Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro - XFDOS - DOS4WIN64 Qemu environment
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Georg Potthast wrote: > I got my brand new Samsung Tablet about three months ago. I bought a small > USB hub and connected a mouse, flash disk and keyboard to that and could use > them all with my XFDOS distro. I have a generic 7" Android tablet. It doesn't have Bluetooth, so an external keyboard must be USB. A USB->microUSB converter lets me plug in my Logitech portable keyboard and it works fine. Add a hub and I can use keyboard and mouse. Add a powered hub and I can connect my Seagate USB HD, via a freeware third party driver using NTFS3g that lets Android mount and read the NTFS file system. (The Android device must be rooted, but mine is.) The powered hub is required to support the HD - the tablet can't do it unaided. I can run a few old DOS apps on the tablet via an Android port of DOSBox. This is mostly "proof of concept". My need to do it in practice is nil. > But frankly I rather use my desktop PC instead. Under most circumstances, so do I. The Android tablet is primarily an eBook viewer, but in a pinch it can substitute for a laptop in a much smaller and lighter form factor. Lighter is good. Smaller can be a problem, as a lot of what I do really wants a larger screen. The 23" monitor on my desktop is about right. > Georg __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro
Hi, Since you mentioned QEMU on ARM in your more recent email, I figured I'd come back to this to give some minor comments. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Georg Potthast wrote: > > I tried MetaDOS on my Samsung Android Tablet using Qemu based Limbo PC. > Seems to work fine except for network support. [Sorry, network support > does work, you just have to select the right network card emulation. ;-)] > > An external USB keyboard is strongly recommended together with the Hackers > Keyboard driver for Android. > > Georg > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/limbopcemulator/?source=navbar My Android tablet is "too old" (3.2 circa 2011), so I was very skeptical if this would work for me. I did finally force myself to try anyways. It does boot up and run FreeDOS correctly, but for whatever reason, no keyboard input is accepted, no matter which (virtual) keyboard I use. (Yes, I even tested the Hacker's Keyboard.) Maybe it's a bug or incompatibility. Maybe you really need an actual hardware keyboard. Dunno. It's still cool that somebody ported it to Android/ARM, but I obviously can't use it very effectively. (I never bothered to learn how to install or use the NDK, so I'm not much help on fixing and recompiling Limbo myself.) BTW, not that I have (or want) one just yet, but there are quite a few Intel (x86)-based Android tablets these days. I honestly wonder if DOSEMU would work there. (Probably depends on if Bionic libc or whatever supports the right stuff.) -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro - XFDOS - DOS4WIN64 Qemu environment
Hi, On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Georg Potthast wrote: > > So if you made software for DOS you do not want to abandon you could make a > Win8 version with DOS4WIN64. Someone (not me!) has taken it upon themselves to make various emulator images for what they call "QEMU Advent Calendar". http://www.qemu-advent-calendar.org/ At least two images are loosely (Free)DOS-related: Day 13 (Second Reality) and Day 2 (Modern DOS). However, neither of them is what they appear. The former is just an old PC demo, and the latter is just some old freeware games. So it has nothing to do with any of our work, AFAIK. (I mean specifically that they aren't based upon XFDOS or MetaDOS, but yes, the latter claims to have stuff from FD 1.1.) Not that I really know because they (apparently) insist on using QCOW2 images, which I can't seem to get working in these (admittedly old) QEMU .EXEs for Windows I have here. I probably need to begrudgingly "install" the newer builds that Bernd pointed to (or just test on Linux, which is obviously a bigger priority for them). -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro - XFDOS - DOS4WIN64 Qemu environment
DOS4WIN64 is not intended to run on old PCs. I just try to keep packages small to allow for fast downloads and fast program loads. There is a lot of DOS software that will not run on Windows 7 or 8 in 64bit mode. To allow DOS applications to be used on these systems they can be bundled with DOS4WIN64 and started from the disk like any other application on a Windows 7 or 8 system. No need to install DOSBOX or VMWare first. Or to burn a Live CD and boot from that. Just copy the DOS4WIN64 archive files into a directory and start the batch file to run DOS and the DOS application from there. So if you made software for DOS you do not want to abandon you could make a Win8 version with DOS4WIN64. You could also make a version of this package for Linux and OS X thus making the DOS application "cross platform" ;-) Using Linux you can even run your application on Non-Intel processors. I got DOS working on my Android Tablet with ARM processor this way. Plugged in a USB keyboard for that. Georg -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro - XFDOS - DOS4WIN64 Qemu environment
