Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?
On Monday 20 April 2009 11:58:39 am Keith Seyffarth wrote: I'm trying to print from my FreeBSD machine. I've been through a number of online tutorials and instructions on printing from Unix or FreeBSD in particular, but they all seem to start with the assumption that printing from the machine is possible. I'm trying to get to that starting point. I have installed: cups-base-1.3.9_3 Common UNIX Printing System cups-pdf-2.5.0 A virtual printer for CUPS to produce PDF files cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_2 Postscript interpreter for CUPS printing to non-PS printers gutenprint-cups-5.1.7_3 GutenPrint Printer Driver libgnomecups-0.2.3_1,1 Support library for gnome cups admistration hplip-2.8.2_4 Drivers and utilities for HP Printers and All-in-One device The printer I'm working with is a HP Officejet 4110. Hello Keith ! Ok .. first and to answer the topic: Yes, I can, and it has been that way since day 1 with FreeBSD in here. Your printed seems to be supported by hplip ... http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/officejet/officejet_4100_series.html There seem to be several issues with printing. First, since this is a USB printer, And so it's mine (an Hp LaserJet 1015) the pinter is always owned by root:operator with read permissions for user, group, and world. Adding these lines to /etc/devfs.conf link ulpt0 printer own ulpt0 cups:cups perm ulpt0 0666 Maybe you should have taken a look at the hplip post install message ... Here, take a look at this: [gonz...@inferna ~]% pkg_info -xD hplip Information for hplip-2.8.2_3: Install notice: ** UPGRADE FROM 1.X NOTICE * NOTE: If you are upgrading from 1.x you will need to change your devfs ruleset as hpiod is now gone, so remove it from you rc.conf. The printer communication now runs through cupsd. You will need to make the devfs ruleset changes to allow cups to access the usb bus and ugen devices so that it can enumerate the printers. You will also need to update your hplip.conf. See the instructions below. UPGRADE FROM 1.X NOTICE * Add the following to your rc.conf: hpssd_enable=YES So all you have to do if you have a custom ruleset setup is add the following to that ruleset in devfs.rules: add path 'usb*' group cups add path 'usb*' mode 0660 add path 'ugen*' group cups add path 'ugen*' mode 0660 If you have never setup devfs.rules please read the manpage and see: http://am-productions.biz/docs/devfs.rules.php The printer MUST attach as a ugen(4) device. This means that you must NOT have device ulpt in your kernel and ulpt must NOT be loaded as a kernel module. If you are seeing device connection errors restart the printing chain with the following command. NOTE: It MUST be restarted in the stated order. %%PREFIX%%/etc/rc.d/hpssd restart \ %%PREFIX%%/etc/rc.d/cupsd restart If upgrading from a version 2.7.9 copy the new hplip.conf.sample config. cp %%PREFIX%%/etc/hp/hplip.conf.sample \ %%PREFIX%%/etc/hp/hplip.conf If you are still having problems check: http://am-productions.biz/docs/hplip.php If you are still having problems send the relevant part of your /var/log/messages, console output from the hp-* utility that you are trying to run, and your rc.conf + devfs.rules files and the output of ls -l /dev to the maintainer. ** [gonz...@inferna ~]% So .. basically .. get rid of ulpt ... recompile your kernel if you have to, but get rid of it .. the printer MUST attach as a ugen(4) device ... Plug your printer in, turn it on and .. add this lines to devfs.rules (change the [system=10] to suit your needs if you have to) [system=10] add path 'usb*' group cups add path 'usb*' mode 0660 add path 'ugen*' group cups add path 'ugen*' mode 0660 after that, issue the following commands: cp /usr/local/etc/hp/hplip.conf.sample /usr/local/etc/hp/hplip.conf /etc/rc.d/devfs restart /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hpssd start /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd start log in to the cups config page and follow the steps to configure your printer ... when prompted for a printer URI, make use of hp-makeuri to determine what URI you should use .. I use it like this: hp-makeuri printer_serial_number and it will return something along this way: hp:/usb/hp_LaserJet_1015?serial=MYSERIALGOESINHERE feed that to the URI field and then move on to choose the ppd file which you'll be able to find under /usr/local/share/ppd/HP ... And that's about it .. will set the ownership to cups:cups and the permissions to read and write for user, group, and world on startup if the printer is already turned on and plugged in. However, if the printer is not turned on at startup, or if it is disconnected or turned off after system startup, ownership and permissions revert. Trying chown or chmod to the device at /dev/ulpt0 gives an invalid path error, and
Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?
What version of FreeBSD are you using? There was a problem with certain USB devices in the 6.x branch with timing out. What would the symptoms of this timing out be? what I'm seeing is pretty instantaneous. In fact, printing to lpr instead of cups (with cups disabled), I usually can't catch the job in the print spool folder (because I can't hit the up arrow twice fast enough to pull it out of my history before it thinks it has finished printing). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?
