[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 post-install experience, pt 2: dumped at a prompt

2010-02-23 Thread Liam Proven
After installing 150MB of software - a /vast/ amount for DOS! - I got a bare C:\ prompt at the end. No version message, no free-memory display, no Welcome, thanks for trying FreeDOS! message, nothing. Blank screen, C prompt. That is about as friendly as a kick in the nuts. Given that OpenGEM was

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 post-install experience, pt 1: mystery commands

2010-02-23 Thread Liam Proven
Next I went looking through the config files. Here I found the first problem. There is a tool called blackout called repeatedly. I tried HELP BLACKOUT - not known. I tried BLACKOUT - hung the PC. Ctrl-C didn't work, not Esc, not Ctrl-Break. Nothing quit it. Reboot. Try: BLACKOUT /?

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 setup program

2010-02-23 Thread Liam Proven
I found it very interesting to install DOS onto a PC from CD-ROM - this is something I've not done since Caldera gave me the sources for DR-DOS 7.02 on CD-ROM! I found the setup process a bit fraught, though. It seemed to me to be far more complex than it needed to be. For one thing, it seems to

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 setup program

2010-02-23 Thread dos386
(Odd, in my day, DOS apps generally didn't have dependencies!) Examples ??? AFAIK the only one is CWSDPMI (blame DGJPP, not FreeDOS ...) [1] I suggest removing the different memory configs as they will confuse novices Agree, tuning EMS/UBM and legacy crap depending on such should be

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 post-install experience, pt 2: dumped at a prompt

2010-02-23 Thread dos386
No version message, no free-memory display, no Welcome, thanks for trying FreeDOS! message, nothing. Blank screen, C prompt. That is about as friendly as a kick in the nuts. Agree, there is space for improvements. When I ran GEM, there were no links to any of this 150MB of programs. Bad :-(

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 bugreport place?

2006-11-03 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 3-Ноя-2006 07:36 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Blaauw) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: IIRC there is a CVS client for DOS, but I might have to find it. BB ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2gnu BB as stated on http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/showdoc.php?page=howto-cvs ?

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 bugreport place?

2006-11-03 Thread Robert Riebisch
Arkady V.Belousov wrote: Looks like this program is only for handling local CVS databases? Yes. How about porting a newer CVS version to DJGPP + WATTCP for TCP connections? ;-) see http://www.nongnu.org/cvs/ Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 bugreport place?

2006-11-03 Thread Blair Campbell
On 11/2/06, Bernd Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blair Campbell schreef: He meant the OpenWatcom package that is supplied with FreeDOS 1.0, but I don't know what that has to do with config.bat What I mean is that the kernel sources (if installed by FreeDOS 1.0.0) use a file named

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 bugreport place?

2006-11-02 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 11-Окт-2006 02:24 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Blaauw) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: BB * SETUP.BAT batchfile, line 99, which tests if a file can be created on BB C:\ , kinda needs a change. It relies on redirection and on BB the /F parameter of the SHELL LINE in a config.sys

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 bugreport place?

2006-11-02 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 11-Окт-2006 12:48 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: %comspec% /f /c copy nul c:\test.txt EA This is probably because the FIRST shell does the redirection and EA the second shell only does ECHO YES! Good point. And of course it EA would be very good

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 bugreport place?

2006-11-02 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 2-Ноя-2006 15:38 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You can't write on non-FAT partitions, because such partitions don't get drive letter. EA cdrom drives have drive letters and are non-FAT, plus But then they anyway formatted. :) There

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 bugreport place?

2006-11-02 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 2-Ноя-2006 18:41 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: EA cdrom drives have drive letters and are non-FAT, plus But then they anyway formatted. :) EA But no valid install targets. This is another question.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 bugreport place?

2006-11-02 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Arkady V.Belousov schreef: EA But no valid install targets. This is another question. FreeCOM does allow COPY NUL C:\TEST.TXT resulting in a 0 byte file. Can't help it if MS COMMAND.COM doesn't allow it, we're using FreeCOM anyway for installation purposes due to its added

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 bugreport place?