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Bob Schwier wrote: > Some of us are hobbyists trying to make 20th century computers function. If you have the hardware to run a QEMU environment, disk space is unlikely to be a huge concern. If it *is* a concern, you may not be able to run QEMU. > bs __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro - XFDOS - DOS4WIN64 Qemu environment
Some of us are hobbyists trying to make 20th century computers function. bs On Sun, 12/7/14, dmccunney wrote: Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro - XFDOS - DOS4WIN64 Qemu environment To: "Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS." Date: Sunday, December 7, 2014, 2:32 PM On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Georg Potthast wrote: > I will use later versions of Qemu in the next release. However, I would like > to use binaries that use SDL instead of GTK because I think these require > less disk space. Given the size and cost of current drives, how much does anyone actually *care* about the disk space requirements? > Georg __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro - XFDOS - DOS4WIN64 Qemu environment
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Georg Potthast wrote: > I will use later versions of Qemu in the next release. However, I would like > to use binaries that use SDL instead of GTK because I think these require > less disk space. Given the size and cost of current drives, how much does anyone actually *care* about the disk space requirements? > Georg __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro - XFDOS - DOS4WIN64 Qemu environment
I will use later versions of Qemu in the next release. However, I would like to use binaries that use SDL instead of GTK because I think these require less disk space. Qemu is faster than Bochs if you run it on the processor it is currently "emulating". It will then use the real processor to some extend. Qemu supports read-only in some disk configurations. When accessing the FAT32 hard disk on my Windows XP system I could see the file names as 8.3 names using the tilde. Georg -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro - XFDOS - DOS4WIN64 Qemu environment
Georg Potthast schreef op 7-12-2014 om 12:51: > Without my included XFDOS ISO image this package is just about 5 MB in size. > So if you have a DOS application that you want to make available for Windows > 7 or 8 in 64 bit mode you could add this to the MetaDOS image in this > package and allow your users to run it on Windows 7 or 8 without installing > any additional emulation packages. If there is a FAT disk available, this > can be accessed directly from MetaDOS if configured. http://qemu.weilnetz.de/ contains more recent binaries for QEMU for Windows, but the syntax for specifying files and options might be different. If only they had binaries that were 8.3-compliant and allowed read-only environment (no temp files, log files, etc) you could add QEMU/Bochs to CD with FreeDOS. For bochs, specifying an ISO that loads a writeable harddisk image works. Specifying a harddisk image doesn't work as you can't indicate read-only harddisk, only CD and floppy. Thanks for making this available Georg. Bernd -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro (was: Re: How do you transfer files to your FreeDOS machine)
Hi, On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Louis Santillan wrote: > On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Rugxulo wrote: >> >> It seems the VirtualBox download (125 MB .ZIP) comes as a microscopic >> .vbox meta file and the main .vdi is roughly 300 MB. Yet it must be >> some kind of dynamically-sized image as VBox itself seems to indicate >> it's 40 GB. > > It's a dynamic allocated disk image [0]. Along with copy on write > (COW[1]), their two improvement to make disk image management more > efficient. > > [0] https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch05.html#vdidetails > [1] http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/QEMU/Images I'm just now getting around to downloading the QEMU + ReactOS .ZIP (210 MB). It's (old) QEMU 0.13.50 (not much better than I already had) and a 420 MB .VMDK file. I don't know why that specific format (outside of obvious VMware compatibility), probably because of what Readme.txt points to called VDK (circa 2005, whose website seems to be down, doh!), which allegedly lets you modify the image directly. Meh, Wayback seems to imply it's for 32-bit systems only anyways. Hmmm, I might have to do the Linux instructions and convert the image to raw first. Oh well, it doesn't really matter. Well, I just was mostly curious about how they set it up (easy to use, pre-installed, emulator, etc.), but it looks like there isn't much unique here. I'd be almost curious to know what bugs or if host compatibility is better or worse in QEMU vs. VirtualBox, etc. etc. (In case it wasn't obvious, I still think a preloaded image or two for FreeDOS could be interesting.) Hmmm, this has some extra info (probably added well after the [outdated, 2011] Readme.txt was written): https://www.reactos.org/wiki/Transfer_files_from_the_host_OS_to_the_virtual_drive -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro (was: Re: How do you transfer files to your FreeDOS machine)
