Re: FreeBSD Boot
You can use "fdisk -B" to install non-interactive boot manager. Or you can use -t in boot0cfg to make timeout equals to zero. If after it you STILL have "F1" -- you probably boot from another drive: not da0 but da1. How many drives do you have? Check your BIOS settings to find which drive you boot from. Ilya. On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Michael Klapheke wrote: > Hi. I know this subject has been addressed in other posts, but I cannot > seem to get it to work. I have inherited a FreeBSD server and I cannot get > it to boot properly. I read the articles on avoiding having to press the F1 > key, and I tried to follow the suggestions (note, my disks are labeled > "da0s1" etc. instead of "ad0") as in the following: > > boot0cfg -B -b /boot/boot0 /dev/da0 > > or even > > fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 /dev/da0 > > Neither of these prevents the user from having to press the F1 key. > > I also read the tutorial on how FreeBSD boots, but I cannot find anything > that helps. > > Any assistance is appreciated. > > Thanks > > Mike > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot
On 21/03/2011 13:48, Michael Klapheke wrote:
Hi. I know this subject has been addressed in other posts, but I cannot seem to get it to work. I
have inherited a FreeBSD server and I cannot get it to boot properly. I read the articles on
avoiding having to press the F1 key, and I tried to follow the suggestions (note, my disks are
labeled "da0s1" etc. instead of "ad0") as in the following:
boot0cfg -B -b /boot/boot0 /dev/da0
or even
fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 /dev/da0
Neither of these prevents the user from having to press the F1 key.
It's not a configurable parameter of the boot loader, you need a
different boot loader ("default").
However, why is that a problem? The user doesn't *have* to press the F1
key, he can just wait 5 seconds or so and the boot will proceed with the
last boot choice.
I also read the tutorial on how FreeBSD boots, but I cannot find anything that
helps.
T think the relevant lines from boot0cfg(8) are:
To go back to non-interactive booting, use fdisk(8) to install the
default MBR:
fdisk -B ad0
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Re: FreeBSD Boot
Hi, you have a bootmanager installed. On Monday 21 March 2011 19:48:27 Michael Klapheke wrote: > Hi. I know this subject has been addressed in other posts, but I cannot seem > to get it to work. I have inherited a FreeBSD server and I cannot get it to > boot properly. I read the articles on avoiding having to press the F1 key, > and I tried to follow the suggestions (note, my disks are labeled "da0s1" > etc. instead of "ad0") as in the following: > da are SCSI disks, ad are ATA disks. > boot0cfg -B -b /boot/boot0 /dev/da0 > > or even > > fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 /dev/da0 > Just start sysinstall and write a plain mbr without a boot manager. > Neither of these prevents the user from having to press the F1 key. Of course not. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
FreeBSD Boot
Hi. I know this subject has been addressed in other posts, but I cannot seem to get it to work. I have inherited a FreeBSD server and I cannot get it to boot properly. I read the articles on avoiding having to press the F1 key, and I tried to follow the suggestions (note, my disks are labeled "da0s1" etc. instead of "ad0") as in the following: boot0cfg -B -b /boot/boot0 /dev/da0 or even fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 /dev/da0 Neither of these prevents the user from having to press the F1 key. I also read the tutorial on how FreeBSD boots, but I cannot find anything that helps. Any assistance is appreciated. Thanks Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
can't access FreeBSD boot CD data (but can boot just fine) using IP KVM "fake" drives
Most modern IP KVMs allow you to specify a ISO image, and they will feed it to the computer via USB and allow you to boot arbitrary "cds". However, I notice problems in both standard FreeBSD install discs and FreeBSD-based live CDs, wherein the CD will boot and run just fine, but when it comes time to read data off of the CD, the running system cannot access it. So, for instance, I boot with my KVM attached and I see this in dmesg: ums0: Startech.com server remote control device_attach: ums0 attach returned 6 and the system continues booting, but then: [*] Extracting filesystems /dist/mountcd: Can't open /dist/mountcd: No such file or directory [*] Error Extracting Filesystems (this was with ROFreeSBIE) With the plain old FreeBSD disc 1, I can go all the way through the install, but I cannot choose "CD/DVD" as install media, I have to ue the FTP option ... somehow I can boot up and use the install CD, but I cannot read any data on it. ... so my question is: What flags/options/whatever can I feed the booting CD, in the loader, to tell it "just keep using that same old USB CD" ? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD boot invalid partition
Ruben de Groot a écrit: > On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 09:51:39PM +0100, Michel Le Cocq typed: > > I just dump a real host and try to restore it on a virtual host under > > kvm. > > > > When booting under KVM i see this : > > Booting From hard Disk... > > Invalid partition > > Invalid partition > > No /boot/loader > > > > FreeBSD/i386/Boot > > Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel > > boot : > > > > If i enter : > > boot : 0:ad(0,d) > > > > it's ok and then : > > Manual Root Filesystem Specification : > > Mountroot> ufs:/dev/ad0s1d > > > > and it's finaly boot. > > > > [r...@vbsdio ~]# cat /etc/fstab > > # Device Mountpoint FStypeOptionsDump Pass# > > /dev/ad0s1b none swap sw0 0 > > /dev/ad0s1d / ufs rw1 1 > > /dev/ad0s1g /local ufs rw2 2 > > /dev/ad0s1e /usr ufs rw2 2 > > /dev/ad0s1f /var ufs rw2 2 > > /dev/acd0/cdrom cd9660ro,noauto 0 0 > > linproc /compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw0 0 > > [r...@vbsdio ~]# > > > > I need to change my master boot device or anything else. > > But don't know what to do exactly. > > Not sure, but I think boot0 only boots "a" partitions. So after > you manually boot like above, go into bsdlabel and change ad0s1d > into ad0s1a. Do the same in fstab. I boot under liveFS then : bsdlabel -e ad0s1 change 'd' label to 'a'. mount /dev/ad0s1a /mnt edit /mnt/etc/fstab and change mount point of / to a. It's now ok. Thanks a lot. -- Michel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD boot invalid partition
Michel Le Cocq wrote: I just dump a real host and try to restore it on a virtual host under kvm. When booting under KVM i see this : Booting From hard Disk... Invalid partition Invalid partition No /boot/loader FreeBSD/i386/Boot Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel boot : If i enter : boot : 0:ad(0,d) it's ok and then : Manual Root Filesystem Specification : Mountroot> ufs:/dev/ad0s1d and it's finaly boot. [r...@vbsdio ~]# cat /etc/fstab # Device Mountpoint FStypeOptionsDump Pass# /dev/ad0s1b none swap sw0 0 /dev/ad0s1d / ufs rw1 1 /dev/ad0s1g /local ufs rw2 2 /dev/ad0s1e /usr ufs rw2 2 /dev/ad0s1f /var ufs rw2 2 /dev/acd0/cdrom cd9660ro,noauto 0 0 linproc /compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw0 0 [r...@vbsdio ~]# I need to change my master boot device or anything else. But don't know what to do exactly. Thanks. -- Michel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" Shouldn't the root fs be on the a partition? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD boot invalid partition
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 09:51:39PM +0100, Michel Le Cocq typed: > I just dump a real host and try to restore it on a virtual host under > kvm. > > When booting under KVM i see this : > Booting From hard Disk... > Invalid partition > Invalid partition > No /boot/loader > > FreeBSD/i386/Boot > Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel > boot : > > If i enter : > boot : 0:ad(0,d) > > it's ok and then : > Manual Root Filesystem Specification : > Mountroot> ufs:/dev/ad0s1d > > and it's finaly boot. > > [r...@vbsdio ~]# cat /etc/fstab > # Device Mountpoint FStypeOptionsDump Pass# > /dev/ad0s1b none swap sw0 0 > /dev/ad0s1d/ ufs rw1 1 > /dev/ad0s1g/local ufs rw2 2 > /dev/ad0s1e/usr ufs rw2 2 > /dev/ad0s1f/var ufs rw2 2 > /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660ro,noauto 0 0 > linproc /compat/linux/proclinprocfs rw0 0 > [r...@vbsdio ~]# > > I need to change my master boot device or anything else. > But don't know what to do exactly. Not sure, but I think boot0 only boots "a" partitions. So after you manually boot like above, go into bsdlabel and change ad0s1d into ad0s1a. Do the same in fstab. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
FreeBSD boot invalid partition
I just dump a real host and try to restore it on a virtual host under kvm. When booting under KVM i see this : Booting From hard Disk... Invalid partition Invalid partition No /boot/loader FreeBSD/i386/Boot Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel boot : If i enter : boot : 0:ad(0,d) it's ok and then : Manual Root Filesystem Specification : Mountroot> ufs:/dev/ad0s1d and it's finaly boot. [r...@vbsdio ~]# cat /etc/fstab # Device Mountpoint FStypeOptionsDump Pass# /dev/ad0s1b none swap sw0 0 /dev/ad0s1d / ufs rw1 1 /dev/ad0s1g /local ufs rw2 2 /dev/ad0s1e /usr ufs rw2 2 /dev/ad0s1f /var ufs rw2 2 /dev/acd0/cdrom cd9660ro,noauto 0 0 linproc /compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw0 0 [r...@vbsdio ~]# I need to change my master boot device or anything else. But don't know what to do exactly. Thanks. -- Michel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Remove FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Sat, 11 Jul 2009, Daniel Underwood wrote: When I installed, I created a FreeBSD slice occupying my entire HD. I then created partitions occupying, together, my entire HD. In other words, I never intend to install another OS. I should have chosen *not* to install a boot manager, but I did. Is there anyway now to remove the boot manager, See the last part of the boot0cfg man page. More specifically, fdisk -B will do it. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Remove FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 05:26:09PM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote:
-> When I installed, I created a FreeBSD slice occupying my entire HD. I
-> then created partitions occupying, together, my entire HD. In other
-> words, I never intend to install another OS. I should have chosen
-> *not* to install a boot manager, but I did.
The boot manager doesn't hurt anything just being there. It takes up
only a sector that will not be used by anything else.
->
-> Is there anyway now to remove the boot manager, or at least set it to
-> automatically select an entry ("F1: FreeBSD" being the only entry)?
It does that automatically.It will always default to the last one
that you selected. So, it you have booted once and selected F1:FreeBSD
then that will automatically selected the next time unless you change it.
jerry
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Remove FreeBSD Boot Manager
When I installed, I created a FreeBSD slice occupying my entire HD. I
then created partitions occupying, together, my entire HD. In other
words, I never intend to install another OS. I should have chosen
*not* to install a boot manager, but I did.
Is there anyway now to remove the boot manager, or at least set it to
automatically select an entry ("F1: FreeBSD" being the only entry)?