2006-11-02 Thread Blair Campbell
On 11/2/06, Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! 2-Ноя-2006 19:49 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Blaauw) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: BB Also I'm curious if installing OpenWatcom from FreeDOS 1.0 configures BB the config.bat, OW doesn't presents DOS installer. If

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 bugreport place?

2006-11-02 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Blair Campbell schreef: He meant the OpenWatcom package that is supplied with FreeDOS 1.0, but I don't know what that has to do with config.bat What I mean is that the kernel sources (if installed by FreeDOS 1.0.0) use a file named config.bat to indicate compiler settings. Also, FreeDOS

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 is compatible to MS-DOS version???

2006-10-30 Thread TG
I have a (silly) question. A brand new installation of FreeDOS 1.0 is supposed to emulate what version of MS-DOS? The reason I ask this is because while comparing FreeDOS 1.0 and MS-DOS 6.22 side by side, I started looking for features and other system utilities. I found that COMPINFO is the

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 is compatible to MS-DOS version???

2006-10-30 Thread Florian Xaver
Right now, my base install of FreeDOS 1.0 reminds me of a cross between MS-DOS 3.3 and MS-DOS 5.0. I know there will probably be no equivalent to MS-DOS Shell (courtesy of the Central Point Software UI) especially since GEM is widely available. Or oZone ;-)) Bye Flo -- Florian Xaver

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 is compatible to MS-DOS version???

2006-10-30 Thread Lyrical Nanoha
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006, TG wrote: I have a (silly) question. A brand new installation of FreeDOS 1.0 is supposed to emulate what version of MS-DOS? As far as I know, 3.31. Right now, my base install of FreeDOS 1.0 reminds me of a cross between MS-DOS 3.3 and MS-DOS 5.0. I know there will

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 bugreport place?

2006-10-11 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Bernd, Guys, where's the best place to put some feedback on the 1.0 ISO? tiny bugreports and tiny enhancement ideas as well to an otherwise great distro already. * Bugzilla? for real bugs ;-) * Tech Wiki? * Install Wiki? you can add a note about misbehaving 1.0 things to the

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 bugreport place?

2006-10-11 Thread Alain M.
Eric Auer escreveu: you have to decide yourself whether things are interesting for the list. sometimes it can be better to mail a few people directly first, and only start using the list as soon as things start being of public interest. That has been an old source of disagreement between

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 bugreport place?

2006-10-11 Thread Lyrical Nanoha
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, Alain M. wrote: Eric Auer escreveu: you have to decide yourself whether things are interesting for the list. sometimes it can be better to mail a few people directly first, and only start using the list as soon as things start being of public interest. That has been

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 bugreport place?

2006-10-11 Thread TG
PROTECTED] To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 bugreport place? Hi Bernd, Guys, where's the best place to put some feedback on the 1.0 ISO? tiny bugreports and tiny enhancement ideas as well to an otherwise

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 bugreport place?

2006-10-11 Thread Eric Auer
You know, a small piece of code could be written to simply read the partition table and check for FAT/FAT32 partitions instead of the whole %comspec% /f thing... The answer to this is two-fold... First, things are not that simple. You can get drives from various sources, and it can be

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 bugreport place?

2006-10-10 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Guys, where's the best place to put some feedback on the 1.0 ISO? tiny bugreports and tiny enhancement ideas as well to an otherwise great distro already. * Bugzilla? * Tech Wiki? * Install Wiki? * Mailinglist? * Privately mail Blair Campbell? What I've so far found are: * Are the exact

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 bugreport place?

