Re: ISP questions

2009-06-10 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 17:13:47 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: If 0.111% of customers are unfortunate enough to end up with something entirely beyond their control causing something to happen that can be imagined to be a violation of GoDaddy's partially undisclosed policies, and 0.1% of

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Every time you get in a car, you risk your life. Does that mean you Everything is dangerous, life itself being the most - always ends with death. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-10 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 06:33:05AM -0400, Jerry wrote: On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 17:13:47 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: If 0.111% of customers are unfortunate enough to end up with something entirely beyond their control causing something to happen that can be imagined to be a

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-09 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 05:31:12PM -0400, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 14:55:49 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: I try to learn from others' mistakes to reduce the likelihood that I will be forced to learn from my own. If you really want to learn from your own mistakes,

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-08 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 19:46:29 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 11:50:35PM -0400, itsemu wrote: if your dealing with a isp such as a cable/dsl company, remember the requirements to work there, they arent trained on anything besides windows.. probably dont

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 04:45:43AM -0400, Jerry wrote: I have used GoDaddy for 7 years now without a single problem. Maybe I am just lucky. I have only contacted them twice; however, I received a quick and courteous response to my inquiry. I try to learn from others' mistakes to reduce the

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-08 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 14:55:49 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: I try to learn from others' mistakes to reduce the likelihood that I will be forced to learn from my own. If you really want to learn from your own mistakes, though, go ahead and ignore the instances where GoDaddy has

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-07 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 11:50:35PM -0400, itsemu wrote: if your dealing with a isp such as a cable/dsl company, remember the requirements to work there, they arent trained on anything besides windows.. probably dont really know what a static ip is or have any idea what hardware each different

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-07 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 06:23:56PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: The tech support people do what they are told to do. If you've ever had a job in which every single incoming call is someone who is frustrated, angry and is going to take it out on *you*, it might be understandable why the tech

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-05 Thread Matthew Seaman
, due to security reasons. After asking, I was told that I would be able to run a mail server and http server on my connection. 8. Do you have complete reverse DNS? (They didn't know.) I assume this is a pretty typical response from ISPs. Has anyone asked their ISP questions like

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
My isp have up to 1Gbyte/s costs 1000SEK a month 1Gbyte/s? Yes. it's 10Gbit/s No. So 1Gbyte or Gbit/s? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
in the service to know the meaning of your questions and the answers. Man, you're with the wrong ISP. Or maybe it's best ISP available there? :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-05 Thread Steve Bertrand
itsemu wrote: if your dealing with a isp such as a cable/dsl company, remember the requirements to work there, they arent trained on anything besides windows.. Excuse me, unless you have ever worked at an ISP, might I kindly ask you to have some respect. (if you have, the call centre you likely

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-05 Thread Steve Bertrand
Modulok wrote: While it sounds pretty bad, I think my ISP takes the cake: - Regardless of the problem, their solution is to unplug the cable modem, wait 30 seconds and plug it back in and hope for the best. Well, I don't know about cable, but this is the way DSL works. 90%+ of the issues

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-05 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca: [snip] Disclaimer: I work as a network engineer at a small ISP. From time to time, I still have to answer the phone every once in a while (unfortunately). I do not like dealing directly with users. Most of them complain, bitch and snivel and

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-05 Thread Steve Bertrand
Bill Moran wrote: In response to Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca: [snip] Disclaimer: I work as a network engineer at a small ISP. From time to time, I still have to answer the phone every once in a while (unfortunately). I do not like dealing directly with users. Most of them complain,

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-05 Thread Reid Linnemann
Written by Steve Bertrand on 06/05/09 08:43 Despite frustrations try to remember, it's not the tech support people's fault. They're just there 8-5 trying to make rent and pay for their kids dental. If you want to blame somebody, blame management. The tech support people do what they are told

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Well, I don't know about cable, but this is the way DSL works. 90%+ of the issues with DSL are due to the modem losing connectivity overnight, so a reboot is the quickest and easiest method of troubleshooting. i don't remember now what brand of modem i have (i'm not in place) from Polish

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
You are absolutely right, and I'm glad you pointed that out. Even I will admit to not minding hanging on the phone a few extra minutes with a calm, polite user (no matter how 'green' they are) if they do what I say (without click-click-clicking in the background) throughout the troubleshooting

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I did the support gig for the better part of two years when I started school. It was difficult, especially when the people that were frustrated, angry, and determined to take it out on me had broken or ancient hardware and lived out in the boondocks where audible crackling Just put the earphone

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-05 Thread Karl Vogel
On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 09:43:17 -0400, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca said: S If you've ever had a job in which every single incoming call is someone S who is frustrated, angry and is going to take it out on *you*, it might S be understandable why the tech support call centre business is like an

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
S months. I've been at a US Air Force MIS helpdesk since Sept 1988. I wrote an article about some of my favorite tools, and as an aside I mentioned my time working in IT support. My favorite article comment: If I'm still doing this in 21 years, someone please write a program to

