Re: BSD Question's.

2006-01-12 Thread Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg
Miguel Saturnino wrote: On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 07:34 -0800, Danial Thom wrote: Well, that's your opinion. For me, FreeBSD is a much better desktop than Windows -- it runs solid and fast and enables me to be more productive in my work. Of course, what is good for me might not be so good for

Re: BSD Question's.

2006-01-12 Thread Bob Johnson
On 12/24/05, Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not just tell the truth, which is that Windows XP is the best that you can do for the desktop, and that there is no perfect solution that works perfectly in every scenario? FreeBSD and Linux *should* focus on server functions, because

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-30 Thread Michael Vince
If you want to try an different Desktop replacement OS over Windows XP I would say you would have better luck with something like Linspire. But the truth is there isn't much difference at all between any Linux distribution or FreeBSD and when I see the latest Linux review on some of those so

RE: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Danial Thom Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 6:28 PM To: Beech Rintoul; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD Question's. --- Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 26 December 2005 07

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 26 Dec Danial Thom wrote: It doesn't really matter what the accepted standard is; its the one that *most* people are using. Bring this rule to society and it won't take all that much time before we'll live in a jungle (happely ever after ? ;-) It's the decease of this era that lost of

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 09:27 am, Danial Thom wrote: Schwab Streetsmart Accounting Software (CA) Quicken Photoshop Adobe Acrobat (for creating PDFs) Those are the ones I use daily. Surely there are some half-assed alternatives for some of these, but if I have to use something inferior to use

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 01:03 am, Danial Thom wrote: --- Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2005-12-24 14:01, Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For me, FreeBSD is about twice as fast/easy to install/configure, and infinitely

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Tuesday, December 27, 2005 8:35:04 AM Malcolm Kay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BSD Question's. Wrote these words of wisdom: I would claim that XP is quite capable of screwing up its system without any real help from the user. I installed a HP all-in-one scanner-plotter on my a NEC

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread Danial Thom
--- dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26 Dec Danial Thom wrote: It doesn't really matter what the accepted standard is; its the one that *most* people are using. Bring this rule to society and it won't take all that much time before we'll live in a jungle (happely ever

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 27 Dec Danial Thom wrote: --- dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26 Dec Danial Thom wrote: It doesn't really matter what the accepted standard is; its the one that *most* people are using. Bring this rule to society and it won't take all that much time before

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread Danial Thom
--- Malcolm Kay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 09:27 am, Danial Thom wrote: Schwab Streetsmart Accounting Software (CA) Quicken Photoshop Adobe Acrobat (for creating PDFs) Those are the ones I use daily. Surely there are some half-assed alternatives for some

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread Danial Thom
--- dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27 Dec Danial Thom wrote: --- dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26 Dec Danial Thom wrote: It doesn't really matter what the accepted standard is; its the one that *most* people are using. Bring this rule to

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 02:15 am, Danial Thom wrote: --- Malcolm Kay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 09:27 am, Danial Thom wrote: Schwab Streetsmart Accounting Software (CA) Quicken Photoshop Adobe Acrobat (for creating PDFs) Those are the ones I use daily.

RE: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Malcolm Kay Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: rod person; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD Question's. Cadence have a wide range of products some of which run

RE: BSD Question's.

2005-12-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy Sjostrom Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 12:11 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: BSD Question's. To whom this may concern, H-E-L-P! [diatribe against Windows deleted] I have decided to

RE: BSD Question's.

2005-12-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Danial Thom Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 7:34 AM To: Michael C. Shultz; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Daniel A.; Andy Sjostrom Subject: Re: BSD Question's. --- Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: BSD Question's.

2005-12-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gerard Seibert Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 8:07 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD Question's. I have to agree with that statement. I have witnessed all too many products start out

RE: BSD Question's.