2006-10-10 Thread Tony
- From: Bernd Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:24 PM Subject: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 bugreport place? Guys, where's the best place to put some feedback on the 1.0 ISO? tiny bugreports and tiny enhancement ideas as well

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 install howto and known problems

2006-09-25 Thread Eric Auer
Hi all, I created an initial version of a FreeDOS 1.0 install howto, including a list of known problems and workarounds. The text is partially based on the FreeDOS beta install howto. Because the SF Wiki can be slow, I created a static copy on my homepage:

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 in the news

2006-09-06 Thread Andre Tertling
Hi everybody, I took the freedom to post the images available on ibiblio to the emule content database at http://content.emule-project.net/view.php?pid=1519 so that more people learn about it and can download it within a reasonable time (took me several hours to get the smallest iso from

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 in the news

2006-09-06 Thread Adam Peart
I'm not sure how it's done, but I think you can also use ibiblio to host torrents for any content already on they're servers. See: http://torrent.ibiblio.org/ Andre Tertling wrote: Hi everybody, I took the freedom to post the images available on ibiblio to the emule content database at

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 in the news

2006-09-04 Thread Jim Hall
Just in case anyone is interested in the press coverage this is getting: Heise Online was the first to post an article about us: http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/77674 I also sent out something of a press announcement to a variety of news outlets, and I've contacted

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 in the news

2006-09-04 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Well, the first feature of FreeDOS mentioned in Slashdot is LFN support... I hope it is not bringing much headaches ;-) Aitor 2006/9/5, Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just in case anyone is interested in the press coverage this is getting: Heise Online was the first to post an article about us:

[Freedos-devel] freedos 1.0

2006-08-24 Thread tom ehlert
a:xcopy DIR test3 /d where DIR is a directory should create test3 without asking PS: the 'single stepping' bug singlestepping can be disabled (if it's not supported) by replacing CALL INSTALL with command /c install.bat Tom

Re: [Freedos-devel] freedos 1.0

2006-08-24 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 24-Авг-2006 14:48 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (tom ehlert) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: te a:xcopy DIR test3 /d te where DIR is a directory te should create test3 without asking Who is maintainer of xcopy? te PS: the 'single stepping' bug te singlestepping can be disabled (if

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 relase, was MS-DOS image

2006-08-19 Thread Alain M.
Michael Devore escreveu: Yeah, but if you release what is perceived by more than a few percentage of users as a failed install or operation, FreeDOS could require significant damage control. And give more credibility to a few vultures who will over-hype FD problems for their own purposes,

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 relase, was MS-DOS image

2006-08-18 Thread Michael Devore
At 01:08 PM 8/18/2006 -0500, you wrote: I feel it's important to get 1.0 out there to draw a line in the sand, that we're at least 1.0 quality. We can do what MS-DOS could do. Maybe we have a few bugs, but (and maybe this is a sad fact) what 1.0 software doesn't have bugs? People expect it. But

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 relase, was MS-DOS image

2006-08-18 Thread Jim Hall
Michael Devore wrote: At 01:08 PM 8/18/2006 -0500, you wrote: I feel it's important to get 1.0 out there to draw a line in the sand, that we're at least 1.0 quality. We can do what MS-DOS could do. Maybe we have a few bugs, but (and maybe this is a sad fact) what 1.0 software doesn't have

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 relase, was MS-DOS image

2006-08-18 Thread Michael Devore
At 02:01 PM 8/18/2006 -0500, Jim Hall wrote: Basically, what I'm asking for, and I can't believe I'm doing it, is for a bit more time to pass, keeping the release based on feedback levels and with an eye on a firm release date in a timely fashion. Your original announcement of a month

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 relase, was MS-DOS image

2006-08-18 Thread Alain M.
Michael Devore escreveu: Personally? I want another week to clear my schedule of incoming (and hope there isn't a lot more) plus monitoring, and another week after that for follow-up. Currently I feel like I should get a release out the door today, and frankly I'd like more time than

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 relase, was MS-DOS image

2006-08-18 Thread Gregory Pietsch
Alain M. wrote: Michael Devore escreveu: Personally? I want another week to clear my schedule of incoming (and hope there isn't a lot more) plus monitoring, and another week after that for follow-up. Currently I feel like I should get a release out the door today, and frankly I'd

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 relase, was MS-DOS image

2006-08-18 Thread Michael Devore
At 09:00 PM 8/18/2006 -0400, Gregory Pietsch wrote: Alain M. wrote: May I offer a suggestion: we can have FreeDOS 1.0 alfa FreeDOS 1.0 beta 1 FreeDOS 1.0 beta 2 That would keep the schedule *and* allow time to test... Boy, it seems like 1.0 is a perfection that no one can achieve

