[Freedos-user] Dhcp
Hello, When I installed freedos, I have a MacBook pro running Mac os x snow leopard, the install got hung up on dhcp configuration. I tried several times where I entered the settings manually edited the configuration file manual and chose the default with no luck. Most everything else got installed, I was able to get to the c drive etc., I went into the lynx directory and tried to start the lynx executable. But it wouldn't start. My computer said no such directory, even though the lynx file is an executable? So I am wondering 1. Is there anyway to configure dhcp? Either by reinstalling or setting it up now? 2. If I can't configure dhcp, why did my computer say no such directory when I tried to launch lynx? Like is dos installed properly? Any help would be appreciated. Sent from my iPhone -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:00 PM, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, When I installed freedos, I have a MacBook pro running Mac os x snow leopard, the install got hung up on dhcp configuration. I tried several times where I entered the settings manually edited the configuration file manual and chose the default with no luck. Most everything else got installed, I was able to get to the c drive etc., I went into the lynx directory and tried to start the lynx executable. But it wouldn't start. My computer said no such directory, even though the lynx file is an executable? So I am wondering 1. Is there anyway to configure dhcp? Either by reinstalling or setting it up now? 2. If I can't configure dhcp, why did my computer say no such directory when I tried to launch lynx? Like is dos installed properly? Any help would be appreciated. Did you install a TCP stack in the first place? That doesn't come natively. If not this one is a (good) possibility: http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/ Mike -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp
Thanks for the reply and link, I downloaded mTCP, So I guess I have to install this, some how and then I can reinstall freedos and dhcp should configure? I have to read the files that came with mTCP, Thanks again, any help with setting this up would be great. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Mike Eriksen thinstation.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:00 PM, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, When I installed freedos, I have a MacBook pro running Mac os x snow leopard, the install got hung up on dhcp configuration. I tried several times where I entered the settings manually edited the configuration file manual and chose the default with no luck. Most everything else got installed, I was able to get to the c drive etc., I went into the lynx directory and tried to start the lynx executable. But it wouldn't start. My computer said no such directory, even though the lynx file is an executable? So I am wondering 1. Is there anyway to configure dhcp? Either by reinstalling or setting it up now? 2. If I can't configure dhcp, why did my computer say no such directory when I tried to launch lynx? Like is dos installed properly? Any help would be appreciated. Did you install a TCP stack in the first place? That doesn't come natively. If not this one is a (good) possibility: http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/ Mike -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:34 PM, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for the reply and link, I downloaded mTCP, So I guess I have to install this, some how and then I can reinstall freedos and dhcp should configure? Install it on top of FreeDOS - first FD then mTCP. I only used it once last summer so I'm not experienced, but at that time it was trivial. Just read the docs. Mike I have to read the files that came with mTCP, Thanks again, any help with setting this up would be great. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Mike Eriksen thinstation.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:00 PM, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, When I installed freedos, I have a MacBook pro running Mac os x snow leopard, the install got hung up on dhcp configuration. I tried several times where I entered the settings manually edited the configuration file manual and chose the default with no luck. Most everything else got installed, I was able to get to the c drive etc., I went into the lynx directory and tried to start the lynx executable. But it wouldn't start. My computer said no such directory, even though the lynx file is an executable? So I am wondering 1. Is there anyway to configure dhcp? Either by reinstalling or setting it up now? 2. If I can't configure dhcp, why did my computer say no such directory when I tried to launch lynx? Like is dos installed properly? Any help would be appreciated. Did you install a TCP stack in the first place? That doesn't come natively. If not this one is a (good) possibility: http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/ Mike -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp
James, I'm not well versed on lynx - it is built on top of the WATTCP library. Try a simpler application like PING or FTP which also uses the WATTCP library before you move onto lynx - at least you will know you have the basic configuration settings correct. Somebody else already pointed out mTCP - http://www.brutman.com/mTCP . That has the basic apps in it, but it does not have a web browser. The support is very good though. :-) Mike -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp
Hello, I am wondering how to get a file I downloaded into freedos? Is there away in freedos to copy a folder into freedos? What I was going to do was edit the mTCP configuration file put it on my c:\ drive and then run dhcp? But I don't know how to get the folder into my freedos c drive? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Mike Eriksen thinstation.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:34 PM, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for the reply and link, I downloaded mTCP, So I guess I have to install this, some how and then I can reinstall freedos and dhcp should configure? Install it on top of FreeDOS - first FD then mTCP. I only used it once last summer so I'm not experienced, but at that time it was trivial. Just read the docs. Mike I have to read the files that came with mTCP, Thanks again, any help with setting this up would be great. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Mike Eriksen thinstation.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:00 PM, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, When I installed freedos, I have a MacBook pro running Mac os x snow leopard, the install got hung up on dhcp configuration. I tried several times where I entered the settings manually edited the configuration file manual and chose the default with no luck. Most everything else got installed, I was able to get to the c drive etc., I went into the lynx directory and tried to start the lynx executable. But it wouldn't start. My computer said no such directory, even though the lynx file is an executable? So I am wondering 1. Is there anyway to configure dhcp? Either by reinstalling or setting it up now? 2. If I can't configure dhcp, why did my computer say no such directory when I tried to launch lynx? Like is dos installed properly? Any help would be appreciated. Did you install a TCP stack in the first place? That doesn't come natively. If not this one is a (good) possibility: http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/ Mike -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp
Hi, On 1/12/11, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote: I am wondering how to get a file I downloaded into freedos? Is there away in freedos to copy a folder into freedos? What I was going to do was edit the mTCP configuration file put it on my c:\ drive and then run dhcp? But I don't know how to get the folder into my freedos c drive? From where? ren c:\old c:\new should work. Or across different drives you probably have to do move d:\old c:\new. Or just xcopy /s d:\old c:\new (doesn't delete d:\old\*.*). Beware the move doesn't delete +r bug. (A decent file manager like Doszip or NDN helps a lot here.) Nobody mentioned it yet, but I think the real problem is that the FD 1.0 .ISO had broken network detection. Or at least that's what I heard. I don't understand networking at all, and most of my hardware seems to always lack drivers, so I never bothered trying in FreeDOS (and have troubles even with more popular OSes, yuck). -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp
When I installed lynx, I had to change some of the directories in the batch files. Check if the wattcp.cfg directory is correct in %dosdir%\lynx\lynxbat.bat. You should run %dosdir%\bin\lynx.bat because the batch file sets some environment variables lynx needs to run. However, you could set them from the command line, but it is easier to use the batch file. Hope this helps. ---Original Message- From: James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com To: freedos-user freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 10:02 am Subject: [Freedos-user] Dhcp Hello, When I installed freedos, I have a MacBook pro running Mac os x snow leopard, the install got hung up on dhcp configuration. I tried several times where I entered the settings manually edited the configuration file manual and chose the default with no luck. Most everything else got installed, I was able to get to the c drive etc., I went into the lynx directory and tried to start the lynx executable. But it wouldn't start. My computer said no such directory, even though the lynx file is an executable? So I am wondering 1. Is there anyway to configure dhcp? Either by reinstalling or setting it up now? 2. If I can't configure dhcp, why did my computer say no such directory when I tried to launch lynx? Like is dos installed properly? Any help would be appreciated. Sent from my iPhone - - Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp
The part of the email that goes from where? I don't have in my email. I have a folder on my desktop on my MacBook pro that I want to copy into freedos. I copied the folder to an external USB floppy on my laptop. But freedos isn't recognizing it. I was thinking that this might be a virtualbox issue rather than freedos. I am going to try and figure out how I can get freedos to recognize my floppy drive. Is there a way to have freedos recognize files on my hard drive? Like can I copy files from my macs hard drive into freedos? The part of the email c:\old etc. I dont understand? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On 1/12/11, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote: I am wondering how to get a file I downloaded into freedos? Is there away in freedos to copy a folder into freedos? What I was going to do was edit the mTCP configuration file put it on my c:\ drive and then run dhcp? But I don't know how to get the folder into my freedos c drive? From where? ren c:\old c:\new should work. Or across different drives you probably have to do move d:\old c:\new. Or just xcopy /s d:\old c:\new (doesn't delete d:\old\*.*). Beware the move doesn't delete +r bug. (A decent file manager like Doszip or NDN helps a lot here.) Nobody mentioned it yet, but I think the real problem is that the FD 1.0 .ISO had broken network detection. Or at least that's what I heard. I don't understand networking at all, and most of my hardware seems to always lack drivers, so I never bothered trying in FreeDOS (and have troubles even with more popular OSes, yuck). -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp
This may be a more basic question, but what format is the file in? Is it something that can be read across platforms, say audio? The file structures can differ from operating systems. the old / new reference is I think? to copy the old file name into the new one, although I may not be correct here. Karen On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, James Collins wrote: The part of the email that goes from where? I don't have in my email. I have a folder on my desktop on my MacBook pro that I want to copy into freedos. I copied the folder to an external USB floppy on my laptop. But freedos isn't recognizing it. I was thinking that this might be a virtualbox issue rather than freedos. I am going to try and figure out how I can get freedos to recognize my floppy drive. Is there a way to have freedos recognize files on my hard drive? Like can I copy files from my macs hard drive into freedos? The part of the email c:\old etc. I dont understand? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On 1/12/11, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote: I am wondering how to get a file I downloaded into freedos? Is there away in freedos to copy a folder into freedos? What I was going to do was edit the mTCP configuration file put it on my c:\ drive and then run dhcp? But I don't know how to get the folder into my freedos c drive? From where? ren c:\old c:\new should work. Or across different drives you probably have to do move d:\old c:\new. Or just xcopy /s d:\old c:\new (doesn't delete d:\old\*.*). Beware the move doesn't delete +r bug. (A decent file manager like Doszip or NDN helps a lot here.) Nobody mentioned it yet, but I think the real problem is that the FD 1.0 .ISO had broken network detection. Or at least that's what I heard. I don't understand networking at all, and most of my hardware seems to always lack drivers, so I never bothered trying in FreeDOS (and have troubles even with more popular OSes, yuck). -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 412, Issue 1, FDISK problem
Message: 1 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:34:06 -0200 From: Alain Mouette ala...@pobox.com Subject: [Freedos-user] FDISSK bug? To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: 4d2b6d3e.7040...@pobox.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi all, A user reported to me that for some HardDisks FreeDOS's FDISK is not able to set the ACTIVE bit for the boot partition... Has anyone encountered this problem? is there a fix? I am using fdisk131.zip (fdisk.exe is 39153 bytes) Thanks for any info, Alain - When I first was installing FreeDos, and also setting up my partitions, I never could get good results with fdisk, anything formatted with, or partitios set up witf fdisk, would not boot, but I never understood whay, I thought it was cause I did not know much about what I was doing, but I had been folowing instructions very careful, I finally ended up useing the SPFDISK, and Partition Magic, to do what I wanted to do,..Although I never pinpointed the problem wiith fdisk, what yu are saying makes me think, that may have been the problem. I would be willing to run some tests, but unfortunately, since this computer is working fine like I have it, and I don't have another that I could use,..I've got to much work in this one, to risk experimenting anymore. However I am very interested in hearing what more devlopes on this. If you want I can give more detailed info, as to version,etc,..later...at the moment this is my lunch break and I do not have the details at hand,... I had liked what fdisk appeared to be able to do, it seemed simple enough to use, etc. But as I said since I never could get anything to boot after useng it I gave up, it never occurred to me it may be a bug. I will look for the next user lists letter or feel free to e-mail me, if there is anything I can do to help. Guess thats about it, from Garry http://weeklyqbasicandqb64lesson.smfforfree.com A forum for learning QB64,Qbasic and more. visit my webb page:http://garryspages.webs.com My New page,my gallery http://www.GarrysPaintings.webs.com http://stone-carver.org Is a new forum, related to stone carveing. Garrison Ricketson -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp
Hi, On 1/12/11, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote: The part of the email that goes from where? I don't have in my email. I have a folder on my desktop on my MacBook pro that I want to copy into freedos. I copied the folder to an external USB floppy on my laptop. But freedos isn't recognizing it. FreeDOS doesn't directly support USB, even at the best of times. You need a separate driver, e.g. http://www.bretjohnson.us ... but I'm not sure that'll work for your Mac. Aren't Macs (even x86 ones) lacking a BIOS? EFI or whatnot, but it can fake it for Windows (BootCamp)? I was thinking that this might be a virtualbox issue rather than freedos. The only way to share files in VirtualBox from host to DOS is (I think) MS SHARE networking. Even if I knew what license that was (I don't) or where to get it, I wouldn't know how to use it anyways, and it sounds ungodly difficult (for me). So I never use that (sorry!). I am going to try and figure out how I can get freedos to recognize my floppy drive. It recognizes normal PC floppy drives, even USB ones, but your Mac is probably too different (without some kind of BIOS, hopefully BootCamp provides one, I dunno). Is there a way to have freedos recognize files on my hard drive? Like can I copy files from my macs hard drive into freedos? FreeDOS only reads and understands FAT12/16/32, which your Mac almost certainly doesn't use by default (HFS?). Maybe you could install mtools. The part of the email c:\old etc. I dont understand? Sorry, I missed the obvious problem that you're using a Mac. Traditionally Macs have been ten thousand percent incompatible with normal PCs (Wintel), but even now running x86, there's almost no chance. I say almost because maybe?? someone somewhere figured out a way. And BootCamp does run Windows, so there's a glimmer of hope, but not much. Sorry if this isn't much help. I just want you to be aware that you may be barking up the wrong tree. :-/ You might be stuck to emulation (VirtualBox, QEMU, DOSBox) only, which is sad (and slow) when the underlying processor is the same. Linux has some Mac support (surprisingly), perhaps you can run that + DOSEMU. I dunno, this is all horrible advice, sorry, just grasping at straws. -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp
hi! Thanks for this as it answers the usb question I posed a while back. Karen On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Rugxulo wrote: Hi, On 1/12/11, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote: The part of the email that goes from where? I don't have in my email. I have a folder on my desktop on my MacBook pro that I want to copy into freedos. I copied the folder to an external USB floppy on my laptop. But freedos isn't recognizing it. FreeDOS doesn't directly support USB, even at the best of times. You need a separate driver, e.g. http://www.bretjohnson.us ... but I'm not sure that'll work for your Mac. Aren't Macs (even x86 ones) lacking a BIOS? EFI or whatnot, but it can fake it for Windows (BootCamp)? I was thinking that this might be a virtualbox issue rather than freedos. The only way to share files in VirtualBox from host to DOS is (I think) MS SHARE networking. Even if I knew what license that was (I don't) or where to get it, I wouldn't know how to use it anyways, and it sounds ungodly difficult (for me). So I never use that (sorry!). I am going to try and figure out how I can get freedos to recognize my floppy drive. It recognizes normal PC floppy drives, even USB ones, but your Mac is probably too different (without some kind of BIOS, hopefully BootCamp provides one, I dunno). Is there a way to have freedos recognize files on my hard drive? Like can I copy files from my macs hard drive into freedos? FreeDOS only reads and understands FAT12/16/32, which your Mac almost certainly doesn't use by default (HFS?). Maybe you could install mtools. The part of the email c:\old etc. I dont understand? Sorry, I missed the obvious problem that you're using a Mac. Traditionally Macs have been ten thousand percent incompatible with normal PCs (Wintel), but even now running x86, there's almost no chance. I say almost because maybe?? someone somewhere figured out a way. And BootCamp does run Windows, so there's a glimmer of hope, but not much. Sorry if this isn't much help. I just want you to be aware that you may be barking up the wrong tree. :-/ You might be stuck to emulation (VirtualBox, QEMU, DOSBox) only, which is sad (and slow) when the underlying processor is the same. Linux has some Mac support (surprisingly), perhaps you can run that + DOSEMU. I dunno, this is all horrible advice, sorry, just grasping at straws. -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: hi! Thanks for this as it answers the usb question I posed a while back. Karen On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Rugxulo wrote: Hi, On 1/12/11, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote: The part of the email that goes from where? I don't have in my email. I have a folder on my desktop on my MacBook pro that I want to copy into freedos. I copied the folder to an external USB floppy on my laptop. But freedos isn't recognizing it. FreeDOS doesn't directly support USB, even at the best of times. You need a separate driver, e.g. http://www.bretjohnson.us ... but I'm not sure that'll work for your Mac. Well, I got USB working with several USB chip sets except VIA. It was news to me too that James intended to run FD in a VM on an Apple. I think as Rugxulo the project is... challenging :-) -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 14:45 -0600, Rugxulo wrote: Sorry, I missed the obvious problem that you're using a Mac. Traditionally Macs have been ten thousand percent incompatible with normal PCs (Wintel), but even now running x86, there's almost no chance. I say almost because maybe?? someone somewhere figured out a way. And BootCamp does run Windows, so there's a glimmer of hope, but not much. A very clever developer could write a shim to fit between the (U)EFI firmware and FreeDOS. It certainly is quite possible to do that. UEFI allows the loading of images, so you can just boot the shim off the FreeDOS partition, have it set up an emulated BIOS in very high memory, then boot FreeDOS itself. -- Tactical Nuclear Kittens -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]
