstall country panel?

2006-05-21 Thread Ceri Davies
On 17/5/06 18:08, "fbsd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> While installing fresh virgin 6.1 from cdrom, the first thing
> I get is a new panel asking for me to select the country I am from.
> 
> What is the purpose of this new country selection screen?
> Why was it added to sysinstall in 6.1?

It was deemed that you might be running out of things to whine about.

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Re: when 5.5

2006-05-11 Thread Ceri Davies
On 11/5/06 16:26, "Jeff Rollin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Are maintenance releases of old branches always released in step with new
> ones, or is it just coincidence that it's happening this way this time?

It was planned this time as an experiment.  The current feeling is that it
has worked quite well.

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Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On 10/5/06 23:37, "martinko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ceri Davies wrote:
>> On 9/5/06 15:57, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> At 07:01 AM 5/9/2006, you wrote:
>>>> I have to agree with the original poster. The logo is crap, and so
>>>> is the font they've started to use since the announcement of
>>>> FreeBSD6.1-RELEASE. At
>>> Me Too.  At first I thought it was just a petty complaint.
>>> 
>>> But if you're trying to "sell" FreeBSD to a boss or customer, a
>>> serious, business-like web site surely helps.  The new one seems to
>>> borrow too much from the "hax0r" community's appearance.
>>> 
>>> And the font overflows and looks like complete shit on my
>>> browser;  usually this would just be blamed on using a "Non Microsoft
>>> Browser" (FireFox on windoze) but until we have IE for FBSD, it seems
>>> a legit complaint.
>> 
>> The font overflows?  We didn't change the font.
>> 
>> Ceri
> 
> well, i would expect the page to scale somehow better when i try to
> increase font size in mozilla. but if it can't even render properly when
> i choose "officially" via "large" text size option right on the page,
> then i must conclude it's not good and not ready for the public. :-(

That's an issue for www@ -> over there.  It also has nothing to do with the
logo.

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Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 07:00:49PM +0100, Jeff Rollin wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I for one do not see an need to change the logo at all.
> >
> >That's no reason to tell lies.
> 
> There's no reason to accuse people of telling lies without having any
> evidence, either.

Statements were made which are provably untrue.  Call it what you want.

> Can't wait till you get caught out.

Sure.

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Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 05:51:10PM +, cpghost wrote:
> On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 06:40:01PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote:
> > On 10/5/06 18:24, "cpghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 02:44:03PM +, Kep Woof wrote:
> > >>> This is free software man, if you don't like it, fix it
> > >>> yourself.
> > >> 
> > >> What is the procedure to fix a logo?
> > > 
> > > use send-pr(1), of course!
> > > 
> > > Since we're talking about logos: when will the next time window
> > > open for a new try? I humbly suggest using 'FreeBSD' (the text,
> > > no graphics) as logo. The only parameter would be choosing the
> > > right distinctive font (let's call it the FreeBSD-Font) for it.
> > > Was that suggested back then? We used to have a 'FreeBSD' image
> > > on the old website. Perhaps that should have been used as a logo?
> > > ANYTHING would have been better than that current ugly sex-toy.
> > 
> > There were tens of submissions that just had the word 'FreeBSD'.
> 
> Ah, good to know. Thank you.
> 
> >  The word
> > 'FreeBSD' isn't a logo, or they looked crappy, so they lost.
> 
> What about 'SONY' or 'IBM'? They are logos too. Granted, not as
> long as 'FreeBSD', but a word doesn't disqualify as a logo just
> because it's a word.

I wouldn't sweat (or trust my memory to remember) the details.  Most of
them definitely said "Free BSD" though.

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Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On 10/5/06 18:24, "cpghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 02:44:03PM +, Kep Woof wrote:
>>> This is free software man, if you don't like it, fix it
>>> yourself.
>> 
>> What is the procedure to fix a logo?
> 
> use send-pr(1), of course!
> 
> Since we're talking about logos: when will the next time window
> open for a new try? I humbly suggest using 'FreeBSD' (the text,
> no graphics) as logo. The only parameter would be choosing the
> right distinctive font (let's call it the FreeBSD-Font) for it.
> Was that suggested back then? We used to have a 'FreeBSD' image
> on the old website. Perhaps that should have been used as a logo?
> ANYTHING would have been better than that current ugly sex-toy.

There were tens of submissions that just had the word 'FreeBSD'.  The word
'FreeBSD' isn't a logo, or they looked crappy, so they lost.

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Re: 6.1_RELEASE Install Problem

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On 10/5/06 05:03, "bc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> After make installworld I ran the final run thru of mergemaster and recived
> this error:
> 
> ERROR CODE 64
> FATAL ERROR: Cannot 'dc' into /usr/src/etc/ and install files to the
> temproot environment.

Did you cut and paste that, or copy it in manually?

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Re: vote for keeping "beastie" as official logo

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On 10/5/06 15:53, "fbsd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> If you are as dissatisfied with the new official logo
> as I am, then forward this email to the FreeBSD federation
> board of directors at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Dear FreeBSD federation board of directors:
> 
> I am upset with the manner in which it was decided
> that a new logo was needed.
> 
> Only posting a message that this was happening on the
> announcement list was an big mistake as it left out
> the users who promote FreeBSD at the grass roots
> level from knowing about it. An change of this
> magnitude should have been broadcast to all lists
> to get the widest based input possible.
> 
> I sincerely hope this deception was not on
> purpose as it looks that way.
>  
> Furthermore the new logo design is not satisfactory
> and does not represent the wants of the user community
> as shown by the multiple posts on the questions
> list of late.
> 
> 
> My vote is for keeping the beastie image as the
> official FreeBSD logo and removing the sex toy
> logo from publication.

OK, you have had your say.
Will you then, for the love of all that is sacred, stop starting new threads
on this subject?  Please.

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Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On 10/5/06 15:15, "DAve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://pixelhammer.com/aw_jeez.jpg
> 
> This has gone too far. Searching shows that the FreeBSD questions list
> had mention of this over a year ago.
> 
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-questions/2005-February/076063.
> html
> 
> To be blunt about it, you and everyone else had their chance. My wife, a
> designer, knew FreeBSD had a logo contest and she wouldn't know FreeBSD
> from a martian if it were not for my T-shirt.
> 
> Anyone could have contributed. But like beta testing, most simply
> ignored the request to participate, preferring to wait until someone
> else did the hard work and made the tough decisions, then chose to bitch
> when the result was not want they wanted. It's apathy. Yea, I'm more
> than annoyed and this has been a long time coming.
> 
> How many people actually keep a development server running just to help
> open source developers test patches or updates, even when those patches
> and updates do not affect them?
> 
> How many donate to the souls who write the tools we use every day? Or do
> they just read the maillists when they need help, never offering to help
> others, and then get an attitude when the help they request doesn't
> arrive? A lot.
> 
> I constantly dog my employers to donate, let me have work time to help
> out on lists, purchase the books (Mailscanner and Rails) that help the
> developers, keep a development box for testing. They complain even
> though they could not compete in the market place had they been required
> to purchase licenses for all the software they use.
> 
> The Internet is the industry that open source built, and it has created
> a society of hand out junkies who think they should get everything their
> way, for free, right now.
> 
> This job isn't fun anymore.