What kind of printing do you need to do? For the moment there are two things: 1. Create .pdf files from HTML/XHTML documents viewed in Firefox or Opera 2. Print HTML/XHTML documents viewed in Firefox or Opera to a printer. To send files to some either attached or network attached printer, you just need to: set up an entry in /etc/printcap for a printer named myprt, make something like: lp|myprt|HP OfficeJet 4110 N:\ :lp=:rp=myprt:rm=myprt.prt.full.hostname:\ :sh:mx#0:\ :sd=/var/spool/myprt:\ :lf=/var/log/printer.log: (Of course, change myprt.prt.full.hostname to a real address) I have this: lp|OfficeJet:\ :lp=/dev/ulpt0:\ :af=/usr/local/share/ppd/HP//HP-OfficeJet_4110-hpijs.ppd.gz:\ :if=/usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip:\ :sd=/var/spool/print.hp:\ :lf=/var/log/print.hp.log:\ :sh: create a spool directory for it in /var/spool (eg for a printer named myprt in printcap, create a /var/spool/myprt directory created directory /var/spool/print.hp create an empty log file for it touch /var/log/printer.log touched /var/log/print.hp.log then enable lpd in /etc/rc.conf - lpd_enable=YES added this This sets up a 'standard' printer destination (named lp) Then you can print using lpr(1) I can send files to the print spool this way, but then they just disappear from the print spool. There is no evidence of attempted communication with the printer, and certainly no printing going on. Some utilities want to use cups and other heavy stuff, but just for regular printing - of a file or from firefox or openoffice, etc you don't need that. Never used OpenOffice... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?
I'm trying to print from my FreeBSD machine. I've been through a yes. i do cat file /dev/lpt0 :) never used cups and never will. but i use lpd and postscript to pcl filter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?
On 20/4/09 23:36, Keith Seyffarth wrote: Googling that shows it to be a file shared with Windows boxes when you're running samba. I don't know if you set up samba or not, but I would ignore this error for now. It's likely unrelated to the printing problem that you're having. OK. Thanks. I guess. I was kind of hoping that figuring that out might be the fix... Do you have the startup script: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd ? yes If so, what is the output of /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd status? currently it's: cupsd is running as pid 721. but I did start cups manually since my last reboot. Cupsd was started automatically on reboot by the script. So that part is working fine. after rebooting the machine, it's: cupsd is not running. config info snipped It appears the problem is the printer. Try changing the perms to 0777 for testing purposes. If you're able to print, the problem is permissions. You'll have to figure out what permissions you need to get it working. That doesn't help. I get the same behavior with the permissions set to 0777. One person mentioned that you should be using the ugen device instead of /dev/ultp0. This thread might be relevant - http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/forum/read.php?9,546,547 You might have to abandon using cupsd for this printer. Yeah. We may not be using this printer long anyway, since it is nearly out of ink, and the ink will be $95. It would just be nice to be able to demonstrate that printing is an option. Also, from what I've been seeing in my testing and so on since Thursday, it looks like if you use CUPS at all, you can't use anything else, since CUPS overwrites things like /etc/printcap with its own settings frequently. And since I've been successfully using cups-pdf for several months, I'd need a replacement for that. At least with that, despite all the shortcomings of .pdf format, we can still get stuff printed. Just not in our office. If so, this might be helpful: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2004/07/08/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=last I had read through that several times. It is one of several places pointing out that the device has to be at ultp*, and if it's at ugen* you likely have a problem... However the pkg-message for hplip says differently. I had to recompile without ulpt in the kernel to get my hp c3180 psc to work, but it prints (and scans) fine from freebsd now. read the output from pkg_info -xD hplip It has got full instructions on what needs doing. Recompiling the kernel isnt actually all that hard, and is detailed fully in the handbook. Actually to any devs who might be reading, is there any reason we have ulpt built in rather than as a module? Vince ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 08:58:39AM -0600, Keith Seyffarth wrote: I'm trying to print from my FreeBSD machine. I've been through a number of online tutorials and instructions on printing from Unix or FreeBSD in particular, but they all seem to start with the assumption that printing from the machine is possible. I'm trying to get to that starting point. What kind of printing do you need to do? To send files to some either attached or network attached printer, you just need to: set up an entry in /etc/printcap for a printer named myprt, make something like: lp|myprt|HP OfficeJet 4110 N:\ :lp=:rp=myprt:rm=myprt.prt.full.hostname:\ :sh:mx#0:\ :sd=/var/spool/myprt:\ :lf=/var/log/printer.log: (Of course, change myprt.prt.full.hostname to a real address) create a spool directory for it in /var/spool (eg for a printer named myprt in printcap, create a /var/spool/myprt directory create an empty log file for it touch /var/log/printer.log then enable lpd in /etc/rc.conf - lpd_enable=YES This sets up a 'standard' printer destination (named lp) Then you can print using lpr(1) Some utilities want to use cups and other heavy stuff, but just for regular printing - of a file or from firefox or openoffice, etc you don't need that. jerry I have installed: cups-base-1.3.9_3 Common UNIX Printing System cups-pdf-2.5.0 A virtual printer for CUPS to produce PDF files cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_2 Postscript interpreter for CUPS printing to non-PS printers gutenprint-cups-5.1.7_3 GutenPrint Printer Driver libgnomecups-0.2.3_1,1 Support library for gnome cups admistration hplip-2.8.2_4 Drivers and utilities for HP Printers and All-in-One device The printer I'm working with is a HP Officejet 4110. There seem to be several issues with printing. First, since this is a USB printer, the pinter is always owned by root:operator with read permissions for user, group, and world. Adding these lines to /etc/devfs.conf link ulpt0 printer own ulpt0 cups:cups perm ulpt0 0666 will set the ownership to cups:cups and the permissions to read and write for user, group, and world on startup if the printer is already turned on and plugged in. However, if the printer is not turned on at startup, or if it is disconnected or