Re: [Freedos-devel] freedos 1.0 preview 2 installer testing

2006-08-10 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 26-Июл-2006 04:19 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: EA data. So echo hello foo,bat will write something EA like to foo,bat like: EA echo hello foo.bat [YES=Enter No=Esc] ? ---^ EA hello (also note the space after hello). This

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 slight delay; New testing release

2006-08-01 Thread Blair Campbell
Due to the serious nature of the recent bug reports for the latest testing release, I would like to release one more testing release (at least) that would hopefully fix the users' problems. (Probably coming out tomorrow). I've implemented free disk space checking in the installer and I may

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 slight delay; New testing release

2006-08-01 Thread Alain M.
I believe that you are doing the right thing. A stable 1.0 is *very* important, just in my opinion, of course ;-) Alain Blair Campbell escreveu: Due to the serious nature of the recent bug reports for the latest testing release, I would like to release one more testing release (at least)

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 slight delay; New testing release

2006-08-01 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Alain M. schreef: I believe that you are doing the right thing. A stable 1.0 is *very* important, just in my opinion, of course ;-) A stable 1.0 is appreciated, for how the public judges on FreeDOS. For other people it however counts as hey now we got a stable base platform we can extend

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 slight delay; New testing release

2006-08-01 Thread Michael Devore
At 12:08 AM 8/1/2006 -0700, Blair Campbell wrote: Due to the serious nature of the recent bug reports for the latest testing release, I would like to release one more testing release (at least) that would hopefully fix the users' problems. (Probably coming out tomorrow). Tangentially related,

Re: [Freedos-devel] freedos 1.0 preview 2 installer testing

2006-07-27 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Eric Auer schreef: Hi all, for extra fun, I traced through the installer batch files in the new fdbasecd (1.0 preview 2 cdrom iso) tonight... The new ISOLINUX 3.11 still did not like me (hangs on boot), but I could again use the special boot diskette... The cdrom driver liked my dvd drive

[Freedos-devel] freedos 1.0 preview 2 installer testing

2006-07-25 Thread Eric Auer
Hi all, for extra fun, I traced through the installer batch files in the new fdbasecd (1.0 preview 2 cdrom iso) tonight... The new ISOLINUX 3.11 still did not like me (hangs on boot), but I could again use the special boot diskette... The cdrom driver liked my dvd drive better this time, no crc

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-22 Thread Florian Xaver
Another thing when running FreeDOS in a VM is the CPU usage of the host machine. It will be go to 100% and the CPU fan will start. I use always the FDAPM with the parameter APMDOS so the HLT command is used (I think it's the instruction). With this, the host CPU is about 4% usage on my 1GHz

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-22 Thread Andreas Bollhalder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Arkady V.Belousov wrote: AB Most emulators / virtualizer are now close to 1 (as of QEMU and VMware). AB There is no real / perfect solution to have a precise clock in a VM. AB This is because it would have a big performance penalty. Let me

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-22 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 21-Июл-2006 18:43 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Bollhalder) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: AB There is no real / perfect solution to have a precise clock in a VM. AB This is because it would have a big performance penalty. Let me doubt in this - for example, for DOS

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-20 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 19-Июл-2006 17:49 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Bollhalder) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: AB for two days and I had to read about 70 mail... I personally use QEMU AB and VMware Server for testing purposes and timers often run too fast. I AB remember that I saw this effect in

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-20 Thread Andreas Bollhalder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As I can tell from my experince, the factor depends a lot from the host speed and emulation / virtualisation software. I saw speed differences from about a bit faster ( 1.0) up to 10 times. Most emulators / virtualizer are now close to 1 (as of QEMU

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-20 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 20-Июл-2006 18:43 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Bollhalder) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: Does this mean, that when you run some program, which shows clock (for example, Norton and Volcov Commander may show clock), then this clock is too fast? And how it fast - 1.5