Hear, hear.

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Re: New FreeBSD Logo

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On 10/5/06 09:18, "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jonathan Horne
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:23 PM
>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo
>> 
>> 
>> i dont mind saying that i think i must be about the only one
>> who likes the
>> new art.  i think its very modern looking, crisp and abreviated,
>> un-childish, but at the same time not too serious or ominous.
>> 
>> ive actually thought about printing out some examples of both versions,
>> carrying it down to our artists in our print studio, and "taste testing"
>> them with professional artists who couldnt give one care about anything
>> technical.  *shrug* would be an interesting experiment, to say
>> the least.
>> 
> 
> Someone already posted a professional analysis.  The summary was that
> the new logo was amateurish with some serious flaws.  Amateurish because
> a ball is about the easiest thing you can produce in Photoshop and very
> unoriginal.  Serious flaws because due to all the shading this logo is
> impossible to accurately reproduce on small items like business cards,
> and on larger items the shading makes it very expensive to reproduce due
> to the number of colors used.

In fact, there are reduced colour versions for exactly that reason.  Since
you didn't bother to look for them, I guess this isn't the real issue for
you, though.

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Re: FreeBSD 6.1 is now available for download

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On 10/5/06 17:54, "Daniel Bye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 10:28:34AM -0400, fbsd wrote:
>> This is just a short note to inform all the list readers that 6.1 is
>> available.
> 
> We know.  We read announce@

Thanks, that's funny!

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Re: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On 10/5/06 16:42, "Jeff Rollin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> 
>> Does anyone else think its a logo get over it? When was the last time an
>> IT admin went I installed Win 2k3 becuase it has that cool logo thing
>> that I like for a screensaver?
> 
> 
> I think it's a bigger problem than that. When was the last time Steve
> Ballmer responded to a complaint that his shiny new elephant d*ck
> screensaver crashed the system with the words "Go fuck yourself"? That's the
> kind of response some who claim to be high-ups in the FreeBSD community are
> giving here.

Not a single "high-up", whatever that means, has responded to this thread.

Could be nice if people would stop lying while trying to make a point.

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Re: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On 10/5/06 15:25, "fbsd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Your negtave comments are foundless.
> A public vote is not an logistical near-impossibility.
> Hell just creating a special list to submit an email
> to as your yes or not vote is a simple solution and other
> solutions could be found one way or the other.

I guess that's why the USENET voting procedures didn't just get abandoned.

> If you are insulted by my comments then I guess you
> belong the self righteous snobs group and I dont care about you.

Funny, that.

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Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On 10/5/06 13:13, "fbsd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> As a long time reader of this list I did not see any
> announcement of it here. Only after selection of the
> new logo was made was it talked about on this list
> People were very up set with it them and the ground
> swell over this has only gotten bigger.
> 
> Loyal long time users are feeling insulted about being
> left out from the decision about the need for a new logo.
> A post in the archive give some lame reasons for a new logo
> which many people disagreed with even then but still the
> new legal FreeBSD foundation went ahead any how put it
> on the official website.
> 
> I for one do not see an need to change the logo at all.

That's no reason to tell lies.

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Re: Mirroring GNATS locally - /usr/ports/databases/gnats marked as forbidden

2006-05-09 Thread Ceri Davies
On 9/5/06 15:06, "Frank Steinborn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I want to mirror the FreeBSD-GNATS db at home, as shown in the
> Committers Guide. However, gnats in Ports is marked as forbidden. Can
> I safely use GNATS4 instead? Is it compatible to GNATS3 databases?

Nope.  I just run a local copy with the setuid bit taken off.

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Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-09 Thread Ceri Davies
On 9/5/06 10:52, "Kep Woof" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I guess this is the wrong list, but I just looked at freebsd.org and
> saw the new logo.  I really think it looks terrible.  Everyone that
> I've spoken to agrees.  It looks like some kind of sextoy/spacehopper,
> and not becomming to the enterprise os we know and love.  Maybe it was
> the best from the competition you had, but I don't think it's good
> enough.  Is there somewhere this was discussed?  The new logo already
> looks last year.  Is there a plan to redesign it each year as design
> trends come and go? If you compare it to the debian, IBM, BMW,
> greenpeace, or google logos, the design relates in some way to the
> subject.  I don't see that happening here.
> 
> Sorry if this is too late, or an unpopular opinion, or in the wrong
> place, but I just wondered if anyone thinks the new logo is good, and
> how long it's expected to last.
> 
> Interested to hear what people think,

I think you're trolling.  Well done anyway.

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Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-09 Thread Ceri Davies
On 9/5/06 11:56, "cpghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Semi-seriously, www@: how about offering people a chance to individually
> customize that logo away? It's not really THAT important, but setting
> up a transparent proxy just to filter that banner out is kind of silly
> waste of time.

Specify your own stylesheet, move along.

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Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-09 Thread Ceri Davies
On 9/5/06 15:57, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 07:01 AM 5/9/2006, you wrote:
>> I have to agree with the original poster. The logo is crap, and so
>> is the font they've started to use since the announcement of
>> FreeBSD6.1-RELEASE. At
> 
> Me Too.  At first I thought it was just a petty complaint.
> 
> But if you're trying to "sell" FreeBSD to a boss or customer, a
> serious, business-like web site surely helps.  The new one seems to
> borrow too much from the "hax0r" community's appearance.
> 
> And the font overflows and looks like complete shit on my
> browser;  usually this would just be blamed on using a "Non Microsoft
> Browser" (FireFox on windoze) but until we have IE for FBSD, it seems
> a legit complaint.

The font overflows?  We didn't change the font.

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Re: FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE !!

