[Freedos-user] New release of DOSUTILS

2012-02-14 Thread Willi Wasser
A new release of the DOSUTILS package is available and can be downloaded 
from here http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/

Three of the utilities the package consists of have been improved:

RPN - a program that provides integer math to batch files e.g. for 
numeric loop counters or simple calculations.

SELECT - a program that can serve as a directory browser or to display a 
scroll bar menu with any kind of content.

FORM - a program that displays a freely definable form on the screen, 
accepts the user's input and stores the responses in one or more 
environment variables.

In addition a new member joined the package

FNTOOL - a tool to transform DOS filenames in many ways replacing 
commands like dirname or basename but more powerful than these two ones.

These utilities (together with the other ones in the package) 
effectively increase the set of commands usable in batch procedures 
adding many features one might possibly miss when returning from UNIX 
shell scripting back to DOS batch programming and they might be 
particularly useful when writing installation or set-up procedures.

Therefore especially the maker(s) of the new FreeDOS distribution CD 
might want to esplore the package to see whether some of these utilities 
are useful for that purpose.




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[Freedos-user] batch programming language

2011-09-21 Thread Willi Wasser
Marco Achury marcoach...@gmail.com wrote on Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:29:19 -0430

 A more realistic goal to Freedos may be to expand the batch programming
 language to be compatible with newer windows versions, but keeping retro
 compatible with DOS batch programs.

 Look this nice code that we cant run on Freedos

 http://windowstipoftheday.blogspot.com/2005/03/ms-dos-calculator.html

Who says it can't be done in FreeDos or any other kind of classic DOS as 
opposed to the Dos emulations of modern Windows versions? (even though the 
code might have to be re-written)

Many operations that traditional DOS batch language doesn't provide out of the 
box, can be performed by the help of some additional utilities. One possible 
source for such utilities is the package dosutils.zip which is available 
here: http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/

And if one doesn't insist in infix notation (mathematics using parantheses to 
indicate the  precedence of operations) but is comfortable with reverse poish 
notation (as used by older HP calculators) then one doesn't even need a batch 
file at all, but can use the utility RPN right out of the box.

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[Freedos-user] (various subjects)

2011-08-03 Thread Willi Wasser
Subject: network drivers

On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:58:24 Bernd Blaauw wrote:

 However I'm not sure if complete stacks have
 to be installed before the shims work or not
 (as neither the Novell nor MS stacks are freely distributable)

No. Well, actually i am not so familiar with the MS-stack but as far as 
Novell's ODI stack is involved i know, that the protocol driver (IPXODI and/or 
TCPIP) is not required if you only want to use the shim (e.g. ODIKPT). On the 
other hand, i personally didn't experience too great difficulties in finding 
true packet drivers for ethernet cards. (WLAN cards may be a diferent story)



Subject: date fomat (slightly off topic)

The utility TIMESTMP (i don't want to bother you again with the information 
where to find it :-) allows to freely define (almost) any format for date/time 
output (only 12 hour format with am/pm is not supported). Of course this 
doesn't really help with the output of DIR (therefore: slightly off topic) but 
may be useful in other cases.




Subject: U.S. Medical Costs!! (very much off topic)

On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 01:12:44 Bernd Blaauw wrote:

 you missed a 'good' opportunity to visit Europe :)

Don't be too sure! In Germany, for instance, most people do have a health 
insurance, but if you belong to the few who don't (as you would if you came 
from outside the EU) than things may become difficult and expensive as well.

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Re: [Freedos-user] New release of DOSUTILS package

2011-06-15 Thread Willi Wasser
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:43:00 Eric Auer wrote:

 For those who read mails but do not follow all URLs,
 and to already give some feedback and plug ads for
 similar tools, DOSUTILS contains:

First of all thank you for your feed back. Though i think some additional 
comments could be useful :-)

 ASKECHO - prompt for user input

 Note that FreeCOM command.com has a special SET for this.

That's true, however DOSUTILS can be used with ANY kind of DOS even with such 
less advanced versions like MS-DOS 6.22 which lack this feature :-)

 RPN - perform integer calculations

 If you need floating point: The 1024 byte(!) calc387.com
 will be fun for you. For example Rugxulo's Ruffidea distro
 contains a copy of the tool :-)

True, RPN can't do floating point. And even though it can be used 
interactively, its main purpose is to do (more or less) simple calculations in 
batch procedures, like numeric loop counters, comparison of two numbers and the 
like. And i can hardly imagine that some will seriously attempt to implement a 
fast fourier transform as a batch procedure :-) so the lack of floating point 
may not hurt too much.

