Re: [Freedos-user] dualboot systems
But I'm fairly sure FreeDOS doesn't support this option. Very wrong :-D You can add FreeDOS into BOOT.INI of Windaube XP (no idea about Vi$ta / 7 / 8) ans you can use METAKERN to boot some other DOS or even Windaube ME (no test with XP). -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] dualboot systems
Felix Miata wrote: As long as some type of boot manager is employed to choose among installed operating systems, both DOS and Linux are totally competent to coexist on one computer system. Hi Felix: The only time I ever got Linux to install on a drive that already had an OS, it only installed when I gave it a primary partition. And that is definitely not my first choice. I have been running Dos, Win and OS/2 together since W95. At first I had DOS and Win95 on primary, FAT16, C: and everything else on logicals. W2K was too big for that so I put it on a logical after whatever versions of OS/2 I had. Even tho modern OS/2 may not need to be under 1024 I still keep them up front. Typically, W4 and eCS each at 800M. And DOS is now the only OS on C:, the only primary. All my desktops have either W2K or WXP on a logical. My laptop has both. And none of my desktops have any LVM. All my HDDs are front panel plug-in and LVM makes it difficult to swap drives; they have to be mounted. With that as a starting point can I put Linux on a logical(s)? Ray -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] dualboot systems
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:15 PM, P. Hightower sgriobhad...@gmail.com wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: Assuming nothing on the machine then install Linux and use grub as your boot loader. Leave an extra partition for FreeDOS later. Once Linux is up and running install FreeDOS on the extra partition and modify the grub config file to give you the additional boot option. I've had good luck with doing the reverse. Setting up a partition for FreeDOS and installing it first and then installing Linux. Both Fedora and Ubuntu, and I imagine most modern distros, will detect FreeDOS on the partition and set up the boot loader accordingly. Yes, it will work, but I was thinking it might be more risky for a new dual-booter. In general I think the only order dependent OS I know of would be Windows as it will tend to just write over the MBR without asking thus corrupting some grub installations. None the less you are correct. As far as I know FreeDOS and Linux in general have no compatiliby problems when it comes to dual booting. -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] dualboot systems
On 2009/12/02 09:59 (GMT-0800) Mark Knecht composed: Yes, it will work, but I was thinking it might be more risky for a new dual-booter. In general I think the only order dependent OS I know of would be Windows as it will tend to just write over the MBR without asking thus corrupting some grub installations. The problem with Windows overwriting Grub is that Grub was ever put in the MBR in the first place. Most of the time it is unnecessary, and serves only to invite Windows to restore a system to a monoboot configuration. It's usually just as rude of a Linux installer to put Grub on the MBR without asking as it is for Windows to overwrite MBR code (it does not recognize) without asking when it is installed/reinstalled. The more astute multibooters don't let the Linux installer put Grub on the MBR in the first place, thus avoiding the possibility for an uninvited monoboot condition to occur. http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Prefered_bootloader_options http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs/grub http://fm.no-ip.com/install-doz-after.html None the less you are correct. As far as I know FreeDOS and Linux in general have no compatiliby problems when it comes to dual booting. Dual booting [1] is booting either of _exactly two_ (which is what dual means) installed operating systems from the same filesystem/partition. Multibooting [1] is booting any of two or more installed operating systems, with each on at least one separate filesystem. As long as some type of boot manager is employed to choose among installed operating systems, both DOS and Linux are totally competent to coexist on one computer system. [1] These definitions are as created by the originator of the progeny of the x86 compatible computers we use today, IBM, more than 20 years ago, when it enabled installation of DOS and OS/2 simultaneously via the user's choice between the two separate methods above listed. -- We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. John Adams, 2nd US President Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** multibooter for 12 years Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] dualboot systems
Assuming nothing on the machine then install Linux and use grub as your boot loader. Leave an extra partition for FreeDOS later. Once Linux is up and running install FreeDOS on the extra partition and modify the grub config file to give you the additional boot option. All of my machines run at least Gentoo, FreeDOS and Windows XP if not more. Granted, if you haven't done it before then it's going to be a bit of a stretch for a newbie, but it's doable. Hope this helps, Mark On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:50 AM, david lowe studm...@hotmail.com wrote: I was checking out a Linux page today I saw an entry about dualboot systems. Of course, I've heard about this on a few other occasions, I'd like to try it. But I'm fairly sure FreeDOS doesn't support this option. I've tried burning the OS to a cdrw, but _vista_ (intentionally lowercased) for some reason insists on setting read-only status On Every Single File on the the cd. What about a flash drive? When I tried running defrag from my FD, I got a message this option was unsupported (in so many words). When I tried it from the CD, (or even from my hard drive), I got a message saying it was an unsupported beta. I thought this version of FreeDOS was the final version? The main reason I've put off upgrading to FreeDOS (or Linux) is because my ISP (Clearwire) does not support any OS other than _vista_. I can't change, because the account isn't in my name. Get gifts for them and cashback for you. Try Bing now. -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] dualboot systems
On 2009/12/01 13:50 (GMT-0500) david lowe composed: I was checking out a Linux page today I saw an entry about dualboot systems. Of course, I've heard about this on a few other occasions, I'd like to try it. But I'm fairly sure FreeDOS doesn't support this option. Very few operating systems are incapable of being multibooted. Most of my 30+ machines are multiboot. http://fm.no-ip.com/partitioningindex.html and http://fm.no-ip.com/install-doz-after.html are designed to help multiboot n00bs. :-) If you look but have a problem with what you find there, let me know so I can try to clarify/improve/etc. -- We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. John Adams, 2nd US President Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] dualboot systems
Hi David, you can dualboot with freedos and vista, but depending on whether your vista is installed on a fat32 or a ntfs drive you will have to use windows or linux tools to setup the dual booting. DOS cannot mess around with ntfs drives... If you burn ISO to CD/DVD, the RW just lets you re-use the CD/DVD. For modifying single files, you have to format the disk as UDF, not as ISO. However, MSCDEX / SHSUCDEX do not support UDF - although I heared about an experimental one. The unsupported beta probably was about defragging fat32. You should defrag fat32 from Windows, that should be a lot faster than from DOS. The strength of DOS is more in fat16. I have no idea in which way Clearwire ISP has problems with non-Vista systems. Probably just a stupid helpdesk which cannot tell you where to click in other systems ;-) Eric -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] dualboot systems
Mark Knecht wrote: Assuming nothing on the machine then install Linux and use grub as your boot loader. Leave an extra partition for FreeDOS later. Once Linux is up and running install FreeDOS on the extra partition and modify the grub config file to give you the additional boot option. I've had good luck with doing the reverse. Setting up a partition for FreeDOS and installing it first and then installing Linux. Both Fedora and Ubuntu, and I imagine most modern distros, will detect FreeDOS on the partition and set up the boot loader accordingly. -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] dualboot systems
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:15 PM, P. Hightower sgriobhad...@gmail.com wrote: Setting up a partition for FreeDOS and installing it first and then installing Linux. Both Fedora and Ubuntu, and I imagine most modern distros, will detect FreeDOS on the partition and set up the boot loader accordingly. Sure, but install Windows first, if that's going to be one of your OSes, IME. Chris -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