2006-05-08 Thread Ceri Davies
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 11:44:15AM -0500, Donald J. O'Neill wrote:
> On Monday 08 May 2006 10:55, Ceri Davies wrote:
> > On 8/5/06 15:39, "Jonathan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > on a dev box, did a cvsup and buildworld yesterday... and now my
> > > kernel says 6.1 stable!
> > >
> > > fbsd60-2# uname -a
> > > FreeBSD fbsd60-2.dev.dfwlp.com 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0:
> > > Sun May 7 18:33:48 CDT 2006
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FBSD60-2  i386
> > >
> > > *shrug* i look on freebsd.org, but i didnt see an announcement
> > > about it yet.  how close to release does this put us?
> >
> > It essentially means that the release has been finished, and is being
> > built/uploaded.
> 
> It's sitting on the mirror sites, if you look. I downloaded one this 
> morning.

Yes, I know, but until it is announced, you can't be guaranteed that
those bits are the right ones.  The delay allows us to make sure that
all mirrors have it before they start getting hammered.

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Re: FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE !!

2006-05-08 Thread Ceri Davies
On 8/5/06 15:39, "Jonathan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> on a dev box, did a cvsup and buildworld yesterday... and now my kernel
> says 6.1 stable!
> 
> fbsd60-2# uname -a
> FreeBSD fbsd60-2.dev.dfwlp.com 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Sun May
> 7 18:33:48 CDT 2006
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FBSD60-2  i386
> 
> *shrug* i look on freebsd.org, but i didnt see an announcement about it
> yet.  how close to release does this put us?

It essentially means that the release has been finished, and is being
built/uploaded.

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Re: DCSSI Authorisation for Free BSD Software

2006-05-06 Thread Ceri Davies
Bethan,

On Fri, May 05, 2006 at 03:44:35PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
> ExportControls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Additionally, because FreeBSD contains what is considered "strong 
> > cryptography", French authorities (the "DCSSI") requires that an 
> > authorisation is obtained for the item if it is to be imported to, 
> > supplied in, used in, or exported from France. 

FreeBSD is partly developed in France, if that makes any difference.

> > It is Reuters policy to be complaint with all relevant regulations in the 
> > countries they operate, and as Reuters will potentially be doing all of 
> > the activities mentioned above it is essential that they obtain the 
> > relevant authorisation from the DCSSI prior to importing to, supplying in, 
> > using in, or exporting FreeBSD from France. Consequently, Reuters cannot 
> > export FreeBSD from its server in the US to its French offices until said 
> > authorisation has been obtained.
> > 
> > Therefore, we would appreciate if you could investigate whether such an 
> > authorisation has been obtained for FreeBSD v4.1, alternatively refer us 
> > to a legal contact that may be able to answer our query.

Without wishing to offend him, Bill is just a user of FreeBSD, the same
as Reuters.  He is unlikely to wish to do that job for you.

Try the FreeBSD Foundation, contacted via
http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/contact.shtml.  They are the closest
thing we have to legal representation.

The answer to your question, however, is extremely likely to be "no".
There is no money for that.

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Re: BSD equiv of /proc?

2006-05-05 Thread Ceri Davies
On 5/5/06 15:44, "Jeff Rollin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jeff.
> 
> On 05/05/06, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, 5 May 2006 10:07:03 -0400
>> "Jim Stapleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have a proc filesystem on my computer, but it's  empty. I'm used to
>>> linux, where you can do stuff like 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' to get
>>> information about the system. What is the BSD equivalent of this, or
>>> is it /proc, and I'm just missing something?
>> 
>> If you absolutely can't live without /proc, install the linuxulator
>> and mount linproc.  It will give you a linux compatible /proc.

> Will that only work for Linux programs?

It is available to them all (if they know to look in /compat/linux/proc,
which is the canonical place for the linprocfs mount - Linux programs get
redirected there automagically).

I don't know if stuff would break if you mounted a linprocfs at /proc.

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Re: Log or Journal Filesystem

2006-04-28 Thread Ceri Davies
On 28/4/06 19:35, "Alexandre Biancalana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi List,
> 
>   Has some news about a log or journal filesystem for FreeBSD ??
> 
>   I've looked at gjournal (http://wikitest.freebsd.org/moin.cgi/gjournal)
> but it not seen to be a complete solution.

There has been some other work done on gjournal, which we expect to see Real
Soon Now.  Watch this space.

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Re: bind and multiple a records

2006-04-24 Thread Ceri Davies
On 23/4/06 07:24, "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On FreeBSD 6.0 with bind9, if I define a host to have multiple A
> records, such that some IP addresses are listed more than once, for
> example:
> 
> .
> .
> .
> www  600  IN A  192.168.1.1
> 600  IN A   192.168.1.2
> 600  IN A  192.168.1.1
> .
> .
> .
> 
> 
> Will those addresses listed more than once show up more often as the
> "answer" to name server requests (or more often as the first address
> since it lists all addresses in response alternating the order)??

If it doesn't you could cheat thusly:

www IN  CNAME   www1
IN  CNAME   www2
IN  CNAME   www3
www1IN  A   192.168.1.1
www2IN  A   192.168.1.1
www3IN  A   192.168.1.2

It would still be a crappy solution though :)

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Re: Firewall log unlimited - How to?

2006-03-20 Thread Ceri Davies
On 20/3/06 14:57, "Rodrigo G. Tavares de Souza"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I was configuring the Firewall when I got this message:
> 
> Mar 20 11:16:08 bsd-net kernel: ipfw: limit 100 reached on entry 835
> 
>And the firewall stoped to create log messages after this message.
> 
>What I do need to do to IPFW do not stop writing the log file?
> 
>If I change this option  IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT on kernel to:
> IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=0
> 

Set the net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit sysctl to 0.

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Re: Mistake in FreeBSD manual

2006-03-20 Thread Ceri Davies
On 20/3/06 10:13, "Andrew Pantyukhin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 3/20/06, Grant Moritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>Hey,
>>In the FreeBSD manual
>>([1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-
>>inetd.html) under the section "25.2.5 Security" at the end of the
>>first paragraph there is an error in grammar.
>>"Some daemons, such as fingerd, may not be desired at all because they
>>information that may be useful to an attacker."
>>Doesn't make sense to me just thought I would pass along the
>>observation you guys.

> I think that an average english reader would not notice
> that, inserting the word "provide" subconciously.

That's what I did when I wrote it, when I proofread it, and again when I
read it above.  Sorry, I must be mentally blind to it!

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Re: BSD License "Innocence" Clause Proposal

2006-03-19 Thread Ceri Davies
On 19/3/06 22:16, "Andrew Pantyukhin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm not sure if I should start advocating the idea here.
> Some people must've had this thought before I ever
> did, I hope they will support me.
> 
> We need a special clause in the license we release
> our work under. I'm not a lawyer, but I understand that
> it will be very hard to devise and formulate. Basically,
> it should state that under no circumstances and under
> no legislation should ever any entity be punished for
> breaking the license terms.
> 
> I just can't sleep tight when a man can get sued and
> prosecuted because he copied a piece of my work
> without mentioning my name, whatever his motives
> are. At the same time, I respect my work and the work
> of other, and appreciate a way to state that names
> should be mentioned.