2005-12-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dick hoogendijk Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 5:54 AM To: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: BSD Question's. On 24 Dec Danial Thom wrote: Schwab Streetsmart Accounting Software (CA) Quicken Photoshop

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-26 Thread Kent Stewart
On Sunday 25 December 2005 02:16 pm, dick hoogendijk wrote: On 24 Dec Kent Stewart wrote: There is also the problem that some sites are designed to work with Internet Explorer. You can try to visit with firefox but that doesn't always work even with firefox on XP. NO site should be

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-26 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Monday, December 26, 2005 8:28:13 AM Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BSD Question's. Wrote these words of wisdom: On Sunday 25 December 2005 02:16 pm, dick hoogendijk wrote: On 24 Dec Kent Stewart wrote: There is also the problem that some sites are designed to work

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-26 Thread Danial Thom
--- dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Dec Kent Stewart wrote: There is also the problem that some sites are designed to work with Internet Explorer. You can try to visit with firefox but that doesn't always work even with firefox on XP. NO site should be designed to

RE: BSD Question's.

2005-12-26 Thread Danial Thom
: BSD Question's. --- Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with Windows XP. I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD really is not targeted at people who

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-26 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Monday 26 December 2005 07:24 am, Danial Thom wrote: --- dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Dec Kent Stewart wrote: There is also the problem that some sites are designed to work with Internet Explorer. You can try to visit with firefox but that doesn't

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-26 Thread Danial Thom
--- Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 26 December 2005 07:24 am, Danial Thom wrote: --- dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Dec Kent Stewart wrote: There is also the problem that some sites are designed to work with Internet Explorer. You can

RE: BSD Question's.

2005-12-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kent Stewart Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 5:28 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD Question's. Each browser has some technology that they depend on and you have to use that browser

RE: BSD Question's.

2005-12-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gerard Seibert Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 5:38 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD Question's. I belong to a HS Officials Association. The entire BOCES site, where I can confirm

RE: BSD Question's.

2005-12-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Danial Thom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 9:00 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Michael C. Shultz; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Daniel A.; Andy Sjostrom Subject: RE: BSD Question's. --- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-25 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 24 Dec Danial Thom wrote: Schwab Streetsmart Accounting Software (CA) Quicken Photoshop Adobe Acrobat (for creating PDFs) Those are the ones I use daily. Surely there are some half-assed alternatives for some of these, but if I have to use something inferior to use FreeBSD then

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-25 Thread Danial Thom
--- dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Dec Danial Thom wrote: Schwab Streetsmart Accounting Software (CA) Quicken Photoshop Adobe Acrobat (for creating PDFs) Those are the ones I use daily. Surely there are some half-assed alternatives for some of these, but

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-25 Thread Danial Thom
--- Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2005-12-24 14:01, Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For me, FreeBSD is about twice as fast/easy to install/configure, and infinitely cheaper. Considering that WinXP usually comes on the

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-25 Thread Andy Sjostrom
Hi Daniel I have not forgotten Ubuntu. I did try it last spring in a vain attempt and on the advisement of my computer tech and slackware guru (in my eye's only of cousre) to find a better OS. My tech keeps tring to push me toward the slackware. and he doesn't understand that many of my

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-25 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-12-25 06:33, Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2005-12-24 14:01, Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For me, FreeBSD is about twice as fast - easy to install - configure, and

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-25 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 24 Dec Kent Stewart wrote: There is also the problem that some sites are designed to work with Internet Explorer. You can try to visit with firefox but that doesn't always work even with firefox on XP. NO site should be designed to work with IExplorer. I know it's done, but it should not!

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread Robert Slade
On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 08:10, Andy Sjostrom wrote: To whom this may concern, H-E-L-P! LOL! I've been online since 1992( the windows 3.1 days for me.) I'm 48 yrs.old. and also a windows XP user. Because of recent issue I have had with Mr. William Gates and his product. about every 6

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread Daniel A.
Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with Windows XP. I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD really is not targeted at people who want to use graphical user interfaces. The linux developers really have been trying to make a valuable replacement for Windows, as they somehow have

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with Windows XP. I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD really is not targeted at people who want to use graphical user interfaces. In a few key areas FreeBSD is a better desktop OS than

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread Danial Thom
--- Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with Windows XP. I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD really is not targeted at people who want to use graphical user

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread Mike Jeays
On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 07:19 -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with Windows XP. I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD really is not targeted at people who want to use graphical user