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Re: configuring the freebsd boot manager
Ramiro Caso wrote: Hi everyone, I am having some problems understanding how the freebsd boot manager works. I have installed FreeBSD and Linux on the same laptop HD and want to be able to select which one to boot when the computer starts. I installed the bootmanager to to the MBR during installation and when I boot the laptop I am presented with four choices; F1 - FreeBSD F2 - Linux F3 - ??? F4 - Linux but I am only able to select F1, F2-F3 only make the laptop beep and doesnt load anything. The way I have set up the HD is for Partition 1 to be a FreeBSD Slice, Partition 2 the Linux / Partition 3 is Linux swap and Partition 4 is Linux /home. Any help would be great This is a silly question, actually: do you have LILO installed on your Linux boot partition? I have BootEasy on the MBR, and LILO on Linux boot, and it works just fine. Also: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/disks.html#BOOTEASY-LOADER Hi Ramiro, Thanks for the reply. I tried a new approach because I dont think Ubuntu uses LILO. So instead I installed GRUB to the MBR and added an entry for freebsd in /boot/grub/menu.lst title FreeBSD 7.1, RELEASE root (hd0,3,a) kernel /boot/loader quiet ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
RE: configuring the freebsd boot manager
> Hi everyone, > > I am having some problems understanding how the freebsd boot manager > works. I have installed FreeBSD and Linux on the same laptop HD and want > to be able to select which one to boot when the computer starts. I > installed the bootmanager to to the MBR during installation and when I > boot the laptop I am presented with four choices; > > F1 - FreeBSD > F2 - Linux > F3 - ??? > F4 - Linux > > but I am only able to select F1, F2-F3 only make the laptop beep and > doesnt load anything. The way I have set up the HD is for Partition 1 to > be a FreeBSD Slice, Partition 2 the Linux / Partition 3 is Linux swap > and Partition 4 is Linux /home. Any help would be great This is a silly question, actually: do you have LILO installed on your Linux boot partition? I have BootEasy on the MBR, and LILO on Linux boot, and it works just fine. Also: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/disks.html#BOOTEASY-LOADER > > thanks, > > Brett > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" _ Encontrá el auto de tus sueños en MSN http://xml.mercadolibre.com.ar/org-img/msn/autos.html___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
configuring the freebsd boot manager
Hi everyone, I am having some problems understanding how the freebsd boot manager works. I have installed FreeBSD and Linux on the same laptop HD and want to be able to select which one to boot when the computer starts. I installed the bootmanager to to the MBR during installation and when I boot the laptop I am presented with four choices; F1 - FreeBSD F2 - Linux F3 - ??? F4 - Linux but I am only able to select F1, F2-F3 only make the laptop beep and doesnt load anything. The way I have set up the HD is for Partition 1 to be a FreeBSD Slice, Partition 2 the Linux / Partition 3 is Linux swap and Partition 4 is Linux /home. Any help would be great thanks, Brett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
Da Rock wrote: On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote: Hi Mike, I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? What I am asking, is, somehting like: Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with: F1 Windows F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 -Grant Not a chance- why do you think you have to install Window$ first? Gates and his cronies aren't going to make it easy for you to install free software, and so they make it as hard as possible hoping you'll install Window$ and give up. That is completely off the wall wrong. You can install FreeBSD first and then Windows and you CAN fix the boot issue yourself with the cd OR you can add it to windows loader. you're just wrting the bootsector. not hard to do. I haven't heard of anywhere that any of the freeloaders (pardon the pun) that can boot a M$ system- only paid for software like Bootmagic. Or use the M$ loader in window$ to boot other systems- strange that it should be able to do that, but then most of the OSS is KISS based rather than the rigmarole M$ go to. Again, I could be outdated and/or wrong on this, but I doubt it has changed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:08:02AM -0500, Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:20:50 +1000 > Da Rock wrote: > > >On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote: > >> Hi Mike, > >> > >> I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? > >> > >> What I am asking, is, somehting like: > >> > >> Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using > >> the sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind > >> up with: > >> > >> F1 Windows > >> F2 FreeBSD > >> F5 Disk1 > >> > >> -Grant > > > >Not a chance- why do you think you have to install Window$ first? Gates > >and his cronies aren't going to make it easy for you to install free > >software, and so they make it as hard as possible hoping you'll install > >Window$ and give up. > > > >I haven't heard of anywhere that any of the freeloaders (pardon the > >pun) that can boot a M$ system- only paid for software like Bootmagic. > >Or use the M$ loader in window$ to boot other systems- strange that it > >should be able to do that, but then most of the OSS is KISS based > >rather than the rigmarole M$ go to. > > > >Again, I could be outdated and/or wrong on this, but I doubt it has > >changed. > > This primarily applies to Vista, although it might work with other > versions of Windows. It is possible to install FreeBSD or Linux, and > possibly other OS's prior to the installation of Microsoft's Windows. > > Check out these two URLs for further information. > > http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Linux > http://administratosphere.wordpress.com/2008/02/25/installing-grub-on-freebsd/ > > You will also need the "sysutils/grub" port installed. You can make it happen, but it is much more straightforward and less troublesome to leave the MS stuff as the first slice on the disk and put the other things after it reguardless of which MBR you use. jerry > > > -- > Jerry > ges...@yahoo.com > > Do not believe in miracles -- rely on them. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:20:50AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > > > I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? > > > > What I am asking, is, somehting like: > > > > Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the > > sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with: > > > > F1 Windows > > F2 FreeBSD > > F5 Disk1 > > > > -Grant > > Not a chance- why do you think you have to install Window$ first? Gates > and his cronies aren't going to make it easy for you to install free > software, and so they make it as hard as possible hoping you'll install > Window$ and give up. I don't think you read what he wrote carefully. You are right in your statement about MS having to be first and not accomodating any other system. But, for those very reasons, his statement is correct. He has Win already on the disk. He wants to use the _FreeBSD_ system to write the _FreeBSD_ MBR which will happily boot both MS-Win and FreeBSD. I boot MS quite regularly with the FreeBSD MBR. It is the standard recommended way of doing a dual boot. The machine on which I am presently typing is dual boot with MS-XP and FreeBSD and it uses only the FreeBSD MBR with no problem. jerry > > I haven't heard of anywhere that any of the freeloaders (pardon the pun) > that can boot a M$ system- only paid for software like Bootmagic. Or use > the M$ loader in window$ to boot other systems- strange that it should > be able to do that, but then most of the OSS is KISS based rather than > the rigmarole M$ go to. > > Again, I could be outdated and/or wrong on this, but I doubt it has > changed. > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:20:50 +1000 Da Rock wrote: >On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote: >> Hi Mike, >> >> I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? >> >> What I am asking, is, somehting like: >> >> Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using >> the sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind >> up with: >> >> F1 Windows >> F2 FreeBSD >> F5 Disk1 >> >> -Grant > >Not a chance- why do you think you have to install Window$ first? Gates >and his cronies aren't going to make it easy for you to install free >software, and so they make it as hard as possible hoping you'll install >Window$ and give up. > >I haven't heard of anywhere that any of the freeloaders (pardon the >pun) that can boot a M$ system- only paid for software like Bootmagic. >Or use the M$ loader in window$ to boot other systems- strange that it >should be able to do that, but then most of the OSS is KISS based >rather than the rigmarole M$ go to. > >Again, I could be outdated and/or wrong on this, but I doubt it has >changed. This primarily applies to Vista, although it might work with other versions of Windows. It is possible to install FreeBSD or Linux, and possibly other OS's prior to the installation of Microsoft's Windows. Check out these two URLs for further information. http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Linux http://administratosphere.wordpress.com/2008/02/25/installing-grub-on-freebsd/ You will also need the "sysutils/grub" port installed. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Do not believe in miracles -- rely on them. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? > > What I am asking, is, somehting like: > > Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the > sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with: > > F1 Windows > F2 FreeBSD > F5 Disk1 > > -Grant Not a chance- why do you think you have to install Window$ first? Gates and his cronies aren't going to make it easy for you to install free software, and so they make it as hard as possible hoping you'll install Window$ and give up. I haven't heard of anywhere that any of the freeloaders (pardon the pun) that can boot a M$ system- only paid for software like Bootmagic. Or use the M$ loader in window$ to boot other systems- strange that it should be able to do that, but then most of the OSS is KISS based rather than the rigmarole M$ go to. Again, I could be outdated and/or wrong on this, but I doubt it has changed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 21:44 -0500, Steve Bertrand wrote: > Grant Peel wrote: > > Can I use a windows install cd's "R" option to do the fdisk /mbr ? > > I don't know. > > It's been $years since I've had to use a Windows install CD for such a > thing. > > If it's win32, my experience would have me recommend just booting from a > floppy of a win boot disk to restore the MBR. It's just quick that way. > If my memory serves right, even a win98 boot disk should work. If memory serves, I believe there is an option to simply go to cli and all the tools are there on the cd ready for you. I could be wrong or outdated though- probably both... :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
[Fwd: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager]
--- Begin Message --- On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? > > What I am asking, is, somehting like: > > Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the > sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with: > > F1 Windows > F2 FreeBSD > F5 Disk1 > > -Grant Not a chance- why do you think you have to install Window$ first? Gates and his cronies aren't going to make it easy for you to install free software, and so they make it as hard as possible hoping you'll install Window$ and give up. I haven't heard of anywhere that any of the freeloaders (pardon the pun) that can boot a M$ system- only paid for software like Bootmagic. Or use the M$ loader in window$ to boot other systems- strange that it should be able to do that, but then most of the OSS is KISS based rather than the rigmarole M$ go to. Again, I could be outdated and/or wrong on this, but I doubt it has changed. --- End Message --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
[Fwd: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager]
--- Begin Message --- On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? > > What I am asking, is, somehting like: > > Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the > sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with: > > F1 Windows > F2 FreeBSD > F5 Disk1 > > -Grant Not a chance- why do you think you have to install Window$ first? Gates and his cronies aren't going to make it easy for you to install free software, and so they make it as hard as possible hoping you'll install Window$ and give up. I haven't heard of anywhere that any of the freeloaders (pardon the pun) that can boot a M$ system- only paid for software like Bootmagic. Or use the M$ loader in window$ to boot other systems- strange that it should be able to do that, but then most of the OSS is KISS based rather than the rigmarole M$ go to. Again, I could be outdated and/or wrong on this, but I doubt it has changed. --- End Message --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
[Fwd: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager]
--- Begin Message --- On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 21:44 -0500, Steve Bertrand wrote: > Grant Peel wrote: > > Can I use a windows install cd's "R" option to do the fdisk /mbr ? > > I don't know. > > It's been $years since I've had to use a Windows install CD for such a > thing. > > If it's win32, my experience would have me recommend just booting from a > floppy of a win boot disk to restore the MBR. It's just quick that way. > If my memory serves right, even a win98 boot disk should work. If memory serves, I believe there is an option to simply go to cli and all the tools are there on the cd ready for you. I could be wrong or outdated though- probably both... :) --- End Message --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
gpeel wrote: > Hi all, > > Jusat to answer Mike's question, nothing is working to get the MBR and > Windows boot back. [snip] I know it won't help you now, but for the general case: It is a very good idea to save MBRs. Restoring an MBR is a quick and painless way to bring back a former state of affairs. -- Tore ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
Jerry,
Maybe true. When this all started I used the ISO disk from the Symantec site
to remove GoBack. I assumed in doing so ('unhooking GoBack from the MBR),
that it would replace the original windows one.
It may also be worth noting that this disk -had- a recovery partition on it
once upon a time. I have not idea weather this plays a parts in the latest
woes.
Either way, I need to save the data (as I mentioed \I am doing), dd the disk
to clear everything, and reinstall.
No biggies since I have not lost any data :-)
Thanks for all the help and I ideas though, this has been a learning safari!
-Grant
- Original Message -
From: "Jerry McAllister"
To: "gpeel"
Cc: "Jerry McAllister" ; "Michael Copeland"
;
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 12:52:07PM -0500, gpeel wrote:
Hi all,
Jusat to answer Mike's question, nothing is working to get the MBR and
Windows boot back.
I ahve been to the windows recovery console many times and ran the
Fixboot,
Fixmbr commands, being very meticulous about the paramaters etc.
I ahve also tried reinstalling the FreeBSD boot manager, and rerunning
the
Norton GoBack unhook.
If you read through my post on this, note the scenario I narrated.
It is quite possible that every time you run that GoBack thing, it
is putting back the wrong MBR from its corrupted stash.
jerry
When I run the recovery console, and do the fixmbr, I get messages about
the
current MBR not being standard, and that if I install a new one, I may
loose
the partitions. So far, that is not true. The windows partition is still
there, but not being used to boot.
Fortuneatley, I can see my windows partition in KNoppix, so I am in the
process of getting the data moved to a backup drive. Indeed, I am
writting
this email through Konquerer!
Thank god for live file systems.
-Grant
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:30:53 -0500, Michael Copeland wrote
> Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:33:12PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Can I use a windows install cd's "R" option to do the fdisk /mbr ?
> >>
> >
> > Maybe.But, MS software is notorious for not recognizing any
> > other OSen nor being able to boot them So, use the FreeBSD fdisk
> > which will plant the FreeBSD MBR.
> >
> > jerry
> >
> >
> has this issue been resolved? what route did you choose to
> accomplish your task?
> >
> >> -Grant
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Kurt Buff"
> >> To: "Grant Peel"
> >> Cc:
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:23 PM
> >> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel
wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with
FreeBSD
> >>>> 6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box.