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-19 Thread Andreas Bollhalder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ok, first sorry about the unneeded info. I couldn't check my emails for two days and I had to read about 70 mail... I personally use QEMU and VMware Server for testing purposes and timers often run too fast. I remember that I saw this effect in Bochs

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-18 Thread Jim Hall
I feel very strongly that we must not have timeouts on the options when you first boot. Eric gives a good example - it happened to me. I was at work when I was testing the new CDROM (on Parallels on my iMac) and happened to get a phone call. When I looked back at my session, I had gotten an

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-18 Thread Michael Devore
At 12:41 PM 7/17/2006 -0700, Blair Campbell wrote: The only two timeouts are the first timeout which defaults to boot from the hard drive rather than the CD-ROM (nothing wrong with that IMHO), and the second just boots defaultly into installation mode, which is what most people will be after. I,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-18 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 17-Июл-2006 19:01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: The only two timeouts are the first timeout which defaults to boot from the hard drive rather than the CD-ROM (nothing wrong with that IMHO), and the second just boots defaultly into

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-18 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 18-Июл-2006 23:09 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Bollhalder) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: One thing I would recommend is that we not have a timer on the options when you boot the install CD. If I were a new user to FreeDOS, I'd probably feel a bit rushed and would prefer to

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-18 Thread Alain M.
We agree (Eric, Arkady ans me(Alain)) without any discussion! This must be something to comemorate... Alain Arkady V.Belousov escreveu: Win9x setup gives timeout before reboot, _after_ setup finished (some steps). And I disagree, that installer should be timeouted in any part,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-18 Thread Alain M.
Arkady V.Belousov escreveu: AB Especially when testing in a VM, the timer runs often too fast. This is very strange, because shouldn't happen - config.c for timeouts uses BIOS timer variable (see GetBiosTime() usage in GetBiosKey()). And, with current code in GetBiosKey(), worser case

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-17 Thread Blair Campbell
Soon available at www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.0-Testing will be the files: fdfullws.iso - FreeDOS with all disksets and corrosponding sources fdfullcd.iso - FreeDOS with all disksets without sources fdbasews.iso - FreeDOS BASE diskset with corrosponding sources

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-17 Thread Jim Hall
I'm experimenting with fdfullws.iso at the moment. It looks good so far, but I'm not done with the install yet. There is some menu cleanup that we could do before 1.0 ... I'll do some more experimenting and see if I can suggest something. One thing I would recommend is that we not have a

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-17 Thread Marcus Furlong
Jim Hall wrote: I'm experimenting with fdfullws.iso at the moment. It looks good so far, but I'm not done with the install yet. There is some menu cleanup that we could do before 1.0 ... I'll do some more experimenting and see if I can suggest something. One thing I would recommend is

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing distribution soon available

2006-07-17 Thread Blair Campbell
They have 15 seconds the first time (Win98 only gives 10 FYI), and the second timeout gives 30 seconds. More than enough IMHO. On 7/17/06, Eric Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only two timeouts are the first timeout which defaults to boot from the hard drive rather than the CD-ROM

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 Testing Release

2006-07-15 Thread Blair Campbell
Everybody can expect a testing release on Sunday. It's ready, but I have to tie up some loose ends and I'll be busy all day Saturday. -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0

2006-06-30 Thread Jim Hall
Blair Campbell wrote: I think that 1.0 pre1 is good to start with, as we want to be able to work out distribution bugs before a final release (we don't want to repeat SR2). I'd rather we went for 1.0 instead of 1.0 pre1. I agree we should verify the distribution, but I'd rather we not

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0

2005-12-25 Thread aitorsm
errors). Thus LFN support should not be mandatory, in fact we may want to offer support for it as a second binary (eg tree v3.x is intended for older systems or spaced limited ones, whereas pdtree (tree v4.x) supports LFNs (and additional items on NT systems such as indicating SPARSE

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0

2005-12-17 Thread Blair Campbell
errors). Thus LFN support should not be mandatory, in fact we may want to offer support for it as a second binary (eg tree v3.x is intended for older systems or spaced limited ones, whereas pdtree (tree v4.x) supports LFNs (and additional items on NT systems such as indicating SPARSE

