Re: New widescreen monitor, old radeon card - will this not work?
On Monday 04 September 2006 08:18, Atom Powers wrote: > It wouldn't, because it doesn't know what kind of monitor you have. > > Take a look at the modline in this post to see what I'm talking about. > http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=69920 > I don't remember what that all means, but that card should be able to > support that resolution. > > Note: The monitor I'm using now, ViewSonic vx2025wm, shows completely > different behavior whether I use the VGA or DVI input; for example, MS > Widows simply would not recognize that it was capable of 1680x1050 > until I got the DVI input to work. ( To get the DVI to work I had to > shut everything down, unplugged, for a few minutes and boot it all > back up wit the DVI cable, only, installed.) Very cool. A lot for my poor feeble newbie brain to process. I'll bet you were right about the Radeon card being able to work. man radeon turns up a lot of these options. Looking at xorg.conf, it looks as if I have two devices specified. Section "Device" Identifier "Standard VGA" Driver "vga" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "GeForce 6200 LE" Driver "nvidia" EndSection I am not sure what vga is doing there (something xorgconfig stuck in?), but it does not seem to do any harm (?). I'm going to try erasing it and seeing if disaster strikes. It's picking up the correct refresh rates without any options specified in the device section. I would guess that if I were using the digital output, this might not be the case? I'm cheating a bit by having a windows box connected to the digital input and the FreeBSD box connected to the analog input, so bypassing the issue while avoiding paying for a digital KVM switch. It looks as if there is an order-of-magnitude difference in the processing power needed to do analog and digital at the same display size. I'm told that a 6600 is the minimum needed to cope with the 1680x1050 with digital. Oliver ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: New widescreen monitor, old radeon card - will this not work?
On 9/3/06, Oliver Iberien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, you'd think, but no. I got a $50 GeForce 6200 LE/256M card and it works, as long as I use the proprietary driver. With the standard nv driver that xorgconfig came up with, it was just as bad as the Radeon. The nvidia config utility did not add extra lines to the config file, incidentally. It wouldn't, because it doesn't know what kind of monitor you have. Take a look at the modline in this post to see what I'm talking about. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=69920 I don't remember what that all means, but that card should be able to support that resolution. Note: The monitor I'm using now, ViewSonic vx2025wm, shows completely different behavior whether I use the VGA or DVI input; for example, MS Widows simply would not recognize that it was capable of 1680x1050 until I got the DVI input to work. ( To get the DVI to work I had to shut everything down, unplugged, for a few minutes and boot it all back up wit the DVI cable, only, installed.) -- -- Perfection is just a word I use occasionally with mustard. --Atom Powers-- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: New widescreen monitor, old radeon card - will this not work?
Yes, you'd think, but no. I got a $50 GeForce 6200 LE/256M card and it works, as long as I use the proprietary driver. With the standard nv driver that xorgconfig came up with, it was just as bad as the Radeon. The nvidia config utility did not add extra lines to the config file, incidentally. Thanks, Oliver On Sunday 03 September 2006 09:12, Atom Powers wrote: > I don't know of any reason a less-that-eight-year-old Radeon card > couldn't support that resolution. I think you only need <64MB video > memory to support that resolution at 32bit color. Some monitors need > extra settings in the config line though. > > I have recently tested 1680x1050,32bit color with Nvidia 6600, 6800, > 7900 cards. (On MS Win, linux though. ) > On 9/3/06, Oliver Iberien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As usual, as soon as I post, I discover the correct search string to get > > me to the answer: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions%40freebsd.org/msg147148.htm > >l > > > > This poster even bought the same monitor I did. Does anyone know: Will > > newer nvidia cards generally work at this resolution? It seems safest > > just to get the one he did. > > > > > I have a new monitor with the following specs: > > > Horiz 31-87 kHz > > > Vert 56-75 Hz > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: New widescreen monitor, old radeon card - will this not work?
On 9/3/06, Oliver Iberien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As usual, as soon as I post, I discover the correct search string to get me to the answer: http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions%40freebsd.org/msg147148.html This poster even bought the same monitor I did. Does anyone know: Will newer nvidia cards generally work at this resolution? It seems safest just to get the one he did. > I have a new monitor with the following specs: > Horiz 31-87 kHz > Vert 56-75 Hz > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I don't know of any reason a less-that-eight-year-old Radeon card couldn't support that resolution. I think you only need <64MB video memory to support that resolution at 32bit color. Some monitors need extra settings in the config line though. I have recently tested 1680x1050,32bit color with Nvidia 6600, 6800, 7900 cards. (On MS Win, linux though. ) -- -- Perfection is just a word I use occasionally with mustard. --Atom Powers-- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: New widescreen monitor, old radeon card - will this not work?
As usual, as soon as I post, I discover the correct search string to get me to
the answer:
http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions%40freebsd.org/msg147148.html
This poster even bought the same monitor I did. Does anyone know: Will newer
nvidia cards generally work at this resolution? It seems safest just to get
the one he did.
Thanks,
Oliver
> I have a new monitor with the following specs:
> Horiz 31-87 kHz
> Vert 56-75 Hz
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Now, this is attached to a windows box with its digital out and a FreeBSD
> box with analog via a Radeon 7500 card. On this last, when I put these new
> settings into xorg.conf, it is not what actually shows up on the screen. It
> ends up being [EMAIL PROTECTED], says the monitor, more or less, which puts
> up a
> message complaining about it. It's also offset not in focus.