> >>>>
> >>>> In that machine, there is one SATA drive.
> >>>>
> >>>> On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided
> >>>> to
try
> >>>> putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it.
> >>>>
> >>>> During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The
install
> >>>> went flawlessly.
> >>>>
> >>>> The problem is, when I boot up I get:
> >>>>
> >>>> F1 ??
> >>>> F2 FreeBSD
> >>>> F5 Disk1
> >>>>
> >>>> F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots
> >>>> perfectly.
> >>>> F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller.
> >>>>
> >>>> F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I
simply
> >>>> get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens.
> >>>>
> >>>> Like this:
> >>>>
> >>>> F1 ??
> >>>> F2 FreeBSD
> >>>> F5 Disk1
> >>>> _
> >>>>
> >>>> Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again?
> >>>>
> >>>> It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the
> >>>> disk
> >>>> before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does
anything
> >>>> to the booting system.
> >>>>
> >>>> All suggestions welcome,
> >>>>
> >>>> -Grant
> >>>>
> >&
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 12:52:07PM -0500, gpeel wrote: > Hi all, > > Jusat to answer Mike's question, nothing is working to get the MBR and > Windows boot back. > > I ahve been to the windows recovery console many times and ran the Fixboot, > Fixmbr commands, being very meticulous about the paramaters etc. > > I ahve also tried reinstalling the FreeBSD boot manager, and rerunning the > Norton GoBack unhook. If you read through my post on this, note the scenario I narrated. It is quite possible that every time you run that GoBack thing, it is putting back the wrong MBR from its corrupted stash. jerry > > When I run the recovery console, and do the fixmbr, I get messages about the > current MBR not being standard, and that if I install a new one, I may loose > the partitions. So far, that is not true. The windows partition is still > there, but not being used to boot. > > Fortuneatley, I can see my windows partition in KNoppix, so I am in the > process of getting the data moved to a backup drive. Indeed, I am writting > this email through Konquerer! > > Thank god for live file systems. > > -Grant > > On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:30:53 -0500, Michael Copeland wrote > > Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:33:12PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Can I use a windows install cd's "R" option to do the fdisk /mbr ? > > >> > > > > > > Maybe.But, MS software is notorious for not recognizing any > > > other OSen nor being able to boot them So, use the FreeBSD fdisk > > > which will plant the FreeBSD MBR. > > > > > > jerry > > > > > > > > has this issue been resolved? what route did you choose to > > accomplish your task? > > > > > >> -Grant > > >> > > >> - Original Message - > > >> From: "Kurt Buff" > > >> To: "Grant Peel" > > >> Cc: > > >> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:23 PM > > >> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel > wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Hi all, > > >>>> > > >>>> I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with > FreeBSD > > >>>> 6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box. > > >>>> > > >>>> In that machine, there is one SATA drive. > > >>>> > > >>>> On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to > try > > >>>> putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. > > >>>> > > >>>> During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The > install > > >>>> went flawlessly. > > >>>> > > >>>> The problem is, when I boot up I get: > > >>>> > > >>>> F1 ?? > > >>>> F2 FreeBSD > > >>>> F5 Disk1 > > >>>> > > >>>> F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots > > >>>> perfectly. > > >>>> F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller. > > >>>> > > >>>> F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I > simply > > >>>> get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens. > > >>>> > > >>>> Like this: > > >>>> > > >>>> F1 ?? > > >>>> F2 FreeBSD > > >>>> F5 Disk1 > > >>>> _ > > >>>> > > >>>> Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? > > >>>> > > >>>> It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk > > >>>> before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does > anything > > >>>> to the booting system. > > >>>> > > >>>> All suggestions welcome, > > >>>> > > >>>> -Grant > > >>>> > > >>> www.bootdisk.com > > >>> > > >>> Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and > > >>> write it out to a floppy disk. > > >>> > > >>> Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk > > >>> /mbr' - it
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
Hi all, Jusat to answer Mike's question, nothing is working to get the MBR and Windows boot back. I ahve been to the windows recovery console many times and ran the Fixboot, Fixmbr commands, being very meticulous about the paramaters etc. I ahve also tried reinstalling the FreeBSD boot manager, and rerunning the Norton GoBack unhook. When I run the recovery console, and do the fixmbr, I get messages about the current MBR not being standard, and that if I install a new one, I may loose the partitions. So far, that is not true. The windows partition is still there, but not being used to boot. Fortuneatley, I can see my windows partition in KNoppix, so I am in the process of getting the data moved to a backup drive. Indeed, I am writting this email through Konquerer! Thank god for live file systems. -Grant On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:30:53 -0500, Michael Copeland wrote > Jerry McAllister wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:33:12PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote: > > > > > >> Can I use a windows install cd's "R" option to do the fdisk /mbr ? > >> > > > > Maybe.But, MS software is notorious for not recognizing any > > other OSen nor being able to boot them So, use the FreeBSD fdisk > > which will plant the FreeBSD MBR. > > > > jerry > > > > > has this issue been resolved? what route did you choose to > accomplish your task? > > > >> -Grant > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Kurt Buff" > >> To: "Grant Peel" > >> Cc: > >> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:23 PM > >> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager > >> > >> > >> > >>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi all, > >>>> > >>>> I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD > >>>> 6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box. > >>>> > >>>> In that machine, there is one SATA drive. > >>>> > >>>> On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try > >>>> putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. > >>>> > >>>> During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install > >>>> went flawlessly. > >>>> > >>>> The problem is, when I boot up I get: > >>>> > >>>> F1 ?? > >>>> F2 FreeBSD > >>>> F5 Disk1 > >>>> > >>>> F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots > >>>> perfectly. > >>>> F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller. > >>>> > >>>> F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply > >>>> get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens. > >>>> > >>>> Like this: > >>>> > >>>> F1 ?? > >>>> F2 FreeBSD > >>>> F5 Disk1 > >>>> _ > >>>> > >>>> Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? > >>>> > >>>> It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk > >>>> before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything > >>>> to the booting system. > >>>> > >>>> All suggestions welcome, > >>>> > >>>> -Grant > >>>> > >>> www.bootdisk.com > >>> > >>> Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and > >>> write it out to a floppy disk. > >>> > >>> Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk > >>> /mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot > >>> again. > >>> > >>> Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD > >>> installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome > >>> that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager. > >>> > >>> Kurt > >>> ___ > >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > >>> > >>> > >> ___ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > >> > > ___ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
Jerry McAllister wrote: On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:33:12PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote: Can I use a windows install cd's "R" option to do the fdisk /mbr ? Maybe.But, MS software is notorious for not recognizing any other OSen nor being able to boot them So, use the FreeBSD fdisk which will plant the FreeBSD MBR. jerry has this issue been resolved? what route did you choose to accomplish your task? -Grant - Original Message - From: "Kurt Buff" To: "Grant Peel" Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:23 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel wrote: Hi all, I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD 6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box. In that machine, there is one SATA drive. On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install went flawlessly. The problem is, when I boot up I get: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots perfectly. F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller. F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens. Like this: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 _ Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the booting system. All suggestions welcome, -Grant www.bootdisk.com Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and write it out to a floppy disk. Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk /mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot again. Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager. Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
From the point the message below, I would set up freebsd to give me a graphical gui so I can use gparted to unflag the bsd partition as boot and flag the windows as boot. Before restarting, I would copy /boot/boot1 to somewhere accessible by windows named something like freebsd.boot. Then I'd set up the NT boot loader: right click on my computer... properties... advance tab... startup and recovery settings... click edit and add line c:\freebsd.boot="FreeBSD" ---> filename of what /boot/boot1 was copied to. This should have gotten to dual booting windows and freebsd, but using the nt boot loader. Original Message ---- Subject: FreeBSD Boot Manager Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 20:17:15 -0500 From: Grant Peel To: Hi all, I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD 6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box. In that machine, there is one SATA drive. On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install went flawlessly. The problem is, when I boot up I get: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots perfectly. F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller. F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens. Like this: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 _ Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the booting system. All suggestions welcome, -Grant ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:33:12PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote: > Can I use a windows install cd's "R" option to do the fdisk /mbr ? Maybe.But, MS software is notorious for not recognizing any other OSen nor being able to boot them So, use the FreeBSD fdisk which will plant the FreeBSD MBR. jerry > > -Grant > > - Original Message - > From: "Kurt Buff" > To: "Grant Peel" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:23 PM > Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager > > > >On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel wrote: > >>Hi all, > >> > >>I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD > >>6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box. > >> > >>In that machine, there is one SATA drive. > >> > >>On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try > >>putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. > >> > >>During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install > >>went flawlessly. > >> > >>The problem is, when I boot up I get: > >> > >>F1 ?? > >>F2 FreeBSD > >>F5 Disk1 > >> > >>F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots > >>perfectly. > >>F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller. > >> > >>F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply > >>get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens. > >> > >>Like this: > >> > >>F1 ?? > >>F2 FreeBSD > >>F5 Disk1 > >>_ > >> > >>Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? > >> > >>It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk > >>before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything > >>to the booting system. > >> > >>All suggestions welcome, > >> > >>-Grant > > > >www.bootdisk.com > > > >Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and > >write it out to a floppy disk. > > > >Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk > >/mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot > >again. > > > >Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD > >installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome > >that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager. > > > >Kurt > >___ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 09:53:51AM -0500, Grant Peel wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? > > What I am asking, is, somehting like: > > Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the > sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with: > > F1 Windows > F2 FreeBSD > F5 Disk1 Yup. But, as I said in a previous post, use fixit and fdisk. The F1 choice will probably say either DOS or ?? instead of Windows.DOS if it is a FAT or FAT32 file system, ?? if it is an NTSF file system. jerry > > -Grant > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Copeland" > To: "Grant Peel" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:44 AM > Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager > > > >why not just add loader or whatever to the windows boot loader.. unless > >you specifically need fbsd boot manager > > > >Grant Peel wrote: > >>Hi all, > >> > >>For those that have been following this thread: > >> > >>I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR > >>-Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk, > >>-The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR, > >> -It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager install), > >> -So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original C-Drive, > >> > >>-As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system, > >>-FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but, > >> > >>-I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation. > >> > >>Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot manager > >>again? > >> > >>THanks all, > >> > >>-Grant > >>- Original Message - From: "Steve Bertrand" > >>To: "Grant Peel" > >>Cc: "Kurt Buff" ; > >>Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM > >>Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager > >> > >> > >>>Grant Peel wrote: > >>>>So then, > >>>> > >>>>IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, > >>>>should > >>>>we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then, > >>>>use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager? > >>> > >>>Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at. > >>> > >>>Steve > >>>___ > >>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>>"freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >>___ > >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>"freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > >___ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 09:40:58AM -0500, Grant Peel wrote: > Hi all, > > For those that have been following this thread: > > I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR > -Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk, > -The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR, >-It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager install), >-So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original C-Drive, > > -As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system, > -FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but, > > -I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation. > > Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot manager again? Boot fixit from CD. Do: fdisk -B or maybe you need: fdisk -iB Then try to reboot. These should only affect sector 0 which is where the MBR goes. What is screwing you up is that Norton GoBack. I haven't used it, but it probably works like previous recovery utilities for Norton. It rewrites the MBR to only boot its own stuff instead of a standard system boot and clobbers anything else there.It is supposed to stash the original MBR somewhere and later put it back. But it doesn't always work. If it is initiated twice in a row, for example, it saves the MBR and writes its own. Then the next time it saves the MBR (which is its own) which clobbers the original that it stashed away and then writes its own MBR in the stash, thus making both copies be its own MBR and the original is trashed. This is just one example of the way it can screw up that I have encountered (- and fixed using the FreeBSD fixit, even though it was an all Windows machine with no FreeBSD on it). There are probably more scenarios that end up with a similarly trashed MBR from GoBack. So, just try