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread Micah
Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with Windows XP. I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD really is not targeted at people who want to use graphical user interfaces. In a few key areas FreeBSD

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Saturday 24 December 2005 07:34, Danial Thom wrote: --- Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with Windows XP. I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Saturday, December 24, 2005 10:34:12 AM Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BSD Question's. Wrote these words of wisdom: When you try to be everything to everyone and you don't have the resources of a MS, then you end up with mediocre results. Decide what you want

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Saturday 24 December 2005 08:02, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Mike, On 12/24/05, Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with Windows XP. I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread Miguel Saturnino
On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 07:34 -0800, Danial Thom wrote: --- Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with Windows XP. I suggest that you use Linux, as FreeBSD really

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread Danial Thom
--- Miguel Saturnino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 07:34 -0800, Danial Thom wrote: --- Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread David Gerard
Daniel A. wrote: One Linux distribution in particular that I think you might like, is Ubuntu. You can download it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/, or order a CD (Free shipping, free CD, you pay nothing). Seconded. I put Ubuntu on my laptop after FreeBSD 5 wouldn't behave. It's Debian-based,

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread Danial Thom
--- Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 07:34, Danial Thom wrote: --- Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A. wrote: Hi Andy, I am sorry for the trouble you have had with

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread Don Hinton
Hi Danial: On Saturday 24 December 2005 10:44, Danial Thom wrote: --- Miguel Saturnino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 07:34 -0800, Danial Thom wrote: --- Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 06:54, Daniel A.

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread Mike Jeays
It is not clear to me who said this; whoever did gets my vote for cheapest trick of the year. This is the same kind of response I got when I asked for screen alternatives. My grind is against Linux. Honestly, I hate linux. I dont have any real reasons for hating it, I just do, because Linux

Re: BSD Question's

2005-12-24 Thread Frank Jahnke
One good alternative that no one has mentioned is PC-BSD. It is FreeBSD that makes it very easy to set up a KDE desktop and install software. It works very well indeed. Yes, it has issues with some of the plugins at the moment (like FreeBSD) and java still has to be compiled. But the

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread Danial Thom
--- Don Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Danial: On Saturday 24 December 2005 10:44, Danial Thom wrote: --- Miguel Saturnino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 07:34 -0800, Danial Thom wrote: --- Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread rod person
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 14:01:53 -0800 (PST) Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't expect you to care, but saying you prefer FreeBSD and saying FreeBSD is better are different animals. I just wanted to know what you could do with FreeBSD that you can't do with Windows. I already know

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread Danial Thom
--- rod person [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 14:01:53 -0800 (PST) Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't expect you to care, but saying you prefer FreeBSD and saying FreeBSD is better are different animals. I just wanted to know what you could do with FreeBSD

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread Kent Stewart
On Saturday 24 December 2005 02:24 pm, rod person wrote: On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 14:01:53 -0800 (PST) Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't expect you to care, but saying you prefer FreeBSD and saying FreeBSD is better are different animals. I just wanted to know what you could do

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-12-24 07:34, Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not just tell the truth, which is that Windows XP is the best that you can do for the desktop, and that there is no perfect solution that works perfectly in every scenario? Because it's not the truth.

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-12-24 09:16, Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 07:34, Danial Thom wrote: FreeBSD and Linux *should* focus on server functions, because that is where MS is weak and that is where its needed. There will likely

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-12-24 14:01, Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For me, FreeBSD is about twice as fast/easy to install/configure, and infinitely cheaper. Considering that WinXP usually comes on the computer, I don't see how installing and configuring FreeBSD

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread Kent Stewart
On Saturday 24 December 2005 02:57 pm, Danial Thom wrote: --- rod person [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 14:01:53 -0800 (PST) Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't expect you to care, but saying you prefer FreeBSD and saying FreeBSD is better are different

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-24 Thread Andy Sjostrom
People please, I did not come in search of a debate as to which OS was better. I came in Search of a newer or if you will, another choice in an OS. Two OS's which have been pointed out to me and look very promising are. 1. PC BSD 2. ALinux Both offer a lot, and I know as many people do