Re: The logo at boot (Nakatomi Socrates BSD 9.2)

2013-09-05 Thread David Demelier
On 05.09.2013 14:59, Patrick Dung wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 4 Sep 2013, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >Patrick Dung yahoo.com.hk> writes: >>>Do you know what is this logo means, or the story > behind it? >>I thought the BSD daemo

Re: The logo at boot (Nakatomi Socrates BSD 9.2)

2013-09-05 Thread Patrick Dung
On Wed, 4 Sep 2013, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >Patrick Dung writes: >>>Do you know what is this logo means, or the story behind it? >>I thought the BSD daemon (logo) has been around for many years in the past. >>It's a movie referenc

Re: The logo at boot (Nakatomi Socrates BSD 9.2)

2013-09-04 Thread Warren Block
On Wed, 4 Sep 2013, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Patrick Dung writes: Do you know what is this logo means, or the story behind it? I thought the BSD daemon (logo) has been around for many years in the past. It's a movie reference ("Die Hard"). The Beastie logo is still ther

Re: The logo at boot (Nakatomi Socrates BSD 9.2)

2013-09-04 Thread Patrick Dung
go at boot (Nakatomi Socrates BSD 9.2) Patrick Dung writes: > Do you know what is this logo means, or the story behind it? > I thought the BSD daemon (logo) has been around for many years in the past. It's a movie reference ("Die Hard"). The Beastie logo is still there, in t

Re: The logo at boot (Nakatomi Socrates BSD 9.2)

2013-09-04 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Patrick Dung writes: > Do you know what is this logo means, or the story behind it? > I thought the BSD daemon (logo) has been around for many years in the past. It's a movie reference ("Die Hard"). The Beastie logo is still there, in the /boot dire

Re: The logo at boot (Nakatomi Socrates BSD 9.2)

2013-09-04 Thread  Dhénin Jean-Jacques
2013/9/4 Patrick Dung > Hello, > > Do you know what is this logo means, or the story behind it? > I thought the BSD daemon (logo) has been around for many years in the past. > > Thanks and regards, > Patrick Dung > http://en.wikip

The logo at boot (Nakatomi Socrates BSD 9.2)

2013-09-04 Thread Patrick Dung
Hello, Do you know what is this logo means, or the story behind it? I thought the BSD daemon (logo) has been around for many years in the past. Thanks and regards, Patrick Dung ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org

Re: BSD Magazine

2013-08-11 Thread dgmm
On Wednesday 07 August 2013 18:43:45 Frank Leonhardt wrote: > No man but a blockhead ever wrote, except for money. > - Samuel Johnson That sentiment pretty much wipes out FreeBSD and FOSS in general. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://

Re: New to Free-BSD with questions.

2013-08-10 Thread Warren Block
On Sat, 10 Aug 2013, r_oliva...@juno.com wrote: D.) Is there a site that I can download a complete copy of the documentation for Free-BSD, as one file and not a series/set of separate files? ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ has the Handbook in compressed

Re: New to Free-BSD with questions.

2013-08-10 Thread Eduardo Morras
On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:58:07 GMT "r_oliva...@juno.com" wrote: > New to Free-BSD. Downloaded a current ISO image and burned it to a DVD. > System boots from DVD to command line mode. > Questions are: > A.) Is Xwindows, (X11) included on the DVD copy? Yes, included. &

Re: New to Free-BSD with questions.

2013-08-10 Thread Frank Leonhardt
On 10/08/2013 10:58, r_oliva...@juno.com wrote: New to Free-BSD. Downloaded a current ISO image and burned it to a DVD. System boots from DVD to command line mode. Questions are: A.) Is Xwindows, (X11) included on the DVD copy? That's X, X11, Xorg or the X-Window System. Yeah, kind-o

Re: New to Free-BSD with questions.

2013-08-10 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:58:07 GMT, r_oliva...@juno.com wrote: > New to Free-BSD. Downloaded a current ISO image and burned it to a DVD. > System boots from DVD to command line mode. It should boot into a text mode installer. After installation, FreeBSD usually boots into a text mode (depend

New to Free-BSD with questions.