getting FreeBSD fixit to fix it. jerry > > THanks all, > > -Grant > - Original Message - > From: "Steve Bertrand" > To: "Grant Peel" > Cc: "Kurt Buff" ; > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM > Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager > > > >Grant Peel wrote: > >>So then, > >> > >>IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should > >>we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then, > >>use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager? > > > >Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at. > > > >Steve > >___ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:37:28PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote: > So then, > > IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should we > not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then, use > Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager? Maybe, but better to boot up the fixit and use fdisk to restore it. jerry > > -Grant > > - Original Message - > From: "Steve Bertrand" > To: "Kurt Buff" > Cc: "Grant Peel" ; > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:33 PM > Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager > > > >Kurt Buff wrote: > >>On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel wrote: > > > >>>On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try > >>>putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. > >>> > >>>During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install > >>>went flawlessly. > > > >>>Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? > >>> > >>>It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk > >>>before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything > >>>to the booting system. > > > >>www.bootdisk.com > >> > >>Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and > >>write it out to a floppy disk. > >> > >>Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk > >>/mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot > >>again. > >> > >>Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD > >>installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome > >>that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager. > > > >Technically (theoretically) speaking, using a Win32 boot disk to fdisk > >/mbr, he should be able to re-initialize the FBSD boot loader by going > >through the steps he did initially. > > > >AFAIR, Symantec GoBack, along with many other 'in-disk' restoration > >programs, overwrite the boot sector with its own code. > > > >If the OP can boot back into Windows with the fdisk /mbr, he has likely > >done both: > > > >- broke his GoBack program's ability to recover, and; > >- made it possible to restore the FBSD boot manager > > > >If Windows boots after following Kurt's recommendation of restoring the > >Windows MBR, back up your Windows system, then try FreeBSD again. > > > >You sound courageous, give 'er! > > > > > >Steve > > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 05:23:01PM -0800, Kurt Buff wrote: > On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD 6.4 > > on my Windows XP SP3 box. > > > > In that machine, there is one SATA drive. > > > > On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try > > putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. > > > > During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install > > went flawlessly. > > > > The problem is, when I boot up I get: > > > > F1 ?? > > F2 FreeBSD > > F5 Disk1 > > > > F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots > > perfectly. > > F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller. > > > > F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply get > > the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens. > > > > Like this: > > > > F1 ?? > > F2 FreeBSD > > F5 Disk1 > > _ > > > > Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? > > > > It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before > > I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the > > booting system. > > > > All suggestions welcome, > > > > -Grant > > www.bootdisk.com > > Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and > write it out to a floppy disk. > > Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk > /mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot > again. > > Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD > installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome > that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager. You should be able to do the same thing with a FreeBSD fixit. Sounds like something got corrupted with the MBR or a boot record somewhere. But, the FreeBSD MBR should boot XP just fine. The machine I am typing on is dual boot with FreeBSD and XP (plus a Dell maintenance slice).All boot with no problem using the FreeBSD MBR. So, using fdisk to reinstall the MBR might help. jerry > > Kurt > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
well, there are many "easy" ways. one is to install an IFS version of UFS, if you're using ufs. that way windows can read the ufs slices and you can grab your file that way. Grant Peel wrote: Mike, In order to do that, I need to be able to get the the "/boot/boot1" file that is located in the root of the FreeBSD installation. As of right now, I cant get to it, because I can't boot to FreeBSD (chicken and egg). Any ideas? -Grant In the instructions link you sent: 9.10. How can I use the Windows NT® loader to boot FreeBSD? The general idea is that you copy the first sector of your native root FreeBSD partition into a file in the DOS/Windows NT partition. Assuming you name that file something like c:\bootsect.bsd (inspired by c:\bootsect.dos), you can then edit the c:\boot.ini file to come up with something like this: [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows NT" C:\BOOTSECT.BSD="FreeBSD" C:\="DOS" If FreeBSD is installed on the same disk as the Windows NT boot partition simply copy /boot/boot1 to C:\BOOTSECT.BSD. However, if FreeBSD is installed on a different disk /boot/boot1 will not work, /boot/boot0 is needed. - Original Message - From: "Michael Copeland" To: "Grant Peel" Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:57 AM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager Hello Grant, What I am suggesting is adding a freebsd entry to your windows boot loader. it is quite easy. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/disks.html#NT-BOOTLOADER rather than having to deal with using sysinstall, usually its just as simple to add these entries to the windows loader. Grant Peel wrote: Hi Mike, I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? What I am asking, is, somehting like: Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with: F1 Windows F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 -Grant - Original Message - From: "Michael Copeland" To: "Grant Peel" Cc: Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:44 AM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager why not just add loader or whatever to the windows boot loader.. unless you specifically need fbsd boot manager Grant Peel wrote: Hi all, For those that have been following this thread: I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR -Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk, -The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR, -It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager install), -So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original C-Drive, -As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system, -FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but, -I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation. Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot manager again? THanks all, -Grant - Original Message - From: "Steve Bertrand" To: "Grant Peel" Cc: "Kurt Buff" ; Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager Grant Peel wrote: So then, IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then, use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager? Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
also, doing it the way i suggested will still give you the option to re-select windows, and then from there right back to freebsd is you accidentally hit the wrong button. creates a nice loop. eg: machine boots, windows shows you "Windows XP" or "FreeBSD" you select FreeBSD, you get the menu you want from there F1 FreeBSD F2 Microsoft Windows F5 DiskX Selecting windows will take you back to the windows loader, and then you could select windows or freebsd. Grant Peel wrote: Hi Mike, I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? What I am asking, is, somehting like: Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with: F1 Windows F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 -Grant - Original Message - From: "Michael Copeland" To: "Grant Peel" Cc: Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:44 AM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager why not just add loader or whatever to the windows boot loader.. unless you specifically need fbsd boot manager Grant Peel wrote: Hi all, For those that have been following this thread: I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR -Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk, -The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR, -It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager install), -So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original C-Drive, -As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system, -FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but, -I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation. Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot manager again? THanks all, -Grant - Original Message - From: "Steve Bertrand" To: "Grant Peel" Cc: "Kurt Buff" ; Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager Grant Peel wrote: So then, IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then, use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager? Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
Hi Mike, I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? What I am asking, is, somehting like: Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with: F1 Windows F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 -Grant - Original Message - From: "Michael Copeland" To: "Grant Peel" Cc: Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:44 AM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager why not just add loader or whatever to the windows boot loader.. unless you specifically need fbsd boot manager Grant Peel wrote: Hi all, For those that have been following this thread: I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR -Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk, -The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR, -It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager install), -So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original C-Drive, -As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system, -FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but, -I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation. Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot manager again? THanks all, -Grant - Original Message - From: "Steve Bertrand" To: "Grant Peel" Cc: "Kurt Buff" ; Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager Grant Peel wrote: So then, IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then, use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager? Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
why not just add loader or whatever to the windows boot loader.. unless you specifically need fbsd boot manager Grant Peel wrote: Hi all, For those that have been following this thread: I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR -Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk, -The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR, -It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager install), -So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original C-Drive, -As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system, -FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but, -I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation. Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot manager again? THanks all, -Grant - Original Message - From: "Steve Bertrand" To: "Grant Peel" Cc: "Kurt Buff" ; Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager Grant Peel wrote: So then, IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then, use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager? Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
Hi all, For those that have been following this thread: I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR -Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk, -The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR, -It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager install), -So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original C-Drive, -As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system, -FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but, -I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation. Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot manager again? THanks all, -Grant - Original Message - From: "Steve Bertrand" To: "Grant Peel" Cc: "Kurt Buff" ; Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager Grant Peel wrote: So then, IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then, use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager? Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
Grant Peel wrote: > Can I use a windows install cd's "R" option to do the fdisk /mbr ? I don't know. It's been $years since I've had to use a Windows install CD for such a thing. If it's win32, my experience would have me recommend just booting from a floppy of a win boot disk to restore the MBR. It's just quick that way. If my memory serves right, even a win98 boot disk should work. Why load up all of the unneeded Windows device drivers and other stuff, if you can just 'fix' it? IIRC, just to get to the `Recovery Console' (if you please) takes many, many minutes. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
Grant Peel wrote: > So then, > > IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should > we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then, > use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager? Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
So then, IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then, use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager? -Grant - Original Message - From: "Steve Bertrand" To: "Kurt Buff" Cc: "Grant Peel" ; Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:33 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager Kurt Buff wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel wrote: On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install went flawlessly. Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the booting system. www.bootdisk.com Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and write it out to a floppy disk. Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk /mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot again. Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager. Technically (theoretically) speaking, using a Win32 boot disk to fdisk /mbr, he should be able to re-initialize the FBSD boot loader by going through the steps he did initially. AFAIR, Symantec GoBack, along with many other 'in-disk' restoration programs, overwrite the boot sector with its own code. If the OP can boot back into Windows with the fdisk /mbr, he has likely done both: - broke his GoBack program's ability to recover, and; - made it possible to restore the FBSD boot manager If Windows boots after following Kurt's recommendation of restoring the Windows MBR, back up your Windows system, then try FreeBSD again. You sound courageous, give 'er! Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
Can I use a windows install cd's "R" option to do the fdisk /mbr ? -Grant - Original Message - From: "Kurt Buff" To: "Grant Peel" Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:23 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel wrote: Hi all, I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD 6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box. In that machine, there is one SATA drive. On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install went flawlessly. The problem is, when I boot up I get: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots perfectly. F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller. F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens. Like this: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 _ Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the booting system. All suggestions welcome, -Grant www.bootdisk.com Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and write it out to a floppy disk. Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk /mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot again. Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager. Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