turned off after system startup, ownership and permissions revert. Trying chown or chmod to the device at /dev/ulpt0 gives an invalid path error, and trying to do so following the instructions in the man page for devfs give 'operation not supported by device' errors. When th device is owned by root, attempting to print the test page generates a 'permission denied' error in CUPS. When the device is owned by cups, attempting to print the test page generates a failed error in CUPS. When the device is owned by cups, this error is reported in the error log in CUPS, if debug logging is enabled: [CGI] /usr/local/share/cups/drivers/pscript5.dll: No such file or directory There isn't a drivers directory in /usr/local/share/cups. I can make one, but where do I get the pscript5.dll, and what else is it going to rely on? CUPS et al were installed using portinstall, and CUPS is working well to produce .pdf files. I tried portupgrade last night on all the (I think) relevant ports, but the system thinks they are all up to date. So, questions: 1. how can I get permissions on the device to stick, so that I do not have to reboot the machine every time we want to print or have to power cycle the printer? 2. Am I correct that the missing .dll (that seems awfully Windows to me) is the problem in getting a filter to print? If so, what do I need to do to install it? And, actually, a third printing-related issue: How do I get cupsd to start on startup? I have these two lines in /etc/rc.conf:\ cupsd_enable=YES # enable cups printing management devfs_system_ruleset=system # something else they say cups needs but CUPS has to be manually started by root after each reboot. what else needs to be done to get cupsd to start at startup? Keith ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?
I'm trying to print from my FreeBSD machine. I've been through a number of online tutorials and instructions on printing from Unix or FreeBSD in particular, but they all seem to start with the assumption that printing from the machine is possible. I'm trying to get to that starting point. I have installed: cups-base-1.3.9_3 Common UNIX Printing System cups-pdf-2.5.0 A virtual printer for CUPS to produce PDF files cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_2 Postscript interpreter for CUPS printing to non-PS printers gutenprint-cups-5.1.7_3 GutenPrint Printer Driver libgnomecups-0.2.3_1,1 Support library for gnome cups admistration hplip-2.8.2_4 Drivers and utilities for HP Printers and All-in-One device The printer I'm working with is a HP Officejet 4110. There seem to be several issues with printing. First, since this is a USB printer, the pinter is always owned by root:operator with read permissions for user, group, and world. Adding these lines to /etc/devfs.conf link ulpt0 printer own ulpt0 cups:cups perm ulpt0 0666 will set the ownership to cups:cups and the permissions to read and write for user, group, and world on startup if the printer is already turned on and plugged in. However, if the printer is not turned on at startup, or if it is disconnected or turned off after system startup, ownership and permissions revert. Trying chown or chmod to the device at /dev/ulpt0 gives an invalid path error, and trying to do so following the instructions in the man page for devfs give 'operation not supported by device' errors. When th device is owned by root, attempting to print the test page generates a 'permission denied' error in CUPS. When the device is owned by cups, attempting to print the test page generates a failed error in CUPS. When the device is owned by cups, this error is reported in the error log in CUPS, if debug logging is enabled: [CGI] /usr/local/share/cups/drivers/pscript5.dll: No such file or directory There isn't a drivers directory in /usr/local/share/cups. I can make one, but where do I get the pscript5.dll, and what else is it going to rely on? CUPS et al were installed using portinstall, and CUPS is working well to produce .pdf files. I tried portupgrade last night on all the (I think) relevant ports, but the system thinks they are all up to date. So, questions: 1. how can I get permissions on the device to stick, so that I do not have to reboot the machine every time we want to print or have to power cycle the printer? You should use /etc/devfs.rules instead, adding something like: add path 'ulpt*' mode 0660 group cups This will set the right permissions when the node is created. 2. Am I correct that the missing .dll (that seems awfully Windows to me) is the problem in getting a filter to print? If so, what do I need to do to install it? And, actually, a third printing-related issue: How do I get cupsd to start on startup? I have these two lines in /etc/rc.conf:\ cupsd_enable=YES # enable cups printing management devfs_system_ruleset=system # something else they say cups needs but CUPS has to be manually started by root after each reboot. what else needs to be done to get cupsd to start at startup? Keith ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org _ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?
Keith Seyffarth w...@weif.net writes: I'm trying to print from my FreeBSD machine. I've been through a number of online tutorials and instructions on printing from Unix or FreeBSD in particular, but they all seem to start with the assumption that printing from the machine is possible. I'm trying to get to that starting point. A laudable ambition! cups-base-1.3.9_3 Common UNIX Printing System cups-pdf-2.5.0 A virtual printer for CUPS to produce PDF files cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_2 Postscript interpreter for CUPS printing to non-PS printers gutenprint-cups-5.1.7_3 GutenPrint Printer Driver libgnomecups-0.2.3_1,1 Support library for gnome cups admistration hplip-2.8.2_4 Drivers and utilities for HP Printers and All-in-One device Looks good so far. The printer I'm working with is a HP Officejet 4110. 1. how can I get permissions on the device to stick, so that I do not have to reboot the machine every time we want to print or have to power cycle the printer? Wrong file - add the changes to /etc/devfs.rules /etc/devfs.conf is for fixed devices - devfs.rules for plug-in stuff. 2. Am I correct that the missing .dll (that seems awfully Windows to me) is the problem in getting a filter to print? If so, what do I need to do to install it? I don't know - try it with the permissions set as above. And, actually, a third printing-related issue: How do I get cupsd to start on startup? I have these two lines in /etc/rc.conf:\ cupsd_enable=YES # enable cups printing management That should be enough to get it running. devfs_system_ruleset=system # something else they say cups needs in which case the first line in /etc/devfs.rules should be [system=10] that line starts a new ruleset with the name system and the number 10 atb Glyn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?