2013-08-10 Thread r_oliva...@juno.com
New to Free-BSD. Downloaded a current ISO image and burned it to a DVD. System boots from DVD to command line mode. Questions are: A.) Is Xwindows, (X11) included on the DVD copy? B.) If included, what command is used to start it? C.) What shell is installed as the standard shell in command

Re: BSD Magazine

2013-08-07 Thread Mark Felder
Isn't BSDMag now owned by iXSystems (purchased as part of BSDMall?)? And this seems odd / unprofessional to just blindly post on the -questions mailing list ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-q

Re: BSD Magazine

2013-08-07 Thread Frank Leonhardt
On 07/08/2013 13:19, Kamil Sobieraj wrote: Hello, I am from BSD Magazine (BSDMag.org), devoted to BSD operating systems. I would like to ask if you are interested in contributing an article? Current theme is: *Day-to-day BSD administration*. I believe that your experience will enrich our

BSD Magazine

2013-08-07 Thread Kamil Sobieraj
Hello, I am from BSD Magazine (BSDMag.org), devoted to BSD operating systems. I would like to ask if you are interested in contributing an article? Current theme is: *Day-to-day BSD administration*. I believe that your experience will enrich our magazine and bring valuable knowledge to our

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-30 Thread Jens Schweikhardt
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 07:01:40PM -0400, Kenta Suzumoto wrote: # Hi. Is there no built-in way of making "sleep" sleep in increments # of minutes, hours, etc? The GNU "sleep" can be invoked like "sleep # 1h" for an hour. The FreeBSD one's manpage leads me to believe we # can only use seconds, wh

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Stuart Barkley
On Tue, 28 May 2013 at 19:01 -, Kenta Suzumoto wrote: > Hi. Is there no built-in way of making "sleep" sleep in increments > of minutes, hours, etc? The GNU "sleep" can be invoked like "sleep > 1h" for an hour. The FreeBSD one's manpage leads me to believe we > can only use seconds, which is k

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Modulok
I'm personally a fan of a forest-green bike shed myself... >> It would still just be doing one thing - sleeping. I agree. Perfect solution fallacy aside, a sleep option with basic time increments would be useful for real-world purposes. I'm in favor of computing it as a multiple of seconds as pre

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread RW
On Wed, 29 May 2013 10:01:53 -0400 Paul Kraus wrote: > Agreed. When I first started dealing with Unix professionally (1995, > I started playing with Unix-like OSes almost 10 years earlier) I was > taught that each Unix command does one thing and does it well. It would still just be doing one thi

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread RW
On Wed, 29 May 2013 12:04:47 +0100 Chris Rees wrote: > On 29 May 2013 07:13, "Matthew Seaman" wrote: > > Right. The fact that on very rare occasions a minute may not have > > 60 seconds in it plus many other corner cases in calculating the > > current wall-clock time is an amusing irrelevance.

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Paul Kraus
On May 29, 2013, at 7:58 AM, Jason Birch wrote: >> Seriously, that explanation about different hours is not enough to prevent >> at least useful option. >> like >> sleep -f 1h >> (-f means force convert, without it you can see good explanation why sleep >> for 1 hour will be not sleep for 1 hour,

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Alexander Yerenkow
I'm just saying that there's pretty space for discussion. If someone raised this now, why not discuss it now. > If you sleep one hour, do you sleep one hour from now or one hour from the system clock which may change in the next hour? If it's the system clock, you may sleep for ten minutes or ten

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Jason Birch
> Seriously, that explanation about different hours is not enough to prevent > at least useful option. > like > sleep -f 1h > (-f means force convert, without it you can see good explanation why sleep > for 1 hour will be not sleep for 1 hour, and etc, and not get sleep at > all.). > Do one thing,

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Chris Rees
On 29 May 2013 07:13, "Matthew Seaman" wrote: > > On 29/05/2013 05:59, Michael Sierchio wrote: > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Joshua Isom wrote: > > > > > >> You think it's trivial until you read this: > >> > >> http://infiniteundo.com/post/**25326999628/falsehoods-** > >> programmers-belie