Kurt Buff wrote: > On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel wrote: >> On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try >> putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. >> >> During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install >> went flawlessly. >> Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? >> >> It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before I >> installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the >> booting system. > www.bootdisk.com > > Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and > write it out to a floppy disk. > > Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk > /mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot > again. > > Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD > installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome > that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager. Technically (theoretically) speaking, using a Win32 boot disk to fdisk /mbr, he should be able to re-initialize the FBSD boot loader by going through the steps he did initially. AFAIR, Symantec GoBack, along with many other 'in-disk' restoration programs, overwrite the boot sector with its own code. If the OP can boot back into Windows with the fdisk /mbr, he has likely done both: - broke his GoBack program's ability to recover, and; - made it possible to restore the FBSD boot manager If Windows boots after following Kurt's recommendation of restoring the Windows MBR, back up your Windows system, then try FreeBSD again. You sound courageous, give 'er! Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel wrote: > Hi all, > > I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD 6.4 on > my Windows XP SP3 box. > > In that machine, there is one SATA drive. > > On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try > putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. > > During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install went > flawlessly. > > The problem is, when I boot up I get: > > F1 ?? > F2 FreeBSD > F5 Disk1 > > F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots perfectly. > F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller. > > F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply get > the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens. > > Like this: > > F1 ?? > F2 FreeBSD > F5 Disk1 > _ > > Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? > > It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before I > installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the booting > system. > > All suggestions welcome, > > -Grant www.bootdisk.com Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and write it out to a floppy disk. Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk /mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot again. Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager. Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
FreeBSD Boot Manager
Hi all, I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD 6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box. In that machine, there is one SATA drive. On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install went flawlessly. The problem is, when I boot up I get: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots perfectly. F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller. F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens. Like this: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 _ Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the booting system. All suggestions welcome, -Grant ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot optionsmenu
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 02:45:17PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Kevin Monceaux wrote: > > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > How would you like this one? > > > > > > http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/screenshot5.png > > > > > > (It's work in progress. See the latest FreeBSD Quarterly Status > > > Report.) > > > > When I recently came across info on the graphical boot loader project I > > secretly hoped that either the project would fail, or that at least the > > graphical boot loader would be optional. > > It will be optional. Note that we will also still support > serial console. > > > But, after seeing the above screenshot I think I might be able to get used > > to the boot loader pictured in that screenshot. The screenshot I came > > across with I first discovered the project recently: > > > > http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/screenshot.png > > > > looks nice, but is just a bit too modern for my tastes. > > You will be able to supply your own picture if you like. > I also expect that some people will create various kinds > of artwork (in the ports collection or elsewhere), so > there will be quite a few "themes" to choose frome. > > And if you still don't like it, a switch in loader.conf > will bring the old text menu back. > > Well, at least that's the plan. :-) Sounds great to me. Any prognosis info? jerry > > Best regards >Oliver > > -- > Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. > Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: > secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- > chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart > > FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd > > cat man du : where Unix geeks go when they die > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot optionsmenu
Kevin Monceaux wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > How would you like this one? > > > > http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/screenshot5.png > > > > (It's work in progress. See the latest FreeBSD Quarterly Status > > Report.) > > When I recently came across info on the graphical boot loader project I > secretly hoped that either the project would fail, or that at least the > graphical boot loader would be optional. It will be optional. Note that we will also still support serial console. > But, after seeing the above screenshot I think I might be able to get used > to the boot loader pictured in that screenshot. The screenshot I came > across with I first discovered the project recently: > > http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/screenshot.png > > looks nice, but is just a bit too modern for my tastes. You will be able to supply your own picture if you like. I also expect that some people will create various kinds of artwork (in the ports collection or elsewhere), so there will be quite a few "themes" to choose frome. And if you still don't like it, a switch in loader.conf will bring the old text menu back. Well, at least that's the plan. :-) Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd cat man du : where Unix geeks go when they die ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot optionsmenu
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008, Oliver Fromme wrote: How would you like this one? http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/screenshot5.png (It's work in progress. See the latest FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report.) When I recently came across info on the graphical boot loader project I secretly hoped that either the project would fail, or that at least the graphical boot loader would be optional. The text based boot loader and text based installer are to of the things I really like about FreeBSD. But, after seeing the above screenshot I think I might be able to get used to the boot loader pictured in that screenshot. The screenshot I came across with I first discovered the project recently: http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/screenshot.png looks nice, but is just a bit too modern for my tastes. I know, I'm old fashioned. I still prefer programs with text based user interfaces. I'm typing this e-mail in Alpine and my editor of choice is vim. Oh, and I work as an operator in an IBM mainframe shop where most of our "online" applications are still 3270 text terminal based. Now days we use terminal emulator software on PCs instead of actual 3179 terminals, but the apps are still text based, and still work fine on the few 3179 terminals we have left. Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes. Longum iter est per praecepta, breve et efficax per exempla!!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot optionsmenu
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:58:04 +0200 (CEST), Oliver Fromme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are more screen shots in the same directory: > > http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/ > > I'm sure you'll find one that is sufficiently less > conservative, whatever that means. ;-) > > It is intended that the user (or vendor) will be able > to use his own background image, so you can supply > your own. I hope there will be a german laguage variant so I don't need to hear this repeating "But it's in English, I want in German!" moaning anymore. :-) Great invention! Really! -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot optionsmenu
Oliver Fromme wrote: [snip] > > Its good to see my old friend back where he belongs > > How would you like this one? > > http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/screenshot5.png > > (It's work in progress. See the latest FreeBSD Quarterly > Status Report.) > > Best regards >Oliver > That's great! I like it. I was never enamored of the "sex toy" variant. "Chuckie" has always been my favorite. Thanks. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot optionsmenu
Ivan Voras wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > enom-FBSD1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > beastie_disable="NO" had no effect. > > > > That's because "NO" is already the default. Setting it > > to "YES" will completely disable the whole boot menu. > > > > > All that was needed was loader_logo="beastie" > > > which produced beastie in color > > > > > > Its good to see my old friend back where he belongs > > > > How would you like this one? > > > > http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/screenshot5.png > > > > (It's work in progress. See the latest FreeBSD Quarterly > > Status Report.) > > This is very good. I hope there will be less "conservative" variants :) There are more screen shots in the same directory: http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/ I'm sure you'll find one that is sufficiently less conservative, whatever that means. ;-) It is intended that the user (or vendor) will be able to use his own background image, so you can supply your own. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "I made up the term 'object-oriented', and I can tell you I didn't have C++ in mind." -- Alan Kay, OOPSLA '97 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot optionsmenu
Oliver Fromme wrote: > enom-FBSD1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > beastie_disable="NO" had no effect. > > That's because "NO" is already the default. Setting it > to "YES" will completely disable the whole boot menu. > > > All that was needed was loader_logo="beastie" > > which produced beastie in color > > > > Its good to see my old friend back where he belongs > > How would you like this one? > > http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/screenshot5.png > > (It's work in progress. See the latest FreeBSD Quarterly > Status Report.) This is very good. I hope there will be less "conservative" variants :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot optionsmenu
In response to Oliver Fromme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > How would you like this one? > > http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/screenshot5.png > > (It's work in progress. See the latest FreeBSD Quarterly > Status Report.) Oooohh ... spiffy! -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot optionsmenu
enom-FBSD1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > beastie_disable="NO" had no effect. That's because "NO" is already the default. Setting it to "YES" will completely disable the whole boot menu. > All that was needed was loader_logo="beastie" > which produced beastie in color > > Its good to see my old friend back where he belongs How would you like this one? http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/vloader/screenshot5.png (It's work in progress. See the latest FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report.) Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "[...] one observation we can make here is that Python makes an excellent pseudocoding language, with the wonderful attribute that it can actually be executed." -- Bruce Eckel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot optionsmenu
beastie_disable="NO" had no effect. All that was needed was loader_logo="beastie" which produced beastie in color Its good to see my old friend back where he belongs Thanks for your help. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Powell Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 5:16 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot optionsmenu enom-FBSD1 wrote: > Is there a way to reactivate the black and white beastie which used to > display to the right of the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot options menu? > Look at /boot/defaults/loader.conf for the following: #beastie_disable="NO" # Turn the beastie boot menu on and off #loader_logo="fbsdbw" # Desired logo: fbsdbw, beastiebw, beastie, none As always, put your overrides in /boot/loader.conf and leave the defaults alone. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot options menu
see man loader.conf Kind regards, Tom >- Oorspronkelijk bericht - >Van: enom-FBSD1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Verzonden: vrijdag, augustus 22, 2008 10:44 AM >Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG >Onderwerp: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot options menu > >Is there a way to reactivate the black and white beastie which used to >display to the right of the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot options menu? > >___ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot options menu
enom-FBSD1 wrote: > Is there a way to reactivate the black and white beastie which used to > display to the right of the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot options menu? > Look at /boot/defaults/loader.conf for the following: #beastie_disable="NO" # Turn the beastie boot menu on and off #loader_logo="fbsdbw" # Desired logo: fbsdbw, beastiebw, beastie, none As always, put your overrides in /boot/loader.conf and leave the defaults alone. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot options menu
enom-FBSD1 wrote: > Is there a way to reactivate the black and white beastie which used to > display to the right of the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot options menu? > > Yes add beastie_disable="NO" in /boot/loader.conf > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot options menu
enom-FBSD1 wrote: Is there a way to reactivate the black and white beastie which used to display to the right of the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot options menu? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Even a colored one, if you would like! Just add loader_logo="beastie" to /boot/loader.conf There are other options too, /boot/defaults/loader.conf lists: #loader_logo="fbsdbw" # Desired logo: fbsdbw, beastiebw, beastie, none beastiebw is the black/white one. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
turn on beastie beside the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot options menu
Is there a way to reactivate the black and white beastie which used to display to the right of the 'Welcome to FreeBSD' boot options menu? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Restoring freeBSD boot loader
Derek Ragona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > At 05:12 PM 6/13/2008, Lionel wrote: > > I've had to install Windows XP in dual boot on a freeBSD box, and of > course it erased the bootloader to replace it with its own. Now I'd like > to restore the freeBSD bootloader. > > I've tried booting with the install CD and I use the fdisk utility to > mark the fbsd partition bootable and then said I wanted to install the > freeBSD bootloader, but I didn't know how to make it actually write the > changes to the disk. > > So... is it possible to restore the bootloader this way? Maybe I could > install lilo from a live CD but I don't want to install grub from > windows because I'll probably remove it soon, but I think lilo just > places itself in the boot segment so it should be fine. > > Any help would be most welcome... > > -- > Lionel > > Look in the tools folder on the FreeBSD install CD for booteasy. > Booteasy will run from Windows and install the boot loader. It will > also save the old MBR to a floppy, hard disk, or USB disk for safety. > > -Derek Ah, thank you and all those who answered me, really helpful. I'm going to try this right away. > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > And a very special thank to you, MailScanner :-) -- Lionel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Restoring freeBSD boot loader
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 06:46:13PM -0400, Sahil Tandon wrote: > Lionel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've had to install Windows XP in dual boot on a freeBSD box, and of > > course it erased the bootloader to replace it with its own. Now I'd like > > to restore the freeBSD bootloader. > > > > I've tried booting with the install CD and I use the fdisk utility to > > mark the fbsd partition bootable and then said I wanted to install the > > freeBSD bootloader, but I didn't know how to make it actually write the > > changes to the disk. > > > > So... is it possible to restore the bootloader this way? Maybe I could > > install lilo from a live CD but I don't want to install grub from > > windows because I'll probably remove it soon, but I think lilo just > > places itself in the boot segment so it should be fine. > > 3.8 in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/install.html > > -- > Sahil Tandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Indeed, fdisk(8) can be used to do this. frase pgp9Ly5X508FR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Restoring freeBSD boot loader