Well, just don't prosecute.

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Re: docs/94587: Error in ftpusers(5) manpage

2006-03-19 Thread Ceri Davies
Whoops, wrong list.

Ceri

On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 07:43:32PM +, Ceri Davies wrote:
> On 19/3/06 18:40, "Ceri Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >  All of the man pages belonging to NetBSD's FTP daemon should be renamed so
> >  that they don't conflict, because this is too confusing.  I recommend that
> >  this PR get assigned to whoever does the import of the lukemftpd stuff.
> 
> Turns out I raised a PR for this 3.5 years ago: docs/44519.
> 
> Ceri

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Re: docs/94587: Error in ftpusers(5) manpage

2006-03-19 Thread Ceri Davies
On 19/3/06 18:40, "Ceri Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  All of the man pages belonging to NetBSD's FTP daemon should be renamed so
>  that they don't conflict, because this is too confusing.  I recommend that
>  this PR get assigned to whoever does the import of the lukemftpd stuff.

Turns out I raised a PR for this 3.5 years ago: docs/44519.

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Re: Daily chksetuid script - how to ignore certain dirs/filesystems?

2006-03-19 Thread Ceri Davies
On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 08:25:04AM -0700, Pat Maddox wrote:
> On 3/19/06, Ceri Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 19/3/06 10:58, "Pat Maddox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I have a backup script that runs every night, backing up everything to
> > > a backup drive.  When the security script runs, it finds a bunch of
> > > setuid files at /backup - I'd like to ignore those files, so I don't
> > > have to wade through them every day.  I also back up to a remote
> > > server and it results in the same thing.  How can I make it skip over
> > > the backup dir, or at least ignore it in the output?  The cron file in
> > > question is /etc/periodic/security/100.chksetuid
> >
> > The best way to be to mount /backup nosuid.
> 
> How about on the other server?  The files go to the /home partition
> (and that's where they have to go).

I'd do the same there unless there is a good reason not to (and the same
for /tmp, /var/, etc) as SOP anyway.

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Re: Daily chksetuid script - how to ignore certain dirs/filesystems?

2006-03-19 Thread Ceri Davies
On 19/3/06 10:58, "Pat Maddox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have a backup script that runs every night, backing up everything to
> a backup drive.  When the security script runs, it finds a bunch of
> setuid files at /backup - I'd like to ignore those files, so I don't
> have to wade through them every day.  I also back up to a remote
> server and it results in the same thing.  How can I make it skip over
> the backup dir, or at least ignore it in the output?  The cron file in
> question is /etc/periodic/security/100.chksetuid

The best way to be to mount /backup nosuid.

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Re: need help

2006-03-17 Thread Ceri Davies
On 17/3/06 12:30, "Michael S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've tried both. fsck_ffs /dev/ad0s1a also exits because of bad superblocks.

If you used the default parameters when creating the filesystem then
"newfs -N /dev/ad0s1a" should tell you where the alternate superblocks are
and you may be able to use one of them with fsck_ffs's -b option.

Don't forget the -N to newfs whatever you do though.  If you're
uncomfortable using that, then just try block 32 or 160.

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Re: mounting nfs share

2006-03-17 Thread Ceri Davies
On 17/3/06 11:24, "Imran Imtiaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> what is the command to mount NFS share?

See the mount_nfs manpage.

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Re: How to figure out who shutdown box (Kelly D. Grills)

2006-03-07 Thread Ceri Davies
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 10:22:08PM -0500, Jon Poland wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 10:24:17AM -0500, Jon Poland wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>   I operate a colo box running FreeBSD 6.0-SECURITY.  Yesterday the box
> >> shutdown and powered off.  I didn't execute shutdown or halt, and I'm
> >the
> >> only user who can.  Here's what the logs tell me:
> >>
> >> /var/log/console.log:
> >> Mar  3 11:24:29 kmart kernel: Shutting down daemon processes:
> >>
> >> /var/log/messages:
> >> Mar  3 11:24:38 kmart syslogd: exiting on signal 15
> >>
> >> last: (the important lines)
> >> reboot   ~ Fri Mar  3 13:10
> >> shutdown ~ Fri Mar  3 11:24
> >>
> >> I don't see anything in any of the logs like "rebooted by X", etc.
> >>
> >> I'm not exactly sure how this can happen and looking for ideas.
> >>
> >
> > Where are you logging security messages? I believe the default is to
> > /var/log/security
> >
> > Have a look at /etc/syslog.conf and syslog.conf(5)
> >
> > You should see messages such as this in your security log:
> > Mar  1 15:21:38 srv1 shutdown: reboot by kdgrills:
> 
> For me, those show up in /var/log/messages:
> Jan 17 22:54:23 kmart reboot: rebooted by polandj
> 
> But nothing for the particular shutdown in question...

It's possible that someone hit the power button.

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Re: New logo, new look

2006-03-07 Thread Ceri Davies
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 11:19:28AM +, Ceri Davies wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 05:01:43PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Ceri Davies wrote:
> > 
> > >On 6/3/06 14:56, "fbsd_user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >>So a little red ball with 2 little pointed ears is the new logo.
> > >>It sucks big time.
> > >>
> > >>When you have a contest and none of the entrees are any good
> > >>you do not have to pick any of then, you could have just
> > >>closed the contest with no winner.
> > >
> > >The problem with that argument is that some people, including myself, liked
> > >the new logo.  Since opinion is entirely subjective, you may as well shut
> > >up.
> > 
> > Is there a reason why both the old and new logos cannot be used in tandem? 
> > I'd rather leave the old one up on my web site, since, personally, I like 
> > it better ... I understand the argument for a 'new logo', but, quite 
> > frankly, after looking at the new one, I'm surprised the same arguments 
> > (being associated with a demon) isn't still being made, since the new one 
> > *still* gives that same connotation ...
> > 
> > My preference is to keep using the old logo ("Beastie") on my web site, 
> > and I imagine there are others that feel the same way ... are we going to 
> > be "shunned" as a result?  I would hope not ...
> 
> Absolutely not - that was never the plan.  Remember that Beastie
> represents BSD as a whole, while the new logo will represent FreeBSD.
> That's all it's about.

Occurs to me that the meaning of "absolutely not" might not be that
clear above: if you want to use Beastie on stuff, nobody will point at
you or mutter behind your back.  We, as in the FreeBSD project, will
mainly be using the new one, as it will identify the FreeBSD project as
opposed to just BSD in general like Beastie does.