Hi James, Uli, Rugxulo, happy new year everybody :-) do I understand correctly that you want to copy from MacOS to FreeDOS but both run on the same hardware, DOS running in VirtualBox? As Mac understands FAT, it might help to copy the files to any FAT drive, eg USB stick, USB harddisk or floppy, and then connect that to your VirtualBox (probably configuration thing which needs restarting the DOS)... I have a folder on my desktop on my MacBook pro that I want to copy into freedos. I copied the folder to an external USB floppy on my laptop. But freedos isn't recognizing it. I was thinking that this might be a virtualbox issue rather than freedos. Note that for normal PC BIOSes you often get USB drives recognized by having them connected before DOS boots... In that case, DOS does not need a driver as the BIOS is doing the work. In virtualbox, support might differ and if you try using DOS USB drivers there, virtualbox will have to simulate USB hardware/chipset connected to your actual USB drive, which might complicate things. There was some page by Uli Hansen about the use of various network stuff with DOS, MS network shares via MSCLIENT included as far as I remember. Again, such stuff is harder in a virtual PC than in a real PC. In particular real PCI network cards are easy. Old ISA cards and external USB cards are harder and wireless is even very hard. PCIe should be okay :-) Is there a way to have freedos recognize files on my hard drive? Like can I copy files from my macs hard drive into freedos? If you run DOS in a virtual PC, this will depend on the config and abilities of that virtual PC mostly. Plus a bit on DOS drivers, if you need any at all. In DOSEMU things are usually easy, but that is only available for Linux. Not sure about BSD Unixes such as MacOS in that context. Nobody mentioned it yet, but I think the real problem is that the FD 1.0 .ISO had broken network detection. Or at least that's what I heard. I don't understand networking at all, and most of my hardware seems to always lack drivers, so I never bothered trying in FreeDOS (and have troubles even with more popular OSes, yuck). There are floppy images like NWDSK (veder.com?) which autodetect many network chipsets. I assume you could boot those in a virtual PC as well, even using virtual floppy drives. Or put them on USB stick or CD-R with the help of for example SYSLINUX / ISOLINUX / MEMDISK. Depends a lot on what you want to do whether networking is really what you want to use :-) Eric -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Packages in FreeDOS
Hi Ivan / bla bla, Hello everyone. Yesterday I've just installed FreeDOS 1.0 on my laptop. It has installed not only the base system but dozens of packages. The clue is, once installed, I don't have any idea of what's installed in the system (compressors, compilers, utilities...). And now my question: Is there any place or any list where I can see all the packages a FreeDOS system installs? And, if possible, with a brief description. Yes. Your DOS should have a subdirectory such as C:\fdos\appinfo which contains one LSM file for each installed package. Depending on the installer, you also have C:\fdos\packages\ with lists of the files inside each package. The LSM are text files in regular layout, for example for MORESYS: Begin3 Title: MORESYS Version:22nov2003 Entered-date: 2004-02-22 Description:Lets you view output pagewise without tempfile or waiting by using ... MORE$ after loading the driver Keywords: MORE, device, pager, scrolling, wait for key Author: Eric Auer eric #at# coli.uni-sb.de Maintained-by: Eric Auer eric #at# coli.uni-sb.de Primary-site: http://www.coli.uni-sb.de/~eric/stuff/soft/specials/ Alternate-site: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/system/ Original-size: http://www.coli.uni-sb.de/~eric/stuff/soft/specials/ Platforms: DOS (nasm) Copying-policy: GPL This is also an example that FreeDOS 1.0 is pretty outdated. Other distros such as the Rugxulo Ruffidea (1 to 4 floppies, also available as single 2.88 MB floppy image for CD-R boot) are somewhat newer. You can also download single packages in your non-DOS operating system or use FDUPDATE inside DOS if networking works on your machine... The www.freedos.org page has a big list of LSM files which also helps you to see what changed since FreeDOS 1.0 The link is called software list: http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=moresys As you see in the updated LSM, the VERSION is still the same but the homepage and email changed ;-) So you do not need to update the MORESYS package in this example :-) Regards, Eric -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]