Keith Seyffarth wrote: I'm trying to print from my FreeBSD machine. I've been through a number of online tutorials and instructions on printing from Unix or FreeBSD in particular, but they all seem to start with the assumption that printing from the machine is possible. I'm trying to get to that starting point. I have installed: cups-base-1.3.9_3 Common UNIX Printing System cups-pdf-2.5.0 A virtual printer for CUPS to produce PDF files cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_2 Postscript interpreter for CUPS printing to non-PS printers gutenprint-cups-5.1.7_3 GutenPrint Printer Driver libgnomecups-0.2.3_1,1 Support library for gnome cups admistration hplip-2.8.2_4 Drivers and utilities for HP Printers and All-in-One device The printer I'm working with is a HP Officejet 4110. SNIP Follow the instructions here: http://desktopbsd.net/wiki/doku.php?id=doc:printing (prefer to build from ports rather than adding the packages as the instructions suggest) Note there are two files with permissions, devfs.conf and devfs.rules - you must make entries in both. One is for devices found during startup, the other for devices that are hot-plugged afterwards. cupsd_enable=YES should do the trick in rc.conf - nothing else needed to start cups as a service. Also note that cups has an lpr compatible interface, but should you wish to print from the command line using cups, you will have to usr /usr/local/bin/lpr to make sure you are running the cups' executable of lpr. Generally you should not need to touch any other cups related files to make it work. Just visit the web interface at http://localhost:631 and make any settings there. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?
Sorry - meant to add this to post Take a look here:- http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-OfficeJet_4110 A free driver is available, rather than the windows .dll Good luck :-) atb Glyn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?
snip Follow the instructions here: http://desktopbsd.net/wiki/doku.php?id=doc:printing I'm currently four days of troubleshooting after having done all that's listed on that wiki entry (though I didn't find that page until yesterday), and still trying to get close. That would be one of the pages I obliquely referred to as assuming that printing was possible... snip cupsd_enable=YES should do the trick in rc.conf - nothing else needed to start cups as a service. I'd have to disagree with this statement, based on experience. That line has been in rc.conf since Januray, and cupsd *never* starts on boot. I'd guess that there has to be something else done somewhere to get it to actually start. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?
Keith Seyffarth wrote: snip Follow the instructions here: http://desktopbsd.net/wiki/doku.php?id=doc:printing I'm currently four days of troubleshooting after having done all that's listed on that wiki entry (though I didn't find that page until yesterday), and still trying to get close. That would be one of the pages I obliquely referred to as assuming that printing was possible... When I read that the first time, I didn't have much idea of CUPS and devfs rules. I could still make it work. cupsd_enable=YES should do the trick in rc.conf - nothing else needed to start cups as a service. I'd have to disagree with this statement, based on experience. That line has been in rc.conf since Januray, and cupsd *never* starts on boot. I'd guess that there has to be something else done somewhere to get it to actually start. There must be some problem in your system - there is nothing else in my rc.conf about cups, and it does start at boot on my system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?
Sorry - meant to add this to post Take a look here:- http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-OfficeJet_4110 A free driver is available, rather than the windows .dll Downloaded and installed that ppd and selected it fro the printer. It still errors that the pscript5.dll is missing. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?
I'm trying to print from my FreeBSD machine. I've been through a number of online tutorials and instructions on printing from Unix or FreeBSD in particular, but they all seem to start with the assumption that printing from the machine is possible. I'm trying to get to that starting point. A laudable ambition! OK, honestly, am I working under a valid assumption that it *is* possible to print from FreeBSD? Or is this just going to engender greater frustration? cups-base-1.3.9_3 Common UNIX Printing System cups-pdf-2.5.0 A virtual printer for CUPS to produce PDF files cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_2 Postscript interpreter for CUPS printing to non-PS printers gutenprint-cups-5.1.7_3 GutenPrint Printer Driver libgnomecups-0.2.3_1,1 Support library for gnome cups admistration hplip-2.8.2_4 Drivers and utilities for HP Printers and All-in-One device Looks good so far. Thanks. The printer I'm working with is a HP Officejet 4110. 1. how can I get permissions on the device to stick, so that I do not have to reboot the machine every time we want to print or have to power cycle the printer? Wrong file - add the changes to /etc/devfs.rules /etc/devfs.conf is for fixed devices - devfs.rules for plug-in stuff. OK. I created and edited this file. At least now on attaching the printer, the permissions are other than root:operator. 2. Am I correct that the missing .dll (that seems awfully Windows to me) is the problem in getting a filter to print? If so, what do I need to do to install it? I don't know - try it with the permissions set as above. That doesn't change the behavior. It still fails to print, and seems to error on a missing dll. And, actually, a third printing-related issue: How do I get cupsd to start on startup? I have these two lines in /etc/rc.conf:\ cupsd_enable=YES # enable cups printing management That should be enough to get it running. it doesn't. :( devfs_system_ruleset=system # something else they say cups needs in which case the first line in /etc/devfs.rules should be [system=10] that line starts a new ruleset with the name system and the number 10 got that. However, it doesn't seem to have changed the behavior of the system - well, other than the printer ownership s different when it is plugged in. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?