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Re: New logo, new look

2006-03-07 Thread Ceri Davies
On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 05:01:43PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Ceri Davies wrote:
> 
> >On 6/3/06 14:56, "fbsd_user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>So a little red ball with 2 little pointed ears is the new logo.
> >>It sucks big time.
> >>
> >>When you have a contest and none of the entrees are any good
> >>you do not have to pick any of then, you could have just
> >>closed the contest with no winner.
> >
> >The problem with that argument is that some people, including myself, liked
> >the new logo.  Since opinion is entirely subjective, you may as well shut
> >up.
> 
> Is there a reason why both the old and new logos cannot be used in tandem? 
> I'd rather leave the old one up on my web site, since, personally, I like 
> it better ... I understand the argument for a 'new logo', but, quite 
> frankly, after looking at the new one, I'm surprised the same arguments 
> (being associated with a demon) isn't still being made, since the new one 
> *still* gives that same connotation ...
> 
> My preference is to keep using the old logo ("Beastie") on my web site, 
> and I imagine there are others that feel the same way ... are we going to 
> be "shunned" as a result?  I would hope not ...

Absolutely not - that was never the plan.  Remember that Beastie
represents BSD as a whole, while the new logo will represent FreeBSD.
That's all it's about.

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Re: Release 6.0 386 kernel config file

2006-03-06 Thread Ceri Davies
On 6/3/06 19:26, "Steve P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Could someone please give me a url to a text listing of this file? I
> don't have access to fbsd right now.

http://cvsweb.FreeBSD.org/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC - click "download"

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Re: New logo, new look

2006-03-06 Thread Ceri Davies
On 6/3/06 14:56, "fbsd_user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So a little red ball with 2 little pointed ears is the new logo.
> It sucks big time.
> 
> When you have a contest and none of the entrees are any good
> you do not have to pick any of then, you could have just
> closed the contest with no winner.

The problem with that argument is that some people, including myself, liked
the new logo.  Since opinion is entirely subjective, you may as well shut
up.

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Re: Terminal Not Providing login: Prompt

2006-03-05 Thread Ceri Davies
On 4/3/06 23:37, "Jason C. Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Glenn Dawson wrote:
>> At 03:04 PM 3/4/2006, Jason C. Wells wrote:
>>> When I use 'tip' I seem to bee connected, but I get no login prompt.
>>> 
>>> $ tip sio0
>>> connected
>>> 
>>> and nothing else.
>> 
>> Did you enable ttyd0 in /etc/ttys?
> 
> Yes.

Did you reboot or HUP init since?

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Re: New Logo

2006-03-03 Thread Ceri Davies
On 3/3/06 18:01, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ansar Mohammed wrote:
>> Does anyone know where I can get apparel with the new FreeBSD Logos?
>>  
>> 
>> 
> On a related note:
> What's the status of the winner of the logo contest?
> Is it encumbered, is it free to use?

Copyright has been assigned to the FreeBSD Foundation, the trademark has
been applied for.  There are a couple of loose ends to tie up.

> Will there be a new contest?

No.

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Re: We want tu use your company name and logo

2006-03-03 Thread Ceri Davies
On 3/3/06 15:54, "Aaron Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 3/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I don't see the point in all this FreeBSD, Linux wars just give the man an
>> answer and walk away he wants to sell FreeBSD Daemon logos, the Penguin
>> Logos, and the slackware logo he has a right to do so as long as he asks
>> the realative partys for permission. I find it lame and a waste of time to
>> have all these Linux and FreeBSD wars and both OS'es have there place
> 
> I haven't seen anything to indicate a war, just an indication that
> someone thinks there is a thing called Slackware FreeBSD Linux that
> they want to sell logo clothing for, and some other folks that find it
> hilarious.

An alternative might be that English is not his first language and he didn't
know that there were supposed to be some commas there.  I'm pretty sure that
he doesn't think that there is such a thing as "Slackware FreeBSD Linux".

What Chris is getting at is that I see 5 responses laughing at the guy - and
he hasn't even been copied in on them, so they're all laughing behind his
back - just because he mentioned Linux.  That's just callous.
 
> I find it hilarious.

Do you laugh at people who stutter as well?

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Re: does buildkernel rerun config

2006-03-01 Thread Ceri Davies
On 1/3/06 07:53, "Steel City Phantom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> say you are running buildkernel with a config file.  you realize you
> made a mistake and ctl-c the build.  change the config file and restart
> buildkernel.  does make buildkernel re-run the config to update the code
> configuration?

Yes.

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Re: password change in memberships reminder

2006-03-01 Thread Ceri Davies
On 1/3/06 06:06, "Ashok Shrestha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just received my monthly "freebsd.org mailing list memberships
> reminder." But some of my passwords were changed. Is that normal?
> 
> I can't check my previous ones because I already deleted them.

Is it possible that you never set a password?  If so, one will have been
randomly generated for you, which may explain why you don't recognise it.

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Re: Desperate - FreeBSD 6.0 Freezing

2006-02-26 Thread Ceri Davies
On 26/2/06 09:24, "Grant Peel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ACPI APIC Table: 

Ha ha - does that stand for what I think it stands for?

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Re: portsnap failing

2006-02-24 Thread Ceri Davies
On 23/2/06 11:33, "Ashley Moran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm trying to update my ports tree on a 6.0-RELEASE/amd64 machine.  I get this
> error:
> 
> Updating from Wed Feb 15 08:30:17 GMT 2006 to Thu Feb 23 10:20:03 GMT 2006.
> Fetching 3 metadata patches.. done.
> Applying metadata patches... done.
> Fetching 3 metadata files... /usr/sbin/portsnap: cannot open
> f1777c019669546744ef448c17531bdd125884253a6bf4b73f6e77001d7a0b12.gz: No such
> file or directory
> 
> 
> If I delete the portsnap files and try to fetch a new snapshot, I get this
> error instead:
> 
> Fetching snapshot generated at Thu Feb 23 03:09:19 GMT 2006:
> f4b0454e7bce8a4decdb9190e22b8325a966e92005df5f 97% of   39 MB  118 kBps 00m08s
> fetch: transfer timed out
> 
> 
> Neither of my i386 boxes have this problem.  Does anyone know where the issue
> lies?

Go on, humour me and run that bad boy with -x!

sh -x /usr/sbin/portsnap fetch

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Re: torrents.freebsd.org

2006-02-23 Thread Ceri Davies
On 20/2/06 23:34, "Bob Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> torrents.freebsd.org (216.136.204.113:8080) does not seem to be
> accepting any connections.  Neither ctorrent nor rtorrent will connect
> to it, nor will a manual telnet connection.
> 
> torrents.freebsd.org:8080 is the tracker specified in the torrent
> files downloaded from
> ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/torrents/6.0-RELEASE.
> 
> Am I doing something wrong or is it down?