 PIPESET - store the output of other programs in environment variables

 In a limited way, yet another exotic SET feature of the
 FreeCOM command.com can help you to do similar things.

Can you pipe into FreeCOM's SET command? And PIPESET can do even more, it can 
cut a specific item out of the data stream (e.g. the size of a specific file 
from the output of the DIR command)

 SELECT - user menu and directory browser

 Dosemu long ago came with a directory browser called LCD
 which is about 15kB and has no features apart from letting
 you go to a dir using the cursor keys when you call it...

I admit i do not know LCD, i had WINDOWS standard file dialoge in mind when 
developing this utility. So if you need a comfortable way to interactively 
specify a file from within a batch procedure then SELECT may become your friend.

 FORM - a very versatile dialogue utility for batch procedures
 FAM - automated text modification

Similar to SED? FAM is _very_ remotely similar to AWK (but it is a single 
command line tool, while AWK is actually a script prcessor which can also be 
used on the command line. In addition AWK is strongly based on regular 
expressions while FAM uses a totally different principle, actually it was a 
spin-off from PIPSET.

FORM is a totally different beast. It is a comfortable user interface for batch 
procedures. It displays a form, whichs layout can be very flexibly configured 
and returns the user's input in one ore more environent variables. One possible 
application could be the user dialogue for a configuration procedure but it is 
not limited to that purpose.

 SCRDUMP - a utility to dump parts of the screen to a file

 With a hotkey as TSR, I assume?

Nope. Again this utility is most useful within batch files (e.g. autoexec.bat). 
Typically it is called twice, once before and a second time right after the 
command whichs output is to be copied to a file

 INVOKE - invoke program and report the error code it returned (test and 
 debugging aid)

 You can use %ERRORLEVEL% in FreeCOM command.com for that,

Right, but again, not all incarnations of DOS properly support %ERRORLEVEL%. 
Furthemore, the latest version allows as a side effect to re-direct stderr, 
which is otherwise not so easily done.

I know, that not everyone is a fan of written documentation, but in this case i 
strongly recommend to read the files DOSUTILS.TXT and FORM.TXT they tell much 
more details than could be mentioned here.

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[Freedos-user] New release of DOSUTILS package

2011-06-12 Thread Willi Wasser
I just want to announce a new release of my DOSUTILS package. Besides some 
minor improvements to already existing utilities it features two aditional 
programs. One of them is a rather versatile forms program intended as user 
interface for batch procedures (e.g. configuration scripts) but it can also be 
used as (pseudo-)graphical front-end for traditional command-line controlled 
DOS commands.  

Please feel free to download and explore the package which can be downloaded 
from here: http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/ and of course i 
would appreciate many feed-backs.
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[Freedos-user] Licensing issues

2011-06-07 Thread Willi Wasser
I really didn't expect to trigger so much controversy with my initial 
questions. And i found it interesting to learn that companies like HP and DELL 
still offer DOS. But if one takes a closer look, it becomes soon clear, that 
DOS for them is more like the compact spare wheel of modern cars than a 
crucial part of the whole system. Even for those manufacturers one finds when 
google-ing for embedded DOS, the systems they still deliver with DOS are the 
lower ends of their product lines with LINUX making up the upper end. All this 
confirms my opinion that nowadays there ist not much money inside DOS 
anymore. This doesn't necessarily degrade DOS as an operating system but it 
should be taken into account whenever talking about licensing issues.

Of course there was this well known Mr. Gates who, once upon a time made a 
fortune with DOS, everyone knows his story, but this is ages ago and can't be 
easily repeated. If one compared programming with making music, then the DOS 
programmer of today is more like the street-musician who plays his guitar near 
the entrance of a subway station than the big star who fills a stadium and 
sells millions of records. And sure, every street-musician dreams of becoming 
famous one day, but again, let's be serious ...
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[Freedos-user] Why I use FreeDOS

2011-06-05 Thread Willi Wasser
 You'd probably be amazed at how many embedded and industrial control systems 
 are based on DOS.

