Re: Spam control (was: Let People Find You in Google!)

2013-09-08 Thread Graham Todd
There has indeed been a higher spam:ham ratio on this list of late, 
however making it subscriber-only won't help. The crims need only
spoof the address of someone subscribed to the list to bypass that,
and I suspect a few spammers have registered using false addresses
anyway (leading to a bounce to anyone posting).

Piping it through Spamassassin as it arrives at mx1.freebsd.org, 
although this isn't so effective against people using freemail
accounts. Closing down irresponsibly run freemail operators would be a
big help, but it's not going to happen.

If anyone wants to discuss this OFF LIST, I'm up for it.

Regards, Frank.

Count me in!

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Re: SPAM: Re: ZFS root, error 2 when mounting root

2013-02-26 Thread Chad M Stewart

I've been down this road recently with 9.1-release.  I ended up adding these 
lines to end of my script


## The next two are hacks in my book, without the last line, on reboot
## it gets stuck trying to find zfs:zroot/ROOT, but somehow the -f or reboot 
fixes
# this quirk
zpool export zroot
zpool import -f zroot
reboot

Without the altroot it replaces the live CD mounts, and basically renders the 
system pointless, except that it works on reboot.  :)   I tried all sorts of 
other ways to make it work, mounting zroot and specifying a cache file, then cp 
the file over, etc., nothing I did worked except the above.  There is probably 
a cleaner/better way but I was not able to find it.


-Chad
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Re: SPAM: Re: ZFS root, error 2 when mounting root

2013-02-26 Thread bw.mail.lists

On 02/26/2013 04:31 PM, Chad M Stewart wrote:


I've been down this road recently with 9.1-release.  I ended up adding these 
lines to end of my script


## The next two are hacks in my book, without the last line, on reboot
## it gets stuck trying to find zfs:zroot/ROOT, but somehow the -f or reboot 
fixes
# this quirk
zpool export zroot
zpool import -f zroot
reboot

Without the altroot it replaces the live CD mounts, and basically renders the 
system pointless, except that it works on reboot.  :)   I tried all sorts of 
other ways to make it work, mounting zroot and specifying a cache file, then cp 
the file over, etc., nothing I did worked except the above.  There is probably 
a cleaner/better way but I was not able to find it.



I seem to remember trying that too, forced import, but after an 
unsuccessful reboot, not at the end of the script. It didn't work for 
me. Anyway, thanks for the answers, it's a bit more clear now.


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Re: SPAM: Re: ZFS root, error 2 when mounting root

2013-02-25 Thread dweimer

On 02/25/2013 10:00 am, bw wrote:


That was my understanding, too, but the instructions on the wiki say 
there's no need to copy the cache file. In fact, there is no cache 
file to copy, since the pool is created with


zpool create -o altroot=/mnt -O canmount=off zroot mirror 
/dev/gpt/g0zfs /dev/gpt/g1zfs


No cache file. The wiki article was changed recently to eliminate 
that part, the message on the wiki is: Fix so that the default 
instructions does not install data directly to the zroot pool. 
Simplify instructions regarding cache files, they are no longer 
needed. Fixes and cleanups.


Either the instructions are wrong, or something in my script is. I 
assume it's my script.


	The instructions noted above are now INCORRECT for 9.0 (I have not 
tried this with 9.1 yet) as you MUST manually put the zpool.cache file 
in place for it to work correctly (I tried a couple different 
variations when I first setup my systems a few months ago and learned 
this the hard way :-) I have *lost* of experience with ZFS under 
Solaris 10 but am relatively new (about a year) to FreeBSD.


I tried it on 9.1, failed to specify.


There is a change coming down through the stable or current channel, 
that doesn't require the zpool.cache file.  But I don't believe that it 
has made it's to any of the releases.  I haven't been able to track down 
the original message yet, but here is some of the relevant text from a 
reply on the freebsd-stable mailing list, the subject of the thread is 
[HEADSUP] zfs root pool mounting, if you chose to search for it on 
your own.



on 28/11/2012 20:35 Andriy Gapon said the following:


Recently some changes were made to how a root pool is opened for 
root filesystem
mounting.  Previously the root pool had to be present in 
zpool.cache.  Now it is

automatically discovered by probing available GEOM providers.
The new scheme is believed to be more flexible.  For example, it 
allows to prepare
a new root pool at one system, then export it and then boot from it 
on a new
system without doing any extra/magical steps with zpool.cache.  It 
could also be

convenient after zpool split and in some other situations.

The change was introduced via multiple commits, the latest relevant 
revision in
head is r243502.  The changes are partially MFC-ed, the remaining 
parts are

scheduled to be MFC-ed soon.


--
Thanks,
   Dean E. Weimer
   http://www.dweimer.net/
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Re: SPAM-flag on FBSD list

2013-01-14 Thread Thomas Mueller
FreeBSD emailing lists are not spammers, though they let some spams through 
that their filters miss.

Insight Cable uses synacor.com spam-filtering (dis)service that the Insight 
Cable user can't turn off.

This remedy is worse than the disease in my case because it causes bounces, and 
then my list membership is disabled.

Just a few days ago, I switched my FreeBSD lists email address back to the 
old-but-still-working ATT-Yahoo bellsouth.net email.

But synacor.com only filtered out a small percentage of FreeBSD list messages, 
some but not all of which were spams.

Tom
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Re: SPAM-flag on FBSD list

2013-01-13 Thread Christopher J. Ruwe
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:06:50 -0500
Joe Altman free...@chthonixia.net wrote:

 
 On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 04:48:06PM +0100, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote:
  
  Hello,
  
  while testing a new mail configuration on freebsd-test@, I noticed a
  very interesting part in the header, which I just paste
  
  Old-X-HE-Spam-Score: -2.3
  Old-X-HE-Spam-Report: Content analysis details:   (-2.3 points)
pts rule name  description
    --
  -- -2.3
  RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED  RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/,
  medium trust [8.8.178.116 listed in list.dnswl.org]
 
 From the org's web page:
 
 dnswl.org: DNS Whitelist - Protect against false positives
 
 What is dnswl.org?
 
 Dnswl.org is the leading whitelist provider for email filtering. It
 has over 80'000 users and contains more than 150'000 entries of good
 mailservers. 
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Thanks for the explanation, the wl part of the domain and the negative
number escaped me completly. 

Sorry for the noise, cheers,
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Re: Spam and more spam

2012-10-21 Thread Warren Block

On Sun, 21 Oct 2012, Erich Dollansky wrote:


could t be that everybody can post now on this list without being
registered and without having administrator's approval?


It actually has been that way forever.  There may be certain rules that 
trigger moderation in some cases, but usually not.  The reason for the 
open list is that questions@ has been given as a support address in 
documents, and some feel that should remain open.



Should we move to a list where only registered users can write just to
avoid the spam problem and not forcing a human to approve all e-mails
from addresses which are not registered?


The forums are that way already: http://forums.freebsd.org
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Re: Spam and more spam.

2012-10-12 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi Gary,

On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:03:49 -0700
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:49:34AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
  On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:43:13 -0700
  Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
  
   On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 01:27:30PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
 im getting too aged [and achy and cranky:)] to sleep
   well, 
  
  oh, do you have a Windows machine secretly running somewhere? I
  would not be able to sleep then either.
 
 
   ha!  never, never have I bought even one dos/doze computer.
 my daughter was given an old [1998] w2k box that she played games on.
   it is long-gone:)

you do not even know then what these people go through.
  
  Let me see what you got.
  
 
   yup, exactly.  these sorry, pathetic guys see an easy way to
   spam and do it.  ... .
 
They have meet month's end.

They needed the money ...

Erich
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Re: Spam and more spam.

2012-10-11 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 05:06:11PM -1000, Al Plant wrote:
 Erich Dollansky wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:39:12 +1100
 andrew clarke m...@ozzmosis.com wrote:
 
 On Wed 2012-10-10 10:16:35 UTC+0200, René Mercier
 (realmo.merc...@gmail.com) wrote:
 
 Bonjour,
 
 Je suis sous Debian, mais travaillant dans les réseaux, je
 souhaiterai passer sur FreeBsd pour sa stabilité et pour sa
 sécurité,, je vois qu'actuellement il y une 9 rc1, pourriez vous
 s'il vous plait me dire quelle la prochaine release à venir et sa
 date de sortie
 http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html
 
 PS. This is an English-speaking mailing list.
 
 I wonder how many people did what I did an classified this as spam.
 
 Erich
 ___
 
 Aloha Erich,
 
 I'm getting SPAM on the FreeBSD list for a couple of days now.
 In several languages including Chinese and French as well as English.
 
 Doesnt our list have a way to block so much of this?
 
 ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii -  Phone:  808-284-2740
   + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +
   + http://aloha50.net   - Supporting - FreeBSD  7.2 - 8.0 - 9* +
email: n...@hdk5.net 
 All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol
 

aloha al!

I have been getting arabic, vchinese, french, and other spam in recent
weeks.  Ugh!!  dont know how it is getting thru godaddy's filters, but
it is.

gary


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Re: Spam and more spam.

2012-10-11 Thread Erich Dollansky
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(envelope-from owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org)
Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52])
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:04:48 -0700
From: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org
To: Al Plant n...@hdk5.net
Subject: Re: Spam and more spam.
Message-ID: 20121011060448.ga14...@ethic.thought.org
References:
ca+tgwha3kpnci5w2yrxfb9_ih-j+t_futpbvglmcmnufs-c...@mail.gmail.com
20121010083911.ga4...@ozzmosis.com
20121010154957.11f9d...@x220.ovitrap.com 507637a3.1030...@hdk5.net
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: 507637a3.1030...@hdk5.net
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)
Cc: Erich Dollansky er...@alogreentechnologies.com,
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14
Precedence: list
List-Id: User questions freebsd-questions.freebsd.org
List-Unsubscribe:
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions,
mailto:freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe
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List-Post: mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Help:
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List-Subscribe:
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions,
mailto:freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Errors-To:
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X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by
alogreentechnologies.com id q9B67nvS032260 X-UIDL: (B8!!n^Y!!k*h!!hjE!

This looks to me that both senders are registered with FreeBSD.org. The
only other alternative would be that it is now possible to send
messages to the list directly without registration.

I do not believe that the PCs of people here running Windows are
abused. It just does not look like.

Erich
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Re: Spam and more spam.

2012-10-11 Thread Gary Kline
...@freebsd.org List-Help:
 mailto:freebsd-stable-requ...@freebsd.org?subject=help
 List-Subscribe:
 http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable,
 mailto:freebsd-stable-requ...@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding:
 7bit Errors-To: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org Sender:
 owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org X-UIDL: 09H!!C*!!J26!!~f,#!
 
 while yours looks like this:
 
 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
 Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [69.147.83.53])
   by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id
 q9B67nvS032260 for erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com; Thu, 11 Oct 2012
 00:07:49 -0600 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org
 [8.8.178.136]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9BB81A9065;
   Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:07:36 + (UTC)
 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [8.8.178.136])
   by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF3A7B3;
   Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:07:34 + (UTC)
   (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org)
 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52])
  by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD24A75B
  for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:07:26 +
 (UTC) (envelope-from kl...@thought.org)
 Received: from m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net
  (m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.4])
  by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D6B8FC0A
  for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:07:26 +
 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org ([209.180.213.209])
  by m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with 
  id 9i4o1k00D4XeM0101i4pXU; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:04:49 -0700
 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:04:48 -0700
 From: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org
 To: Al Plant n...@hdk5.net
 Subject: Re: Spam and more spam.
 Message-ID: 20121011060448.ga14...@ethic.thought.org
 References:
 ca+tgwha3kpnci5w2yrxfb9_ih-j+t_futpbvglmcmnufs-c...@mail.gmail.com
 20121010083911.ga4...@ozzmosis.com
 20121010154957.11f9d...@x220.ovitrap.com 507637a3.1030...@hdk5.net
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Disposition: inline
 In-Reply-To: 507637a3.1030...@hdk5.net
 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)
 Cc: Erich Dollansky er...@alogreentechnologies.com,
 freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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 List-Post: mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Help:
 mailto:freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org?subject=help
 List-Subscribe:
 http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions,
 mailto:freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Errors-To:
 owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Sender:
 owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by
 alogreentechnologies.com id q9B67nvS032260 X-UIDL: (B8!!n^Y!!k*h!!hjE!
 
 This looks to me that both senders are registered with FreeBSD.org. The
 only other alternative would be that it is now possible to send
 messages to the list directly without registration.


hmm.  for the -questions list, users did not have to register or
subscribe.  unless things have changed.  and since I neither 
read nor write chinese nor arabic--simplified or otherwise, there 
is no way I could have signed up for this  spam mail.  

 
 I do not believe that the PCs of people here running Windows are
 abused. It just does not look like.
 
 Erich


looking at the postmark stuff just above, the email  to you 
from freebsd-questions looks normal.  ...apologies in advance 
for my appending the spam that I got from wherever.  it
might have been sent from Anywhere.  

=


Interesting.  until now, I've just been deleting this junk.  

recently, a friend and I switched my registrar  and I included 
my gmail mail.  my best guess is that this was sent thru google.
it then was pop'd to my fetchmail.

evidently, mutt knows  how to render this iso encoding. c, c.

it may be fixable by just editing my fetchmail.rc file.

(the next 400 lines are encoded or so much html garbage... .)

I've always used kl...@thought.org [and mutt so I can use vi[m],
but if any list-member knows if google has a spam filter---say,
from 0 to 99, I'll up it to 99!

gary

=


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Re: Spam and more spam.