It's down.  There are no reliable statements as to when it will be back up,
either.

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Re: Odd file created in /

2006-02-18 Thread Ceri Davies
On 18/2/06 10:27, "Mike Loiterman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have a file in / called -P.  It is a socket file I believe I created by
> mistake while trying to get mysql, spamassassin, or something similar to
> work. 
> 
> How can I check for sure to make sure it isn't something important?

Check to see if anything has it open currently.  "netstat -a -f unix" will
do that for you.  Then rename it.  Then wait a week before unlinking it.

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Re: Odd daily run output

2006-02-15 Thread Ceri Davies


On 15 Feb 2006, at 13:26, Lowell Gilbert wrote:


Jimmie James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


I know there's 8% reserved for softupdates, but how is it possible
that there's _extra_ space on /tmp ?  What am I missing?  This is the
first time I've seen this.


This is a FAQ.
In fact, it's listed in the FAQ list.
"How is it possible for a partition to be more than 100% full?"
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/ 
disks.html#DISK-MORE-THAN-FULL


Except that it isn't, and you should read the questions more carefully.

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Re: More tomcat wierdness

2006-02-13 Thread Ceri Davies


On 13 Feb 2006, at 13:00, Ashley Moran wrote:

I've reinstalled Tomcat (now in www/tomcat55) because it was going  
mental
(100% CPU) and now the stop/start isn't working through the rc.d  
script.


Tomcat starts and records the PID in /var/run/tomcat55.pid.  But  
when I call
the script with stop I get an error saying "tomcat not started?  
check pid

file", or something to that effect.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ls -lad /var/run/. /var/run/tomcat55.pid
drwxr-xr-x  5 root  wheel  512 Feb 13 12:10 /var/run/.
-rw-r--r--  1 www   wheel6 Feb 13 12:22 /var/run/tomcat55.pid

It worked fine when it was running off the old www/jakarta-tomcat55  
port - I

don't know if anything has changed.


"sh -x /usr/local/etc/rc.d/tomcat55.sh stop" may shed some light.

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Re: Long list of stale dependencies for tomcat55 port

2006-02-13 Thread Ceri Davies


On 13 Feb 2006, at 11:28, Ashley Moran wrote:


Does anyone know how my Tomcat installation on a 5.4 box has ended up
including the following as tomcat dependencies?

atk-1.10.3
libXft-2.1.7
xorg-fonts-encodings-6.9.0_1
desktop-file-utils-0.10_3
pango-1.10.3
glib-2.8.6
cairo-1.0.2_1
gtk-2.8.12
mozilla-1.7.12_5,2
tiff-3.8.0
bitstream-vera-1.10_2


Nope.


I don't even know what half of them do.  I've deleted all the stale
dependencies because freshports.org says the only run-time  
dependency is

java/jdk14 (jdk15 on my machine).  Is this right?


According to make, yes:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]/www/tomcat55} % make -V RUN_DEPENDS
/usr/local/jdk1.4.2/bin/java:/usr/ports/java/jdk14

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Re: scripting sysinstall for pxeboot

2006-02-12 Thread Ceri Davies


On 11 Feb 2006, at 04:30, Christopher Cowart wrote:

On a not-a-show-stopper note, is there any way to get around  
specifying

the hostname and/or net device? I'd rather not specify the hostname so
that I can have one generic script for many machines. Further, what if
a some other machine has a different kind of NIC? By hardcoding these
values into install.cfg, the solution becomes much less maintainable.
Why can't it obtain the hostname from DHCP? Any thoughts on this?


Net device, I think you're out of luck.  As for the hostname, if the
DHCP server actually sends a hostname, then you *can* leave it out of
install.cfg.

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Re: Mount changing mount point rights?

2006-02-11 Thread Ceri Davies


On 11 Feb 2006, at 08:44, Norberto Meijome wrote:


thanks for the pointer. After mounting it, I did
sudo chown betom: mnt_fld

cd mnt_fld
ls -la
drwx--  16 betom  wheel512 Feb 11 12:07 .
drwxr-x---  50 betom  betom   3072 Feb 11 11:47 ..
[...]

which looks ok to me..

but as soon as I unmount and mount again, it reverts to root:wheel


That's very, very strange, and shouldn't be possible.  What are
you doing differently to me:

# uname -v
	FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #19: Sun Feb  5 04:58:29 GMT 2006  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SHRIKE

# dd if=/dev/zero of=/a/md bs=1000 count=6144000
# mdconfig -a -f /a/md
md2
# geli init /dev/md2
# geli attach /dev/md2
# newfs -U /dev/md2.eli
# mount /dev/md2.eli /mnt
# ls -ld /mnt
drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel  512 Feb 11 15:15 /mnt
# chown ceri:users /mnt
# ls -ld /mnt
drwxr-xr-x  3 ceri  users  512 Feb 11 15:15 /mnt
# umount /mnt
# mount /dev/md2.eli /mnt
# ls -ld /mnt
drwxr-xr-x  3 ceri  users  512 Feb 11 15:15 /mnt

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Re: Mount changing mount point rights?

2006-02-10 Thread Ceri Davies


On 9 Feb 2006, at 12:52, Norberto Meijome wrote:


hi all,
I'm mounting a GELI encrypted, file backed vnode on ~/mount_folder.  
I am

member of wheel.

I start with
 Home directory:
drwxr-x---  51 betom  betom  3072 Feb  9 23:38 betom

file and folder which i want to mount in.

drwxrwx---   2 betom  betom 512 Feb  9 17:42 mount_folder
-rw-rw   1 betom  betom  614400 Feb  9 23:38 geli.dsk

I then define the md device, attach it to geli (it was already init  
and

newfs -U run on it), fsck

sudo mdconfig -a -t vnode -f ./_1.dsk -u 13
sudo geli attach /dev/md13
fsck -p -t ufs /dev/md13.eli

the devices look like this :
$ ls -l /dev/md*
crw-r-  1 root  wheel0, 121 Feb  9 22:24 /dev/md13
crw-r-  1 root  wheel0, 122 Feb  9 23:23 /dev/md13.eli
crw-rw  1 root  wheel0,  87 Feb  9 22:24 /dev/mdctl

Then mount it:
sudo mount /dev/md13.eli /home/betom/mount_folder

PROBLEM : the mount folder has changed it's access from
770 betom:betom
to
750 root:wheel

drwxr-xr-x   3 root   wheel 512 Feb  9 18:51 mount_folder
-rw-rw   1 betom  betom  614400 Feb  9 23:50 geli.dsk

umask :
$ umask
0022

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [Thu Feb  9 23:48:53 2006]
~
$ sudo umask
0022


WHY is it doing that?! Since I want to use this folder as my own  
user ,

not root, I have to do the extra step of changing owner of the folder
every time...quite annoying.
how can I fix this?