Indeed! If someone pointed me out precize brands and models of systems that 
nowadays still use DOS i would really be amazed. (Are those systems just still 
around, or is there even real active development?) My personal experience is 
different. The last time i professionally came in touch with DOS was in late 
1999. That's more than a decade ago. In the rapidly developing IT busyness this 
is almost an eternity.

Is this phenomenon (if it really exists) perhaps limited to certain busynesses 
or certain parts of the world? It might be interesting to have some kind of 
survey.

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[Freedos-user] Licensing issues

2011-06-02 Thread Willi Wasser
 Some developers may not be too happy
 about the license choice, especially
 those who would like to grab your code
 and try to make money from it by making
 it part of an unfree software.

Let's be serious! Is there still a market for any kind of DOS out there? Does 
it have any commercial value out there? Can you still make such an amount of 
money with it, that it's worth to struggle about licensing issues?

For me it's a hobby. A little bit like those poeple who still operate steam 
railways nowadays. And it may be an attempt to show the world how else 
computers could be and that there is a difference between technical progress 
and the latest fashion. Many of my programs are such that i should have 
written them fifteen years ago but i didn't back then due to various reasons. I 
am really not afraid that someone else could get rich with my software, my 
experience is rather that nobody really cares. So what?

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Re: [Freedos-user] Lynx issues

2011-03-21 Thread Willi Wasser
 I wonder why I can't get Ntool to work? I think It would
 be easier to automate stuff if I got Ntool to work.

Could you be more specific?

Or just re-rerad the various posting refering to that subjects during the last 
days.


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Re: [Freedos-user] ntool help

2011-03-19 Thread Willi Wasser

If NTOOL tells you bootp/dhcp failed it means exactly what it says. But this 
can have two different reasons. Either your packet driver is OK, but no dhcp 
server answered NTOOL's request. In this case there must be a problem with the 
dhcp server.

Or your packet driver did not load properly, possibly because it is 
misconfigured or invoked with incorrect parameters. Watch carefully the 
messages the packet driver issues while loading. Sometimes it helps in 
debugging to load the packet driver manually as it is easier this way to read 
all the messages. Usually the packet driver reports the ehternet address of the 
card it found. Does it look reasonable?

And mTCP's DHCP message failure to get dhcp address. check your cabling and 
packet driver settings means the very same thing.

If you failed to load the packet driver completely, then NTOOL would tell you 
NO PACKET DRIVER FOUND while mTCP's DHCP would write Could not access packet 
driver. 
 

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Re: [Freedos-user] ntool help

2011-03-17 Thread Willi Wasser
 i just tried to run ntool and i got back an ip address of:
 MY_IP=0.0.0.0

NTOOL is a WATTCP application itself, one that is linked to a relatively recent 
version of the WATTCP library that does support dhcp properly. That means, it 
will try to get its ip parameters from dhcp if the WATTCP.CFG file it finds at 
program start tells it to do so by specifying MY_IP=DHCP or if it doesn't 
find a WATTCP.CFG file at all. In this case it will write something like 
Configuring through BOOTP/DHCP to the screen.

If on the other hand it finds a WATTCP.CFG file that defines a static ip 
address, then it will simply accept this setting, assuming that you know what 
you are doing. Nevertheless NTOOL -g   will output the actual ip parameters 
that are in effect in this moment.

So if NTOOL just tells you MY_IP=0.0.0.0 without any message about using 
dhcp, then you probably have a WATTCP.CFG file somwhere which defined that 
address. Probably you just copied that file from somewhere and failed to adjust 
it to your personal needs. Try to find that file and make it invisible to the 
program, by re-naming it or by deleting it completely.

If that helps, you could even try whether you need NTOOL (or any other external 
dhcp client) at all. Perhaps lynx just has the very same problem? If the lynx 
version you use, is also linked to a more recent version of WATTCP, then it 
could do this all by itself. It not, you could still use NTOOL.

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Re: [Freedos-user] ntool help

2011-03-16 Thread Willi Wasser

 hello,
 I want to use ntool to redirect output of dhcp to wattcp.cfg.
 I am confused by the -g command line option. what does str mean?
 does anyone know what I would enter, using ntool to redirect output of dhcp 
 to wattcp.cfh?