2012-10-11 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi Gary,

On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:43:13 -0700
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 01:27:30PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
  Hi,
 
   hello erich and everyone,
 
   im getting too aged [and achy and cranky:)] to sleep well, 

oh, do you have a Windows machine secretly running somewhere? I would
not be able to sleep then either.

   so I am not as patient as you, erich,--or others still
 on-list. I have =not= read all the mail headers below.  but at the
 bottom of this email I will enclose an arabic [i think!] email.  if
 you can gleen anything from it, excellent.  I get other *non*-8859
   iso encoded email.  {Note that I still use mutt as my mua.
 until all this spam, I did not know that mutt could even render non-
   Latin characters.

Let me see what you got.

   for my appending the spam that I got from wherever.  it
   might have been sent from Anywhere.  

It looks to me too like it came directly to you as there is no sign of
FreeBSD have been between.
   
 
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I get hundreds of them. All get handled properly on my system except
the one coming via FreeBSd.org as my system sees FreeBSD.org as a
serious sender. This might be the reason those people try it now that
way.

Erich
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Re: Spam and more spam.

2012-10-11 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:49:34AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
 Hi Gary,
 
 On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:43:13 -0700
 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
 
  On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 01:27:30PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
   Hi,
  
  hello erich and everyone,
  
  im getting too aged [and achy and cranky:)] to sleep well, 
 
 oh, do you have a Windows machine secretly running somewhere? I would
 not be able to sleep then either.


ha!  never, never have I bought even one dos/doze computer.  my
daughter was given an old [1998] w2k box that she played games on.
it is long-gone:)
 
  so I am not as patient as you, erich,--or others still
  on-list. I have =not= read all the mail headers below.  but at the
  bottom of this email I will enclose an arabic [i think!] email.  if
  you can gleen anything from it, excellent.  I get other *non*-8859
  iso encoded email.  {Note that I still use mutt as my mua.
  until all this spam, I did not know that mutt could even render non-
  Latin characters.
 
 Let me see what you got.
 
  for my appending the spam that I got from wherever.  it
  might have been sent from Anywhere.  
 
 It looks to me too like it came directly to you as there is no sign of
 FreeBSD have been between.
  


it looks to me like this [and probably my other junk email] is
coming from the lines in my ~/.fetchmailrc that go out and 
pull in what is sent to my gmail account.  [rarely, there is
spam from one of the freebsd lists--usually questions.]  instead 
of getting mad, I just hit d and move on.  
  
  From uhrda...@googlegroups.com  Thu Oct 11 01:14:43 2012
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Re: Spam and more spam.

2012-10-10 Thread Al Plant

Erich Dollansky wrote:

Hi,

On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:39:12 +1100
andrew clarke m...@ozzmosis.com wrote:


On Wed 2012-10-10 10:16:35 UTC+0200, René Mercier
(realmo.merc...@gmail.com) wrote:


Bonjour,

Je suis sous Debian, mais travaillant dans les réseaux, je
souhaiterai passer sur FreeBsd pour sa stabilité et pour sa
sécurité,, je vois qu'actuellement il y une 9 rc1, pourriez vous
s'il vous plait me dire quelle la prochaine release à venir et sa
date de sortie

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html

PS. This is an English-speaking mailing list.


I wonder how many people did what I did an classified this as spam.

Erich

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Aloha Erich,

I'm getting SPAM on the FreeBSD list for a couple of days now.
In several languages including Chinese and French as well as English.

Doesnt our list have a way to block so much of this?

~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii -  Phone:  808-284-2740
  + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +
  + http://aloha50.net   - Supporting - FreeBSD  7.2 - 8.0 - 9* +
   email: n...@hdk5.net 
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Re: Spam and more spam.

2012-10-10 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi Al,

On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:06:11 -1000
Al Plant n...@hdk5.net wrote:

 Erich Dollansky wrote:

  I wonder how many people did what I did an classified this as spam.
 
 Aloha Erich,
 
my wife loves you. This is for sure. Why? She loves your place.

 I'm getting SPAM on the FreeBSD list for a couple of days now.
 In several languages including Chinese and French as well as English.
 
There are two kind of spams. One comes directly via the list and one
comes only to the addresses used at the list.

 Doesnt our list have a way to block so much of this?

If I use my other e-mail addresses which are not registered, I get an
message that the mail needs approval. The person who approves should
block the spam coming via the list.

But I also get some spam from people who harvested my address there. It
is still not enough to make me a special filter rule.
 
 ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii -  Phone:  808-284-2740

Even for the fact that I do not have a reason to complain, your address
sounds cool.

Erich

+ http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +
+ http://aloha50.net   - Supporting - FreeBSD  7.2 - 8.0 - 9* +
 email: n...@hdk5.net 
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Re: [spam] Equine Vaccines offered by Santa Cruz

2012-03-05 Thread Robert Bonomi

Anyone offended by this spam to the mailing-list is strongly encouraged
to call the company to complain -- TOLL FREE numbers are:
   U.S.A.   1-800-457-3801  (headquarters)
   Europe   +00800 4573 8000(Germany)
   Asia (010) 800.40402026  (Japan)
   Asia 00798.1.1.002.0297  (S. Korea)

In North America, using a pay phone costs the toll-free owner over $0.35
when they answer the call.  Keep this in mind if you have to call back 
because of a dropped connection, or other communication problem.,

There is no doubt the company actually sent the spam.  
The 'smoking gun' is that their website recognized the email address for
an 'unsubscribe' from their mailings.

The people that 'need to know' about the 'error of their ways' are the
include:
  John R Stephenson   President  CEO
  Ada Popkey  Finance director

And their
  Head of Marketing
  Head of Public Relations  or Corporate Communications.


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Re: [Spam] Fw: Merry Christmas from the FreeBSD Security Team

2011-12-23 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of December 23, 2011 5:45:42 PM +0100, Bas Smeelen is alleged to have 
said:



While I'm writing, a note to freebsd-update users:
FreeBSD-SA-11:07.chroot has a rather messy fix involving adding a new
interface to libc; this has the awkward side effect of causing the sizes
of some symbols (aka. functions) in libc to change, resulting in
cascading changes into many binaries.  The long list of updated files is
irritating, but isn't a sign that anything in freebsd-update went wrong.


--As for the rest, it is mine.

I appreciate the hard work, though I could wish it were better timed.  ;)

However, the above does worry me a bit: Is that same library change likely 
to affect ports?  Any way to tell which, if so?  (Or should I just start 
reinstalling everything...)


Daniel T. Staal

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Re: {SPAM} New games for you

2011-06-19 Thread Robert Bonomi

Anybody running procmail who is tired of this Netlog cr*p (thanks to one
Elias Shashati, who subscribed the questions mailing list to their service)
is welcome to use the procmail recipe that I have posted at:
  http://www.r-bonomi.com/procmailrecipe1.html

Original message:

 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Sun Jun 19 01:09:13 2011
 From: Netlog notification+f34709...@netlogmail.com
 To: Elias Shashati freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 06:07:46 +
 Subject: New games for you

 Hi Elias! Try out these new games!

 [[  sneck spam content  ]]

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Re: {SPAM} New games for you

2011-06-19 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 04:52:15 -0500 (CDT)
Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com articulated:

 Anybody running procmail who is tired of this Netlog cr*p (thanks to
 one Elias Shashati, who subscribed the questions mailing list to
 their service) is welcome to use the procmail recipe that I have
 posted at: http://www.r-bonomi.com/procmailrecipe1.html

Interestingly enough, WOT http://www.mywot.com/ rates that site very
poor and displays a warning when it is visited.

-- 
Jerry ✌
jerry+f...@seibercom.net

Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored.
Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header.

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Re: {SPAM} New games for you

2011-06-19 Thread Bruce Cran

On 19/06/2011 12:38, Jerry wrote:


Interestingly enough, WOThttp://www.mywot.com/  rates that site very
poor and displays a warning when it is visited.


I suspect some people like reporting sites as bad. Mine was reported as 
not safe: has the trojan virus and I had to ask Norton to re-check it 
before it marked it as OK.


--
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Re: {SPAM} New games for you

2011-06-19 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Sun Jun 19 06:38:27 2011
 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 07:38:05 -0400
 From: Jerry je...@seibercom.net
 To: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: {SPAM}  New games for you

 On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 04:52:15 -0500 (CDT)
 Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com articulated:

  Anybody running procmail who is tired of this Netlog cr*p (thanks to
  one Elias Shashati, who subscribed the questions mailing list to
  their service) is welcome to use the procmail recipe that I have
  posted at: http://www.r-bonomi.com/procmailrecipe1.html

 Interestingly enough, WOT http://www.mywot.com/ rates that site very
 poor and displays a warning when it is visited.

*SIGH* 

Proof one should _not_ trust WOT ratings when they are based on small numbers
of reports.  In this instance, a 'sample size' of *ONE*.

Fact: there was _never_ any 'phishing' page on my server, as the user report
  claims.  What there -was-, was a copy of an eBay/Paypal ERROR PAGE, with
  the *only* distribution of that URL to eBay/Paypal customer support (by
  telephone) for purposes of resolving the problem that error page 
  demonstrated.

The 'vendor reliability' rating is meaningless, Assuming that that WOT user
making the rtingknew anyting about the vendor, which is unlikely :).  The 
machine intentinally mis-reports its vendor identity as a company that went
out of existance more than a decade ago.  Reported application versions are 
similar mis-directon.  The machine, itself, armor-plated and diamond-coated.
It is proof against _any_ attack other than 'denial of service' -- regardless
of any software vulnerabilites, *undiscovered* or otherwise.  All media with 
executables, or non-volatile data (like web pages),  are (hardware enforced)
read-only, and all writable media are flagged by the kernel such that any 
attempt to 'execute' any content from that media is disallowed. Even _I_ 
can't change anything without taking the machine off-line and into single-
user mode.  I can give _you_ console access *and* the super-user password,
the _worst_ you can do is denial of service.  grin

The other 'ratings' by that single user are similarly laughable. He has
no way of knowing anything about any of them.


All that said, thanks for the heads-up about mywot.com.  I've never heard
of them before this.  


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Re: spam?

2011-03-14 Thread Chris Brennan
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote:

In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 353, Issue 11, Message: 4
 On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:57:03 + Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote:
   On Sun, 2011-03-13 at 06:49 -0500, ajtiM wrote:
In the last week I got four emails like this one today:
   
From: a href=mailto:br...@cran.org.uk;br...@cran.org.uk/abr/
To: a href=mailto:per...@pluto.rain.com;per...@pluto.rain.com
 /abr/
CC: a href=mailto:free...@edvax.de;free...@edvax.de/a, a
href=mailto:lum...@gmail.com;lum...@gmail.com/a, a href=mailto:
 freebsd-
questi...@freebsd.orgfreebsd-questions@freebsd.org

 [I guess it's a gmail option whether to quote messages with addresses
 shown as HTML urls?  Other people seem to be able to avoid doing that]

   That's not from me - it's from a company called ParkLogic who are
   forging emails.  See
  
 http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2010-12/msg00591.htmlfor
  more details.

 G'day Bruce,

 unfortunately trying to follow that through by 'next in thread' on
 derkeiler.com lands at a message that they've censored, declaring:

  Error 410: The page you requested has been removed
  The page you requested has been removed due to inappropriate content.

 From there, they leave you no way to finish the thread, in particular to
 my detailed wannabe FAQ - in reply to you, as it happened - on how folks
 might solve this issue at:


 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-December/225226.html

 That report may or may not help gmail users, as Chris Brennan reported
 gmail provides no way to filter on message headers such as Message-ID,
 still at least it shows how to determine that these messages are indeed
 forgeries.  Maybe by now parklogic realise that targetting gmail users
 will cause the most mischief?  Evil doesn't necessarily mean stupid ..

 As for derkeiler.com's apparently arbitrary censorship, you can see the
 message they removed, two messages before mine by thread, here:


 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-December/225236.html

 Apart from charging Svein Skogen with 'signature too long' :) I can't
 imagine why they or their robot might have taken offense.  At least at
 lists.freebsd.org only something pretty extreme may provoke our esteemed
 postmaster into removing a message, and there's less obfuscation there
 of email addresses (like parklogic.com) .. for better or worse.

 cheers, Ian


Good job Ian! I was looking for that but hadn't had time to sit down and
actually find it and you beat me to the punch. ajtiM, it boils down to two
choices with GMail;

1) Continue to use the web-interface (I do) and live with this spam and just
delete the message (take care to not mark it as spam, while GMail's SPAM
filter is smart, it is by no means intelligent, marking it as spam would
flag more then just *THAT* e-mail's headers as spam, it would flag the whole
thread, including f-q@.)

2) Your second option would require you to turn pop3/impa4 support on in
GMail and set up a client with more advanced filter support, or you could
set up some combination of fetchmail/procmail/SOME APP TO FETCH MAIL FROM
GMAIL, manipulate it to filter out the spam you don't like and then throw
up a local web-interface for your mail or use a local client such as mutt.

-- 
Did you know...
If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages,

but what's worse is when you play it forward
  ...it installs Windows 2000

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Re: spam?

2011-03-13 Thread Bruce Cran
On Sun, 2011-03-13 at 06:49 -0500, ajtiM wrote:
 In the last week I got four emails like this one today:
 
 From: a href=mailto:br...@cran.org.uk;br...@cran.org.uk/abr/
 To: a href=mailto:per...@pluto.rain.com;per...@pluto.rain.com/abr/
 CC: a href=mailto:free...@edvax.de;free...@edvax.de/a, a 
 href=mailto:lum...@gmail.com;lum...@gmail.com/a, a href=mailto:freebsd-
 questi...@freebsd.orgfreebsd-questions@freebsd.org

That's not from me - it's from a company called ParkLogic who are
forging emails.  See
http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2010-12/msg00591.html 
for more details.

-- 
Bruce Cran

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Re: spam?