The owner of the "root" folder on the filesystem on md13.eli is root.
Just chown/chmod it once it's mounted and it'll stick.

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Re: Proper mail headers

2006-02-05 Thread Ceri Davies
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 06:57:30AM +0900, Eric Kjeldergaard wrote:

> I reply to emails using the "reply to all" feature of my mail client.  It 
> replies (not unreasonably, I think) to the list (as specified by List-ID), 
> the To, From, and CC.  It seems to eliminate any duplicates as well as my own 
> address.  This had a bad effect recently where I duplicated a message to the 
> -questions mailing list because it was To: questions@ with a List-ID of 
> freebsd-questions@ .  My question is, other than paying careful manual 
> attention to where my replies are going, is there something that should be 
> changed on my client or on the server to make it more obvious that those 2 
> email addresses are (for my purposes at least?) the same?

You should probably just try to remember to check, and let those with
nothing better to do beat themselves all up if you forget.
I don't think it's life-or-death.

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Re: Proper mail headers

2006-02-05 Thread Ceri Davies


On 30 Jan 2006, at 18:36, Gerard Seibert wrote:


Duane Whitty wrote:


Hi everyone,

I wanted to check to see if I am using the proper etiquette
when filling in my headers, especially when responding to
someone's post.  Should I just let let my reply go to the
person named in Reply-To or should I reply to the list and CC
the poster, or is it the other way around?


It is usually considered incorrect to directly mail or CC a
response to a poster unless they specifically requested it.


The etiquette on all the FreeBSD lists has long been to reply to the  
list *and* the poster.


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Re: what am I doing wrong with edquota ?

2006-02-04 Thread Ceri Davies


On 29 Jan 2006, at 22:56, Ensel Sharon wrote:


edquota -u -e /mnt/fs1:810:900:81:90 test200


Looks fine.  Things to check:

Do any other quotas work?
Is the filesystem mounted with the appropriate quota options?
Do you have QUOTA support in your kernel?
Does /mnt/fs1/quota.user or /mnt/fs1/quota.group exist?
Does "quotacheck -a" fix it?

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Re: inetd and security

2006-01-26 Thread Ceri Davies


On 25 Jan 2006, at 01:09, Playnet wrote:


Hello freebsd-questions,

  What better for security reasons?
Inetd, xinetd, standalone? As sample -- vsftpd.
As i know, inetd insecure and deprecated. But what better, xinetd or
standalone?


There's nothing inherently insecure about inetd, and I think that
our implementation is just fine.

As for {x,}inetd vs standalone, that depends entirely on your kind
of load.

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Re: Submit a bug for broken PicoBSD Dummynet/bridge?

2006-01-24 Thread Ceri Davies
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 09:24:00AM -0700, Tyler T wrote:
> > > I still get this error
> > > when trying to make a PicoBSD Dummynet bridge floppy
> > >
> > > http://i1.tinypic.com/mhwvux.gif
> 
> > That depends if you rolled your own crunchgen configuration or not.
> > Are you following a standard document to do this?
> 
> Thanks for the reply!! I'm using
> 
> http://people.freebsd.org/~picobsd/picobsd/doc/how2build.html

That document could do with deleting.  Could you take a look at
http://www.freebsd.org/projects/nanobsd/index.html and see if it fits
any better; PicoBSD should be considered obsolete.

Cheers,

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Re: Submit a bug for broken PicoBSD Dummynet/bridge?

2006-01-24 Thread Ceri Davies


On 23 Jan 2006, at 21:27, Tyler T wrote:


I posted about this earlier but no replies. Since then I wiped my hard
drive and reinstalled FreeBSD 6 from scratch. I still get this error
when trying to make a PicoBSD Dummynet bridge floppy

http://i1.tinypic.com/mhwvux.gif

Should I go ahead and submit a bug for it?



That depends if you rolled your own crunchgen configuration or not.
Are you following a standard document to do this?

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Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-22 Thread Ceri Davies


On 18 Jan 2006, at 17:17, Nikolas Britton wrote:


On 1/17/06, Philip Hallstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The computer is currently without keyboard, mouse or monitor.  I am
adding applications to the computer via ssh while I work.  As  
soon as I

get openbox and tightvnc installed, I'll switch to tightvnc so I can
disconnect without disrupting jobs.  (Hmm, I wonder if I'll have  
to add

a mouse or keyboard at that point.)


/usr/ports/sysutils/screen

Screen is a full-screen window manager that multiplexes a physical
terminal between several processes (typically interactive shells).  
Each
virtual terminal provides the functions of a DEC VT100 terminal  
and, in
addition, several control functions from the ANSI X3.64 (ISO 6429)  
and ISO
2022 standards (e.g. insert/delete line and support for multiple  
character
sets). There is a scrollback history buffer for each virtual  
terminal and

a copy-and-paste mechanism that allows moving text regions between
windows.


nohup foobar > ~/foobar.log& tail -f ~/foobar.log


If you think that is even vaguely equivalent to screen, then I cannot
suggest strongly enough that you actually try it.

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Re: information about distribution

2006-01-22 Thread Ceri Davies


On 19 Jan 2006, at 15:20, Martin Rolinec wrote:


Hello.

I would like to make a web page on which I would like to sale Linux  
distibution to people, who don´t have an opportunity to download it  
from internet.


So I have few questions about a licence:

1. I would like to ask, if I can download the CD images from your
   distribution (iso-cd-dvd, live iso and so on) and offer them for
   sale on my web page, thus if I can spread your distibution legaly
   for a minimal charges?

2. CDs and DVDs I would like to sale with CD printing.../with Buble
   Jet printer/. So I would like to ask you, if I can use your LOGO
   and the LOGO of distibution and a color combination of your
   distribution on the CD printing.

PS: Of course with using of your LOGO and the color combination I  
regard all rights and duties involved in copyright.


So, every customer, who will buy your distribution will be notified  
in writing, that:


1. distribution is dowloaded from web, from your ISO images

2. distribution is burned

3. the price of CD or DVD does not include the technical support in
   all forms from you .

4. customer will be informed, that your LOGO, color and the name of
   distribution is subject to your author´s right

5. customer will be informed, that the CD was burned by me, so I will
   bear all problems coupled with its malfuncion.