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Alexander Yerenkow
>what is stopping from interpreting 1h in similar manner to 3600? i.e. from now No, this is user-friendly, and thus can't be done :) But if think a second, sleep is used rarely by average users, mostly by programmers and other scripts, and they should know better what they are doing. Seriously, t

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-29 Thread Arthur Chance
On 05/29/13 05:59, Michael Sierchio wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Joshua Isom wrote: You think it's trivial until you read this: http://infiniteundo.com/post/**25326999628/falsehoods-** programmers-believe-about-time

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-28 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 29/05/2013 05:59, Michael Sierchio wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Joshua Isom wrote: > > >> You think it's trivial until you read this: >> >> http://infiniteundo.com/post/**25326999628/falsehoods-** >> programmers-believe-about-time

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-28 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Joshua Isom wrote: > You think it's trivial until you read this: > > http://infiniteundo.com/post/**25326999628/falsehoods-** > programmers-believe-about-time > > Some days have 8

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-28 Thread Quark
>You think it's trivial until you read this: > >http://infiniteundo.com/post/25326999628/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-time > >If you sleep one hour, do you sleep one hour from now or one hour from >the system clock which may change in the next hour?  If it's the system >clock, you may s

Re: BSD sleep

2013-05-28 Thread Joshua Isom
On 5/28/2013 6:01 PM, Kenta Suzumoto wrote: Hi. Is there no built-in way of making "sleep" sleep in increments of minutes, hours, etc? The GNU "sleep" can be invoked like "sleep 1h" for an hour. The FreeBSD one's manpage leads me to believe we can only use seconds, which is kind of annoying. Is t

BSD sleep

2013-05-28 Thread Kenta Suzumoto
Hi. Is there no built-in way of making "sleep" sleep in increments of minutes, hours, etc? The GNU "sleep" can be invoked like "sleep 1h" for an hour. The FreeBSD one's manpage leads me to believe we can only use seconds, which is kind of annoying. Is there an undocmented or missing feature her

Task bar missed when creating PC-BSD release 9.1 64 bit VM in VMware Workstation Version 98.02 build-1031769

2013-05-20 Thread Chou, David J
Hi, I am trying to create a virtual machine of PC-BSD release 9.1 64 bit in VMware Workstation Version 98.02 build-1031769 based on PCBSD9.1-x64-DVD.iso downloaded from ftp://mirrors.isc.org/pub/pcbsd/9.1/amd64/PCBSD9.1-x64-DVD.iso in Windows 7 64 bits system. The screen resolution is

Re: How to get kernel source code of free-BSD release 9.1

2013-05-19 Thread Adam Vande More
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Chou, David J wrote: > Hi, > > I have created a virtual machine of PC-BSD release 9.1 64 bit in VMware > Player Version 5.0.0 build-812388 based on PCBSD9.1-x64-DVD.iso downloaded > from ftp://mirrors.isc.org/pub/pcbsd/9.1/amd64/PCBSD9.1-x6

Re: How to get kernel source code of free-BSD release 9.1

2013-05-19 Thread Michael Powell
Chou, David J wrote: > Hi, > > I have created a virtual machine of PC-BSD release 9.1 64 bit in VMware > Player Version 5.0.0 build-812388 based on PCBSD9.1-x64-DVD.iso downloaded > from ftp://mirrors.isc.org/pub/pcbsd/9.1/amd64/PCBSD9.1-x64-DVD.iso , and > setup network

How to get kernel source code of free-BSD release 9.1

2013-05-19 Thread Chou, David J
Hi, I have created a virtual machine of PC-BSD release 9.1 64 bit in VMware Player Version 5.0.0 build-812388 based on PCBSD9.1-x64-DVD.iso downloaded from ftp://mirrors.isc.org/pub/pcbsd/9.1/amd64/PCBSD9.1-x64-DVD.iso , and setup network configuration and installed Firefox 20.0 by AppCafe