2011-03-13 Thread Ian Smith
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 353, Issue 11, Message: 4
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:57:03 + Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote:
  On Sun, 2011-03-13 at 06:49 -0500, ajtiM wrote:
   In the last week I got four emails like this one today:
   
   From: a href=mailto:br...@cran.org.uk;br...@cran.org.uk/abr/
   To: a href=mailto:per...@pluto.rain.com;per...@pluto.rain.com/abr/
   CC: a href=mailto:free...@edvax.de;free...@edvax.de/a, a 
   href=mailto:lum...@gmail.com;lum...@gmail.com/a, a 
   href=mailto:freebsd-
   questi...@freebsd.orgfreebsd-questions@freebsd.org

[I guess it's a gmail option whether to quote messages with addresses 
shown as HTML urls?  Other people seem to be able to avoid doing that]

  That's not from me - it's from a company called ParkLogic who are
  forging emails.  See
  http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2010-12/msg00591.html
   for more details.

G'day Bruce,

unfortunately trying to follow that through by 'next in thread' on 
derkeiler.com lands at a message that they've censored, declaring:

 Error 410: The page you requested has been removed
 The page you requested has been removed due to inappropriate content.

From there, they leave you no way to finish the thread, in particular to 
my detailed wannabe FAQ - in reply to you, as it happened - on how folks 
might solve this issue at:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-December/225226.html

That report may or may not help gmail users, as Chris Brennan reported 
gmail provides no way to filter on message headers such as Message-ID, 
still at least it shows how to determine that these messages are indeed 
forgeries.  Maybe by now parklogic realise that targetting gmail users 
will cause the most mischief?  Evil doesn't necessarily mean stupid ..

As for derkeiler.com's apparently arbitrary censorship, you can see the 
message they removed, two messages before mine by thread, here:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-December/225236.html

Apart from charging Svein Skogen with 'signature too long' :) I can't 
imagine why they or their robot might have taken offense.  At least at 
lists.freebsd.org only something pretty extreme may provoke our esteemed 
postmaster into removing a message, and there's less obfuscation there 
of email addresses (like parklogic.com) .. for better or worse.

cheers, Ian
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RE: Spam Rules, per argument (Re: Any package for surveys?)

2011-01-28 Thread Gary Gatten
snip

OMFG... how much longer are we going to keep commenting on this worthless 
thread? And now the debian list too?  That's great...

Dear Hijacker:  You are the superior one, all others are inferior.  You are 
right, all others are wrong.  Please go away.  Perhaps preach your wisdom to 
a more receptive audience, such as your stuffed toy animals.  You know, the 
ones you keep in your Mommies basement where you live?

Thank you for enlightening all of us with your superior wisdom.  Have a great 
life.

G






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Re: Spam Rules, per argument (Re: Any package for surveys?)

2011-01-28 Thread elbbit
On 28/01/11 16:15, Robert Bonomi wrote:
 From elb...@gmail.com  Fri Jan 28 08:59:21 2011
 On 28/01/11 12:28, Robert Bonomi wrote:
 see: http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/rulesofspam.shtmld
 Rule #0: Spam is theft.
 Mail servers are offering a service.  If you don't want to receive 
spam stop offering the service.
 Angel's Commentary: Spammers believe it's okay to steal a little 
bit from each person on the Internet at once.
 Stealing... taking without consent... hey, you offered to deliver
 some mail for me.
 LIE.
What?  Now you are saying that you didn't offer to send the mail for me?
 You just received THIS email so you are STILL offering the service of
reception to me.

 The mailing list operator offered to deliver mail for a SPECIFIC
 PURPOSE.  You _disregarded_ that purpose.
Please identify the purpose if it is not discussion.  We are
discussing spam, are we not?

 Rule #1: Spammers lie.
 Assumptive.  Just like when you lose something you assume it may be
 gone for ever, but wait, no, there it is, you left it in your
 pocket.  Assumptions can be wrong as well as right.
 Your  are a spammer.
Assumptive.  I could label you back, but I am able to control my emotions.

 you lied. see above.  Q.E.D.
I'm not going to repeat something which has already been done.  This is
the equivalent of making a journey from my office to the mail box twice
just to deliver a single envelope.

 The rest of your 'analysis' simply proves Shar's Commentary.
Who is Shar?  And what did they comment?  A reference please.  I tried a
Google search for this, but it is too vague.

 Enjoy the fruits of your labors.
I don't work like you do.  I live in a world without money, without
rules and restrictions, without deadlines and targets.  I don't labour
anything - I leisure everything.

Simon


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Re: Spam Rules, per argument (Re: Any package for surveys?)

2011-01-28 Thread Chris Brennan
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:22 AM, elbbit elb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't work like you do.  I live in a world without money, without
 rules and restrictions, without deadlines and targets.  I don't labour
 anything - I leisure everything.


So Simon, you must be the poor man I pass on the street every day and give
Quarters to for coffee?

Here is a label for you to chew on YOU ARE A SPAMMER! *THIS* list is for
FreeBSD-related questions not for you to shove your inflammatory words down
our throats. You've made your point, now please go away. No one *ON THIS
LIST* wants to read your words, we no longer care about your opinion or what
it means because you clearly don't care about our opinion for you to change
the subject and get on a topic for this list.

Speaking of topics ... just because a mailing list is open for you to send
mail to DOES NOT MEAN YOU CAN SPAM IT WITH NONSENSE! freebsd-questions
has a purpose and it would be wise for you to adhere to it, there are also
rules of etiquette which you should also adhere to.

Each piece of mail you have sent has been reported to your ISP/Carrier. Each
piece of mail you continue to send will lodge you yet another complaint. I
will continue to do this till I piss your ISP/Carrier off SO bad, they are
left with two choices  nullroute me or deal with you  since I have
many thousands of domains at my disposal, I think, from a business
perspective, they will choose to cut you off, cold-turkey then deal w/ the
technical resources required to continue to block me, also if enough other
people from both the freebsd and debian lists complain, your ISP/Carrier may
even choose to seek legal action from you. You *are* in violation of your
agreement, a legally binding contract in your country of origin and the
ISP/Carrier.

Simon, do not reply, we no longer wish to here your dribble and we
so desperately wish for you to crawl back into the hole whence you came.
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Re: Spam Rules, per argument (Re: Any package for surveys?)

2011-01-28 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi,
 OMFG... how much longer are we going to keep commenting on this
 worthless thread? And now the debian list too?  That's great...

Agreed :-)

Debian list dropped as cross posting bad.
Individual cc's dropped as one is the troll,  other don't need copies.

For those new to this FreeBSD list who may not know yet, 
there are generaly 3 ways of rescuing FreeBSD lists:
- People reply to troll: Please move to c...@freebsd.org
- Or post to list: Please don't feed the troll (Then others cease replying).
- /Or report to postmas...@freebsd.org, asking that the troll be added
  to black list, as postings not relevant to FreeBSD list.

Cheers,
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Re: Spam Rules, per argument (Re: Any package for surveys?)

2011-01-28 Thread elbbit
On 28/01/11 16:07, Gary Gatten wrote:
 snip
Oh dear.

 OMFG... how much longer are we going to keep commenting on this 
 worthless thread?
Hmm.  Worthless... without value... an entity lacking substance.  Hmm.
This thread was started by me.  Now let me see, yes, I still have my
arms and legs.  Which must logically mean I have substance.  And I have
spent my time since birth learning about the world around me and
embracing it.  From all the information I have learnt about life and
other people, I believe I have substance.  And, as a result, my
creations (my emails) are born from that substance.  I forgive you.

 And now the debian list too?  That's great...
I think you underestimate the size of the problem I am highlighting:
forgetting money.

 Dear Hijacker:  You are the superior one, all others are inferior.
You are incorrect.  I am the same as everyone else, just as you are.

 You are right, all others are wrong.
Try not to see things as a case of right or wrong.  Instead, try to
realise the truth: people spend their time differently.  Your brain is
only as reliable as the information you have fed into it, and based on
that information, you make decisions.

 Please go away.
You may succeed in silencing me as an individual, but you will not
silence the growing Zeitgeist movement which is happening all around us.

 Perhaps preach your wisdom to a more receptive audience,
I think some people on these lists are questioning this thread, maybe
even doing their own Google searches to learn for themselves.  These are
the people who will embrace the new world without money, whilst others
who close their minds and only accept the old will be left behind.  Just
as the horse gave way to the motor car, so will money be left behind.

 such as your stuffed toy animals.
I don't own any, though my woman has a few.  It's a girl thing I think.

 You know, the ones you keep in your Mommies basement where you live?
I live in my own house, I eat my own food and I am very happy with my
life.  Making assumptions is not a reliable way to make decisions and
learn new information.

 Thank you for enlightening all of us with your superior wisdom.
I am not superior.  I have spent my time differently.

 Have a great life.
I already have a great life, and together, we could make it even better.

 This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient
 and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential.
 If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that
 any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email
 and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited.  If you have 
 received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender
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 ^^^ How can I delete your words from the internal memory in my brain,
once I have read them?

Simon


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Re: Spam Rules, per argument (Re: Any package for surveys?)

2011-01-28 Thread Chris Brennan

 I came from my mother, just as you came from yours.  I am not sorry you
 are unable to accept that my opinion differs from yours, and I hope that
 we resolve this.


I came from a test tube.
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Re: Spam Rules, per argument (Re: Any package for surveys?)

2011-01-28 Thread owens



 Original Message 
From: elb...@gmail.com
To: ggat...@waddell.com
Subject: Re: Spam Rules, per argument (Re: Any package for surveys?)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:43:12 +

On 28/01/11 16:07, Gary Gatten wrote:
 snip
Oh dear.

 OMFG... how much longer are we going to keep commenting on this 
 worthless thread?
Hmm.  Worthless... without value... an entity lacking substance. 
Hmm.
This thread was started by me.  Now let me see, yes, I still have my
arms and legs.  Which must logically mean I have substance.  And I
have
spent my time since birth learning about the world around me and
embracing it.  From all the information I have learnt about life and
other people, I believe I have substance.  And, as a result, my
creations (my emails) are born from that substance.  I forgive you.

 And now the debian list too?  That's great...
I think you underestimate the size of the problem I am highlighting:
forgetting money.

 Dear Hijacker:  You are the superior one, all others are inferior.
You are incorrect.  I am the same as everyone else, just as you are.

 You are right, all others are wrong.
Try not to see things as a case of right or wrong.  Instead, try to
realise the truth: people spend their time differently.  Your brain
is
only as reliable as the information you have fed into it, and based
on
that information, you make decisions.

 Please go away.
You may succeed in silencing me as an individual, but you will not
silence the growing Zeitgeist movement which is happening all around
us.

 Perhaps preach your wisdom to a more receptive audience,
I think some people on these lists are questioning this thread,
maybe
even doing their own Google searches to learn for themselves.  These
are
the people who will embrace the new world without money, whilst
others
who close their minds and only accept the old will be left behind. 
Just
as the horse gave way to the motor car, so will money be left
behind.

 such as your stuffed toy animals.
I don't own any, though my woman has a few.  It's a girl thing I
think.

 You know, the ones you keep in your Mommies basement where you
live?
I live in my own house, I eat my own food and I am very happy with
my
life.  Making assumptions is not a reliable way to make decisions
and
learn new information.

 Thank you for enlightening all of us with your superior wisdom.
I am not superior.  I have spent my time differently.

 Have a great life.
I already have a great life, and together, we could make it even
better.

 This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended
recipient
 and may contain information that is privileged and/or
confidential.
 If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified
that
 any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this
email
 and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited.  If you have 
 received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender
 by return email and delete this email from your system.
 ^^^ How can I delete your words from the internal memory in my
brain,
once I have read them?

Simon


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I too am tired of this tripe.  However, in a world without money, how
do you pay your ISP?
L

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Re: Spam with fake address from the list?

2010-12-16 Thread Bruce Cran
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:40:35 +0100
Michelle Konzack bsd4miche...@tamay-dogan.net wrote:

 does someone get this kind of spam too?

Yes, lots of people have been getting that for a few months.
parklogic claim there's not anything they can do about it despite it
apparently coming from their servers.

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Re: Spam with fake address from the list?

2010-12-16 Thread Chris Brennan
If you search the list for the last 2 weeks you will see some extensive
posting about it. Use my name and Ian as reference points in your search.
There are a few clues there to help you squash this issue. (Sorry for the
top-post).

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On Dec 16, 2010 6:40 AM, Michelle Konzack bsd4miche...@tamay-dogan.net
wrote:
 Hello *,

 does someone get this kind of spam too?

 Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
 Michelle Konzack

 - Forwarded message from freebsd-questions@freebsd.org -

 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 07:55:59 +1100
 From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 To: Michelle Konzack bsd4miche...@tamay-dogan.net
 Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
 X-TDMailSerialnumber: 10324672

 Dear Sir/Madam,
 Your email was unable reach the intended person that you were sending
 it to.
 For more information on our business please click on the following
 link:
 [1]Click here for our website
 We look forward to your continued business in the future.
 Regards,
 Webmaster

 Verweise

 1. http://www.xpbargains.net/

 - End forwarded message -



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Re: Spam with fake address from the list?

2010-12-16 Thread Phan Quoc Hien
Yes, I'm too! Spam from the list!

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Michelle Konzack 
bsd4miche...@tamay-dogan.net wrote:

 Hello *,

 does someone get this kind of spam too?

 Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
Michelle Konzack

 - Forwarded message from freebsd-questions@freebsd.org -

 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 07:55:59 +1100
 From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 To: Michelle Konzack bsd4miche...@tamay-dogan.net
 Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
 X-TDMailSerialnumber: 10324672

   Dear Sir/Madam,
   Your email was unable reach the intended person that you were sending
   it to.
   For more information on our business please click on the following
   link:
   [1]Click here for our website
   We look forward to your continued business in the future.
   Regards,
   Webmaster

 Verweise

   1. http://www.xpbargains.net/

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Re: Spam with fake address from the list?