Thank you for your answers and I hope, that I will be able to  
spread your distribution without biggest problems.




Martin,

You can use the ISOs as long as you follow the terms at
http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/license.html.

Use of the daemon mascot requires that you obtain permission
from Marshall Kirk McKusick, as per the entry at
http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html.

The "spacehopper" logo should be considered off-limits for now,
as we are still awaiting legal work regarding it.

We would appreciate it if you contributed a percentage of the proceeds
to the FreeBSD Foundation (http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/) in order
to help with further work, but you do not have to.

As another poster pointed out, please don't call FreeBSD Linux; it's
a different beast altogether.

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Re: urgent, agir vite

2006-01-22 Thread Ceri Davies


On 18 Jan 2006, at 10:47, Roland Romero wrote:


on dirait qu'il y a un bug là :
http://www.fr.freebsd.org/cgi/search.cgi? 
max=25&source=www&words=TurboGX&submit=Rechercher

ça affiche tout le code perl !


Rol,

My French has withered to nothing since I studied it 12 years
ago, so I hope you can understand my reply,

We generally don't expect our mirror sites to run the CGI scripts.
The code is not sensitive as it is publicly available in CVS, and
this situation is actually very common on our mirrors.  However,
the mirrors are supposed to point all CGI links to www.FreeBSD.org;
if you could us know where the link to the above was found, then
we can work on fixing the misdirection.

Cheers,

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Re: OS use rate

2006-01-14 Thread Ceri Davies


On 14 Jan 2006, at 13:33, n-n wrote:


OS use rate in my project.
2005/01/10 - 2006/01/10
RedHat Enterprise Linux ES3.0 - 3947
RedHat Enterprise Linux AS3.0 - 1287
Sun Solaris 9 - 583
*BSD - 0


What project is that then?  If you can't be bothered to tell us
what you are talking about, then don't be surprised if you fall
into everyone's killfiles.  Whoops, there you go already.

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Re: Setquota on FreeBSD 4.11

2006-01-14 Thread Ceri Davies


On 14 Jan 2006, at 10:53, Don O'Neil wrote:

I'm having problems getting the port 'setquota' to work on my FBSD  
4.11

box...

When I type:

setquota -g -f /array01 -bh51200K root

I get

setquota : /array01 does not have quotas enabled.

Or when I type:

setquota -u -f /array01 -bh51200K root

I get

setquota : GETQUOTA(root) - Invalid argument

Even though I have built the kernel w/ the option, enabled quotas  
in rc,

etc...

quota -v shows:

Disk quotas for user root (uid 0):
 Filesystem   usage   quota   limit   grace   files   quota
limit

grace
   /array01   0   0   0   0
0   0


I can edit quotas using edquota no problems.

I had to build setquota from sources, as the port package for 4.11  
isn't

available anymore.

Any ideas what might be going on here?


I'm not familiar with the setquota port, but it's possible that the  
*quota files
in /array01 are missing.  Running quotacheck will fix that if it's  
the case.


Ceri
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  -- Alice




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Re: It is old.

2006-01-14 Thread Ceri Davies


On 14 Jan 2006, at 13:22, n-n wrote:


Everyone says that FreeBSD is old.
Hereafter, many people will say that Linux and OpenSolaris are
good.


I'm sorry, what are you talking about?

Ceri

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Re: Getting latest files with cvsweb for a given tag

2006-01-14 Thread Ceri Davies


On 14 Jan 2006, at 01:42, RW wrote:

Is there a cvsweb URL that will give me the latest version of a  
given file,

given a specific tag? ie  without specifying a explicit revision.

What I am trying to do is write a script that will download the  
latest version
of  src/sys/conf/newvers.sh for RELENG_6_0, so it can parse out the  
version

information and compare it with the output of uname -r.


http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/sys/conf/ 
newvers.sh?rev=RELENG_6_0


It's probably easier to use anonymous CVS, although  
anoncvs.FreeBSD.org doesn't seem to be carrying our tree at the moment.


Ceri


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Re: NIC bonding/teaming

2006-01-13 Thread Ceri Davies


On 13 Jan 2006, at 20:22, jim feldman wrote:

Does 6.x have a nic bonding/teaming/failover feature like the linux  
bond (rnd robin, failover, ld bal, trunking)?  I'm thinking  
multiple nics, one server, same lan/vlan.  I've read up on CARP and  
one2many, but they don't seem to do what bond does.




I think you want ng_one2many(4).

Ceri


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Re: defaultroute not loading

2006-01-13 Thread Ceri Davies


On 13 Jan 2006, at 12:49, Ceri Davies wrote:



On 12 Jan 2006, at 23:37, Michael Zimmer wrote:



  I just updated a i386 gateway to 6.0-STABLE - using my backed-up
  versions [from 5.1] of:

  rc.conf
  rc.firewall
  rc.resume
  rc.sendmail
  rc.shutdown
  rc.subr
  rc.suspend
  resolv.conf
  sysctl.conf
  ipnat.rules
  ipf.rules

  ...and the default route won't load on boot, although it is  
specified
  in rc.conf (replace all non-comment #'s and 1.2.3.4 with  
appropriate

  numbers)

  hostname="#.com"
  defaultrouter=1.2.3.4  # previously "1.2.3.4";  
removed



Could you post the output of "sh -x /etc/rc.d/routing start"?
Please try to resist editing it too.

Is this working for anyone on 6.0-STABLE?  I don't see anywhere
in /etc where the default route is actually installed.


Ignore me, there's nothing wrong.  At least not with FreeBSD... :-/

Ceri



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Re: defaultroute not loading

2006-01-13 Thread Ceri Davies


On 13 Jan 2006, at 14:16, Stijn Hoop wrote:


Hi,

On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 12:49:07PM +, Ceri Davies wrote:

On 12 Jan 2006, at 23:37, Michael Zimmer wrote:

 hostname="#.com"
 defaultrouter=1.2.3.4  # previously "1.2.3.4";  
removed


Could you post the output of "sh -x /etc/rc.d/routing start"?
Please try to resist editing it too.

Is this working for anyone on 6.0-STABLE?  I don't see anywhere
in /etc where the default route is actually installed.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] <~> grep defaultrouter /etc/rc.conf
defaultrouter="131.155.68.1"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <~> netstat -rn | grep default
default131.155.68.1   UGS 0   484325xl0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <~> bsdver
FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p1 #2: Mon Jan  2 12:07:31 CET 2006

No other interfaces, so I'd say it works for me.


Thank the gods for that.  Could you send me the output of
"sh -x /etc/rc.d/routing start" privately?

I'm rather confused regarding where this happens.

Ceri


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