Re: License on the original BSD diff

2013-05-18 Thread Clifford Yapp
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Clifford Yapp writes: > > The issue is of some interest because the wiki page documenting > > candidates to replace GPL software in base list the OpenBSD copies of > > the diff tools: [...] > > We alread

Re: License on the original BSD diff

2013-05-18 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Clifford Yapp writes: > The issue is of some interest because the wiki page documenting > candidates to replace GPL software in base list the OpenBSD copies of > the diff tools: [...] We already have working BSD-licensed versions of diff and diff3 in the SoC repo. DES -- Dag-Erling

License on the original BSD diff

2013-05-17 Thread Clifford Yapp
Looking at the original code for diff: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/csrg/usr.bin/diff/ The licensing that applies to it seems to be simply that of the standard BSD license: http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/license.html Is that correct? If so, what's the relationship between that code an

Re: Hi BSD -

2013-04-07 Thread Julian H. Stacey
> > Since A.W.O.L bill is against that sort of thing I wonder why Lord > > Jesus is not working with all his might to do so. > > > > Is this emailing tongues? > > > Rod Don't feed troll quiet.rainbows@gmail.com Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD U

[slightly OT] Hi BSD -

2013-04-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-04-07 at 18:13 -0400, Rod Person wrote: > On 04/07/13 15:34, Lynn Steven Killingsworth wrote: > > Hi BSD - > > > > I know on my websites that more worrisome than someone caught reading > > my poetry as their own is that they have told something is mine tha

Re: Hi BSD -

2013-04-07 Thread Rod Person
On 04/07/13 15:34, Lynn Steven Killingsworth wrote: > Hi BSD - > > I know on my websites that more worrisome than someone caught reading > my poetry as their own is that they have told something is mine that > is not. > > I was thinking about putting the ports tar on

Hi BSD -

2013-04-07 Thread Lynn Steven Killingsworth
Hi BSD - I know on my websites that more worrisome than someone caught reading my poetry as their own is that they have told something is mine that is not. I was thinking about putting the ports tar on my BSD 10 when I was actually successful. I notice that apparently the talking point xorg

Re: bsd lost partition recovery

2013-02-17 Thread Polytropon
; > >> *here's the question:* > > > >> how to restore lost data of a formatted bsd partition?! > > > >> > > > >restore it from a backup? > > > > > > > no, from the formatted hard drive.. if only i had a backup.. > >

Re: bsd lost partition recovery

2013-02-17 Thread Leslie Jensen
2013-02-17 10:26, takCoder skrev: hi everyone, maybe this question is somehow off-topic but now i'm in an urgent need of any recommendations.. *here's the question:* how to restore lost data of a formatted bsd partition?! *and here's what has happened to me:* i was trying to

Re: bsd lost partition recovery

2013-02-17 Thread Erich Dollansky
wrote: > > > > >> *here's the question:* > > >> how to restore lost data of a formatted bsd partition?! > > >> > > >restore it from a backup? > > > > no, from the formatted hard drive.. if only i had a backup.. > You did it the

Re: bsd lost partition recovery

2013-02-17 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:56:54 +0330 takCoder wrote: > *here's the question:* > how to restore lost data of a formatted bsd partition?! > restore it from a backup? > *and here's what has happened to me:* > i was trying to install windows xp sp2 on a HD on my syste

Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice?

2013-02-02 Thread Adam Vande More
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 9:51 AM, james wrote: > On 28/01/2013 16:10, Paul Kraus wrote: > >> I have been using ZFS with GPT partitions with no issues. I have >> NOT compared performance between whole disk and partitioned, which is where >> the difference in Solaris arises (ZFS makes better

Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice?

2013-02-02 Thread james
On 28/01/2013 16:10, Paul Kraus wrote: I have been using ZFS with GPT partitions with no issues. I have NOT compared performance between whole disk and partitioned, which is where the difference in Solaris arises (ZFS makes better use of the physical drive's write cache). Well, it is

Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice?