2010-12-16 Thread Ian Smith
Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 341, Issue 6, Message: 27
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:44:09 + Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote:
  On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:40:35 +0100
  Michelle Konzack bsd4miche...@tamay-dogan.net wrote:
  
   does someone get this kind of spam too?
  
  Yes, lots of people have been getting that for a few months.
  parklogic claim there's not anything they can do about it despite it
  apparently coming from their servers.

If you researched the mob running parklogic, I suspect you'd tend to 
give any claims they may make scant credence, to say the very least.

These forged messages were blocked inbound to the FreeBSD mailservers in 
August, but continue to be sent individually to participants harvested 
from messages posted to this list, and likely will continue to be.

Since this is becoming a FAQ:

To date all of these forged messages contain the following mail headers:

  Return-Path: anonym...@dusk.parklogic.com
  Received: from dusk.parklogic.com (allmail.0b2.net [64.38.11.26])

Having your mailserver refuse connections from IP address 64.38.11.26 or 
domain 0b2.net, or envelopes sent by parklogic.com, definitively solves 
this problem.  In sendmail /etc/mail/access syntax, use any or all of:

From:parklogic.com  REJECT
Connect:64.38.11.26 REJECT
Connect:0b2.net REJECT

For those without control over their inbound mailserver, try to block or 
filter mail based on those Return-Path: or Received: headers above, or 
on the Message-ID: header which has always contained 'parklogic.com':

  Message-ID: 20101110202251.16589.qm...@dusk.parklogic.com

And don't forget to wash your hands after flushing :)

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Re: Spam with fake address from the list?

2010-12-16 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:40:35PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:

 Hello *,
 
 does someone get this kind of spam too?

Yes.  Lots of it from various lists and other paths.   
Just delete it.

jerry


 
 Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
 Michelle Konzack
 
 - Forwarded message from freebsd-questions@freebsd.org -
 
 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 07:55:59 +1100
 From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 To: Michelle Konzack bsd4miche...@tamay-dogan.net
 Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
 X-TDMailSerialnumber: 10324672
 
Dear Sir/Madam,
Your email was unable reach the intended person that you were sending
it to.
For more information on our business please click on the following
link:
[1]Click here for our website
We look forward to your continued business in the future.
Regards,
Webmaster
 
 Verweise
 
1. http://www.xpbargains.net/
 
 - End forwarded message -
 
 
 
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 Tel: +33-6-61925193 mobil Tel: +49-177-9351947 mobil
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Re: Spam with fake address from the list?

2010-12-16 Thread Bernt Hansson

2010-12-16 12:40, Michelle Konzack:

Hello *,

does someone get this kind of spam too?


No, nothing from the ip-range 69.170.128.0/24 is getting thru.



Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
 Michelle Konzack

- Forwarded message from freebsd-questions@freebsd.org -

Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 07:55:59 +1100
From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
To: Michelle Konzackbsd4miche...@tamay-dogan.net
Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
X-TDMailSerialnumber: 10324672

Dear Sir/Madam,
Your email was unable reach the intended person that you were sending
it to.
For more information on our business please click on the following
link:
[1]Click here for our website
We look forward to your continued business in the future.
Regards,
Webmaster

Verweise

1. http://www.xpbargains.net/

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Re: Spam with fake address from the list?

2010-12-16 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail account)
On 16.12.2010 19:56, Bernt Hansson wrote:
 2010-12-16 12:40, Michelle Konzack:
 Hello *,

 does someone get this kind of spam too?
 
 No, nothing from the ip-range 69.170.128.0/24 is getting thru.

I actually have a very specific route, just for them, in my border gateway:

ip route 64.38.11.26 255.255.255.255 Null0

Let's just say that I have ... views on incurable spammers.

//Svein

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Re: Spam with fake address from the list?

2010-12-16 Thread Bernt Hansson

2010-12-16 19:59, Sven Skogen (List mail account):

On 16.12.2010 19:56, Bernt Hansson wrote:

2010-12-16 12:40, Michelle Konzack:

Hello *,

does someone get this kind of spam too?


No, nothing from the ip-range 69.170.128.0/24 is getting thru.


I actually have a very specific route, just for them, in my border gateway:

ip route 64.38.11.26 255.255.255.255 Null0


Aha. It's Layered Technologies, Inc. OK we block all ip assigned to them 
then.




Let's just say that I have ... views on incurable spammers.


So do we.


/BAH
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Re: [SPAM] FreeBSD 7.2 ia64

2009-11-04 Thread ill...@gmail.com
2009/10/30 Matt Szubrycht ma...@bmihosting.com:
 That's not normal... but then, what is these days?
 You probably saved some webpage instead of the actual iso (or whatever other
 format you were trying for)

 As old video games used to say: 'Try again?'

 Cheers,
 Matt

 On Oct 30, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Clayton Wilhelm da Rosa wrote:

 Hi my name is Clayton Wilhelm da Rosa,

 I made the dowmload of FreeBSD 7.2 ia64 i wanna know if is normal the
 files of disc 2 and 3 have only 364Kb size.

 thank you very much.

I am going to guess, that (1) as ia64 has quite a small
installed base as compared with i386  amd64, and
(2) as disks 2  3 are merely packages (many of
which may not build for ia64 in any case (I do not
know, excoriate me not for my ignorance) and
utterly unneeded to install the basic system, the
maintainers, developers, or packagers may see
building and distributing such a large number of
rarely used or perhaps broken packages as a
poor use of their time.

Summary: those are empty iso images and appear
to be so on all of the mirrors I checked.  Don't worry
about it, use disk1 to install and build your 3rd party
applications from ports.

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Re: [SPAM] FreeBSD 7.2 ia64

2009-11-03 Thread Matt Szubrycht

That's not normal... but then, what is these days?
You probably saved some webpage instead of the actual iso (or whatever  
other format you were trying for)


As old video games used to say: 'Try again?'

Cheers,
Matt

On Oct 30, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Clayton Wilhelm da Rosa wrote:


Hi my name is Clayton Wilhelm da Rosa,

I made the dowmload of FreeBSD 7.2 ia64 i wanna know if is normal  
the files of disc 2 and 3 have only 364Kb size.


thank you very much.




  


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Re: Spam from your domain

2009-04-23 Thread Glen Barber
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Roberto jackal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello. I'm receiving a lot of spam e-mails that links to your domain like to
 different pages like:
 http://11.a21a15.free-bsd.org/6f8n1jb6n97.html
 and many others. Can you stop this ? They sends mail to me
 through my website.
 Please answer me.


That is not the FreeBSD website.  The Official domain is 'freebsd.org'
not 'free-bsd.org'.

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Re: Spam from your domain

2009-04-23 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Roberto jackal...@gmail.com:

 Hello. I'm receiving a lot of spam e-mails that links to your domain like to
 different pages like:
 http://11.a21a15.free-bsd.org/6f8n1jb6n97.html
 and many others. Can you stop this ? They sends mail to me
 through my website.

Thanks for your email, Roberto.

free-bsd.org is not the same as freebsd.org.  You're talking to the
wrong people.

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Re: {Spam?} Re: Virtual machines hosted on FreeBSD 7

2008-09-08 Thread Derek Ragona

At 10:37 PM 9/8/2008, Michael wrote:



Derek Ragona wrote:
I have a FreeBSD 7 release I wanted to use as a host for virtual 
machines.  What software is anyone else using to host virtual machines 
under FreeBSD?


I'd just like to here what has worked, or what has not worked.  I find it 
easier to find a solution asking for real world experiences.


Thanks for your help.



-Derek
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 In my honest opinion, there aren't many good ways of doing what I 
think you're wanting.
VMware is a no go for now, or probably any time soon. I don't think 
virtualbox is running on freebsd yet. You could use jails, for just other 
freebsd installs, not really a VM so to speak.
bochs is crap for this purpose, simics doesn't run on it worth a crap 
either. If I were you, I would use something else. say a hypervisor 
running on bare hardware, ie: VMware ESX, or similar. I would say xen if 
it was ready, but I don't think it is.


Cheers Mate,

Mike


Mike,

Thanks for the quick response.  I had seen that there are a lot of 
non-working virtual machine implementations.  It seems a shame that as well 
as FreeBSD runs there are no ways to run a VM on it.


-Derek


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Re: Spam sent to me from my own mail server ?

2008-08-27 Thread Jason C. Wells
Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:
 Hello,
 
 for some time now I keep receiving spam mails from my own (small) mail
 server, some of them with faked usernames some of them even with my own
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
   1) How is this possible?
   2) What can I or do I have to do against it?
 I am running a quite plain sendmail setup from 7.0 -STABLE.

Look to see if you are running an open relay.  You shouldn't be by
default.  There are websites that will test this for you if you simply
provide the IP of the server.

That's a start.

My SPAM policy is something like this.  Spammers win. feh!  It's not the
best policy, but it requires the least effort on my part.

Regards,
Jason
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Re: Spam sent to me from my own mail server ?

2008-08-27 Thread Steve Bertrand

Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:

Hello,

for some time now I keep receiving spam mails from my own (small) mail 
server, some of them with faked usernames some of them even with my own 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]).


How have you identified that they are actually being delivered by your 
server itself?


It is my experience that this is likely not the case, and it is only 
your addresses that are being forged.


The only way to tell for certain is to review the headers of the message.

If you wish, send the email headers (privately if you want), and we can 
identify whether or not it is in fact your server delivering these messages.


Steve
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Re: Spam sent to me from my own mail server ?

2008-08-27 Thread Wayne Sierke
On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 11:40 -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote:
 Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:
  Hello,
  
  for some time now I keep receiving spam mails from my own (small) mail 
  server, some of them with faked usernames some of them even with my own 
  ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
 
 How have you identified that they are actually being delivered by your 
 server itself?
 
 It is my experience that this is likely not the case, and it is only 
 your addresses that are being forged.
 
Additionally, I see sendmail add the local domain to the From field of
incoming messages where the domain is missing. I've seen this on
numerous spam messages and even the occasional legitimate email. It's
been on my to-do list to look into this and modify it. Had me scratching
my head for a while the first time I saw it.


Wayne


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Re: Spam sent to me from my own mail server ?

2008-08-27 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa


Steve Bertrand schrieb:

Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:

Hello,

for some time now I keep receiving spam mails from my own (small) mail 
server, some of them with faked usernames some of them even with my 
own ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).


How have you identified that they are actually being delivered by your 
server itself?


It is my experience that this is likely not the case, and it is only 
your addresses that are being forged.
Actually I haven't identified anything, probably the address is 
forged somehow.




The only way to tell for certain is to review the headers of the message.


This should be one (I hope)
There is no user called ixd (Yolanda) on my system:


From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 27 18:48:36 2008
X-Mozilla-Status: 0009
X-Mozilla-Status2: 
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from 18971066005.user.veloxzone.com.br 
(18971066005.user.veloxzone.com

.br [189.71.66.5] (may be forged))
by pukruppa.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m7RGmXTN038419
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:48:34 
+0200 (CEST)

(envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from [189.71.66.5] (port=22480 
helo=18971066005.user.veloxzone.com.br)

by mail.pukruppa.net with esmtp
id d3c5a8-e87492-d2
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:45:59 --300
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Yolanda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jenifer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: last chance for Michael
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:45:59 --300
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary==_NextPart_001_3171_01C90864.62105880
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028

--=_NextPart_001_3171_01C90864.62105880
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

hi,


From: Yolanda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jenifer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: last chance for Michael
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:45:59 --300
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary==_NextPart_001_3171_01C90864.62105880
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028

--=_NextPart_001_3171_01C90864.62105880
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

hi,

2 days ago I got present from Michael.

He was happy!

Today I found the same and much cheaper!

htp://fangem.com

Take a look

-

BTW.: I sometimes try some relay tester, their machines never 
found anything.


Greetings,

Uli.



Steve


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Re: Spam sent to me from my own mail server ?

2008-08-27 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Aug 27, 2008, at 7:38 AM, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:
for some time now I keep receiving spam mails from my own (small)  
mail server, some of them with faked usernames some of them even  
with my own ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

 1) How is this possible?


Forging email headers is trivial.  You can do it with telnet by hand,  
although spammers tend to use malware which blasts lots of messages



 2) What can I or do I have to do against it?
I am running a quite plain sendmail setup from 7.0 -STABLE.


Configuring anti-spam measures is something that would occupy a book.   
For starters, look into greylisting, RBLs, and anti-spam tools which  
hook into the milter interface.  There's also some config-level  
changes documented here:


  http://www.sendmail.org/m4/anti_spam.html

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Re: Spam sent to me from my own mail server ?

2008-08-27 Thread Matthew Seaman

Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:

Steve Bertrand schrieb:

Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:


for some time now I keep receiving spam mails from my own (small) 
mail server, some of them with faked usernames some of them even with 
my own ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).



The only way to tell for certain is to review the headers of the message.


Received: from 18971066005.user.veloxzone.com.br 
(18971066005.user.veloxzone.com

.br [189.71.66.5] (may be forged))
by pukruppa.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m7RGmXTN038419
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:48:34 +0200 (CEST)
(envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])


It's a simple forgery by the spammer.  They just claim to be sending from 
your domain because there are apparently people that run internet connected 
mail systems where doing that makes it easier to inject spam... Either 
that, or the spammers figure they'll get you with the bounce-o-gramme even 
if the first delivery doesn't work.


There are a number of measures you can take against such things.  One thing
that is pretty easy to implement is to set up SPF records in the DNS.  This
won't stop the spammers attacking you this way, but it does mean that 
spamassassin will award them lots of spam points and probably reject the 
mail.


If you're using sendmail as your MTA, then look at implementing the 
following features in your $(hostname).mc:


FEATURE(greet_pause, `5000')dnl ## 5 seconds
FEATURE(block_bad_helo)dnl
FEATURE(badmx)dnl
FEATURE(require_rdns)dnl

These are pretty cheap resource wise and block many of the most egregious 
spammers.  There's a lot more you can do than that in setting up sendmail 
to be spam-resistent -- much more than I can describe in an e-mail like 
this.


Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Spam sent to me from my own mail server ?

2008-08-27 Thread Chris Pratt

Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:

Hello,
for some time now I keep receiving spam mails from my own (small)  
mail server, some of them with faked usernames some of them even  
with my own ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).





Matthew's message beat me to the response but I had typed
one. There are some great tools for this and many are in
ports. SPF and these do work. Here is what has been sitting in
my drafts, it may have some additional value.
...
I don't worry much about what I receive that is forged because
I'm reasonably sure that I didn't send it nor were my servers
leveraged. I monitor heavily. On the other hand,
I do make certain that others aren't receiving spam thinking
it's from my domains. SPF helps with this, information is
available on www.openspf.org. This doesn't stop forgery,
but it does give a tool to the receiver to verify what email
is actually from your domain and email server. It's
implemented very easily in your DNS entries. SPF is you telling
the world that you authorize your domain to send email only
from a specific set of servers (or a specific server). After you
implement SPF, after a few weeks, they will generally
stop using your domain because it's too frequently rejected
by receivers. It becomes less in their interest to forge your
domain so they go pick on someone else.

If you DO want to stop people using your domain in sending to
YOU, there are several tools to use in conjunction with sendmail
to do this. I use MailScanner which is available within ports.
If there are no relays involved in how you receive mail, this
works because SpamAssassin (automatically installed with
MailScanner) will see if the email you are receiving matched SPF.
Yours and everyone elses. There are good docs on the net for
using FreeBSD, sendmail, and MailScanner and it's dependencies.
If you can't find them, try this:

http://bio.fsu.edu/~sysalex/freebsd-mail-server.htm

If you are going to run a mail server, it's good to
have spam and virus defenses installed.

There are more direct methods of actually rejecting forged
emails within sendmail. You will find a list of these on the
SPF site under implementations. These tools may or may not
be in ports. You will have to check on that. They make use of
the milter interface within sendmail.

The spf mail list is extremely helpful and professional if you have
questions on this. You can join this list on their site. I'm not
pushing their site or this draft standard, it's that SPF has
worked pretty well for what it does and it's open method of
dealing with the problems.


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Re: Spam sent to me from my own mail server ?

2008-08-27 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa

Sorry, I forgot to post to the list!



Matthew Seaman schrieb:
 Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:
 Steve Bertrand schrieb:
 Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:

 for some time now I keep receiving spam mails from my
 own (small) mail server, some of them with faked
 usernames some of them even with my own ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

 The only way to tell for certain is to review the headers
 of the message.

 Received: from 18971066005.user.veloxzone.com.br 
(18971066005.user.veloxzone.com .br [189.71.66.5] (may be

 forged)) by pukruppa.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id
 m7RGmXTN038419 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 27 Aug 2008
 18:48:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])

 It's a simple forgery by the spammer.  They just claim to be
 sending from your domain because there are apparently people
 that run internet connected mail systems where doing that
 makes it easier to inject spam... Either that, or the spammers
 figure they'll get you with the bounce-o-gramme even if the
 first delivery doesn't work.

 There are a number of measures you can take against such
 things.  One thing that is pretty easy to implement is to set
 up SPF records in the DNS.  This won't stop the spammers
 attacking you this way, but it does mean that spamassassin
 will award them lots of spam points and probably reject the mail.

 If you're using sendmail as your MTA, then look at
 implementing the following features in your $(hostname).mc:
Would that mean a file called
/etc/mail/pukruppa.net.mc
in my case? Since I get
# hostname
pukruppa.net
or do I leave away the .net ?

Thanks,

Uli.


 FEATURE(greet_pause, `5000')dnl ## 5 seconds 
FEATURE(block_bad_helo)dnl FEATURE(badmx)dnl FEATURE(require_rdns)dnl


 These are pretty cheap resource wise and block many of the
 most egregious spammers.  There's a lot more you can do than
 that in setting up sendmail to be spam-resistent -- much more
 than I can describe in an e-mail like this.

 Cheers,

 Matthew


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Re: Spam sent to me from my own mail server ?

2008-08-27 Thread Matthew Seaman

Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:

Matthew Seaman schrieb:



  If you're using sendmail as your MTA, then look at
  implementing the following features in your $(hostname).mc:



Would that mean a file called
/etc/mail/pukruppa.net.mc
in my case? Since I get
# hostname
pukruppa.net
or do I leave away the .net ?


It's shorthand for 'whatever you call the .mc file you generate your
sendmail.cf from.'  By default on FreeBSD it's named according to
what the hostname(1) command outputs, which should be the fully qualified 
domain name of your machine (ie. pukruppa.net).  You can create the
initial copies of the files by:

  # cd /etc/mail
  # make

which will create files pukruppa.net.mc and pukruppa.net.subit.mc
and then process those respectively into pukruppa.net.cf and 
pukruppa.net.submit.cf


Edit pukruppa.net.mc to make any changes you want, then type 'make'
to rebuild pukkruppa.net.cf and then 'make install restart' to
copy pukruppa.net.cf to sendmail.cf (amongst other actiosn) and restart 
sendmail.  In general, whenever you do anything to sendmail related config 
files including stuff like aliases and access and virtusertable, run

just run make to publish it to the running sendmail process -- you only need
'make install restart' when you modify one of the .cf files.

Cheers

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{Disarmed} Re: {Spam?} {Disarmed} Re: Sendmail email delays

2008-08-17 Thread Derek Ragona

At 07:49 PM 8/15/2008, Tom Stuart wrote:
I have tried doing the forwarding via /etc/mail/aliases and it worked 
identically as it was with the /root/.forward. The mail does go through 
but gets delayed 5+ minutes, however when I send mail interactively using 
mailx or mail commands the receiving mailserver receives the message instantly.


I'd also like to add that if I restart sendmail via /etc/rc.d/sendmail 
restart the mail gets instantly received also...Thanks for the help thus far


Check your sendmail options in /etc/rc.conf and if you don't have any 
there, check the defaults.  Usually you are running two versions of 
sendmail.  Check the sendmail flags you are using for something like 
-q5m.  If you see this, try changing the value and see if that effects your 
delivery time.


-Derek



On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Derek Ragona 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At 03:49 PM 8/15/2008, Tom Stuart wrote:

I've been having trouble sending email that was sent via a process(swatch).
I can send emails fine via command-line and receive immediately to the
forwarded address. However when sent via swatch it can take 5-10 minutes.
These entries appear in /var/log/mailllog. Note this is all relating to the
same email and notice the 11 minute delay. Thanks in advance for any help.

Aug 15 14:35:12 firewall-1 sendmail[72747]: m7FKZCXf072747: from=username,
size=155, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

ocalhost
Aug 15 14:35:12 firewall-1 sendmail[72747]: m7FKZCXf072747: to=root,
delay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30155, stat=queued
Aug 15 14:43:18 firewall-1 sendmail[72762]: m7FKhHx8072762: from=username,
size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aug 15 14:46:03 firewall-1 sm-mta[72794]: m7FKk3wc072794: from=
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED], 
size=512, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED], 
proto=ESMTP,
daemon=Daemon0, relay=localhost [http://127.0.0.1MailScanner warning: 
numerical links are often malicious:http://127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1]

Aug 15 14:46:03 firewall-1 sm-msp-queue[72793]: m7FKZCXf072747: to=root,
ctladdr=username (1001/1001), delay=00:10:51, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
pri=120155, relay=[http://127.0.0.1MailScanner warning: numerical 
links are often malicious:http://127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1
] [http://127.0.0.1MailScanner warning: numerical links are often 
malicious:http://127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent 
(m7FKk3wc072794 Message accepted for

delivery)
Aug 15 14:46:03 firewall-1 sm-mta[72795]: m7FKk3wc072794: to=
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED], 
ctladdr=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 (1001/1001),

delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:0
0:00, mailer=relay, pri=30809, relay=http://smtp.xxx.comsmtp.xxx.com. 
[http://10.0.0.2MailScanner warning: numerical links are often 
malicious:http://10.0.0.2 10.0.0.2], dsn=2.0.0,
stat=Sent ( 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Queued mail for

delivery)


I think its important to know these details:
firewall-1# uname -a
FreeBSD http://firewall-1.xxx.comfirewall-1.xxx.com 7.0-RC1 FreeBSD 
7.0-RC1 #2: Tue Feb  5 07:10:05

MST 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FIREWALL-1  i386

There is a .forward file in /root to forward root's mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is to be sent via smarthost.


I have the smarthost DS parameter in 
/etc/mail/http://sendmail.cfsendmail.cf configured to

use http://DSsmtp.xxx.comDSsmtp.xxx.com

/etc/hosts contains
localhost http://127.0.0.1MailScanner warning: numerical 
links are often malicious:http://127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 firewall-1 
http://firewall-1.xxx.comfirewall-1.xxx.com
http://smtp.xxx.comsmtp.xxx.com http://10.0.0.2MailScanner 
warning: numerical links are often malicious:http://10.0.0.2 10.0.0.2


Have you tried changing the alias for root to the forwarded address in 
/etc/mail/aliases?  You can make the change there and rebuild the aliases file.


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Re: {Spam?} Re: SCSI RAID on FreeBSD 7.0, where is the array?

2008-07-30 Thread Derek Ragona

At 07:14 PM 7/30/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Derek,

As mentioned in my post, I have configured the Adaptec BIOS 
(SCSIselect/HostRAID) to create a RAID0 array.


The GENERIC Kernel natively-uses the 'ahd' adapter for this card, 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ahdsektion=4manpath=FreeBSD+7.0-RELEASEhttp://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ahdsektion=4manpath=FreeBSD+7.0-RELEASE


dmesg does not post any errors, it recognised the card as ahd0, and states 
that da0  da1 are on that bus. I can not post the dmesg as the NIC 
adapter needs to be patched once the OS is installed. I could find a USB 
key and copy it over if you like, but there are no errors to consider.


Regards


What does dmesg show for da0 and da1?

Did you actually create the array in the Adaptec RAID BIOS?  If you did, 
with a stripped array I'd expect dmesg to only report da0 as the stripped 
compendium of both disks.


-Derek






Derek Ragona wrote:
At 07:56 AM 7/30/2008, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Hi all,


I am fighting the following hardware:

MB: ASUS p5b-plus (NON vista edition)
Cpu: Core 2 duo 4600
SCSI Card: Adaptec 39320 (Unused Dell OEM bought from ebay)
HDDs: 2xSeagate Cheetah 73.4 GB Ultra320 SCSI (posibly Dell OEM)

Nb. The MB does not support PCI-X, but is backwards compatible to a 
standard PCI slot. On recommendations I have limited the throughput on 
the channels to 160mb.


If you think any other pieces relevant let me know.


I think this is probably just an issue with my not knowing wtf I'm 
doing, but to be optimistic lets assume the ahd module worked as there 
are no errors in dmesg; which device do I install to? I can not see see 
ahd0 in fdisk.


There are alot of posts over the years reporting trouble with the 
Dell(Adaptec/Seagate) combiniation. The funny thing is that I am having 
none of these troubles; There are no panics, no dumps and no lengthy 
pauses. It all seems fine, until I try to select the disk to install to 
and I only have da0 or da1.




Thanks for your time


Have you defined an array?

If you create the array in the adaptec BIOS you will see one large hard 
disk in FreeBSD.  If you do not define an array in the adaptec BIOS you 
will see the individual SCSI drives as da0, da1, etc.


The GENERIC kernel has all the typical SCSI and RAID adapters compiled 
in, so look at the dmesg output when you boot FreeBSD.


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Re: {Spam?} Re: SCSI RAID on FreeBSD 7.0, where is the array?

2008-07-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks for the quick reply!

I created the array in the Adaptec BIOS and confirmed it with an XP 
installer disk, which gave me the option to install to the array as I 
had named it.



I have to apologise for not having the actual dmesg handy but 
identifies the disks much like the example below, but with Seagate disks.


It does not identify any striping or make any differentiation between 
the discs other than the target id.

.

da0 at ahd0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0
da0: MAXTOR ATLAS10K4_36WLS DFV0 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device 
da0: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 127, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled

da0: 35074MB (71833096 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4471C)
da1 at ahd0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
da1: MAXTOR ATLAS10K4_36WLS DFV0 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device 
da1: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 127, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled

da1: 35074MB (71833096 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4471C)



Regards



Derek Ragona wrote:

At 07:14 PM 7/30/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Derek,

As mentioned in my post, I have configured the Adaptec BIOS 
(SCSIselect/HostRAID) to create a RAID0 array.


The GENERIC Kernel natively-uses the 'ahd' adapter for this card, 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ahdsektion=4manpath=FreeBSD+7.0-RELEASEhttp://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ahdsektion=4manpath=FreeBSD+7.0-RELEASE 



dmesg does not post any errors, it recognised the card as ahd0, and 
states that da0  da1 are on that bus. I can not post the dmesg as 
the NIC adapter needs to be patched once the OS is installed. I could 
find a USB key and copy it over if you like, but there are no errors 
to consider.


Regards


What does dmesg show for da0 and da1?

Did you actually create the array in the Adaptec RAID BIOS?  If you 
did, with a stripped array I'd expect dmesg to only report da0 as the 
stripped compendium of both disks.


-Derek






Derek Ragona wrote:
At 07:56 AM 7/30/2008, 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,


I am fighting the following hardware:

MB: ASUS p5b-plus (NON vista edition)
Cpu: Core 2 duo 4600
SCSI Card: Adaptec 39320 (Unused Dell OEM bought from ebay)
HDDs: 2xSeagate Cheetah 73.4 GB Ultra320 SCSI (posibly Dell OEM)

Nb. The MB does not support PCI-X, but is backwards compatible to a 
standard PCI slot. On recommendations I have limited the throughput 
on the channels to 160mb.


If you think any other pieces relevant let me know.