Follow the instructions here: http://desktopbsd.net/wiki/doku.php?id=doc:printing I'm currently four days of troubleshooting after having done all that's listed on that wiki entry (though I didn't find that page until yesterday), and still trying to get close. That would be one of the pages I obliquely referred to as assuming that printing was possible... When I read that the first time, I didn't have much idea of CUPS and devfs rules. I could still make it work. yeah, the instructions there work great up to: I then selected the Printer tab, clicked the Print test page, and successfully printed a test page. I can go to the Printer tab and click Print test page, but what happens next is not even evidence of communication with the printer, just a failed message. cupsd_enable=YES should do the trick in rc.conf - nothing else needed to start cups as a service. I'd have to disagree with this statement, based on experience. That line has been in rc.conf since Januray, and cupsd *never* starts on boot. I'd guess that there has to be something else done somewhere to get it to actually start. There must be some problem in your system - there is nothing else in my rc.conf about cups, and it does start at boot on my system. Yeah, I'm guessing that there is something missing somewhere, or something that CUPS doesn't install by default, or something that is supposed to be set in some other file, or something, I just haven't got a clue where to look or what to look for. Having to start cups manually isn't really all that bad, but it would ne nice not to have to. However, that's all pretty moot if there isn't a way to get ink to paper from a FreeBSD machine... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?
cups-base-1.3.9_3 Common UNIX Printing System cups-pdf-2.5.0 A virtual printer for CUPS to produce PDF files cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_2 Postscript interpreter for CUPS printing to non-PS printers gutenprint-cups-5.1.7_3 GutenPrint Printer Driver libgnomecups-0.2.3_1,1 Support library for gnome cups admistration hplip-2.8.2_4 Drivers and utilities for HP Printers and All-in-One device Just a question: do you have foomatic filters installed? OpenPrinting suggests them, and I don't see them above. Keith ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org _ ¿Querés saber cómo va a estar el clima mañana? Ingresá ahora a MSN http://tiempo.ar.msn.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?
cups-base-1.3.9_3 Common UNIX Printing System cups-pdf-2.5.0 A virtual printer for CUPS to produce PDF files cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_2 Postscript interpreter for CUPS printing to non-= PS printers gutenprint-cups-5.1.7_3 GutenPrint Printer Driver libgnomecups-0.2.3_1=2C1 Support library for gnome cups admistration hplip-2.8.2_4 Drivers and utilities for HP Printers and All-in-One = device Just a question: do you have foomatic filters installed? OpenPrinting sugge= sts them=2C and I don't see them above. yes: foomatic-filters-3.0.2_4 Foomatic wrapper scripts sorry I didn't list them previously. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?
Keith Seyffarth wrote: I'm trying to print from my FreeBSD machine. I've been through a number of online tutorials and instructions on printing from Unix or FreeBSD in particular, but they all seem to start with the assumption that printing from the machine is possible. I'm trying to get to that starting point. A laudable ambition! OK, honestly, am I working under a valid assumption that it *is* possible to print from FreeBSD? Or is this just going to engender greater frustration? Unfortunately the frustration level tends to be inversely proportional to the brain power of the printer. Things are relatively easy if you have a printer which directly accepts PostScript. Unfortunately, this is not the case with an HP OfficeJet 4110, hence all the extra bits and fiddling. But you can actually print from FreeBSD. I've seen it with my very own eyes. :-) -- --Jon Radel j...@radel.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Keith Seyffarth w...@weif.net wrote: cups-base-1.3.9_3 Common UNIX Printing System cups-pdf-2.5.0 A virtual printer for CUPS to produce PDF files cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_2 Postscript interpreter for CUPS printing to non-= PS printers gutenprint-cups-5.1.7_3 GutenPrint Printer Driver libgnomecups-0.2.3_1=2C1 Support library for gnome cups admistration hplip-2.8.2_4 Drivers and utilities for HP Printers and All-in-One = device Just a question: do you have foomatic filters installed? OpenPrinting sugge= sts them=2C and I don't see them above. yes: foomatic-filters-3.0.2_4 Foomatic wrapper scripts sorry I didn't list them previously. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org See the instructions here: http://am-productions.biz/docs/hplip.php One of the items is mentions is that hplip requires that ulpt be disabled so that the printer appears as a 'ugen' device. I think this requires recompiling the kernel. Also, remember that lpd has lp* files (in /usr/bin/ ?) that may conflict with CUPS files of the same name in /usr/local/bin/. Did you rename/move the lpd versions? I struggled with cups and hplip for weeks. PCBSD seems to have these things working well; but for my FreeBSD server, I've switched from an HP printer to a used postscript Okidata. Best of luck, Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Keith Seyffarth w...@weif.net wrote: cups-base-1.3.9_3 Common UNIX Printing System cups-pdf-2.5.0 A virtual printer for CUPS to produce PDF files cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_2 Postscript interpreter for CUPS printing to non-= PS printers gutenprint-cups-5.1.7_3 GutenPrint Printer Driver libgnomecups-0.2.3_1=2C1 Support library for gnome cups admistration hplip-2.8.2_4 Drivers and utilities for HP Printers and All-in-One = device Just a question: do you have foomatic filters installed? OpenPrinting sugge= sts them=2C and I don't see them above. yes: foomatic-filters-3.0.2_4 Foomatic wrapper scripts sorry I didn't list them previously. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org See the instructions here: http://am-productions.biz/docs/hplip.php One of the items is mentions is that hplip requires that ulpt be disabled so that the printer appears as a 'ugen' device. I think this requires recompiling the kernel. Also, remember that lpd has lp* files (in /usr/bin/ ?) that may conflict with CUPS files of the same name in /usr/local/bin/. Did you rename/move the lpd versions? I struggled with cups and hplip for weeks. PCBSD seems to have these things working well; but for my FreeBSD server, I've switched from an HP printer to a used postscript Okidata. Best of luck, Andrew I should have added that the Okidata is printing via apsfilter. Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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--On Monday, April 20, 2009 12:36:03 -0500 Keith Seyffarth w...@weif.net wrote: A laudable ambition! OK, honestly, am I working under a valid assumption that it *is* possible to print from FreeBSD? Or is this just going to engender greater frustration? I can print from my FreeBSD box using CUPS. Whether you can from yours I can't say. cups-base-1.3.9_3 Common UNIX Printing System cups-pdf-2.5.0 A virtual printer for CUPS to produce PDF files cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_2 Postscript interpreter for CUPS printing to non-PS printers gutenprint-cups-5.1.7_3 GutenPrint Printer Driver libgnomecups-0.2.3_1,1 Support library for gnome cups admistration hplip-2.8.2_4 Drivers and utilities for HP Printers and All-in-One device This is what I have: pa...@utd65257# pkg_info -a | grep cups | sort -u Information for cups-base-1.3.9_3: Information for cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_2: WWW: http://www.cups.org/ WWW: http://www.cups.org/ghostscript.html cups-base-1.3.9_3 cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_2 that use these filters. This software is available in the cups-pstoraster OK. I created and edited this file. At least now on attaching the printer, the permissions are other than root:operator. I never had to do this to get printing working, and my devfs.conf file is a sample file with no lines uncommented. Printing works fine. (Note that I am not printing to a local printer.) That doesn't change the behavior. It still fails to print, and seems to error on a missing dll. This makes no sense at all. DLLs are a Windows version of a library. FreeBSD doesn't use them. Are you by any chance trying to print through Wine? And, actually, a third printing-related issue: How do I get cupsd to start on startup? I have these two lines in /etc/rc.conf:\ cupsd_enable=YES # enable cups printing management That should be enough to get it running. it doesn't. :( Do you have the startup script: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd ? If so, what is the output of /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd status? You should have the following files and folders: /usr/local/etc/cups/ classes.confinterfaces/ mime.types.Npstoraster.convs cupsd.conf mime.convs ppd/snmp.conf cupsd.conf.Nmime.convs.Nprinters.conf snmp.conf.N cupsd.conf.default mime.types printers.conf.O ssl/ What's the output of this command? # grep -v # /usr/local/etc/cups/cupsd.conf What's the output of this command? # cat /usr/local/etc/cups/printer.conf Have you read the CUPS documentation? http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/overview.html -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. *** Check the headers before clicking on Reply. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?