2013-01-29 Thread Paul Kraus
On Jan 29, 2013, at 6:59 AM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: >> >> Is GPT compatible with Solaris, can Solaris access a GPT disk? > > Yes. I'm not sure if it can boot off GPT disk but on Solaris zpool > automatically creates boundary GPT partition to protect ZFS vdev. Under the Solaris-based

Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice?

2013-01-29 Thread Paul Kraus
On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:37 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: >> Presumably the disks are currently FreeBSD-specific. If I used raw >> disks instead of slices, could I read them from a Solaris system too? > > ^ I'm mostly sure you would be able to read disks from Solaris/x86. > ^ However Solaris/Sparc uses

Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice?

2013-01-29 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko
29.01.2013 04:37, Thomas Mueller: 28.01.2013 01:57, james: I have a 9.1 system with some SATA disks in RAIDZ, upgraded from 9.0. The disks are all the same type, and I formatted them for FreeBSD and put ZFS in a slice covering most of them. I have seen suggestions for OpenIndiana etc that it i

Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice?

2013-01-28 Thread Thomas Mueller
28.01.2013 01:57, james: >I have a 9.1 system with some SATA disks in RAIDZ, upgraded from 9.0. > >The disks are all the same type, and I formatted them for FreeBSD and >put ZFS in a slice covering most of them. > >I have seen suggestions for OpenIndiana etc that it is better to let ZFS >have the

Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice?

2013-01-28 Thread Paul Kraus
On Jan 27, 2013, at 8:36 PM, Shane Ambler wrote: > I recall reading that using partitions for zfs on FreeBSD was as good as full > disks. For a boot zpool we need to at least have a partition for the > boot-code and one for zfs preventing the use of a full disk. I have been using ZFS wi

Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice?

2013-01-28 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: There's one other good reason to use partitions when mirroring. When the time comes to replace a drive in a mirror it is necessary that the new drive be the same size (or larger) than the one it replaces. Given that drives of nominally the s

Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice?

2013-01-28 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:40:53 +0200 Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > 28.01.2013 09:03, Steve O'Hara-Smith: > > On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:05:05 -0800 > > Michael Sierchio wrote: > > > >> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Shane Ambler > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I recall reading that using partitions for zfs on

Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice?

2013-01-28 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko
28.01.2013 01:57, james: I have a 9.1 system with some SATA disks in RAIDZ, upgraded from 9.0. The disks are all the same type, and I formatted them for FreeBSD and put ZFS in a slice covering most of them. I have seen suggestions for OpenIndiana etc that it is better to let ZFS have the whole

Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice?

2013-01-28 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko
28.01.2013 09:03, Steve O'Hara-Smith: On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:05:05 -0800 Michael Sierchio wrote: On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Shane Ambler wrote: I recall reading that using partitions for zfs on FreeBSD was as good as full disks. No, it isn't - ZFS can fully utilize disk caches when

Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice?

2013-01-28 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko
28.01.2013 08:05, Michael Sierchio: On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Shane Ambler wrote: I recall reading that using partitions for zfs on FreeBSD was as good as full disks. No, it isn't - ZFS can fully utilize disk caches when presented with whole devices. There are possible reasons to crea

Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice?

2013-01-28 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko
28.01.2013 03:36, Shane Ambler: On 28/01/2013 10:27, james wrote: I have a 9.1 system with some SATA disks in RAIDZ, upgraded from 9.0. The disks are all the same type, and I formatted them for FreeBSD and put ZFS in a slice covering most of them. I have seen suggestions for OpenIndiana etc th

Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice?

2013-01-27 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:05:05 -0800 Michael Sierchio wrote: > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Shane Ambler > wrote: > > > I recall reading that using partitions for zfs on FreeBSD was as good as > > full disks. > > No, it isn't - ZFS can fully utilize disk caches when presented with > whole de

Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice?

2013-01-27 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Shane Ambler wrote: > I recall reading that using partitions for zfs on FreeBSD was as good as > full disks. No, it isn't - ZFS can fully utilize disk caches when presented with whole devices. There are possible reasons to create partitions - one being that if an

Re: ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice?