I think this is probably just an issue with my not knowing wtf I'm 
doing, but to be optimistic lets assume the ahd module worked as 
there are no errors in dmesg; which device do I install to? I can 
not see see ahd0 in fdisk.


There are alot of posts over the years reporting trouble with the 
Dell(Adaptec/Seagate) combiniation. The funny thing is that I am 
having none of these troubles; There are no panics, no dumps and no 
lengthy pauses. It all seems fine, until I try to select the disk 
to install to and I only have da0 or da1.




Thanks for your time


Have you defined an array?

If you create the array in the adaptec BIOS you will see one large 
hard disk in FreeBSD.  If you do not define an array in the adaptec 
BIOS you will see the individual SCSI drives as da0, da1, etc.


The GENERIC kernel has all the typical SCSI and RAID adapters 
compiled in, so look at the dmesg output when you boot FreeBSD.


-Derek

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Re: {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: SCSI RAID on FreeBSD 7.0, where is the array?

2008-07-30 Thread Derek Ragona

At 07:53 PM 7/30/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks for the quick reply!

I created the array in the Adaptec BIOS and confirmed it with an XP 
installer disk, which gave me the option to install to the array as I had 
named it.



I have to apologise for not having the actual dmesg handy but identifies 
the disks much like the example below, but with Seagate disks.


It does not identify any striping or make any differentiation between the 
discs other than the target id.

.

da0 at ahd0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0
da0: MAXTOR ATLAS10K4_36WLS DFV0 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 
320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 127, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled

da0: 35074MB (71833096 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4471C)
da1 at ahd0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
da1: MAXTOR ATLAS10K4_36WLS DFV0 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da1: 
320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 127, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled

da1: 35074MB (71833096 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4471C)



Regards



Are you seeing any aacd drives in the dmesg?  This would be the device name 
for an advanced adaptec raid drive.


-Derek




Derek Ragona wrote:

At 07:14 PM 7/30/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Derek,

As mentioned in my post, I have configured the Adaptec BIOS 
(SCSIselect/HostRAID) to create a RAID0 array.


The GENERIC Kernel natively-uses the 'ahd' adapter for this card, 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ahdsektion=4manpath=FreeBSD+7.0-RELEASEhttp://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ahdsektion=4manpath=FreeBSD+7.0-RELEASE 



dmesg does not post any errors, it recognised the card as ahd0, and 
states that da0  da1 are on that bus. I can not post the dmesg as the 
NIC adapter needs to be patched once the OS is installed. I could find a 
USB key and copy it over if you like, but there are no errors to consider.


Regards


What does dmesg show for da0 and da1?

Did you actually create the array in the Adaptec RAID BIOS?  If you did, 
with a stripped array I'd expect dmesg to only report da0 as the stripped 
compendium of both disks.


-Derek






Derek Ragona wrote:
At 07:56 AM 7/30/2008, 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,


I am fighting the following hardware:

MB: ASUS p5b-plus (NON vista edition)
Cpu: Core 2 duo 4600
SCSI Card: Adaptec 39320 (Unused Dell OEM bought from ebay)
HDDs: 2xSeagate Cheetah 73.4 GB Ultra320 SCSI (posibly Dell OEM)

Nb. The MB does not support PCI-X, but is backwards compatible to a 
standard PCI slot. On recommendations I have limited the throughput on 
the channels to 160mb.


If you think any other pieces relevant let me know.


I think this is probably just an issue with my not knowing wtf I'm 
doing, but to be optimistic lets assume the ahd module worked as there 
are no errors in dmesg; which device do I install to? I can not see 
see ahd0 in fdisk.


There are alot of posts over the years reporting trouble with the 
Dell(Adaptec/Seagate) combiniation. The funny thing is that I am 
having none of these troubles; There are no panics, no dumps and no 
lengthy pauses. It all seems fine, until I try to select the disk to 
install to and I only have da0 or da1.




Thanks for your time


Have you defined an array?

If you create the array in the adaptec BIOS you will see one large hard 
disk in FreeBSD.  If you do not define an array in the adaptec BIOS you 
will see the individual SCSI drives as da0, da1, etc.


The GENERIC kernel has all the typical SCSI and RAID adapters compiled 
in, so look at the dmesg output when you boot FreeBSD.


-Derek

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Re: {Spam?} Re: Sendmail local LAN delivery

2008-07-27 Thread Derek Ragona

At 03:49 PM 7/27/2008, Bruno Joho wrote:

Hi Derek

thanks for the reply.
My intention was to deliver the mails between the workstations on the
LAN directly. Every Workstation
on the LAN would have an appropriate cf file which forwards mails with
a destination on the WAN - to the
WAN-Smarthost, any mail going to a destination from inside the LAN
would be delivered
directly to the destination host without involving a (LAN) smarthost.
Is that possible somehow?

Thanks for your help

Bruno


That scenario is possible, but you may still need DNS MX records to point 
to the smart host as well.  You can have multiple MX records for a domain 
(or subdomain) where the value field is higher for a farther away mail 
server, or for a secondary mail server.  Sendmail uses DNS to figure 
routing along with the internal configuration file UNLESS you specify to 
sendmail to NOT use DNS.


So you have some choices in how you configure sendmail and/or DNS.

Also it may help you to test things on one system and bump up the sendmail 
logging so the /var/log/maillog file has more information.  Use the option:

-O LogLevel=80
Or some other value than 80.  You can add these options to your sendmail 
flags in /etc/rc.conf


-Derek

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Re: {Spam?} Re: CPU temp's on core 2 duo, should they be significantly different?

2008-06-23 Thread Derek Ragona

At 02:24 PM 6/23/2008, Josh Carroll wrote:

 Not sure if the core duos work the same as older 2 CPU and 4 CPU
 motherboards, but there are some BIOS functions that always use the first
 CPU.  So you never get true SMP because the hardware uses the first CPU 
more

 to service interrupts.

True, but interrupt handling and minimal background processing should
not cause a core to be 15 C hotter. I guess the original poster can
mention the load on both cores (or post a top snapshot) so we can see
if there is some load on the system.


It can cause it to be hotter because the first CPU is servicing all 
motherboard hardware like the ethernet, video, etc.  It is usually the 
ethernet that causes the most cpu activity.


-Derek

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Re: {Spam?} Re: agp problems in 7.0-RELEASE

2008-05-12 Thread Derek Ragona

At 08:54 PM 5/11/2008, Novembre wrote:


On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Derek Ragona 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At 02:17 PM 5/11/2008, Novembre wrote:

Hi all,

I have upgraded my home desktop (1.4GHz P-IIIS) machine from 6.2-RELEASE-p9
to 7.0-RELEASE some time ago. When comparing the two dmesg outputs from 6.2
and 7.0, I realized that some things aren't the same anymore.

Probing agp gives the following messages
--
6.2-RELEASE-p9:
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
agp0: VIA 862x (CLE266) host to PCI bridge mem 0xe000-0xe0ff at
device 0.0 on pci0
pcib1: PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: PCI bus on pcib1
pci1: display, VGA at device 0.0 (no driver attached)

7.0-RELEASE:
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
agp0: VIA 862x (CLE266) host to PCI bridge on hostb0
agp0: Invalid aperture setting 0x0agp0: Invalid aperture setting 0x0agp0:
bad aperture size
agp0: Invalid aperture setting 0x0agp0: Invalid aperture size (0Mb)
device_attach: agp0 attach returned 12
pcib1: PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: PCI bus on pcib1
vgapci0: VGA-compatible display mem
0xd800-0xdbff,0xde00-0xdeff

at device 0.0 on pci1
--

So what are the errors agp0: Invalid aperture setting 0x0 and agp0: bad
aperture size (0Mb) and device_attach: agp0 attach returned 12 that I see
in 7.0-RELEASE? I assume that agp driver is not attached, so there's
something wrong with its implementation in 7.0, right?

I have uploaded the complete dmesg's to
6.2-RELEASE dmesg 
:http://pastebin.com/f12c0ff27http://pastebin.com/f12c0ff27
7.0-RELEASE dmesg 
:http://pastebin.com/f3e6809c6http://pastebin.com/f3e6809c6


Thanks a lot :)


The agp aperture size is usually set in the BIOS.  Check your BIOS.

-Derek

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Hi,

It could be a possibility, but I haven't touched anything in the BIOS. 
I've just upgraded my 6.2-RELEASE-p9 to 7.0-RELEASE from source. Besides, 
I was not geting that error when using 6.2. Apparently, it's something 
related to FreeBSD rather than my BIOS.


Thanks :)


While you may not have changed anything, I would verify the setting in your 
BIOS and possibly try a different setting.  Most BIOS allow only for 2-3 
settings.  It may be you have a non-standard setting and the loader is 
seeing that as 0.


-Derek


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Re: Spam mails

2008-03-02 Thread Glen Barber
On Sunday 02 March 2008 09:30:47 pm Ming Tang wrote:
 Hi -

 My email server is on FreeBSD 5.4 Release. I got a lot spam mails every day
 and it is really a headache to clean these mails in my pop mail client
 software daily.

 Is there any effective way to reduce and block these spam emails? Please
 help to provide me hint or direction.

Although I'm not certain of your exact setup, I use procmail to filter out 
the 'spam' mail.  Well.. In reality, I use it in a reverse fashion.  

I filter all mail to my 'trash' folder, then using procmail, filter all 'good' 
mail out (ie, mailing lists, school email, personal contacts, etc).

Hope this helps.
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Re: Spam mails

2008-03-02 Thread Paul A. Procacci

Server wide blocking w/ an rbl of your choice:

http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp/rblsmtpd.html

Server wide or inbox specific filtering w/ bayes capabilities:

http://spamassassin.apache.org/

Or, don't run a mail server...which is the most effective.  ;)
Obviously there are many other programs you can use, however I just 
provided two off the top of my head.


~Paul

Ming Tang wrote:

Hi -

My email server is on FreeBSD 5.4 Release. I got a lot spam mails every day
and it is really a headache to clean these mails in my pop mail client
software daily.

Is there any effective way to reduce and block these spam emails? Please
help to provide me hint or direction.

Thank you in advance.


- Ming
 
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Re: [SPAM] video/x-ms-asf-plugin for firefox

2008-01-25 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko

Vikas P. Sonawani wrote:

Where I will get video/x-ms-asf-plugin for firefox?


Try ports/www/mplayer-plugin

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Re: Spam filtering with dspam and postfix

2008-01-25 Thread Mark D. Foster
J. Johnston wrote:
 Hello,

 I was wondering if anyone knew of a good howto, or some tips for
 filtering spam using dspam in a setup where virtual users (various
 domains) are stored in LDAP. Currently we hand off email to dspam in
 the filter stage and dspam hands it back into postfix as lmtp, the
 problem with this is the current setup uses (and only howto I can
 find) one user for dspam, so the quarantine is under one username, we
 would like to separate this so each [EMAIL PROTECTED] has their own
 quarantines.
Just setup postfix + dspam + procmail last week, although on
Ubuntu...conceptually the same.
Here is the article I followed:
http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/focus_spam_dspam?page=0%2C0

I used dspam as the delivery agent (mailbox_command) which in turn calls
procmail.

Turning this into a working configuration took a LOT of tuning... it's
still not quite right but alas DSPAM (after training) is doing a nice
job of  filtering more than 90% of what gets past the DNSBL. End result,
I am only seeing a few spam messages per day, and those are the
odd/terse kind.

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Re: Spam Filtering

2007-10-02 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 04:54:22PM -0500, Jack Barnett wrote:
 
 My setup is basically everything gets pumped though procmail and ends up in 
 an Courier imap directories.
 
 I'm thinking of going with something like SpamBouncer (procmail filter). 
 Anyone use that before?  Any other spam filtering that might work better 
 with this setup?

Bogofilter works fine called from procmail. It is a Bayesian spam
filter, so you have to train it.

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Re: Spam Filtering

2007-10-02 Thread Olivier Nicole
 My setup is basically everything gets pumped though procmail and ends up 
 in an Courier imap directories.

I am using SpamAssassin (from the ports) inside procmail that
quarantine every suspect messages and send a daily summary:
http://www.cs.ait.ac.th/laboratory/email/quarantine.shtml

Best regards,

Olivier
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Re: SPAM filtering Agent

2007-05-30 Thread Gerard
On Wednesday May 30, 2007 at 07:34:35 (AM) DeadMan Xia  wrote:


 hope every1 doing fine well i m using QMAIL for email services. I have also
 installed SPAM ASSASINS while installing Qmail. Now i m getting too much
 SPAM in every mailbox of my domain.
 
 Kindly help me out and tell me what shld i do. which spam filter is should
 use and how to configure and install that filter.

Before anyone can assist you, it will require you detailing exactly what
you are doing. Showing your 'Spam Assassin' configuration file would be
useful. I know nothing about Qmail, so I cannot help you there. You
might be better served trying the Qmail and Spam Assassin mailing lists.

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Re: ***SPAM*** Re: One hurdle left to switch

2007-02-06 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Tuesday, February 06, 2007 09:46:14 -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


Oh, another thing. I've used HR Block's online tax accounting service,
and although it's not the best interface, it's just as good as some
copies of Turbotax that I've seen.


You used it with FreeBSD?  What browser?  And did it require Flash?  Java?

Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/


Re: Spam and Viruses, Vandalism-l, the Mailing List from Hell.

2007-01-27 Thread Martin McCormick
Paul Schmehl writes:
 Uvscan is McAfee's antivirus product. Did you install it? There's a conf
 file in the files directory of that port. It defines AVSCANNER as /usr/
 local/bin/uvscan. That would require that you have McAfee Antivirus for
 FreeBSD installed. If this machine handles lots of mail, I wouldn't 
 suggest
 you use that. Uvscan launches a shell for each time it's called, and it
 will suck a lot of cpu and memory (based on our extensive comparison
 testing.)