At 05:12 PM 6/13/2008, Lionel wrote: I've had to install Windows XP in dual boot on a freeBSD box, and of course it erased the bootloader to replace it with its own. Now I'd like to restore the freeBSD bootloader. I've tried booting with the install CD and I use the fdisk utility to mark the fbsd partition bootable and then said I wanted to install the freeBSD bootloader, but I didn't know how to make it actually write the changes to the disk. So... is it possible to restore the bootloader this way? Maybe I could install lilo from a live CD but I don't want to install grub from windows because I'll probably remove it soon, but I think lilo just places itself in the boot segment so it should be fine. Any help would be most welcome... -- Lionel Look in the tools folder on the FreeBSD install CD for booteasy. Booteasy will run from Windows and install the boot loader. It will also save the old MBR to a floppy, hard disk, or USB disk for safety. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Restoring freeBSD boot loader
Lionel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've had to install Windows XP in dual boot on a freeBSD box, and of > course it erased the bootloader to replace it with its own. Now I'd like > to restore the freeBSD bootloader. > > I've tried booting with the install CD and I use the fdisk utility to > mark the fbsd partition bootable and then said I wanted to install the > freeBSD bootloader, but I didn't know how to make it actually write the > changes to the disk. > > So... is it possible to restore the bootloader this way? Maybe I could > install lilo from a live CD but I don't want to install grub from > windows because I'll probably remove it soon, but I think lilo just > places itself in the boot segment so it should be fine. 3.8 in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/install.html -- Sahil Tandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Restoring freeBSD boot loader
I've had to install Windows XP in dual boot on a freeBSD box, and of course it erased the bootloader to replace it with its own. Now I'd like to restore the freeBSD bootloader. I've tried booting with the install CD and I use the fdisk utility to mark the fbsd partition bootable and then said I wanted to install the freeBSD bootloader, but I didn't know how to make it actually write the changes to the disk. So... is it possible to restore the bootloader this way? Maybe I could install lilo from a live CD but I don't want to install grub from windows because I'll probably remove it soon, but I think lilo just places itself in the boot segment so it should be fine. Any help would be most welcome... -- Lionel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: creating custom FreeBSD boot floppies
"Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >I'm running FreeBSD 6.2. I want to create customized boot media, > the kern floppy image for sure and possibly the mfsroot disk, i would > like to know how they are made. I've found items, ut they seem to be > 4.x specific. Does anyone have this for 6.x? The easy way is actually to make (or just download) the default ones, and modify them. That is only easy for simple changes, though, so if it doesn't help, you can take a look at the manual for release(7). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
creating custom FreeBSD boot floppies
Hello, I'm running FreeBSD 6.2. I want to create customized boot media, the kern floppy image for sure and possibly the mfsroot disk, i would like to know how they are made. I've found items, ut they seem to be 4.x specific. Does anyone have this for 6.x? Thanks. Dave. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Remove FreeBSD Boot Manager
Jerry McAllister wrote: On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 06:06:51PM -0700, Jim Priovolos wrote: How can I remove the FreeBSD boot manager? My disk is full with an NTFS partition or slice and there was only room for 7 meg of anything else. The only thing that is installed now is the boot manager that asks if I want to start in Windows or BSD. I'd like to get rid of that until I can figure out how to shrink the partition. You need some sort of boot manager. You can figure out how to write the MS one back there or just leave the FreeBSD MBR there or find another favorite one to put there.The only problem with the FreeBSD MBR is that it displays ??? for bootable NTFS file systems rather than something that looks like NTFS or Win-XP, or whatever. At least as of 6.2 (possibly earlier) the boot manager display "DOS" (and also gets rid of some annoying beeps that arrived with 5.X series). Obviously, you need to re-write any MBRs written under 5.X to get the 6.X MBR. Simply upgrading will not do that. --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Remove FreeBSD Boot Manager
- Original Message From: Derek Ragona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jim Priovolos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 9:30:31 PM Subject: Re: Remove FreeBSD Boot Manager You can boot the windows repair console and use fixmbr command from there. -Derek fixmbr can be used to remove the boot manager? I didn't see anything that appeared to be capable of doing that. At 08:06 PM 3/24/2007, Jim Priovolos wrote: How can I remove the FreeBSD boot manager? My disk is full with an NTFS partition or slice and there was only room for 7 meg of anything else. The only thing that is installed now is the boot manager that asks if I want to start in Windows or BSD. I'd like to get rid of that until I can figure out how to shrink the partition. Thanks, Jim Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Remove FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 06:06:51PM -0700, Jim Priovolos wrote: > How can I remove the FreeBSD boot manager? > > My disk is full with an NTFS partition or slice and there was only room > for 7 meg of anything else. The only thing that is installed now is the > boot manager that asks if I want to start in Windows or BSD. I'd like to > get rid of that until I can figure out how to shrink the partition. > You need some sort of boot manager. You can figure out how to write the MS one back there or just leave the FreeBSD MBR there or find another favorite one to put there.The only problem with the FreeBSD MBR is that it displays ??? for bootable NTFS file systems rather than something that looks like NTFS or Win-XP, or whatever. jerry > Thanks, > Jim > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Remove FreeBSD Boot Manager
You can boot the windows repair console and use fixmbr command from there. -Derek At 08:06 PM 3/24/2007, Jim Priovolos wrote: How can I remove the FreeBSD boot manager? My disk is full with an NTFS partition or slice and there was only room for 7 meg of anything else. The only thing that is installed now is the boot manager that asks if I want to start in Windows or BSD. I'd like to get rid of that until I can figure out how to shrink the partition. Thanks, Jim Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Remove FreeBSD Boot Manager
How can I remove the FreeBSD boot manager? My disk is full with an NTFS partition or slice and there was only room for 7 meg of anything else. The only thing that is installed now is the boot manager that asks if I want to start in Windows or BSD. I'd like to get rid of that until I can figure out how to shrink the partition. Thanks, Jim Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD boot loader halts
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, Simon Chang wrote: My FBSD 6.2 freezes at random after printing Default: F1 I haven't noticed this issue in the past with older versions of FreeBSD. Since this is a random issue, it's very hard to pin point the culprit by process of elimination (disabling APCI, etc...) After several ctrl+alt+delete reboots, the system does boot. Once booted I can run makeworld for a week without any issues. Perhaps a disk issue? I'm booting off a MegaRAID controller. Though I cannot crash the system using intensive IO after it boots. After it boots, it seems to be rock solid, so I'm lost here. Can boot loader be put into verbose mode and have it output debugging info? I don't know if there is a "debug" mode for the boot loader, but if the problem is happening at random then I would want to investigate hardware failures/malfunctions. At any rate, no fully operational machine should need "several ctrl+alt+delete reboots" for it to start working. Perhaps the problem happens when the BIOS is attempting to probe drive controllers? Have you tried to stress-test the system by doing a "make buildworld"? SC This particular issue happened to me with the FreeBSD bootloader and grub on an ancient Pentium Pro machine I was using recently. I was able to correct the problem by using GAG (gag.sf.net) instead of the other bootloaders. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD boot loader halts
My FBSD 6.2 freezes at random after printing Default: F1 I haven't noticed this issue in the past with older versions of FreeBSD. Since this is a random issue, it's very hard to pin point the culprit by process of elimination (disabling APCI, etc...) After several ctrl+alt+delete reboots, the system does boot. Once booted I can run makeworld for a week without any issues. Perhaps a disk issue? I'm booting off a MegaRAID controller. Though I cannot crash the system using intensive IO after it boots. After it boots, it seems to be rock solid, so I'm lost here. Can boot loader be put into verbose mode and have it output debugging info? I don't know if there is a "debug" mode for the boot loader, but if the problem is happening at random then I would want to investigate hardware failures/malfunctions. At any rate, no fully operational machine should need "several ctrl+alt+delete reboots" for it to start working. Perhaps the problem happens when the BIOS is attempting to probe drive controllers? Have you tried to stress-test the system by doing a "make buildworld"? SC ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
FreeBSD boot loader halts
Hello, Can someone suggest a way to debug FreeBSD's boot loader? My FBSD 6.2 freezes at random after printing Default: F1 I haven't noticed this issue in the past with older versions of FreeBSD. Since this is a random issue, it's very hard to pin point the culprit by process of elimination (disabling APCI, etc...) After several ctrl+alt+delete reboots, the system does boot. Once booted I can run makeworld for a week without any issues. Perhaps a disk issue? I'm booting off a MegaRAID controller. Though I cannot crash the system using intensive IO after it boots. After it boots, it seems to be rock solid, so I'm lost here. Can boot loader be put into verbose mode and have it output debugging info? Thank you! Simon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Only CD.
On Feb 11, 2007, at 1:49 AM, Grant Peel wrote: Hi all, I have downloaded the 6.2-RELEASE ISO images, (Disk 1, Disk 2, and Boot Only), and was wondering... If I use the boot only CD to boot up the new server I am getting, can I use it to: FDisk and Disklabel the new HD (SAS), Yes. ifconfig the NIC, Yes. Setup a network share (as a client), Depends on what you mean by network share. If by nfs, then in a limited sense yes. SMB/CIFS, no. Download DUMPS from an other machine, No. RESTORE those dumps, No. the aim here is to clone a previous machine. So what I guess I am asking is, does the boot only machine give us all the working tools as would a copy installed to the local bood HD? -Grant Not really. For that you need to create your own custom boot CDs. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
FreeBSD Boot Only CD.
Hi all, I have downloaded the 6.2-RELEASE ISO images, (Disk 1, Disk 2, and Boot Only), and was wondering... If I use the boot only CD to boot up the new server I am getting, can I use it to: FDisk and Disklabel the new HD (SAS), ifconfig the NIC, Setup a network share (as a client), Download DUMPS from an other machine, RESTORE those dumps, the aim here is to clone a previous machine. So what I guess I am asking is, does the boot only machine give us all the working tools as would a copy installed to the local bood HD? -Grant ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD Boot Problem on Multiple HDDs
You may need to do an upgrade reinstall. It sounds like the boot block is foobar. If you reinstall the same version using the upgrade option, that should take care of the problem. -Derek At 01:38 AM 6/11/2006, Sean M. wrote: I just did my first ever bit of hardware hacking--salvaging a 6GB HDD from a useless computer and installing it as a slave--and went and put FreeBSD on it and a 3151MB partition on the master drive, which already had Windows 2000 Professional SP1. Here is how I chopped up the disks: ad0s1: FAT32 W2K (I have since converted to NTFS) ad0s2: /, swap, /tmp, /etc, and /var ad1s1: /usr The problem is that I can't start FreeBSD. When I get to the boot loader, I see: F1 DOS F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk 1 Pressing starts the typical hardware listing, then I see: Manual root filesystem specification ... mountroot> And the crux of the problem is that I can't type anything because the keyboard is frozen! What can I do here? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
FreeBSD Boot Problem on Multiple HDDs
I just did my first ever bit of hardware hacking--salvaging a 6GB HDD from a useless computer and installing it as a slave--and went and put FreeBSD on it and a 3151MB partition on the master drive, which already had Windows 2000 Professional SP1. Here is how I chopped up the disks: ad0s1: FAT32 W2K (I have since converted to NTFS) ad0s2: /, swap, /tmp, /etc, and /var ad1s1: /usr The problem is that I can't start FreeBSD. When I get to the boot loader, I see: F1 DOS F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk 1 Pressing starts the typical hardware listing, then I see: Manual root filesystem specification ... mountroot> And the crux of the problem is that I can't type anything because the keyboard is frozen! What can I do here? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Why won't FreeBSD boot from hard drive??
The SATA controller chip is the Intel ICH7R Southbridge RAID Controller. The hard is selected as the boot device; however, it seems to default back to the DVD/CD upon reboot. Even when I disconnect the DVD/CD it doesn't look to the hard drives. I wonder if there is a problem booting the OS from the RAID array? The motherboard manual states "If you want to boot the system from a HD included in a created RAID array, copy first the RAID driver from the support CD to a floppy disk before you install an OS to the selected HD." However, I don't have a floppy drive and I suspect they assume I'm loading Windows. Do you think it makes a difference if I install FreeBSD and then configure the RAID array, or visa-versa? -- Aaron On 5/28/06 12:57, "Kevin Kinsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aaron VanAlstine wrote: >> I successfully loaded FreeBSD 6.0 from CD all the way until the system >> reboots; however, the computer seems regard the DVD/CD as the boot hard >> drive and is trying to boot from that. During boot-up it auto detects the >> DVD ROM as the Pri Master, and the two HDs as 3rd and 4th Master. When it >> gets to the boot-stage, I get a message ³Reboot and Select proper Boot >> device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key.² >> According to the BIOS setup utility, the 1st boot device is Intel Striped >> RAID. Yet, when I restart and hit F8 to select the BBS popup menu, it >> appears that the DVD is still the boot device. I change it to the HD and >> re-boot and still I get the original ³Reboot and Select proper Boot device >> or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key" message. >> >> The DVD/CD cable is connected to the blue primary IDE on the motherboard and >> the two HD are connected to SATA1 and SATA2. From the Main screen of the >> BIOS setup utility: >> >> -- Primary IDE Master is the NEC DVD RW. >> -- Primary IDE Slave Not Detected, >> -- IDE Configuration is RAID (OnBoard Serial-ATA BOOTROM is Disabled.) >> >> Any ideas on how I can make the system boot from the hard drive instead of >> trying the DVD/CD? >> > > > I assume that you've noted the existence of a "Boot from RAID" or > similar option, and told the BIOS **not** to boot from CD/DVD? > > >> My hardware consists of: >> >> ASUS P5LD2 ACPI Bios Revision 0901 motherboard > > > Which SATA controller chip on this board? > > The reason I ask --- and this was on a Windows server, but would > apply either way: > > I had a server doing something very similar --- install from CD, > then can't find its array with both hands. > > Someone I read on the 'net* has a theory --- possibly confirmed, > that the next generation SATA drives take so long to spin up in > some cases that the motherboard's BIOS times out waiting on them. > He claims this to be the case with Seagate and Maxtor SATA-II > drives (especially those with "Native Command Queueing" or similar > technology). > > The board in question was an Epox board with the NVidia NForce 4 > SATA RAID controller. Since this board also had a Silicon Image > RAID contoller, we tried that and had some success. > > Since we still wanted to use the "primary" SATA controller, we > contacted our HDD manufacturer and received firmware updates > for the drives. After this, they've been quite reliably booting > for a few days now. > > Kevin Kinsey > > * Try googling first. IIRC, forum posts on several forums, > nick might have been "RobertP" or some such... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Why won't FreeBSD boot from hard drive??