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0

2005-11-09 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 8-Ноя-2005 22:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: BC May be distributed freely, but not sold as a programmer's tool. BC Hmm. Seems to be compatible with the GPL No, this is _not_ compatible to GPL (GPL doesn't restricts usage,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0

2005-11-09 Thread Blair Campbell
BC May be distributed freely, but not sold as a programmer's tool. BC Hmm. Seems to be compatible with the GPL No, this is _not_ compatible to GPL (GPL doesn't restricts usage, including solding). But isn't it against the GPL to sell source code or binary unless it is a distribution

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0

2005-11-09 Thread Eric Auer
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, Blair Campbell wrote: BC May be distributed freely, but not sold as a programmer's tool. BC Hmm. Seems to be compatible with the GPL But isn't it against the GPL to sell source code or binary unless it is a distribution fee? I think that this is what the author

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0

2005-11-09 Thread Mark Bailey
Blair Campbell wrote: BC May be distributed freely, but not sold as a programmer's tool. BC Hmm. Seems to be compatible with the GPL No, this is _not_ compatible to GPL (GPL doesn't restricts usage, including solding). But isn't it against the GPL to sell source code or binary unless

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0

2005-11-08 Thread Aitor Santamaría Merino
Many thanks! Interesting... I'll see about licensing, of course. Aitor Blair Campbell escribió: (Well, personally I would not be happy with LFN being mandatory, it'd force me to entirely write LFN for Pascal, or see how FPC's LFN can be compiled for TP, as the KEYB non-resident code is, for the

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0

2005-11-08 Thread Blair Campbell
Many thanks! Interesting... I'll see about licensing, of course. Aitor Kim Kokkonen, TurboPower Software Co. CompuServe 76004,2611 May be distributed freely, but not sold as a programmer's tool. Version 1.0, 10/3/95 Hmm. Seems to be compatible with the GPL (or other open-source

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0

2005-11-07 Thread Blair Campbell
dblspace/drvspace/stacker clone using large amounts of code from the linux fs driver dmsdosfs For all compilers, for assembler, etc? dmsdosfs is written in C. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0

2005-11-07 Thread Blair Campbell
(Well, personally I would not be happy with LFN being mandatory, it'd force me to entirely write LFN for Pascal, or see how FPC's LFN can be compiled for TP, as the KEYB non-resident code is, for the moment, written in Pascal, the only inheritance remaining from the xkeyb days). What about

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0

2005-10-16 Thread Michael Devore
At 10:21 PM 10/15/2005 -0700, Blair Campbell wrote: Hi. I just thought that I'd start a topic before I left for two weeks about a FreeDOS 1.0 release. It has been suggested that I release my Beta 9 Enhanced Release distro as a FreeDOS 1.0 pre-release distro. For one, this would mean that it

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0

2005-10-16 Thread Florian Xaver
Hi! I am very lucky with FreeDOS at the moment. This week it was the first time, i have had a STABLE FreeDOS system!!! I may tell you, which drivers i am using(latest versions of drivers): (FreeDOS kernel from 21. Juli 2005) himem.exe udma2.sys duse.exe (USB support) ctmouse.exe atapicdd.sys

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0

2005-10-16 Thread Aitor Santamaría Merino
Hi, Blair Campbell escribió: Hi. I just thought that I'd start a topic before I left for two weeks about a FreeDOS 1.0 release. It has been suggested that I release my Beta 9 Enhanced Release distro as a FreeDOS 1.0 pre-release distro. For one, this would mean that it would get tested more

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 TODO list ready (but not yet posted)

2004-03-26 Thread tom ehlert
emm386 RAM=m-n range for UMBs + EMS emm386 ROM=m-n range of RAM to be used to shadow ROM as soon as someone finds out what that's supposed to do _exactly_ ASM My guesses: ASM RAM wrong guess ASM My suspicion is ... ASM ROM, my guessing is (only a guessing), ... e.g. Eric implemented it as

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 TODO list ready (but not yet posted)