2013-01-27 Thread Shane Ambler
On 28/01/2013 10:27, james wrote: I have a 9.1 system with some SATA disks in RAIDZ, upgraded from 9.0. The disks are all the same type, and I formatted them for FreeBSD and put ZFS in a slice covering most of them. I have seen suggestions for OpenIndiana etc that it is better to let ZFS have t

ZFS - whole disk or partition or BSD slice?

2013-01-27 Thread james
I have a 9.1 system with some SATA disks in RAIDZ, upgraded from 9.0. The disks are all the same type, and I formatted them for FreeBSD and put ZFS in a slice covering most of them. I have seen suggestions for OpenIndiana etc that it is better to let ZFS have the whole raw disk and that this

Re: dd command: BSD analog of conv=fsync?

2012-11-19 Thread dweimer
On 2012-11-19 07:42, Thomas Mueller wrote: In the last episode (Nov 18), Thomas Mueller said: > What is the (Free)BSD counterpart of conv=fsync in dd command? > Command in question is > dd if=GNOME-3.6.0.iso of=/dev/DRIVE bs=8M conv=fsync > This is for writing to a USB s

Re: dd command: BSD analog of conv=fsync?

2012-11-19 Thread Thomas Mueller
> In the last episode (Nov 18), Thomas Mueller said: > > What is the (Free)BSD counterpart of conv=fsync in dd command? > > Command in question is > > dd if=GNOME-3.6.0.iso of=/dev/DRIVE bs=8M conv=fsync > > This is for writing to a USB stick, and of course DRIVE is

Re: dd command: BSD analog of conv=fsync?

2012-11-18 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Nov 18), Thomas Mueller said: > What is the (Free)BSD counterpart of conv=fsync in dd command? > > Command in question is > > dd if=GNOME-3.6.0.iso of=/dev/DRIVE bs=8M conv=fsync > > This is for writing to a USB stick, and of course DRIVE is replaced b

dd command: BSD analog of conv=fsync?

2012-11-18 Thread Thomas Mueller
What is the (Free)BSD counterpart of conv=fsync in dd command? Command in question is dd if=GNOME-3.6.0.iso of=/dev/DRIVE bs=8M conv=fsync This is for writing to a USB stick, and of course DRIVE is replaced by the actual device node; also I believe bs=8M, good for Linux, would be bs=8m in

Re: 8.3-R cannot mount non-BSD burned DVD

2012-10-07 Thread Jin Guojun
Although BSD file command does not recognize it, mount_udf can mount it correctly. It sounds like that we have issues in handling UDF FS. Attached are first two-page hexdump on both DVDs to help analyzing the problem. % cdcontrol info Starting track = 1, ending track = 1, TOC size = 18 byt

Re: BSD on IOS hardware

2012-10-03 Thread Shane Ambler
Greg Freeman wrote: Is it possible to load FreeBSD on an Apple Mobile device designed to run IOS? There are a lot of old iPads out there. If we could repurpose them to straight Unix pads that might be cool. On 03/10/2012 05:19, Sean Cavanaugh wrote: > I hate to say it, but wouldn't it be

RE: BSD on IOS hardware

2012-10-02 Thread Sean Cavanaugh
> -Original Message- > From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Shane Ambler > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 3:13 PM > To: Rares Aioanei > Cc: Greg Freeman; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re

Re: BSD on IOS hardware

2012-10-02 Thread Shane Ambler
On 02/10/2012 22:58, Rares Aioanei wrote: On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:18:06 -0400 Greg Freeman wrote: Is it possible to load FreeBSD on an Apple Mobile device designed to run IOS? There are a lot of old iPads out there. If we could repurpose them to straight Unix pads that might be cool. From th

Re: BSD on IOS hardware

2012-10-02 Thread Rares Aioanei
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:18:06 -0400 Greg Freeman wrote: > Is it possible to load FreeBSD on an Apple Mobile device designed to > run IOS? There are a lot of old iPads out there. If we could > repurpose them to straight Unix pads that might be cool. From there > shells and then maybe an open sou