Aaron VanAlstine wrote: I successfully loaded FreeBSD 6.0 from CD all the way until the system reboots; however, the computer seems regard the DVD/CD as the boot hard drive and is trying to boot from that. During boot-up it auto detects the DVD ROM as the Pri Master, and the two HDs as 3rd and 4th Master. When it gets to the boot-stage, I get a message ³Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key.² According to the BIOS setup utility, the 1st boot device is Intel Striped RAID. Yet, when I restart and hit F8 to select the BBS popup menu, it appears that the DVD is still the boot device. I change it to the HD and re-boot and still I get the original ³Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key" message. The DVD/CD cable is connected to the blue primary IDE on the motherboard and the two HD are connected to SATA1 and SATA2. From the Main screen of the BIOS setup utility: -- Primary IDE Master is the NEC DVD RW. -- Primary IDE Slave Not Detected, -- IDE Configuration is RAID (OnBoard Serial-ATA BOOTROM is Disabled.) Any ideas on how I can make the system boot from the hard drive instead of trying the DVD/CD? I assume that you've noted the existence of a "Boot from RAID" or similar option, and told the BIOS **not** to boot from CD/DVD? My hardware consists of: ASUS P5LD2 ACPI Bios Revision 0901 motherboard Which SATA controller chip on this board? The reason I ask --- and this was on a Windows server, but would apply either way: I had a server doing something very similar --- install from CD, then can't find its array with both hands. Someone I read on the 'net* has a theory --- possibly confirmed, that the next generation SATA drives take so long to spin up in some cases that the motherboard's BIOS times out waiting on them. He claims this to be the case with Seagate and Maxtor SATA-II drives (especially those with "Native Command Queueing" or similar technology). The board in question was an Epox board with the NVidia NForce 4 SATA RAID controller. Since this board also had a Silicon Image RAID contoller, we tried that and had some success. Since we still wanted to use the "primary" SATA controller, we contacted our HDD manufacturer and received firmware updates for the drives. After this, they've been quite reliably booting for a few days now. Kevin Kinsey * Try googling first. IIRC, forum posts on several forums, nick might have been "RobertP" or some such... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Why won't FreeBSD boot from hard drive??
I successfully loaded FreeBSD 6.0 from CD all the way until the system reboots; however, the computer seems regard the DVD/CD as the boot hard drive and is trying to boot from that. During boot-up it auto detects the DVD ROM as the Pri Master, and the two HDs as 3rd and 4th Master. When it gets to the boot-stage, I get a message ³Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key.² According to the BIOS setup utility, the 1st boot device is Intel Striped RAID. Yet, when I restart and hit F8 to select the BBS popup menu, it appears that the DVD is still the boot device. I change it to the HD and re-boot and still I get the original ³Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key" message. The DVD/CD cable is connected to the blue primary IDE on the motherboard and the two HD are connected to SATA1 and SATA2. From the Main screen of the BIOS setup utility: -- Primary IDE Master is the NEC DVD RW. -- Primary IDE Slave Not Detected, -- IDE Configuration is RAID (OnBoard Serial-ATA BOOTROM is Disabled.) Any ideas on how I can make the system boot from the hard drive instead of trying the DVD/CD? My hardware consists of: ASUS P5LD2 ACPI Bios Revision 0901 motherboard Pentium D 820 2.8 GHz dual-core NEC ND-3550A DVD+/-RW 2 x 512 Corsair 667 DDR2 RAM 2 x 80G Western Digital SATA HD configured in RAID 0 ASUS EN6600 graphics card Antec case Targus keyboard Belkin 3-button optical mouse Thanks! -- Aaron VanAlstine ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question!
Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear friends: I decided to go out and buy the latest issue of Linux Format with the FreeBSD 6 CD. I am very glad I did. FreeBSD is tough to install, Well, kinda like the first date, the first cigarette, the first skirmish, the first honeymoon, etc.: a tad tough, the first time, maybe. It gets easier ;-) but after spending several hours I feel for ya I finally succeeded in doing a perfect installation. ONE BIG PROBLEM: When I removed the CD and rebooted, I got into my Windows XP (I have two separate disks, one for Windows, one of FreeBSD). There was no way to get into FreeBSD. Naturally, I went into my BIOS and changed the boot sequence from CD to Hard Drive. That only caused my system to boot into Windows XP. I read the instructions about the FreeBSD Boot Manager. It said clearly that it should allow switching from one OS to another. But I did not see any configuration for that. There is no need to do any configuration of the boot manager in most situations. How, may I ask, do I do this while installing FreeBSD? How do I change this configuration to guarantee that all my work won't go down the toilet and that when I reboot, I will see Lilo or whatever as a boot manager that will allow me to select either FreeBSD or Windows? I am looking forward to solving this and then to actually seeing FreeBSD for the first time. Thank you so much in advance. Benjamin Can you tell us about your hardware a little more? If your BIOS will only boot from HDD0, is that the drive that actually has FreeBSD on it? Obviously, if you have installed FreeBSD on a second hard disk, and WinXP is on the first, you will see the NT bootloader on Drive #0 and not the FreeBSD boot loader on Drive #1; this would, it seems to me, load Windows XP at the expense of ignoring everything else. My 'Net connection is via packet radio, and the weather in the Mid US is pretty bad today (so it may be that I'm reading your message late, after it's already been solved) and I'm having a good bit of difficulty reading the online docs, but on my local copy, there is some information in the Handbook (ch. 12) and perhaps the FAQ (ch. 9) that may help. If indeed the issue is that Windows is on "Drive zero", then I would suggest switching the physical ordering of the drives (by jumpers or cables or whatnot) and trying again. If the FreeBSD boot loader sees an "unknown" partition type on a disk (such as NTFS or FAT/MSDOS) it will give you an option to boot this disk (usually via the "F2" key, as FreeBSD is assigned to "F1") and then give control to the MBR on the other disk. Other potential options might include adapting the Windows boot loader to "see" the other drive's boot sector, or installing a 3rd party boot loader on the primary hard disk (such as GAG, Grub, or LILO as you mentioned above). HTH, Kevin Kinsey ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question!
Gayn Winters wrote: [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Benjamin Sher Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:21 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question! Dear friends: I decided to go out and buy the latest issue of Linux Format with the FreeBSD 6 CD. I am very glad I did. FreeBSD is tough to install, but after spending several hours I finally succeeded in doing a perfect installation. ONE BIG PROBLEM: When I removed the CD and rebooted, I got into my Windows XP (I have two separate disks, one for Windows, one of FreeBSD). There was no way to get into FreeBSD. Naturally, I went into my BIOS and changed the boot sequence from CD to Hard Drive. That only caused my system to boot into Windows XP. I read the instructions about the FreeBSD Boot Manager. It said clearly that it should allow switching from one OS to another. But I did not see any configuration for that. How, may I ask, do I do this while installing FreeBSD? How do I change this configuration to guarantee that all my work won't go down the toilet and that when I reboot, I will see Lilo or whatever as a boot manager that will allow me to select either FreeBSD or Windows? I am looking forward to solving this and then to actually seeing FreeBSD for the first time. Thank you so much in advance. Benjamin Always more than one way to skin a cat. :-) A rather easy way to do what you want without having to touch your Windows installation is to use the free GAG bootloader - http://gag.sourceforge.net/>. The installation instructions seem pretty self-explanatory to me, but if you have any questions, feel free to ask. It's what I've used for years to boot triple or quadruple OS systems, and I've never had a problem. Jud ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question!
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Benjamin Sher > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:21 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question! > > > Dear friends: > > I decided to go out and buy the latest issue of Linux Format with the > FreeBSD 6 CD. I am very glad I did. FreeBSD is tough to install, but > after spending several hours I finally succeeded in doing a perfect > installation. ONE BIG PROBLEM: When I removed the CD and > rebooted, I got > into my Windows XP (I have two separate disks, one for > Windows, one of > FreeBSD). There was no way to get into FreeBSD. Naturally, I > went into > my BIOS and changed the boot sequence from CD to Hard Drive. > That only > caused my system to boot into Windows XP. > > I read the instructions about the FreeBSD Boot Manager. It > said clearly > that it should allow switching from one OS to another. But I > did not see > any configuration for that. How, may I ask, do I do this while > installing FreeBSD? How do I change this configuration to > guarantee that > all my work won't go down the toilet and that when I reboot, > I will see > Lilo or whatever as a boot manager that will allow me to > select either > FreeBSD or Windows? > > I am looking forward to solving this and then to actually > seeing FreeBSD > for the first time. > > Thank you so much in advance. > > Benjamin Welcome to FreeBSD! Well, all is not lost. There are a couple possible errors you could have made, but since XP is booting, my guess is that you installed FreeBSD correctly on ad1 and you (hopefully) put the FreeBSD boot loader onto the MBR of that disk. If so, you have a couple options: 1. Use the NT boot loader (see http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NT-BOOTL OADER ) on ad0. 2. Install the FreeBSD boot loader on ad0. To do this, boot the FreeBSD install CD again and choose FixIt mode. Get a shell going. Use boot0cfg to install the loader. Check the syntax in the man pages (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi), but I think it is: #boot0cfg -Bv -d 0x80 -m 0x1 -s 5 ad0 If somehow you failed to get the FreeBSD boot loader onto ad1, then you'll have to use boot0cfg to fix that. Its syntax will be something like: #boot0cfg -Bv -d 0x81 -m 0x1 -s 1 ad1 You do have a backup of your XP disk, don't you? Errors using boot0cfg can cause your system to be quite messed up! Double check your syntax!!! Good luck! -gayn Bristol Systems Inc. 714/532-6776 www.bristolsystems.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question!
Dear Kevin: Sounds great! Just what I need. One question before I proceed: what is the holographic shell. Please be specific and provide step-by-step instructions. I am a bit nervous about this kind of brain surgery. Thank you again. Benjamin To write the MBR on the first disk, just boot the CD and select the holographic shell. At that point, enter the command: boot0cfg -B ad0 That should do the trick. There are several other ways to do this, but this is the first one I thought of for your situation. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question!
Look in the tools folder on the FreeBSD CD for booteasy. You can load booteasy onto both hard disks from a command window under XP. -Derek At 03:42 PM 3/20/2006, Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear Daniel: I have an old but very reliable Dell Dimension 8200 that's 6 years old. It does not have a boot option for both of my separate hard disks. The only BOOT options are: floppy, CD or hard drive. That's why I need the boot manager solution. Thank you. Daniel A. wrote: On 3/20/06, Benjamin Sher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear friends: I decided to go out and buy the latest issue of Linux Format with the FreeBSD 6 CD. I am very glad I did. FreeBSD is tough to install, but after spending several hours I finally succeeded in doing a perfect installation. ONE BIG PROBLEM: When I removed the CD and rebooted, I got into my Windows XP (I have two separate disks, one for Windows, one of FreeBSD). There was no way to get into FreeBSD. Naturally, I went into my BIOS and changed the boot sequence from CD to Hard Drive. That only caused my system to boot into Windows XP. I read the instructions about the FreeBSD Boot Manager. It said clearly that it should allow switching from one OS to another. But I did not see any configuration for that. How, may I ask, do I do this while installing FreeBSD? How do I change this configuration to guarantee that all my work won't go down the toilet and that when I reboot, I will see Lilo or whatever as a boot manager that will allow me to select either FreeBSD or Windows? I am looking forward to solving this and then to actually seeing FreeBSD for the first time. Thank you so much in advance. Benjamin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" In your BIOS, make changes so that the system boots from HDD1 instead of HDD0 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question!
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:42:37 -0500 Benjamin Sher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Daniel: > > I have an old but very reliable Dell Dimension 8200 that's 6 years old. > It does not have a boot option for both of my separate hard disks. The > only BOOT options are: floppy, CD or hard drive. That's why I need the > boot manager solution. By default, FreeBSD will install the boot manager on the disk that you installed FreeBSD on - but your BIOS isn't trying to boot from that disk, so it doesn't help. You can go back into sysinstall and tell it to install a boot manager on the first disk. Be _very_ careful, as you'll delete Windows if you choose the wrong options. I'm sorry that I don't remember the exact sequence to accomplish this. As has been said: make good backups first! You _only_ want to install the boot manager - not change anything else. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question!