ISP questions

2009-06-04 Thread Mark Hartkemeyer
be able to run a mail server and http server on my connection. 8. Do you have complete reverse DNS? (They didn't know.) I assume this is a pretty typical response from ISPs. Has anyone asked their ISP questions like these? If so, what kind of response did you get? Does anyone know of a really

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-04 Thread Diego F. Arias R.
?    Cannot provide this info, due to security reasons.  After asking, I was told that I would be able to run a mail server and http server on my connection. 8. Do you have complete reverse DNS?    (They didn't know.) I assume this is a pretty typical response from ISPs.  Has anyone asked their ISP

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-04 Thread Bill Moran
? I assume this is a pretty typical response from ISPs. Has anyone asked their ISP questions like these? If so, what kind of response did you get? Does anyone know of a really good ISP, or a good resource for finding a good ISP around Cincinnati, OH? I recommend hooking up with your local

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-04 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:10:17 -0400 Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com wrote: In response to Mark Hartkemeyer hartk...@gmail.com: 4. What kind of hardware and software are you running? Can't provide this, due to security reasons. That's the stupidest answer I've heard today. Actually, I

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-04 Thread Wojciech Puchar
4. What kind of hardware and software are you running? Can't provide this, due to security reasons. That's the stupidest answer I've heard today. It isn't that stupid. As many ISPs admins aren't very good, they simply fear. ___

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-04 Thread Wojciech Puchar
That's the stupidest answer I've heard today. It isn't that stupid. As many ISPs admins aren't very good, they simply fear. Based on the answers provided, I highly doubt that the OP was speaking to an admin... Of course not, but THEY require others to not talk about used hardware and

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-04 Thread Steve Bertrand
Wojciech Puchar wrote: 4. What kind of hardware and software are you running? Can't provide this, due to security reasons. That's the stupidest answer I've heard today. It isn't that stupid. As many ISPs admins aren't very good, they simply fear. Based on the answers provided, I

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-04 Thread Mark Busby
--- On Thu, 6/4/09, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: From: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl Subject: Re: ISP questions To: Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 12:56 PM 4. What kind

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-04 Thread Reid Linnemann
this info, due to security reasons. After asking, I was told that I would be able to run a mail server and http server on my connection. 8. Do you have complete reverse DNS? (They didn't know.) I assume this is a pretty typical response from ISPs. Has anyone asked their ISP questions

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-04 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Your the only one who's found this problem, so we'll wait until the next version to patch this problem. It's just like my upstream network provider. When they have longer problems i heard Sorry we working on this, you must be really unlucky, as nobody else have problems here. I asked few

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-04 Thread Wojciech Puchar
These responses don't surprise me. I'm actually impressed your rep knew the numbers for the up/down bandwidth, even though their metric was It's just marketing bandwidth as most clients don't understand what it mean anyway, but just expect higher value that others for the same price. It's

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-04 Thread Bernt Hansson
. Incoming port 137-139, 445 closed 8. Do you have complete reverse DNS? (They didn't know.) Yes. I assume this is a pretty typical response from ISPs. Has anyone asked their ISP questions like these? If so, what kind of response did you get? Does anyone know of a really good ISP, or a good

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-04 Thread Wojciech Puchar
5MBps upload/5MBps download (she said bytes, but should it be bits?) 768kBps My isp have up to 1Gbyte/s costs 1000SEK a month 1Gbyte/s? it's 10Gbit/s What card do you use to connect? server on my connection. Outgoing port 25, 137-139 closed. Incoming port 137-139, 445 closed So

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-04 Thread Bernt Hansson
Wojciech Puchar said the following on 2009-06-05 01:34: 5MBps upload/5MBps download (she said bytes, but should it be bits?) 768kBps My isp have up to 1Gbyte/s costs 1000SEK a month 1Gbyte/s? Yes. it's 10Gbit/s No. What card do you use to connect? A netgear 310fx I only

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-04 Thread Bernt Hansson
NB this is a residential ISP I'm writing about. Wojciech Puchar said the following on 2009-06-05 01:34: 5MBps upload/5MBps download (she said bytes, but should it be bits?) 768kBps My isp have up to 1Gbyte/s costs 1000SEK a month 1Gbyte/s? it's 10Gbit/s What card do you use to

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-04 Thread Modulok
this info, due to security reasons. After asking, I was told that I would be able to run a mail server and http server on my connection. 8. Do you have complete reverse DNS? (They didn't know.) I assume this is a pretty typical response from ISPs. Has anyone asked their ISP questions like

Re: ISP questions

2009-06-04 Thread itsemu
assume this is a pretty typical response from ISPs. Has anyone asked their ISP questions like these? If so, what kind of response did you get? Does anyone know of a really good ISP, or a good resource for finding a good ISP around Cincinnati, OH? Thanks, Mark Hartkemeyer While