The short answer is: NTOOL -gWATTCP.CFG

Use one (or more) space characters enclosed in a pair of quotatation marks for 
str. This would give you something like:

MY_IP=192.168.1.1
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
GATEWAY=192.168.1.254
NAMESERVER=192.76.23.54

which is exactly what you need as a (minimal) WATTCP.CFG file. If you need a 
more sohisticated WATTCP.CFG set-up, you could write a second file (say 
WATTCP0.CFG), that holds all those entries not provided by NTOOL. e.g. like 
this:

TXBUFSIZE=8196
RXBUFSIZE=8196
PRINTER1NAME=LPT1

you would then add some lines like the following ones to your start-up batch 
file:

NTOOL -g WATTCP.CFG
TYPE WATTCP0.CFG  WATTCP.CFG

please observe the double chevrons in the second line, they cause the content 
of the second file to be appended to the first one. Otherwise you would just 
clobber it.

Now, what is the purpose of str at all?

The long answer is: It gives you more flexibility. If it is anything but a 
string that consists only of blanks, then str will be prepended to each line 
of NTOOL's output. If you try e.g.

NTOOL -g SET 

(mind the space between the T and the closing quotation mark) then you would 
get something like this:

SET MY_IP=192.168.1.1
SET NETMASK=255.255.255.0
SET GATEWAY=192.168.1.254
SET NAMESERVER=192.76.23.54

re-directing this into a batch file and then calling that (secondary) batchfile 
from the primary one like this:

NTOOL -g SETSETPARM.BAT
@CALL SETPARM.BAT

will cause environment variables to be set with the respective values. These 
variables can then be further processed (used) in many ways.

Or you try 

NTOOL -g ECHO   IPCONFIG.BAT

which would mimic the IPCONFIG commmand known from other TCP/IP implementations.

The reason for the somewhat confusing character of str is that the routine 
within NTOOL that parses the command line only supports command line switches 
(like -g) that have either allways an argument or never. Optional arguments are 
not supported. Therefore the dummy string is required, even if you actually 
don't want to prepend anything. But i think, this is just an inconvenience, not 
a real problem.

BTW, do you know the meaning of the acronym RTFM?  :-)


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Re: [Freedos-user] How to enable networking in a FreeDOS client?

2011-03-13 Thread Willi Wasser

   cordat...@aol.com wrote:

 An alternative is to use Mike Brutman's mTCP DHCP program.

This is of course true, but there is another alternative . . .

 So to sum up: if your application program uses the right 
 version of WATTCP then you don't need to do anything, 
 run the program and it will tell you if DHCP fails.

This option might not always be available. If you download legacy WATTCP 
applications from just somewhere on the net, you often have no choice, you must 
take them as they are. Many times you don't even know which version of WATTCP 
was linked to them and many of these programs, especially older versions do not 
support dhcp or even worse, their dhcp support is buggy.

So, the above mentioned alternative to Mike Brutman's DHCP program is a program 
named NTOOL which i wrote. Even though it is essentially an incarnation of 
netcat, well known from UNIX/LINUX, i also added a sub-function ( NTOOL -g   
) to inquire a dhcp server and output the results to stdout, because i once 
faced the very same problem. Re-directing this output to a file, could give you 
a (basic) WATTCP.CFG file which every WATTCP program will understand.

NTOOL can be downloaded from here: 
http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/


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[Freedos-user] DHCP

2011-01-14 Thread Willi Wasser
 The mTCP DHCP client is designed for the mTCP applications. You can
 use it and adapt it to do other things, but you will have to write
 some scripts or code to take the output from the DHCP client (a text
 file) and make it usable for whatever app you had in mind.

You might as well consider the package NTOOL available here: 
http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/   It can also be used for 
simple file transfers. See the file NTOOL.TXT inside the archive for details. 

 The other option is the DOS version of the Linux SAMBA smbclient. 
 This works like a command line FTP client / shell, so you type 
 commands to go to the files that you want and to upload and download 
 them, all IN the smbclient shell. 

I once tryed it and it appeared to me rather bloated and it never really worked 
for me. Is there some obvious reason for that? (certain versions known to not 
work correctly or so)

Jürgen
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[Freedos-user] Little Sister

2010-10-26 Thread Willi Wasser
A new version of the network monitoring program LANSTAT (aka little sister) 
is available and can be downloaded from here: 
http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/. It now also provides for 
logging, offers a considerably greater flexibility in the display layout and 
provides many minor improvements in various details.