Dear Daniel: I have an old but very reliable Dell Dimension 8200 that's 6 years old. It does not have a boot option for both of my separate hard disks. The only BOOT options are: floppy, CD or hard drive. That's why I need the boot manager solution. Thank you. Daniel A. wrote: On 3/20/06, Benjamin Sher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear friends: I decided to go out and buy the latest issue of Linux Format with the FreeBSD 6 CD. I am very glad I did. FreeBSD is tough to install, but after spending several hours I finally succeeded in doing a perfect installation. ONE BIG PROBLEM: When I removed the CD and rebooted, I got into my Windows XP (I have two separate disks, one for Windows, one of FreeBSD). There was no way to get into FreeBSD. Naturally, I went into my BIOS and changed the boot sequence from CD to Hard Drive. That only caused my system to boot into Windows XP. I read the instructions about the FreeBSD Boot Manager. It said clearly that it should allow switching from one OS to another. But I did not see any configuration for that. How, may I ask, do I do this while installing FreeBSD? How do I change this configuration to guarantee that all my work won't go down the toilet and that when I reboot, I will see Lilo or whatever as a boot manager that will allow me to select either FreeBSD or Windows? I am looking forward to solving this and then to actually seeing FreeBSD for the first time. Thank you so much in advance. Benjamin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" In your BIOS, make changes so that the system boots from HDD1 instead of HDD0 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Fwd: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question!
On 3/20/06, Benjamin Sher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear friends: > > I decided to go out and buy the latest issue of Linux Format with the > FreeBSD 6 CD. I am very glad I did. FreeBSD is tough to install, but > after spending several hours I finally succeeded in doing a perfect > installation. ONE BIG PROBLEM: When I removed the CD and rebooted, I got > into my Windows XP (I have two separate disks, one for Windows, one of > FreeBSD). There was no way to get into FreeBSD. Naturally, I went into > my BIOS and changed the boot sequence from CD to Hard Drive. That only > caused my system to boot into Windows XP. > > I read the instructions about the FreeBSD Boot Manager. It said clearly > that it should allow switching from one OS to another. But I did not see > any configuration for that. How, may I ask, do I do this while > installing FreeBSD? How do I change this configuration to guarantee that > all my work won't go down the toilet and that when I reboot, I will see > Lilo or whatever as a boot manager that will allow me to select either > FreeBSD or Windows? > > I am looking forward to solving this and then to actually seeing FreeBSD > for the first time. > > Thank you so much in advance. > > Benjamin > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > In your BIOS, make changes so that the system boots from HDD1 instead of HDD0 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Urgent FreeBSD Boot question!
Dear friends: I decided to go out and buy the latest issue of Linux Format with the FreeBSD 6 CD. I am very glad I did. FreeBSD is tough to install, but after spending several hours I finally succeeded in doing a perfect installation. ONE BIG PROBLEM: When I removed the CD and rebooted, I got into my Windows XP (I have two separate disks, one for Windows, one of FreeBSD). There was no way to get into FreeBSD. Naturally, I went into my BIOS and changed the boot sequence from CD to Hard Drive. That only caused my system to boot into Windows XP. I read the instructions about the FreeBSD Boot Manager. It said clearly that it should allow switching from one OS to another. But I did not see any configuration for that. How, may I ask, do I do this while installing FreeBSD? How do I change this configuration to guarantee that all my work won't go down the toilet and that when I reboot, I will see Lilo or whatever as a boot manager that will allow me to select either FreeBSD or Windows? I am looking forward to solving this and then to actually seeing FreeBSD for the first time. Thank you so much in advance. Benjamin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Windows XP and FreeBSD boot Question
Nikolas Britton wrote: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group%3A*.freebsd.*+boot.ini+dual&qt_s=Search On 2/16/06, Chris Maness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have had a bad time trying to get Windows XP to boot using the FreeBSD boot manager. Is there a way I can use the XP boot manager to boot FreeBSD. I use it to boot my Slackware partition, and it works like a charm. (i.e. dd if=/dev/hda2 of=Slack.lnx count=1 bs=512, then adding a line for Slack.lnx in boot.ini) Thanks Chris Maness ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- Please sign the native Flash player for FreeBSD petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/flash4me/petition.html Thanks, that worked perfect. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Windows XP and FreeBSD boot Question
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group%3A*.freebsd.*+boot.ini+dual&qt_s=Search On 2/16/06, Chris Maness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have had a bad time trying to get Windows XP to boot using the FreeBSD > boot manager. Is there a way I can use the XP boot manager to boot > FreeBSD. I use it to boot my Slackware partition, and it works like a > charm. (i.e. dd if=/dev/hda2 of=Slack.lnx count=1 bs=512, then adding a > line for Slack.lnx in boot.ini) > > Thanks > Chris Maness > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > -- Please sign the native Flash player for FreeBSD petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/flash4me/petition.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Windows XP and FreeBSD boot Question
I have had a bad time trying to get Windows XP to boot using the FreeBSD boot manager. Is there a way I can use the XP boot manager to boot FreeBSD. I use it to boot my Slackware partition, and it works like a charm. (i.e. dd if=/dev/hda2 of=Slack.lnx count=1 bs=512, then adding a line for Slack.lnx in boot.ini) Thanks Chris Maness ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Need help switching between two FreeBSD boot drives
> hi all- > > i've got one i've been tearing my hair out over here, and even after > finding some information out there, i'm still totally lost. this may > take a while to explain, so please bear with me. > > I've got 2 80GB SATA drives in my FreeBSD machine, which are mapped as > /dev/ad4 and /dev/ad6. I've got 5_STABLE installed on 1 drive, and my > plan is to get a working install of 6_STABLE on the other drive, so i > can take my time to work out the kinks with the upgrade on the 2nd drive > (it hasn't been straighforward) and be able to switch back to my working > 5_STABLE machine as needed. That's the plan, anyway. > > So I followed the general instructions here: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.html#NEW-HUGE-DISK > > to clone drive 1 over to drive 2. very cool, no problems, i can pick > either drive in the bootloader and boot up there. so all is well and > good until i boot into drive 2 and start the upgrade process. I realize > the /dev/ad4 and /dev/ad6 are not exactly fixed. It seems almost > arbitrary which drive ends up mapped as /dev/ad6 and /dev/ad4, and this > caused me to nearly munge all of the data on the working 5_STABLE > install before i caught myself. If i boot into drive 1 at boot time, > everything ends up being mounted at /dev/ad6. If i mount into drive 2 at > boot time, the same thing happens. Mind you, i /did/ check /etc/fstab to > ensure that all was well, but i ended up with a weird situation where, > say, / would be /dev/ad4s1a and all of the other mountpoints were at > /dev/ad6*. ugh. confusing! > > I found this page, which explains the problem /somewhat/: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.html > > but to be completely honest, the concept didn't stick. What i need help > with, since these drives are exactly the same size and make, is how i > can do the following: > > 1) determine the relationship between Drive 1/Drive 2 and ad4/ad6 > 2) determine exactly which physical drive i am working on at any given > time, since the /dev node mappings seem to be malleable Drive 0/Drive 1 always refer to the same devices, as FreeBSD ignores the BIOS mappings (which may change, as outlined in the above docs). These drive numbers are assigned based on physical controller/device numbering and addressing, and thus won't change unless you physically change device IDs or move cables around. However, once booted, FreeBSD, however, may assign different controller/disk IDs to the physical devices, depending on what order the devices are detected. Usually this is static, but in some cases, it is not. > 3) enable an environment where i can safely and surely boot into either > drive and know for a fact that the right partitions are mounted ( all of > the data on all of the partitions aside from / is mirrored, so it's > practically impossible to tell which drive is which ) Compile custom kernels on both systems that contain "options ATA_STATIC_ID". This will force the FreeBSD device names to always map to the same physical controller/drive number. > 4) (bonus points) My bootloader shows the following on boot: > >F1: FreeBSD >F2: FreeBSD >F5: Drive 1 > > a) I've only got 1 FreeBSD install on this drive, so what is F2? It just > beeps at me when i try it F2 represents a slice (in DOS terms, partition) on Drive 0 that is marked bootable. The reason you get a beep is because there is no boot loader on that slice. > b) I assume that "F5: Drive 1" means that the drive i'm staring at the > options for is Drive 2, adn that selecting F5 will toggle to Drive 1? Drivers are numbered from 0. So F1/F2 refer to bootable slices on Drive 0. Regards, -- Matt Emmerton ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Need help switching between two FreeBSD boot drives
hi all- i've got one i've been tearing my hair out over here, and even after finding some information out there, i'm still totally lost. this may take a while to explain, so please bear with me. I've got 2 80GB SATA drives in my FreeBSD machine, which are mapped as /dev/ad4 and /dev/ad6. I've got 5_STABLE installed on 1 drive, and my plan is to get a working install of 6_STABLE on the other drive, so i can take my time to work out the kinks with the upgrade on the 2nd drive (it hasn't been straighforward) and be able to switch back to my working 5_STABLE machine as needed. That's the plan, anyway. So I followed the general instructions here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.html#NEW-HUGE-DISK to clone drive 1 over to drive 2. very cool, no problems, i can pick either drive in the bootloader and boot up there. so all is well and good until i boot into drive 2 and start the upgrade process. I realize the /dev/ad4 and /dev/ad6 are not exactly fixed. It seems almost arbitrary which drive ends up mapped as /dev/ad6 and /dev/ad4, and this caused me to nearly munge all of the data on the working 5_STABLE install before i caught myself. If i boot into drive 1 at boot time, everything ends up being mounted at /dev/ad6. If i mount into drive 2 at boot time, the same thing happens. Mind you, i /did/ check /etc/fstab to ensure that all was well, but i ended up with a weird situation where, say, / would be /dev/ad4s1a and all of the other mountpoints were at /dev/ad6*. ugh. confusing! I found this page, which explains the problem /somewhat/: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.html but to be completely honest, the concept didn't stick. What i need help with, since these drives are exactly the same size and make, is how i can do the following: 1) determine the relationship between Drive 1/Drive 2 and ad4/ad6 2) determine exactly which physical drive i am working on at any given time, since the /dev node mappings seem to be malleable 3) enable an environment where i can safely and surely boot into either drive and know for a fact that the right partitions are mounted ( all of the data on all of the partitions aside from / is mirrored, so it's practically impossible to tell which drive is which ) 4) (bonus points) My bootloader shows the following on boot: F1: FreeBSD F2: FreeBSD F5: Drive 1 a) I've only got 1 FreeBSD install on this drive, so what is F2? It just beeps at me when i try it b) I assume that "F5: Drive 1" means that the drive i'm staring at the options for is Drive 2, adn that selecting F5 will toggle to Drive 1? Just clarifying! i hope this is an easy one to solve. i look forward to any and all help! thanks in advance, darren david ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Replacing FreeBSD boot loader (was: How To Delete BSD)
On Monday, 14 November 2005 at 4:09:49 -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: > On Nov 14, 2005, at 1:30 AM, Uncle Deejy-Pooh wrote: >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:07:56 -0800, Scharp Ledge wrote: >> >>> How do I delete BSD? Thanks >> >> Betcha don't get many replies to this !!! > > Did you perhaps mean the FreeBSD bootloader? If so, what do you want > to use as the bootloader/primary OS then? FWIW, if you want to dual boot Linux and FreeBSD, you're better off using GRUB. That works fine. For example, put something like this in your (Linux) /boot/grub/menu.lst: # FreeBSD title FreeBSD 7-CURRENT root (hd0,2,a) kernel/boot/loader Note that Linux counts partitions differently. hd0,2,a is /dev/ad0s3a. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Linux in freebsd boot menu
hi, i have freebsd/linux and windows. how can i bring all on freebsd boot menu. ( its really easy to bring everything in GRUB ). is there a way to bring all the three under freebsd loader ? regrds, ananth g. ** DISCLAIMER ** Information contained and transmitted by this E-MAIL is proprietary to Sify Limited and is intended for use only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If this is a forwarded message, the content of this E-MAIL may not have been sent with the authority of the Company. If you are not the intended recipient, an agent of the intended recipient or a person responsible for delivering the information to the named recipient, you are notified that any use, distribution, transmission, printing, copying or dissemination of this information in any way or in any manner is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please delete this mail & notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