Thank you very much.  I was a little fuzzy about how the
mcAfee product with its data base got there or what it looked
like, etc.

It is probably not worth the extra load to have
antivirus-milter on there although I see now that had mcAfee
been there, it would have probably done its job.

I am the only major inbound Email account on that system,
but it is a rather busy workhorse for our group and is already
busy enough that one notices slowdowns at times and, when we
check, it is all legitimate.  In this business, paranoia is a virtue.

Again, thanks for your help.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group
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Re: Spam and Viruses, Vandalism-l, the Mailing List from Hell.

2007-01-26 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On January 26, 2007 10:16:57 PM -0600 Martin McCormick 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Has anyone gotten the port
/usr/ports/mail/antivirus-milter to work?

The system in question runs FreeBSD5.4 with sendmail and
bogofilter.  Bogofilter is excellent at helping sort messages in
to spam or other folders if you generate a large wordlist.

One category of junkmail, however, is not true spam.  It
is more a form of hacking in that it tries to implant viruses
like Johny Appleseed only this guy is Johny weedseed.

I got antivirus-milter to make and install but it
immediately failed when started:

antivirus[53446]: externalcommand()
failed to execve() /system/av/decullotage/uvscan

Uvscan is McAfee's antivirus product.  Did you install it?  There's a conf 
file in the files directory of that port.  It defines AVSCANNER as 
/usr/local/bin/uvscan.  That would require that you have McAfee 
Antivirus for FreeBSD installed.  If this machine handles lots of mail, I 
wouldn't suggest you use that.  Uvscan launches a shell for each time it's 
called, and it will suck a lot of cpu and memory (based on our extensive 
comparison testing.)


I would recommend that you install either clamav (security/clamav) or your 
school's commercial product *if* it has a daemon for FreeBSD.  If it's a 
shell program like McAfee, I would *not* recommend it.


Once you have the av product installed, edit the conf file appropriately 
and you should be up and running.  You'll find the conf file in 
/usr/local/etc.


Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/


RE: *** SPAM *** Re: Failure to compile

2006-12-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Original Message:
-
From: Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:50:25 +0300
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], freeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org
Subject: *** SPAM *** Re: Failure to compile


Hello, Brian!


On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:34:05 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I did not realise FreeBSD had a C compiler, I decided to reformat the
 partition and reinstall FreeBSD.  It appeared to go well but after exiting
 the install I cannot boot it, I get the error message ' Unable to load a
 Kernel', what has happened?

You did something wrong. ;-)

To avoid spending much time I usually install FreeBSD with minimal
configuration. It takes some 5-10 minutes only. That I reboot the
system. If it boots I use sysinstall to add other needed stuff (ports,
docs, sources, some initial packages etc.)

If the system doesn't boot, well, I spend an other couple of 5-10
minutes to reinstall the OS.


WBR
-- 
Boris Samorodov (bsam)
Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone  Internet SP
FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve

Many thanks for your reply, I installed as you suggested and everything
works fine!  Cannot understand why. Even cc (not now the Xenix version !).

Brian



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http://mail2web.com/ .


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Re: Spam prevention

2006-11-30 Thread RW
On Thursday 30 November 2006 02:58, Armin Arh wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 06:53:36PM -0500, Ian Lord wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I would like to setup a mail server with postfix and sendmail...

 exim + bogofilter doing their job here.


I've played around with one of Arnin's pubbox.net account, and it is very good 
at catching spam without false positives. 

It should be noted though that he's using bogofilter with some additional OCR 
handling (details on the pubbox.net site). Without some use of OCR, 
Bogofilter isn't much good on catching the latest image spams.
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Re: Spam prevention

2006-11-29 Thread Derek Ragona

I use spamassassin and it works well with sendmail.

-Derek


At 05:53 PM 11/29/2006, Ian Lord wrote:


Hi,

I would like to setup a mail server with postfix and sendmail...

To fight spam, is spamassassin the best choice or should I look into
something else ?

Thanks


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Re: Spam prevention

2006-11-29 Thread Eric

Ian Lord wrote:

Hi,

I would like to setup a mail server with postfix and sendmail...

To fight spam, is spamassassin the best choice or should I look into
something else ?

Thanks

  

why postfix AND sendmail? you do not need both. just use postfix

i recommend postgrey and amavisd. you can use spamassassin and clamav 
with amavisd. it rocks

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Re: Spam prevention

2006-11-29 Thread Kurt Buff

Sorry, this didn't make it back to the list, so I'm sending again...


Hi,


Howdy.


I would like to setup a mail server with postfix and sendmail...


One or the other, not both. I'm partial to postifx myself, as I find
it much easier to set up and administer.


To fight spam, is spamassassin the best choice or should I look into
something else ?


SpamAssassin is what I use, along with ClamAV and  Amavisd-new. I'll
be adding Maia Mailguard into the mix in the next iteration of the
machine.

You don't specify anything about your environment, so it's hard to
give much more advice. However, I can make one very good
recommendation:

The Book of Postfix, by Hildebrandt and Koetter

http://www.bookpool.com/sm/1593270011


Thanks


You're welcome.

Kurt
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Re: Spam prevention

2006-11-29 Thread Josh Tolbert
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 06:53:36PM -0500, Ian Lord wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I would like to setup a mail server with postfix and sendmail...
 
 To fight spam, is spamassassin the best choice or should I look into
 something else ?
 
 Thanks

I'm using sendmail and imap-uw. I am using greylisting (milter-greylist) and
virus-filtering (clamav with clamav-milter) in sendmail, plus I have
spamassassin available to the users via procmail (which is set as sendmail's
LDA). This setup works very well for my users.

Setting this stuff up in sendmail is also a good time to set up SSL/TLS and
SMTP AUTH. :)

Good luck,

Josh
-- 
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Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor
do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger
is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either
a daring adventure, or nothing.
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Re: Spam prevention

2006-11-29 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Wednesday November 29, 2006 at 06:53:36 (PM) Ian Lord wrote:


 I would like to setup a mail server with postfix and sendmail...
 
 To fight spam, is spamassassin the best choice or should I look into
 something else ?

I use Postfix with MailScanner along with Clamav and SpamAssassin. There
are more exotic configurations available to you though.

BTW, you only need either Postfix or Sendmail. I definitely vote for
Postfix.

-- 
Gerard
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Re: Spam prevention

2006-11-29 Thread Armin Arh
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 06:53:36PM -0500, Ian Lord wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I would like to setup a mail server with postfix and sendmail...

exim + bogofilter doing their job here.
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Re: Spam prevention

2006-11-29 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Ian Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 To fight spam, is spamassassin the best choice or should I look into
 something else ?

Spamassassin works.  If you have Microsoft machines in your setup, you
probably want clamav (antivirus) or similar as well.  And finally, do
look into running some sort of greylisting (possibly supplemented with
a tarpit for known bad senders).  

The greylisting/tarpitting part is really easy to do with PF, see eg
http://home.nuug.no/~peter/pf/en/spamd.html (part of my packet
filtering for fun and profit tutorial)

-- 
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http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/
First, we kill all the spammers The Usenet Bard, Twice-forwarded tales
20:11:56 delilah spamd[26905]: 146.151.48.74: disconnected after 36099 seconds
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Re: **SPAM** binary upgrade issues

2006-08-03 Thread Colin Percival
John Rogers wrote:
 Hi, I was upgrading following Colin's FreeBSD 6.0 to FreeBSD 6.1
 binary upgrade
 
 http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-upgrade-6.0-to-6.1/
 
 but it failed.  I installed freebsd 6.0 release and only used Colin's
 freebsd-update to updae before.  There is plenty of free space on that
 partition.  What do you advise me to do to finish the upgrade?

Based on what you pasted below, I suggest
1. Figure out why /usr/bin/gdbtui can't be read.  In particular, make
sure your hard drive isn't dying.
2. The error which made the script terminate is either due to a dying
hard drive or a network problem which made it impossible to fetch some
files.  Re-run the script; it won't bother fetching files which it
already has.

Note that at this point all the script has done is to examine your
system and download files; it won't start actually upgrading anything
until it makes sure that it has all the files it needs. :-)

 I also wonder why these binary update and upgrade are not legitimized
 in the freebsd core distribution.  An important reason why linux is
 used by more is its easy update solution similar to Microsoft's
 Windows Update.  Sure make world is fun especially to developers.
 But providing easy update and upgrade tools in addition will attract a
 large user base who just need a stable and easy to use operation
 system - and many of them can be companies who can be potential donors
 to the freebsd project.  So the effort to this path will be well
 rewarded.

We're moving in that direction.  Everything starts out by being experimental
before becoming officially supported and endorsed.

Colin Percival
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Re: **SPAM** binary upgrade issues

2006-08-03 Thread backyard1454-bsd



  I also wonder why these binary update and upgrade
 are not legitimized
  in the freebsd core distribution.  An important
 reason why linux is
  used by more is its easy update solution similar
 to Microsoft's
  Windows Update.  Sure make world is fun
 especially to developers.
  But providing easy update and upgrade tools in
 addition will attract a
  large user base who just need a stable and easy to
 use operation
  system - and many of them can be companies who can
 be potential donors
  to the freebsd project.  So the effort to this
 path will be well
  rewarded.
 
 We're moving in that direction.  Everything starts
 out by being experimental
 before becoming officially supported and endorsed.
 
 Colin Percival

I acutally find it better to do the make world then
to deal with binary updates because if it builds on
your system it will typically run on your system, as
well as there not being silly little incompatabilities
with the system libraries and binaries. I find
updating linux to be the most god awful prospect on
earth which is why I switched to FreeBSD for the most
part. It's probably gotten a lot better since Redhat
7.x which is what I was using. Gentoo is a lot better
but I haven't had a working system since they updated
the kernel to xx.xx.15 and put gcc 4.x into the base
system...

but to each their own, I know a binary update would be
nice when I start deploying things like desktopbsd on
my friends PCs who don't get formatting a harddrive
let alone building software. However this would mean
the builds would have to be generic i586, i686 and on
an old p3 500mhz machine building for a specific
processor with specific optimizations can make a huge
difference in performance. Even more so on p2 166
machines. 

Again to each their own. But I wouldn't tout Microsoft
update as a good thing becuase there are known bugs
where updates can erase previously updated code with
old buggy code... 

sorry been a long day had to end it with blasting
microsloth...

-brian

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Re: Spam problem!

2006-05-30 Thread Igor Robul
On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 03:04:42AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
 SMTP with SSL/TLS and authentication for a network works wonders.. 
I'm not talking about _my_ users sending mail, I'm talking about mail
_to_ my users :-)

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Re: Spam problem!

2006-05-29 Thread Igor Robul
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 07:53:12AM -0700, Olga Zenkova wrote:
 mailboxes with field To: user3 in it. There are no
 user1 or user2 in this field. Is it possible to cut
 off these letters? Especially it is difficult to
 explain for user1 and user2 why they got letters
 addressed not for them.
Just show them Envelope-To: header in Outlook :-)
At least my users can understand, that it is possible to write anything
in various header.

Also I use DSPAM (mail/dspam) for opt-in spam filtering and it works
very well for users who care to train it.

Plus I reject a lot of spam at incoming SMTP server.

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Re: Spam problem!

2006-05-29 Thread Garrett Cooper

Igor Robul wrote:

On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 07:53:12AM -0700, Olga Zenkova wrote:
  

mailboxes with field To: user3 in it. There are no
user1 or user2 in this field. Is it possible to cut
off these letters? Especially it is difficult to
explain for user1 and user2 why they got letters
addressed not for them.


Just show them Envelope-To: header in Outlook :-)
At least my users can understand, that it is possible to write anything
in various header.

Also I use DSPAM (mail/dspam) for opt-in spam filtering and it works
very well for users who care to train it.

Plus I reject a lot of spam at incoming SMTP server.
  
SMTP with SSL/TLS and authentication for a network works wonders.. 
blocks many unauthorized programs that utilize locally run SMTP servers 
(ie spyware, virii, etc).

-Garrett
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Re: Spam problem!

2006-05-29 Thread GiL Virtucio
Spam?i love spam :) it's very yummy on wheat bread and it's even better if
you add egg and cheese :P

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 On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 07:53:12AM -0700, Olga Zenkova wrote:
  mailboxes with field To: user3 in it. There are no
  user1 or user2 in this field. Is it possible to cut
  off these letters? Especially it is difficult to
  explain for user1 and user2 why they got letters
  addressed not for them

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Re: Spam problem!

2006-05-25 Thread Bill Moran
Olga Zenkova [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I use sendmail 8.13.3 and gather full log of its work.
 I see such strings in it:
 
  RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  250 2.1.5 user1domain.com... Recipient ok
  RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  250 2.1.5 user2domain.com... Recipient ok
  DATA
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 where user1, user2 - users names
 domain.com - domain name
 
 After that user1 and user2 get spam letters to their
 mailboxes with field To: user3 in it. There are no
 user1 or user2 in this field. Is it possible to cut
 off these letters? Especially it is difficult to
 explain for user1 and user2 why they got letters
 addressed not for them.

Spam prevention is a _huge_ topic.  Mainly because everything and anything
you do to try to prevent spam, spammers will work to circumvent.

I would suggest lots and lots of reading on the problem.  Research spamcop,
spamassassin, greylisting to start, plus any links that those point you
to.  You've got a lot of work on your hands to understand the problem
and effectively prevent it.

Alternatively, you can purchase a commercial solution.  There are many
appliances available.  Or you could hire an experienced consultant to
set up spam blocking on your existing server.

Good luck.

-- 
Bill Moran

Time for some thrilling heroics.

Jayne Cobb

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Re: Spam problem!

2006-05-25 Thread Derek Ragona
There are many ways to combat spam.  One of the easiest is to use 
mailscanner in the ports.


You can configure mailscanner to compare senders against known lists of 
SPAMers, in addition to it's own rules.