Re: 8.3-R cannot mount non-BSD burned DVD

2012-09-29 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 22:44:24 -0700 (PDT), Jin Guojun wrote: > This problem seems having been there for a while, but was not pay > attention to it till now. > > Most DVDs burned under Windows machine cannot be mounted on FreeBSD > 8.3-R. It gives following error: > > # mount /cdrom > mount_cd9660

Re: 8.3-R cannot mount non-BSD burned DVD

2012-09-29 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 22:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Jin Guojun wrote: > Searched bug report, but did not find related report. > Does anyone have seen this problem? If so, is any working around for > this problem? I ran 8.3 but did not have this problem. But I must admit that the number of media coming

8.3-R cannot mount non-BSD burned DVD

2012-09-29 Thread Jin Guojun
This problem seems having been there for a while, but was not pay attention to it till now. Most DVDs burned under Windows machine cannot be mounted on FreeBSD 8.3-R. It gives following error: # mount /cdrom mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0: Invalid argument Some of those DVD can be mount, but no conte

Re: PC-BSD 9.0 in VirtualBox

2012-09-28 Thread dweimer
On 2012-09-28 12:06, Warren Block wrote: On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Mike Jeays wrote: I have been running PC-BSD 9.0 with the KDE interface in a VirtualBox VM, and notice that it uses CPU resources when idle, driving up my CPU temperature about 15 degrees on an otherwise idle machine. (It is an

Re: PC-BSD 9.0 in VirtualBox

2012-09-28 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Mike Jeays wrote: I have been running PC-BSD 9.0 with the KDE interface in a VirtualBox VM, and notice that it uses CPU resources when idle, driving up my CPU temperature about 15 degrees on an otherwise idle machine. (It is an Intel i5 quad four). Is this to be expected

Re: PC-BSD 9.0 in VirtualBox

2012-09-28 Thread dweimer
On 2012-09-28 07:03, Rares Aioanei wrote: On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 22:56:42 -0400 Mike Jeays wrote: I have been running PC-BSD 9.0 with the KDE interface in a VirtualBox VM, and notice that it uses CPU resources when idle, driving up my CPU temperature about 15 degrees on an otherwise idle

Re: PC-BSD 9.0 in VirtualBox

2012-09-28 Thread Rares Aioanei
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 22:56:42 -0400 Mike Jeays wrote: > I have been running PC-BSD 9.0 with the KDE interface in a VirtualBox > VM, and notice that it uses CPU resources when idle, driving up my > CPU temperature about 15 degrees on an otherwise idle machine. (It is > an Intel i5 qu

Re: PC-BSD 9.0 in VirtualBox

2012-09-28 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ Mike Jeays wrote on Thu 27.Sep'12 at 22:56:42 -0400 ] > I have been running PC-BSD 9.0 with the KDE interface in a VirtualBox VM, and > notice that it uses CPU resources when idle, driving up my CPU temperature > about 15 degrees on an otherwise idle machine. (It is an Inte

PC-BSD 9.0 in VirtualBox

2012-09-27 Thread Mike Jeays
I have been running PC-BSD 9.0 with the KDE interface in a VirtualBox VM, and notice that it uses CPU resources when idle, driving up my CPU temperature about 15 degrees on an otherwise idle machine. (It is an Intel i5 quad four). Is this to be expected

BSD on IOS hardware

2012-09-27 Thread Greg Freeman
Is it possible to load FreeBSD on an Apple Mobile device designed to run IOS? There are a lot of old iPads out there. If we could repurpose them to straight Unix pads that might be cool. From there shells and then maybe an open source alternative to IOS or Android. Maybe a way for people to

Stay out of GPL and Linux software in *BSD

2012-09-17 Thread jb
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Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-23 Thread Thomas Mueller
, Inc. I read an article online about some Linux constructs make it very difficult to port some software to BSD. This included systemd, also Xfce and GNOME 3. I figure this is why GNOME 3, out for some time now, has not yet been ported to FreeBSD ports or Ne

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-22 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "David" == David Jackson writes: David> The fact is, FreeBSD can fully support systemd and all kernel and system David> features, there is nothing here that is impossible for FreeBSD to David> support. So this statement in the WikiP is false? systemd is Linux-only by design, as it rel

Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-22 Thread J B
cratch her head thinking what kind of pseudo "progress" can be sold to those goofies in Linux ecosystem, and apparently in *BSD ecosystem as well. The Slackware dev hit it exactly on the nail ! Think and enjoy it. I will eventually comment more on

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-22 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:41 PM, David Jackson wrote: > That sort of shows my point in fact. There is nothing stopping FreeBSD from > implementing cgroups, udev, fanotify, timerfd, signalfd, its not like > Linux is going to enforce patents on these things, its software, and > freebsd can easily a

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-22 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Wednesday 22 August 2012 15:41:05 David Jackson wrote: > So this is clearly not about "portability", FreeBSD is free to implement > these software interfaces to assure that software is portable to FreeBSD. Really? You make software portable by writing it to one environment and then changing ev

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-22 Thread Markiyan Kushnir
ly technologies (cgroups, udev, fanotify, timerfd, signalfd, etc). Do you really think the Linux API has been taking the role of the POSIX API and the other systems are irrelevant ? Lennart : Yes, I don't think BSD is really too relevant anymore, and I think that this implied requirement for comp

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-22 Thread Polytropon
think the Linux > > > API has been taking the role of the POSIX API and the other systems are > > > irrelevant ? > > > > > Lennart : Yes, I don't think BSD is really too relevant anymore, and I > > > think that this implied requirement for compatibility

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-22 Thread David Jackson
acts: > > > " LinuxFr.org : Systemd use a lot of Linux only technologies (cgroups, > > udev, fanotify, timerfd, signalfd, etc). Do you really think the Linux > > API has been taking the role of the POSIX API and the other systems are > > irrelevant ? > > > Lennar

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-22 Thread Jerome Herman
eally think the Linux API has been taking the role of the POSIX API and the other systems are irrelevant ? Lennart : Yes, I don't think BSD is really too relevant anymore, and I think that this implied requirement for compatibility with those systems when somebody hacks software for the free des

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-22 Thread Jerry
, signalfd, etc). Do you really think the Linux > API has been taking the role of the POSIX API and the other systems > are irrelevant ? > > Lennart : Yes, I don't think BSD is really too relevant anymore, and I > think that this implied requirement for compatibility with those

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-22 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
BSD would not even be required to use systemd for its own bootup > sequence, which can be BSD init scripts still, but, systemd could be made > available on FreeBSD, called from FreeBSDs init scripts, for users that > wants to use it. > > Some here would make it seem like it is impos

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-22 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
signalfd, etc). Do you really think the Linux > API has been taking the role of the POSIX API and the other systems are > irrelevant ? > Lennart : Yes, I don't think BSD is really too relevant anymore, and I > think that this implied requirement for compatibility with those syst

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-22 Thread Michel Talon
irrelevant ? Lennart : Yes, I don't think BSD is really too relevant anymore, and I think that this implied requirement for compatibility with those systems when somebody hacks software for the free desktop or ecosystem is a burden, and holds us back for little benefit. " and cherry

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-21 Thread David Jackson
; Cheers from a Slackware user." >> >> For those of you who are unfamiliar - systemd is a replacement for SysV, >> LSB, >> and Upstart init subsystem scripts. >> >> Together with some other technologies like GNOME 3 (soon GNOME OS ?) they >> are &g

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-21 Thread David Jackson
r technologies like GNOME 3 (soon GNOME OS ?) they > are > aiming at being Microsoft-like Linux distro (soon OS ?). > > On my FreeBSD machine: > $ ls /var/db/pkg/ > ... > hal-0.5.14_19/ > dbus-1.4.14_i3/ > consolekit-0.4.3/ > polkit-0.99/ > upower-0.9.7/ > ... >

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-21 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 09:42:32AM -0500, Mark Felder wrote: > Those in on the core teams here are very well aware. Did you notice > we've survived this long without ALSA? :-) However, this is very > good reading for anyone who hasn't looked at Linux lately, and it's > worth mentioning that this is

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