snip This makes no sense at all. DLLs are a Windows version of a library. FreeBSD That's what I thought. Here's the line in question: D [20/Apr/2009:13:07:46 -0600] [CGI] /usr/local/share/cups/drivers/pscript5.dll: No such file or directory doesn't use them. Are you by any chance trying to print through Wine? Nope. Don't have Wine installed. snip Do you have the startup script: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd ? yes If so, what is the output of /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd status? currently it's: cupsd is running as pid 721. but I did start cups manually since my last reboot. You should have the following files and folders: /usr/local/etc/cups/ classes.confinterfaces/ mime.types.Npstoraster.convs cupsd.conf mime.convs ppd/snmp.conf cupsd.conf.Nmime.convs.Nprinters.conf snmp.conf.N cupsd.conf.default mime.types printers.conf.O ssl/ $ ls /usr/local/etc/cups/ classes.confcupsd.conf.default printers.conf classes.conf.O interfaces printers.conf.O command.types mime.convs pstoraster.convs cups-pdf.conf mime.convs.Nsnmp.conf cups-pdf.conf.samplemime.types snmp.conf.N cupsd.conf mime.types.Nssl cupsd.conf.Oppd What's the output of this command? # grep -v # /usr/local/etc/cups/cupsd.conf LogLevel debug SystemGroup wheel Listen localhost:631 Listen /var/run/cups.sock Browsing On BrowseOrder allow,deny BrowseAllow all DefaultAuthType Basic Location / Order allow,deny /Location Location /admin Encryption Required Order allow,deny /Location Location /admin/conf AuthType Default Require user @SYSTEM Order allow,deny /Location Policy default Limit Send-Document Send-URI Hold-Job Release-Job Restart-Job Purge-Jobs Set-Job-Attributes Create-Job-Subscription Renew-Subscription Cancel-Subscription Get-Notifications Reprocess-Job Cancel-Current-Job Suspend-Current-Job Resume-Job CUPS-Move-Job Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM Order deny,allow /Limit Limit CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer CUPS-Delete-Printer CUPS-Add-Modify-Class CUPS-Delete-Class CUPS-Set-Default AuthType Default Require user @SYSTEM Order deny,allow /Limit Limit Pause-Printer Resume-Printer Enable-Printer Disable-Printer Pause-Printer-After-Current-Job Hold-New-Jobs Release-Held-New-Jobs Deactivate-Printer Activate-Printer Restart-Printer Shutdown-Printer Startup-Printer Promote-Job Schedule-Job-After CUPS-Accept-Jobs CUPS-Reject-Jobs AuthType Default Require user @SYSTEM Order deny,allow /Limit Limit Cancel-Job CUPS-Authenticate-Job Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM Order deny,allow /Limit Limit All Order deny,allow /Limit /Policy What's the output of this command? # cat /usr/local/etc/cups/printer.conf $ cat /usr/local/etc/cups/printers.conf # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.3.9 # Written by cupsd on 2009-04-20 12:51 DefaultPrinter HP Info HP Officejet 4100 Location wherever DeviceURI usb:/dev/ulpt0 State Idle StateTime 1240253002 Accepting Yes Shared Yes JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 OpPolicy default ErrorPolicy stop-printer /Printer Printer PDFWriter Info Creates PDF files in /var/spool/cups-pdf/ Location Internal DeviceURI cups-pdf:/ State Idle StateTime 1231089826 Accepting Yes Shared Yes JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 OpPolicy default ErrorPolicy stop-printer /Printer Have you read the CUPS documentation? http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/overview.html Most of that, plus the information in the FreeBSD handbook and FAQ, and several sites instructions on setting up CUPS, and several pages specifically on getting an OfficeJet 4110 working on Unix in general or FreeBSD in particular, with or without CUPS, and a bunch of the stuff in the online documentation in CUPS (from the Documentation/Help tab; which seems to be the same as the documentation from CUPS.org). It works well for creating .pdf files, but, from what I've seen so far (with only one piece of hardware to try to work with), not very well for getting a hardcopy directly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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--On Monday, April 20, 2009 14:20:48 -0500 Keith Seyffarth w...@weif.net wrote: snip This makes no sense at all. DLLs are a Windows version of a library. FreeBSD That's what I thought. Here's the line in question: D [20/Apr/2009:13:07:46 -0600] [CGI] /usr/local/share/cups/drivers/pscript5.dll: No such file or directory Googling that shows it to be a file shared with Windows boxes when you're running samba. I don't know if you set up samba or not, but I would ignore this error for now. It's likely unrelated to the printing problem that you're having. Do you have the startup script: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd ? yes If so, what is the output of /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd status? currently it's: cupsd is running as pid 721. but I did start cups manually since my last reboot. Cupsd was started automatically on reboot by the script. So that part is working fine. $ ls /usr/local/etc/cups/ classes.confcupsd.conf.default printers.conf classes.conf.O interfaces printers.conf.O command.types mime.convs pstoraster.convs cups-pdf.conf mime.convs.Nsnmp.conf cups-pdf.conf.samplemime.types snmp.conf.N cupsd.conf mime.types.Nssl cupsd.conf.Oppd What's the output of this command? # grep -v # /usr/local/etc/cups/cupsd.conf LogLevel debug SystemGroup wheel Listen localhost:631 Listen /var/run/cups.sock Browsing On BrowseOrder allow,deny BrowseAllow all DefaultAuthType Basic Location / Order allow,deny /Location Location /admin Encryption Required Order allow,deny /Location Location /admin/conf AuthType Default Require user @SYSTEM Order allow,deny /Location Policy default Limit Send-Document Send-URI Hold-Job Release-Job Restart-Job Purge-Jobs Set-Job-Attributes Create-Job-Subscription Renew-Subscription Cancel-Subscription Get-Notifications Reprocess-Job Cancel-Current-Job Suspend-Current-Job Resume-Job CUPS-Move-Job Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM Order deny,allow /Limit Limit CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer CUPS-Delete-Printer CUPS-Add-Modify-Class CUPS-Delete-Class CUPS-Set-Default AuthType Default Require user @SYSTEM Order deny,allow /Limit Limit Pause-Printer Resume-Printer Enable-Printer Disable-Printer Pause-Printer-After-Current-Job Hold-New-Jobs Release-Held-New-Jobs Deactivate-Printer Activate-Printer Restart-Printer Shutdown-Printer Startup-Printer Promote-Job Schedule-Job-After CUPS-Accept-Jobs CUPS-Reject-Jobs AuthType Default Require user @SYSTEM Order deny,allow /Limit Limit Cancel-Job CUPS-Authenticate-Job Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM Order deny,allow /Limit Limit All Order deny,allow /Limit /Policy All of that looks perfectly normal. What's the output of this command? # cat /usr/local/etc/cups/printer.conf $ cat /usr/local/etc/cups/printers.conf # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.3.9 # Written by cupsd on 2009-04-20 12:51 DefaultPrinter HP Info HP Officejet 4100 Location wherever DeviceURI usb:/dev/ulpt0 State Idle StateTime 1240253002 Accepting Yes Shared Yes JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 OpPolicy default ErrorPolicy stop-printer /Printer Printer PDFWriter Info Creates PDF files in /var/spool/cups-pdf/ Location Internal DeviceURI cups-pdf:/ State Idle StateTime 1231089826 Accepting Yes Shared Yes JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 OpPolicy default ErrorPolicy stop-printer /Printer Have you read the CUPS documentation? http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/overview.html Most of that, plus the information in the FreeBSD handbook and FAQ, and several sites instructions on setting up CUPS, and several pages specifically on getting an OfficeJet 4110 working on Unix in general or FreeBSD in particular, with or without CUPS, and a bunch of the stuff in the online documentation in CUPS (from the Documentation/Help tab; which seems to be the same as the documentation from CUPS.org). It works well for creating .pdf files, but, from what I've seen so far (with only one piece of hardware to try to work with), not very well for getting a hardcopy directly. It appears the problem is the printer. Try changing the perms to 0777 for testing purposes. If you're able to print, the problem is permissions. You'll have to figure out what permissions you need to get it working. One person mentioned that you should be using the ugen device instead of /dev/ultp0. This thread might be relevant - http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/forum/read.php?9,546,547 You might have to abandon using cupsd for this printer. If so, this might be helpful: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2004/07/08/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=last -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. *** Check the headers before
Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?
On 4/20/09, Keith Seyffarth w...@weif.net wrote: I'm trying to print from my FreeBSD machine. I've been through a number of online tutorials and instructions on printing from Unix or FreeBSD in particular, but they all seem to start with the assumption that printing from the machine is possible. I'm trying to get to that starting point. What version of FreeBSD are you using? There was a problem with certain USB devices in the 6.x branch with timing out. -Modulok- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Googling that shows it to be a file shared with Windows boxes when you're running samba. I don't know if you set up samba or not, but I would ignore this error for now. It's likely unrelated to the printing problem that you're having. OK. Thanks. I guess. I was kind of hoping that figuring that out might be the fix... Do you have the startup script: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd ? yes If so, what is the output of /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd status? currently it's: cupsd is running as pid 721. but I did start cups manually since my last reboot. Cupsd was started automatically on reboot by the script. So that part is working fine. after rebooting the machine, it's: cupsd is not running. config info snipped It appears the problem is the printer. Try changing the perms to 0777 for testing purposes. If you're able to print, the problem is permissions. You'll have to figure out what permissions you need to get it working. That doesn't help. I get the same behavior with the permissions set to 0777. One person mentioned that you should be using the ugen device instead of /dev/ultp0. This thread might be relevant - http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/forum/read.php?9,546,547 You might have to abandon using cupsd for this printer. Yeah. We may not be using this printer long anyway, since it is nearly out of ink, and the ink will be $95. It would just be nice to be able to demonstrate that printing is an option. Also, from what I've been seeing in my testing and so on since Thursday, it looks like if you use CUPS at all, you can't use anything else, since CUPS overwrites things like /etc/printcap with its own settings frequently. And since I've been successfully using cups-pdf for several months, I'd need a replacement for that. At least with that, despite all the shortcomings of .pdf format, we can still get stuff printed. Just not in our office. If so, this might be helpful: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2004/07/08/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=last I had read through that several times. It is one of several places pointing out that the device has to be at ultp*, and if it's at ugen* you likely have a problem... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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/usr/local/share/cups/drivers/pscript5.dll: No such file or directory Googling that shows it to be a file shared with Windows boxes when you're running samba. I don't know if you set up samba or not, but I would ignore this error for now. It's likely unrelated to the printing problem that you're having. Windows client computers can download printer drivers from their print servers. I imagine the above DLL is meant to enable that. Mike -- Michael David Crawford m...@prgmr.com prgmr.com - We Don't Assume You Are Stupid. Xen-Powered Virtual Private Servers: http://prgmr.com/xen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Keith Seyffarth wrote: Googling that shows it to be a file shared with Windows boxes when you're running samba. I don't know if you set up samba or not, but I would ignore this error for now. It's likely unrelated to the printing problem that you're having. OK. Thanks. I guess. I was kind of hoping that figuring that out might be the fix... Do you have the startup script: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd ? yes If so, what is the output of /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd status? currently it's: cupsd is running as pid 721. but I did start cups manually since my last reboot. Cupsd was started automatically on reboot by the script. So that part is working fine. after rebooting the machine, it's: cupsd is not running. config info snipped This seems to me to be area to focus on. Have you tried starting if from cli and seeing if any errors show. Also check logs etc recompile cups w/ debugging info if applicable. I suspect it's not so you may have to increase the verbosity in a config file somewhere. It's been awhile since I printed from FreeBSD, but my last experience was positive and not nearly as much issue as you're having. Anyways I suspect following cupsd not starting to it's end will result in either solving the issue or at least getting to a point where it's easy to resolve. You can also try to trace back /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd to see where it's failing. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org