-Derek


At 09:53 AM 5/25/2006, Olga Zenkova wrote:

I use sendmail 8.13.3 and gather full log of its work.
I see such strings in it:

 RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 250 2.1.5 user1domain.com... Recipient ok
 RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 250 2.1.5 user2domain.com... Recipient ok
 DATA
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

where user1, user2 - users names
domain.com - domain name

After that user1 and user2 get spam letters to their
mailboxes with field To: user3 in it. There are no
user1 or user2 in this field. Is it possible to cut
off these letters? Especially it is difficult to
explain for user1 and user2 why they got letters
addressed not for them.

Thanks!
Olga Zenkova



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Re: Spam problem!

2006-05-25 Thread Adrian Pavone

Derek Ragona wrote:
There are many ways to combat spam.  One of the easiest is to use 
mailscanner in the ports.


You can configure mailscanner to compare senders against known lists 
of SPAMers, in addition to it's own rules.


-Derek


At 09:53 AM 5/25/2006, Olga Zenkova wrote:

I use sendmail 8.13.3 and gather full log of its work.
I see such strings in it:

 RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 250 2.1.5 user1domain.com... Recipient ok
 RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 250 2.1.5 user2domain.com... Recipient ok
 DATA
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

where user1, user2 - users names
domain.com - domain name

After that user1 and user2 get spam letters to their
mailboxes with field To: user3 in it. There are no
user1 or user2 in this field. Is it possible to cut
off these letters? Especially it is difficult to
explain for user1 and user2 why they got letters
addressed not for them.

Thanks!
Olga Zenkova



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Ohh, this reminds me of my ISP tech support days. Having to explain to 
illiterates what a BCC is ...


Yeah, I think even sendmail has a mail filter available if you want to 
configure it. There are many anti-spam methods available at the server. 
I recommend finding one with greylisting built in

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Re: Spam problem!

2006-05-25 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 07:53:12AM -0700, Olga Zenkova wrote:
 I use sendmail 8.13.3 and gather full log of its work.
 I see such strings in it:
 
  RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  250 2.1.5 user1domain.com... Recipient ok
  RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  250 2.1.5 user2domain.com... Recipient ok
  DATA
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 where user1, user2 - users names
 domain.com - domain name
 
 After that user1 and user2 get spam letters to their
 mailboxes with field To: user3 in it. There are no
 user1 or user2 in this field. Is it possible to cut
 off these letters? Especially it is difficult to
 explain for user1 and user2 why they got letters
 addressed not for them.

I can advise you to use mail/spamass-milter for you mail server. If your
clients gain there mail though pop3 then you can use
mail/p5-Mail-SpamAssassin as a (getmail) filter. It realy realy good. I
only had one false positive once.

You can reject spammails if you like. Don't send bounce messages since
these will not end up with the spammers but those who abuse the email
adress.
-- 
Alex

Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply.

Howtos based on my personal use, including information about 
setting up a firewall and creating traffic graphs with MRTG
http://alex.kruijff.org/FreeBSD/

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Re: Spam problem!

2006-05-25 Thread Mikhail Goriachev
Adrian Pavone wrote:
 Derek Ragona wrote:
 There are many ways to combat spam.  One of the easiest is to use
 mailscanner in the ports.

 You can configure mailscanner to compare senders against known lists
 of SPAMers, in addition to it's own rules.

 -Derek


 At 09:53 AM 5/25/2006, Olga Zenkova wrote:
 I use sendmail 8.13.3 and gather full log of its work.
 I see such strings in it:

  RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  250 2.1.5 user1domain.com... Recipient ok
  RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  250 2.1.5 user2domain.com... Recipient ok
  DATA
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 where user1, user2 - users names
 domain.com - domain name

 After that user1 and user2 get spam letters to their
 mailboxes with field To: user3 in it. There are no
 user1 or user2 in this field. Is it possible to cut
 off these letters? Especially it is difficult to
 explain for user1 and user2 why they got letters
 addressed not for them.

 Thanks!
 Olga Zenkova



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 MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support.

 Ohh, this reminds me of my ISP tech support days. Having to explain to
 illiterates what a BCC is ...
 
 Yeah, I think even sendmail has a mail filter available if you want to
 configure it. There are many anti-spam methods available at the server.
 I recommend finding one with greylisting built in


I had to get rid off greylisting (even though it sounds wicked). It took
me a few months to realise that some legitimate mail was getting lost
due to senders' weird configuration on SMTP level. Also sometimes I was
getting very long delays and it was unacceptable by the users.

I use a mix of sendmail, spamass-milter and spamassassin. It quietly
accepts spam and delivers it marked as such but never bounces. It does a
great job, can't complain, but 1% manages to get through from time to
time. Also, once in awhile legitimate mail gets marked and this is where
whitelisting comes in handy.

Cheers,
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RE: Spam on the list

2006-03-16 Thread Timothy Radigan
I have to agree.  I thought my spam filtering rules got messed up in my mail
client, but after further investigation I noticed that they were fine.

Any thoughts? 

-Original Message-
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Subject: Spam on the list

Lately I have noticed a massive increase in SPAM on various FBSD lists.
 Do we not have some sort of filter?
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Re: Spam on the list

2006-03-16 Thread Daniel A.
Yes indeed, this spam is sent to the list itself.
I was very puzzled when I woke up this morning.

The spam seems to be in russian.

On 3/16/06, Timothy Radigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have to agree.  I thought my spam filtering rules got messed up in my mail
 client, but after further investigation I noticed that they were fine.

 Any thoughts?

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 Subject: Spam on the list

 Lately I have noticed a massive increase in SPAM on various FBSD lists.
  Do we not have some sort of filter?
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Re: Spam on the list

2006-03-16 Thread Bill Campbell
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006, Peter Thoenen wrote:
Lately I have noticed a massive increase in SPAM on various FBSD lists.
 Do we not have some sort of filter?

True enough.

It would probably help a lot if the list owner installed the spamassassin
plugin in their Mailman.  We're using this on several technical mailing
lists we host, and it has done a great job of limiting the quantity of spam
that makes it through to the lists.

Bill
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Re: Spam on the list

2006-03-16 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Peter Thoenen wrote:


Lately I have noticed a massive increase in SPAM on various FBSD lists.
Do we not have some sort of filter?



On 3/16/06, Timothy Radigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have to agree.  I thought my spam filtering rules got messed up in my mail
client, but after further investigation I noticed that they were fine.



Any thoughts?
 



Daniel A. wrote:


Yes indeed, this spam is sent to the list itself.
I was very puzzled when I woke up this morning.

The spam seems to be in russian.
 



Ah, then, it's working!!  /evil-laugh 


Just kidding.  I'm pretty sure that some spam filtering is/has
been done in the past.  IIRC, it's one reason that the FBSD
MX's run (ran?) Postfix. I imagine that the filters are still in
place ... these lists have such a long history on the 'Net, and
are very public (with archives all over), so spam bots could
hardly avoid grabbing the list addresses .

So, either the spam is smarter, or something's regressed.
And, actually, most of what I'm seeing is English, and from
a similar source.  So, the other possibility, besides random spam,
is that ... well, I'll let you guess, but it also happens occasionally.

Most likely it will be temporary; I'd be fairly confident that
somebody with control of said server is or will soon be aware
of the issue and is doing or will soon do something about it.

Kevin Kinsey

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Re: Spam on the list

2006-03-16 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 07:03:24AM -0800, Peter Thoenen wrote:
 Lately I have noticed a massive increase in SPAM on various FBSD lists.
  Do we not have some sort of filter?

I think it broke after upgrading it to a newer version.  It should be
fixed soon.

Kris


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Re: !!***SPAM***!! AMD64 X2 Dual and RAM

2006-01-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 12:32:55AM +0200, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote:
  
 Hi,
  
 Will start to using AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+
 (2188.80-MHz K8-class CPU) , I installed freebsd 6.0 and I can see that
 FreeBSD can see the cpu with correct name 
  
 Jan 21 02:20:27 spma2 kernel: CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor
 4400+ (2188.80-MHz K8-class CPU)
 Jan 21 02:20:27 spma2 kernel: Origin = AuthenticAMD  Id = 0x20f32
 Stepping = 2
 Jan 21 02:20:27 spma2 kernel:
 Features=0x178bfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA
 ,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MM
 X,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT
 Jan 21 02:20:27 spma2 kernel: Features2=0x1SSE3
 Jan 21 02:20:27 spma2 kernel: AMD
 Features=0xe2500800SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,b25,LM,3DNow+,3DNow
 Jan 21 02:20:27 spma2 kernel: Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs
  
 But when I checked top out I couldn't see C column .. also I added  options
 SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel line to kernel
 conf and compile it still I couldn't see system work like two cpu ? 
  
 I know FreeBSD habe amd64 compatible (including OpteronT, Athlon 64, and
 EM64T) , but this cpu call like AMD AthlonT 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor  
 not   AMD AthlonT 64 Processor   
  
 Any knowledge about this  ? 

This is a FAQ.  You probably need a BIOS update to allow FreeBSD to
see and use the second core.

 And system can't see more then 3gb ram ?

Sure it can.

Kris

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Re: {Spam?} Re: patches and uname -a

2006-01-12 Thread Roberto Nunnari

Ceri Davies wrote:

On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 03:26:22PM +0100, Roberto Nunnari wrote:


Ceri Davies wrote:


On 12 Jan 2006, at 12:32, Roberto Nunnari wrote:



Hello.

Please also answer to my mailbox as I'm not on the list.

After upgrading by sources and build world, uname correctly
reports the current version of the system

Today for the first time I applied all the relevant patches
instead and all went well. The box was 5.3-RELEASE-p23.

The applied patches should correspond to 5.3-RELEASE-p24, but:

# uname -r
5.3-RELEASE-p23

and:

# sysctl kern.version
kern.version: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p23 #0: Tue Jan  3 15:40:08 CET 2006
...

I'd like to be able to see the correct version using
'uname -r'..

Does anybody know how can you make uname report the
real version? What if you recompile the kernel after
patching the system? Would that do the trick?



Recompiling the kernel is the correct way to change the output of  
uname(1), but before you do so, you should be aware that that patch  
number is taken from the BRANCH variable in src/sys/conf/newvers.sh.   
Check that it says 5.3-RELEASE-p24 before you waste time  recompiling 
the kernel.


Ceri


Thank you Ceri and Jaap for your time.

Ceri, edit src/sys/conf/newvers.sh and replace

BRANCH=RELEASE-p23
with
BRANCH=RELEASE-p24

would be enough??



That would work, but if you don't already have that string then there is
a possibility that you don't have all the patches, so please only change
it if you are %100 sure that you have.  I cannot stress that enough.

Ceri


I checked the patches (cpio.patch ee.patch texindex5x.patch) and none
of them tries to change src/sys/conf/newvers.sh nor src/UPDATING

Also, I checked the output while applying the patches and there
were no errors.

So.. as I didn't find any other patches that are post p23, I edited
newvers.sh, build a new kernel and rebooted. uname -r is now happy.

Thank you again.

Best regards.
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Re: {Spam?} Re: patches and uname -a

2006-01-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 1/12/06, Roberto Nunnari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ceri Davies wrote:

  That would work, but if you don't already have that string then there is
  a possibility that you don't have all the patches, so please only change
  it if you are %100 sure that you have.  I cannot stress that enough.

 I checked the patches (cpio.patch ee.patch texindex5x.patch) and none
 of them tries to change src/sys/conf/newvers.sh nor src/UPDATING

 So.. as I didn't find any other patches that are post p23, I edited
 newvers.sh, build a new kernel and rebooted. uname -r is now happy.

 If you had set it to
TYPE=FreeBSD
REVISION=9.1
BRANCH=STALE
You could run software from the future (some time in late 2009, I believe).
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Re: {Spam?} Re: patches and uname -a

2006-01-12 Thread Roberto Nunnari

Ceri Davies wrote:

On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 03:26:22PM +0100, Roberto Nunnari wrote:


Ceri Davies wrote:


On 12 Jan 2006, at 12:32, Roberto Nunnari wrote:



Hello.

Please also answer to my mailbox as I'm not on the list.

After upgrading by sources and build world, uname correctly
reports the current version of the system

Today for the first time I applied all the relevant patches
instead and all went well. The box was 5.3-RELEASE-p23.

The applied patches should correspond to 5.3-RELEASE-p24, but:

# uname -r
5.3-RELEASE-p23

and:

# sysctl kern.version
kern.version: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p23 #0: Tue Jan  3 15:40:08 CET 2006
...

I'd like to be able to see the correct version using
'uname -r'..

Does anybody know how can you make uname report the
real version? What if you recompile the kernel after
patching the system? Would that do the trick?



Recompiling the kernel is the correct way to change the output of  
uname(1), but before you do so, you should be aware that that patch  
number is taken from the BRANCH variable in src/sys/conf/newvers.sh.   
Check that it says 5.3-RELEASE-p24 before you waste time  recompiling 
the kernel.


Ceri


Thank you Ceri and Jaap for your time.

Ceri, edit src/sys/conf/newvers.sh and replace

BRANCH=RELEASE-p23
with
BRANCH=RELEASE-p24

would be enough??



That would work, but if you don't already have that string then there is
a possibility that you don't have all the patches, so please only change
it if you are %100 sure that you have.  I cannot stress that enough.

Ceri



Answering to myself..
Probably the best thing to do is to use anoncvs to checkout the
two files (UPDATING and newvers.sh) and put them in their place
before making the new kernel..

Again, best regards.
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Re: {Spam?} Re: patches and uname -a

2006-01-12 Thread Ceri Davies
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 09:04:07PM +0100, Roberto Nunnari wrote:
 
 I checked the patches (cpio.patch ee.patch texindex5x.patch) and none
 of them tries to change src/sys/conf/newvers.sh nor src/UPDATING

There is an ipfw one as well.

Cheers,

Ceri
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