>
> Somehow, using the old xorg.conf file with all the wrong settings works
> better. There is a little distortion but not much I don't know why this
> would be. Limitations of the driver ("radeon")?
>
> Parts of the old xorg.conf file follow. I'd like to get this set up
> properly, Thanks for any help.
>
> Oliver
>
> **
> # Monitor section
> # **
>
> # Any number of monitor sections may be present
>
> Section "Monitor"
>
> Identifier "Multiscan E540"
>
> # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
> # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
> # comma separated list of ranges of values.
> # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
> # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
>
> HorizSync 38-70
>
> #HorizSync30-64 # multisync
> #HorizSync31.5, 35.2# multiple fixed sync frequencies
> #HorizSync15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies
>
> # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
> # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
> # comma separated list of ranges of values.
> # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
> # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
>
> VertRefresh 48-120
>
> EndSection
>
>
> # **
> # Graphics device section
> # **
>
> # Any number of graphics device sections may be present
>
> # Standard VGA Device:
>
> Section "Device"
> Identifier"Standard VGA"
> VendorName"Unknown"
> BoardName "Unknown"
>
> # The chipset line is optional in most cases. It can be used to override
> # the driver's chipset detection, and should not normally be specified.
>
> #Chipset "generic"
>
> # The Driver line must be present. When using run-time loadable driver
> # modules, this line instructs the server to load the specified driver
> # module. Even when not using loadable driver modules, this line
> # indicates which driver should interpret the information in this section.
>
> Driver "vga"
> # The BusID line is used to specify which of possibly multiple devices
> # this section is intended for. When this line isn't present, a device
> # section can only match up with the primary video device. For PCI
> # devices a line like the following could be used. This line should not
> # normally be included unless there is more than one video device
> # intalled.
>
> #BusID "PCI:0:10:0"
>
> #VideoRam 256
>
> #Clocks 25.2 28.3
>
> EndSection
>
> # Device configured by xorgconfig:
>
> Section "Device"
> Identifier "Radeon 7500"
> Driver "radeon"
> #VideoRam65536
> # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
> EndSection
>
>
> # **
> # Screen sections
> # **
>
> # Any number of screen sections may be present. Each describes
> # the configuration of a single screen. A single specific screen section
> # may be specified from the X server command line with the "-screen"
> # option.
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier "Screen 1"
> Device "Radeon 7500"
> Monitor "Multiscan E540"
> DefaultDepth 24
>
> Subsection "Display"
> Depth 8
> Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> ViewPort0 0
> EndSubsection
> Subsection "Display"
> Depth 16
> Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> ViewPort0 0
> EndSubsection
> Subsection "Display"
> Depth 24
> Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> ViewPort0 0
> EndSubsection
> EndSection
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New widescreen monitor, old radeon card - will this not work?
I have a new monitor with the following specs:
Horiz 31-87 kHz
Vert 56-75 Hz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Now, this is attached to a windows box with its digital out and a FreeBSD box
with analog via a Radeon 7500 card. On this last, when I put these new
settings into xorg.conf, it is not what actually shows up on the screen. It
ends up being [EMAIL PROTECTED], says the monitor, more or less, which puts up
a
message complaining about it. It's also offset not in focus.
Somehow, using the old xorg.conf file with all the wrong settings works
better. There is a little distortion but not much I don't know why this would
be. Limitations of the driver ("radeon")?
Parts of the old xorg.conf file follow. I'd like to get this set up properly,
Thanks for any help.
Oliver
**
# Monitor section
# **
# Any number of monitor sections may be present
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Multiscan E540"
# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
HorizSync 38-70
#HorizSync 30-64 # multisync
#HorizSync 31.5, 35.2# multiple fixed sync frequencies
#HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies
# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
VertRefresh 48-120
EndSection
# **
# Graphics device section
# **
# Any number of graphics device sections may be present
# Standard VGA Device:
Section "Device"
Identifier "Standard VGA"
VendorName "Unknown"
BoardName "Unknown"
# The chipset line is optional in most cases. It can be used to override
# the driver's chipset detection, and should not normally be specified.
#Chipset"generic"
# The Driver line must be present. When using run-time loadable driver
# modules, this line instructs the server to load the specified driver
# module. Even when not using loadable driver modules, this line
# indicates which driver should interpret the information in this section.
Driver "vga"
# The BusID line is used to specify which of possibly multiple devices
# this section is intended for. When this line isn't present, a device
# section can only match up with the primary video device. For PCI
# devices a line like the following could be used. This line should not
# normally be included unless there is more than one video device
# intalled.
#BusID "PCI:0:10:0"
#VideoRam 256
#Clocks 25.2 28.3
EndSection
# Device configured by xorgconfig:
Section "Device"
Identifier "Radeon 7500"
Driver "radeon"
#VideoRam65536
# Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection
# **
# Screen sections
# **
# Any number of screen sections may be present. Each describes
# the configuration of a single screen. A single specific screen section
# may be specified from the X server command line with the "-screen"
# option.
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen 1"
Device "Radeon 7500"
Monitor "Multiscan E540"
DefaultDepth 24
Subsection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection
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