2004-03-25 Thread Aitor Santamaría Merino
Hi all, I have committed most of the pending changes to the TODO list. While Jim and I acknowledge on the way of reintegrating it on the site, Bernd has kindly posted a preview of the list in the links below: 1.0 todo's: http://fdos.org/ripcord/fdos_1_0/official/todos.htm post-1.0:

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 TODO list ready (but not yet posted)

2004-03-25 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
Thanks, Aitor! 1.0 todo's: http://fdos.org/ripcord/fdos_1_0/official/todos.htm As far as I know, APPEND is considered dangerous and incompatible. It had better stay missing. I think that SCANDISK is the most important missing program. Whether to borrow code for it from CHKDSK, DOSFSCK, both or

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 TODO list ready (but not yet posted)

2004-03-25 Thread Alain
Hi, I found this: chkdsk Ready 2003-10-6 I don't agree. If we have a fat32 kernel, and chkdsk is only fat16 we cannot use it :( There could be a reference to dosfsck, stating not compatible or something. Alain Aitor Santamaría Merino escreveu: I have committed most of the pending

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 TODO list ready (but not yet posted)

2004-03-25 Thread Alain
tom ehlert escreveu: himem /TESTMEM:ON|OFF really want a (bad) memory test in 1.0 ? As bad as is MS's is, it did save me many times. Consider it not a _test_for_100%_ok_ but as a _test_if_exists_ and you can understand how good it is. IMHO if implemented, it should be implemented with that

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 TODO list ready (but not yet posted)

2004-03-25 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
If we have a fat32 kernel, and chkdsk is only fat16 we cannot use it :( We can, but only on FAT12 and FAT16 volumes. But SCANDISK must support FAT32. That's why it had better use the DOSFSCK, not CHKDSK engine. --- This SF.Net email is

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 TODO list ready (but not yet posted)

2004-03-25 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Luchezar Georgiev wrote: Thanks, Aitor! 1.0 todo's: http://fdos.org/ripcord/fdos_1_0/official/todos.htm As far as I know, APPEND is considered dangerous and incompatible. It had better stay missing. I think that SCANDISK is the most important missing program. it may

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 TODO list ready (but not yet posted)

2004-03-25 Thread tom ehlert
Hello Alain, A tom ehlert escreveu: himem /TESTMEM:ON|OFF really want a (bad) memory test in 1.0 ? A As bad as is MS's is, it did save me many times. Consider it not a A _test_for_100%_ok_ but as a _test_if_exists_ and I disagree. If you want a memorytest (I don't question that), you can

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 TODO list ready (but not yet posted)

2004-03-25 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
Yes, Bart, the show must go on! ;-) The FreeDOS spec still states that we should be compatible with MSDOS 3.3. Here is a quote from the spec (http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/spec/spec.html): The MS-DOS 3.3 compatibility extends only to the FreeDOS kernel. FreeDOS programs should be compatible

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 TODO list ready (but not yet posted)

2004-03-25 Thread Aitor Santamaría Merino
Nice that you pointed about FAT32. I'll explain what I tried to reflect in the list (because FAT32 was not popular time ago). My point has been: FAT32 support is left as post-1.0. The fact that KERNEL, FDISK and other components already support FAT32 is an extra plus, but maybe we don't need to

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 TODO list ready (but not yet posted)

2004-03-25 Thread Aitor Santamaría Merino
Hi, BTW, TO EVERYBODY (I forgot to say): changes will not be commited IMMEDIATELY, ok? tom ehlert escribió: emm386 RAM=m-n range for UMBs + EMS emm386 ROM=m-n range of RAM to be used to shadow ROM as soon as someone finds out what that's supposed to do _exactly_ My guesses: RAM (you can

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.0 TODO list ready (but not yet posted)

2004-03-25 Thread Gregory Pietsch
Aitor Santamaría Merino wrote: Hi, Gregory Pietsch escribió: I don't see anything about edlin or code in there, so I guess they are okay, or am I just not getting any feedback? Oops, sorry! When the list was first posted, EDLIN didn't exist, so I'll add it (to MISC utilities, ok?). Could