But not only the program was improved, the documentation file as well. It is 
now actually larger then the program itself, offering to those, who are not 
afraid of reading a more elaborate text, some (hopefully) useful ideas about 
the program's flexibility, the many ways to configure it and the various 
purposes it can be used for.

In addition the DOSUTILS packages (available from the same site) got a new 
member: PRINTF an improved echo utility.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Little Sister

2010-09-11 Thread Willi Wasser
 You are getting closer, but you have still not really explained what it 
 actually does. 
 What does monitor mean? 
 What protocols does it support? 
 What network stacks? 
 What network services? 
 What kind of monitoring? 
 What kind of display? 
 What information is displayed? 
 Does it update continuously? 
 What statistics are gathered? 
 How are they output, to where?

Well, reading (e.g. the documentation) is often helpful :-)

Strictly spoken, LANSTAT doesn't touch the LAN at all. Rather it invokes other 
programs using them as test agents, reads their output, classifies it as 
either good or bad and displays the collected results in a clearly arranged 
tabular manner on the screen. A typical example of such a test agent is the 
program ping and nearly any TCP/IP stack comes with such a utility. But any 
other program, which satifies certain requirements (which in-turn are further 
described in the documentation) can be used as well. The precize syntax for 
calling it and classifying its output is defined in a configuration file making 
LANSTAT very flexible. Therefore it is justified to say that the program can be 
used with virtually any network stack and any network protocol and many 
services.

And yes, the information is updated continuously, no statistics are gathered, 
though i am thinking about adding a logging feature and the information is 
primarily output to the local screen, but optionally a html file can be 
generated, which in-turn can be made (globally) available by some kind of 
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[Freedos-user] Little Sister

2010-09-06 Thread Willi Wasser
Sorry folks, no exciting pictures of my little sister here ;-), i just want to 
direct your attention to my latest project: LANSTAT a LAN STATus monitor. 
Though it cannot compete with projects like Big Brother or Big Sister, my 
Little Sister has got some interesting features too. It runs under (MS-)DOS 
(but can be used under Windows as well), is rather compact in size, yet very 
flexibly configurable. Therefore it can be used with virtually any networking 
software available for DOS and can do even more that just ping a number of 
hosts.

Please feel free to download the package from here: 
http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/ and try it yourself.
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Re: [Freedos-user] networking software

2010-07-18 Thread Willi Wasser
Garrison Ricketson wrote:

... years back, like 15,or 16 years ago, I did connect my laptop, 
 the early, Tandy, ...I dont remember the whole name,...

As Ulrich Hansen already wrote, this might have been the program laplink and 
Norton Commander provided a similar function. Both programs are commercial 
products.

Just for the sake of completeness: As far as i know, there also is a special 
packet driver, named plip, which provides networking functionality via the 
parallel interface. For a simple file transfer this might be overkill, but if 
more networking (or even TCP/IP) capabilities are desired then it might be 
worth considering.
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos users list,Networking software

2010-07-15 Thread Willi Wasser
Ulrich Hansen uhan...@mainz-online.de wrote:

 If someone else would like to help:
 Both laptops have a network card and an appropriate packet driver loaded. 
 The LEDs on the network cards were on, so they found a network.
 wattcp.cfg was configured to the IP adresses 192.168.0.1 (laptop 1) 
 and 192.168.0.2 (laptop 2). But pinging the other laptop didn't work 
 - wattcp ping complained: Cannot resolve host's hardware address. 
 Also the ping programs from mTCP and Datalight sockets didn't work. 
 The crossover cable connection works without a problem if I boot Debian Linux 
 on both of the laptops.

 Does anyone has an idea?


Please note that WATTCP is _NOT_ a permanently loaded TCP/IP stack in the same 
sense as it might be familiar from operating systems like LINUX or WINDOWS. 
It's rather a library that is linked directly into each application using 
WATTCP. As a consequence of this no TCP/IP functionality is available while no 
such program is running. 

Therefore ping cannot work in the set-up you described. Start on one of the 
computers a program that uses the WATTCP library and that doesn't terminate 
immediately. This might be either a server program or a client that waits for 
some user input. Then ping that computer from the other one and you should get 
a response.