Hi, On 1/12/11, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: As Mac understands FAT, it might help to copy the files to any FAT drive, eg USB stick, USB harddisk or floppy, and then connect that to your VirtualBox (probably configuration thing which needs restarting the DOS)... Not sure, I think directly using USB from inside VirtualBox is experimental (read: probably buggy) and not supported in the OSE version. (Sorry to be such a pessimist.) Note that for normal PC BIOSes you often get USB drives recognized by having them connected before DOS boots... In that case, DOS does not need a driver as the BIOS is doing the work. Forgot about that, yeah it sometimes works (with bugs), but it does also mean you can't hotplug / swap at runtime. In virtualbox, support might differ and if you try using DOS USB drivers there, virtualbox will have to simulate USB hardware/chipset connected to your actual USB drive, which might complicate things. I do know that VirtualBox has some issues with DOS (e.g. no SB support), so normally I don't use DOS there. Not sure if they fixed some of them (EMM386 conflict) though one of the recent ones claims to. Probably unchecking VT-X in the config helps but is slower. There was some page by Uli Hansen about the use of various network stuff with DOS, MS network shares via MSCLIENT included as far as I remember. Right, did I accidentally say MS SHARE? I meant NET SHARE or whatever the syntax is. In DOSEMU things are usually easy, but that is only available for Linux. Not sure about BSD Unixes such as MacOS in that context. *BSD has doscmd but I haven't tried it (yet), probably very buggy and weak as it's quite old and unmaintained. I know they claim DOSBox and VirtualBox both work on BSD. There are even still others (pcxt, pcemu) untested by me. But yeah, DOSEMU is Linux only, but you can (I think?) boot Ubuntu off Macs nowadays. There are floppy images like NWDSK (veder.com?) which autodetect many network chipsets. Call me a skeptic, but things like that almost never work (for me). Others smarter than me seem to have better luck, though (e.g. BTTR crowd). P.S. The obvious question is, What application(s) are you trying to run on FreeDOS? It's easier when we know the goal to make concrete suggestions. -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]
Hello, One of my goals is to set up dhcp, cause I didn't during the install. I would like to fool around with lynx within in freedos. I have some older software like word perfect, some games etc. That I wanted to install. I really want to be able to type a: at a dos prompt and access my floppy drive, right now I can't burn a cd because my cd/DVD drive isn't working, I am going to fix it. I know that I got dosbox to recognize my floppy drive? I want to set up mTCP which I got to set up dhcp, and I have a folder on my Mac but don't know how to get it into freedos? I have also copied it to a floppy, but freedos isn't recognizing my floppy drive? I guess one thing I would like to be able to do is put software into freedos from my Mac. I have used disk utility to partition my hard drive and I set up some fat space. I was originally gonna use it for freedos but then I got virtualbox. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On 1/12/11, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: As Mac understands FAT, it might help to copy the files to any FAT drive, eg USB stick, USB harddisk or floppy, and then connect that to your VirtualBox (probably configuration thing which needs restarting the DOS)... Not sure, I think directly using USB from inside VirtualBox is experimental (read: probably buggy) and not supported in the OSE version. (Sorry to be such a pessimist.) Note that for normal PC BIOSes you often get USB drives recognized by having them connected before DOS boots... In that case, DOS does not need a driver as the BIOS is doing the work. Forgot about that, yeah it sometimes works (with bugs), but it does also mean you can't hotplug / swap at runtime. In virtualbox, support might differ and if you try using DOS USB drivers there, virtualbox will have to simulate USB hardware/chipset connected to your actual USB drive, which might complicate things. I do know that VirtualBox has some issues with DOS (e.g. no SB support), so normally I don't use DOS there. Not sure if they fixed some of them (EMM386 conflict) though one of the recent ones claims to. Probably unchecking VT-X in the config helps but is slower. There was some page by Uli Hansen about the use of various network stuff with DOS, MS network shares via MSCLIENT included as far as I remember. Right, did I accidentally say MS SHARE? I meant NET SHARE or whatever the syntax is. In DOSEMU things are usually easy, but that is only available for Linux. Not sure about BSD Unixes such as MacOS in that context. *BSD has doscmd but I haven't tried it (yet), probably very buggy and weak as it's quite old and unmaintained. I know they claim DOSBox and VirtualBox both work on BSD. There are even still others (pcxt, pcemu) untested by me. But yeah, DOSEMU is Linux only, but you can (I think?) boot Ubuntu off Macs nowadays. There are floppy images like NWDSK (veder.com?) which autodetect many network chipsets. Call me a skeptic, but things like that almost never work (for me). Others smarter than me seem to have better luck, though (e.g. BTTR crowd). P.S. The obvious question is, What application(s) are you trying to run on FreeDOS? It's easier when we know the goal to make concrete suggestions. -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
