Re: Jail FS questions.

2003-10-10 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Shooting down ppl that are willing to test and report bugs is equally as > > irresponsible though, and I've been seeing alot of that ... > > Okay, so you're changing the topic (we were talking about users, not > testers). No, I'm talking about end-us

Re: Jail FS questions.

2003-10-10 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 12:46:18AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > > Yes, it's a good thing that some developers are finally working on > > > fixing some of the problems, but the fact remains that

Re: Jail FS questions.

2003-10-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 12:46:18AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > Yes, it's a good thing that some developers are finally working on > > fixing some of the problems, but the fact remains that nullfs/unionfs > > *are not known to work in all situa

Re: Jail FS questions.

2003-10-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 12:48:49AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 10:19:46PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > > > If I use unionfs as the ``base'' for the jail then every directory seems > > > > to be automagical

Re: Jail FS questions. (Columbus ref)

2003-10-09 Thread Pat Lashley
--On Thursday, October 09, 2003 22:55:26 -0300 "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You know, its this attitude that would have kept Christopher Columbus in Europe ... all the "big scary warnings" said that the world was flat back then, no? No, not at all. Because by the time of Columbu

Re: Jail FS questions.

2003-10-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 10:19:46PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > If I use unionfs as the ``base'' for the jail then every directory seems > > > to be automagically owned by the person that mounted it (i.e. root). > > > This causes me problems f

Re: Jail FS questions.

2003-10-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Yes, it's a good thing that some developers are finally working on > fixing some of the problems, but the fact remains that nullfs/unionfs > *are not known to work in all situations* (indeed, I was able to trigger > unionfs bugs within a few minutes of t

Re: Jail FS questions.

2003-10-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 10:19:46PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > If I use unionfs as the ``base'' for the jail then every directory seems > > to be automagically owned by the person that mounted it (i.e. root). > > This causes me problems for stuff like mailspool, etc. I think this is > > th

Re: Jail FS questions.

2003-10-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 10:55:26PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 05:00:02PM -0400, Kenny Freeman wrote: > > > > > > I've been reading about unionfs and nullfs (well, more skim reading > > > > really; I'm not FS guru,

Re: Jail FS questions.

2003-10-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 05:00:02PM -0400, Kenny Freeman wrote: > > > > I've been reading about unionfs and nullfs (well, more skim reading > > > really; I'm not FS guru, which is why I'm asking here) and one of these > > > sounds like it could be the

Re: Jail FS questions.

2003-10-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
> 5.1-RELEASE, latest patches. I think this might be the problem. I'm > having vinum issues too. 'K, haven't started to play with 5.1 yet, since its still label'd as "not production quality" ... or at least it was when I asked before installing my last server a month or so ago ... > > permissi

Re: Jail FS questions.

2003-10-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 05:00:02PM -0400, Kenny Freeman wrote: > > I've been reading about unionfs and nullfs (well, more skim reading > > really; I'm not FS guru, which is why I'm asking here) and one of these > > sounds like it could be the idea solution. At first glance I'd say that > > unio

Re: Jail FS questions.

2003-10-09 Thread Lewis Thompson
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 09:31:05PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Lewis Thompson wrote: > > Just causing system reboots. Randomly. > > > > Also, for some reason it doesn't seem to propogate permissions, which > > is annoying for using them as the bases for jails. > > syst

Re: Jail FS questions.

2003-10-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Lewis Thompson wrote: > On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 09:17:12PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Lewis Thompson wrote: > > > > > > Anyway, nullfs is great for "remounting" > > > > parts of the file system. > > > > > > Yeah, right now I'm using NFS mounts, w

Re: Jail FS questions.

2003-10-09 Thread Lewis Thompson
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 09:17:12PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Lewis Thompson wrote: > > > > Anyway, nullfs is great for "remounting" > > > parts of the file system. > > > > Yeah, right now I'm using NFS mounts, which is a bit ugly, to say the > > least. Since I had trou

Re: Jail FS questions.

2003-10-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Lewis Thompson wrote: > > Anyway, nullfs is great for "remounting" > > parts of the file system. > > Yeah, right now I'm using NFS mounts, which is a bit ugly, to say the > least. Since I had troubles with union I steered clear of nullfs, since > the same ``slippery dog'' wa

Re: Jail FS questions.

2003-10-09 Thread Lewis Thompson
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 05:00:02PM -0400, Kenny Freeman wrote: Content-Description: signed data > I've got a 120GB drive in that system, so for me I don't really have a > problem with space. Yeah, same here, but the way I figure it is it's surely better to conserve the disk space if at all possibl

Re: Jail FS questions.

2003-10-09 Thread Kenny Freeman
err none /secure/files/mail /secure/internal/smtp/postfix/server/var/spool/mail nullfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 same for the other entry - forgot the fs type... -Kenny On October 9, 2003 05:00 pm, Kenny Freeman wrote: > I'm not sure about union fs, never had a real use for it yet I have

Re: Jail FS questions.

2003-10-09 Thread Kenny Freeman
I'm not sure about union fs, never had a real use for it yet I have a similair setup as you. I have about 4 jails running so far (~8 more to go). I've written a fairly large bash scipt to build the jails + configure them automagically too. I've got a 120GB drive in that system, so for me I d

Jail FS questions.

2003-08-14 Thread Lewis Thompson
Hi, I currently have a bunch of jails running on my FreeBSD box. I've done this by making installworld a number of times, each time with a different DESTDIR (say /jail1, /jail2, /jail3). Clearly this is using a significant amount of space on the machine. I've been reading about unionfs and