In any case you would need a server (e.g. an FTP server) on one computer and a 
corresponding client program on the other one to transfer files. If it's just a 
simple file transfer, then a NETCAT program (which can be used in server _or_ 
client role) will do. Mike Brutman has such a program in his collection and i 
wrote a similar one, which i called NTOOL. It can be downloaded from here: 
http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/. Which one you eventually 
prefer will be a matter of personal taste.
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Re: [Freedos-user] New networking software for DOS

2010-07-10 Thread Willi Wasser
Another source for network-related free software for DOS can be found here: 
http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/

 
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[Freedos-user] updated DOSUTILS (agin)

2010-05-27 Thread Willi Wasser
Oops, i wasn't aware that my e-mail provider will silently send all mail as 
HTML attachment. So i now try it again, hoping that it will be sent as plain 
ascii this time. Here it comes . . .



 Hello everybody,

I just want to announce that a new version of my DOSUTILS package is available. 
It is a collection of utilities which can help in writing batch procedures 
under true MS-DOS (or any other flavour of DOS) and can be downloaded from   
http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/   together with the following 
three other packages:

- ETHTOOL a set of utilities for ethernet network analysis,
- NTOOL an incarnation of netcat, also known as the swiss army knife of 
TCP/IP networking and
- RMENU which is kind of a telnet server for (MS-)DOS.

All these programs may or may not be useful to you, but you will only know that 
for shure, if you try them and see yourself. Needless to say, that i still 
apreciate feed-back.
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[Freedos-user] updated DOSUTILS

2010-05-25 Thread Willi Wasser
Hello everybody,I just want to announce that a new version of my DOSUTILS package is available. It is a collection of utilities which can help in writing batch procedures under true (MS-)DOS and can be downloaded from http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/ together with the following three other packages: - ETHTOOL a set of utilities for ethernet network analysis, - NTOOL an incarnation of netcat, also known as "the swiss army knife" of TCP/IP networking and - RMENU which is "kind of" a telnet server for (MS-)DOS.All these programs may or may not be useful to you, but you will only know that for shure, if you try them and see yourself. Needless to say, that i still apreciate feed-back.NEU: WEB.DE DSL fr 19,99 EUR/mtl. und ohne Mindest-Laufzeit!http://produkte.web.de/go/02/


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[Freedos-user] Software download

2010-03-08 Thread Willi Wasser
Hello everybody,  

i wrote a couple of programs for (any kind of) DOS and Robert Riebisch was so 
kind to host them on his server. Now everybody is invited to explore theese 
programs to see whether some of them might be useful to him (or her). They can 
be found under the following URL: 
http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/  

Of course i would appreciate some feed-back :-)
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[Freedos-user] Software download

2010-03-05 Thread Willi Wasser
Hello everybody,i wrote a couple of programs for (any kind of) DOS and Robert Riebisch was so kind to host them on his server. Now everybody is invited to explore theese programs to see whether some of them might be useful to him (or her). They can be found under the following URL: http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/Of course i would appreciate some feed-back :-)WEB.DE DSL: Internet, Telefon und Entertainment fr nur 19,99 EUR/mtl.!http://produkte.web.de/go/02/


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[Freedos-user] Hello!

2010-01-11 Thread Willi Wasser
Hello everybody. 

I just joined this list some days ago, but up to now didn't receive any 
messages. 
Is there really noboby out there, or have i misconfigured something?

Greetings from Germany.

Wiwa64


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Re: [Freedos-user] Hello!

2010-01-11 Thread Willi Wasser
Yes, eventually i received a Freedos-user Digest and 
i see, that there seems to be still a lot of activity here.

 I've never used FreeDOS before...
 Is it possible to log into a headless FreeDOS box from Linux?
 I'm considering setting up an electronic workbench PC with FreeDOS.

 Interesting :-) DOS is single tasking, so you cannot easily run
 a telnet or ssh server and let that start a login shell such as
 command.com from there. 

Well, some time ago, i wrote kind of a telnet server for (MS-)DOS.
Of course it doesn't turn DOS into a multi-user system, but it can
be used to log into a DOS-box via Telnet. Should someone be 
interested in trying it, just let me know.


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