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Rugxulo wrote: > It seems the VirtualBox download (125 MB .ZIP) comes as a microscopic > .vbox meta file and the main .vdi is roughly 300 MB. Yet it must be > some kind of dynamically-sized image as VBox itself seems to indicate > it's 40 GB. It's a dynamic allocated disk image [0]. Along with copy on write (COW[1]), their two improvement to make disk image management more efficient. [0] https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch05.html#vdidetails [1] http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/QEMU/Images -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro (was: Re: How do you transfer files to your FreeDOS machine)
Hi, On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > It seems that other recent OSes also come as emulator images. > In particular, I'm thinking of ReactOS 0.3.17. So it's obviously not > that unpopular an idea. It certainly makes it easier to test things > out. > > https://reactos.org/node/911 > > BTW, half the reason of mentioning this here is this: "A major new > feature for this [ReactOS] release is the inclusion of NTVDM, which > provides support for a wide range of 16bit applications, a long > requested feature by the community. NTVDM is still undergoing work but > we felt that it was ready enough to provide a sneak peak to the wider > community." It seems the VirtualBox download (125 MB .ZIP) comes as a microscopic .vbox meta file and the main .vdi is roughly 300 MB. Yet it must be some kind of dynamically-sized image as VBox itself seems to indicate it's 40 GB. I hope I didn't get anyone's hopes up too high. Obviously its NTVDM is not quite ready for prime time. A lot of stuff, e.g. 32-bit extended pmode (DJGPP), doesn't work at all. In fact, only very very simple stuff works (e.g. PSR Invaders), and it's still very buggy. Presumably this will improve in later releases. Overall, ReactOS itself is fairly good but not totally stable, it will still crash or hang on some parts. It's still considered "alpha", but the Win32 API support seems much better than I expected. That part is fairly reliable, at least for some reasonably complicated programs (see Add/Remove Programs in Control Panel). I don't expect 100% (or even 50%) compatibility for all Windows tech, but it's quite impressive that they've accomplished this much. However, once again, it's clearly not really ready to be a full-time Windows replacement, so don't get your hopes up so high that you mistakenly erase all your old Windows installs just yet! BTW, in case it isn't totally obvious, you can download files via their "WINE Gecko"-based Internet Explorer (under Program Files) or Add/Remove a few things from Control Panel, e.g. some versions of Firefox, 7-Zip, FBC, Lazarus (FPC), etc. I didn't test all of these, and there are some bugs, but it's impressive that they got this far. Oh, almost forgot, Bochs and DOSBox are there too. So if you're really bored, there's plenty to test. However, this is getting a bit off-topic, esp. for DOS, which isn't a first-class citizen in ReactOS (yet??). I just mention it because I found it vaguely interesting. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro (was: Re: How do you transfer files to your FreeDOS machine)
Hi, Just for comparison On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Rugxulo wrote: > > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/unofficial/metados/ > > Just for comparison, both FreeBSD (qcow, vhd, vmdk) and Haiku (vmdk) > have virtual hard disk images readily available for download. I'm not > saying FreeDOS proper must absolutely host such a similar thing, but > it's a cool idea. I think having a proper installation (though not > necessarily "BASE" only) inside a public .VMDK file might be nice. Thanks to reading OS News, it seems that other recent OSes also come as emulator images or even bundle QEMU. In particular, I'm thinking of (untested by me) IcAROS 2.0 and ReactOS 0.3.17. So it's obviously not that unpopular an idea. It certainly makes it easier to test things out. 1). http://vmwaros.blogspot.it/2014/10/trick-or-treat-icaros-desktop-20-is-here.html 2). https://reactos.org/node/911 BTW, half the reason of mentioning this here is this: "A major new feature for this [ReactOS] release is the inclusion of NTVDM, which provides support for a wide range of 16bit applications, a long requested feature by the community. NTVDM is still undergoing work but we felt that it was ready enough to provide a sneak peak to the wider community." -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro
Sorry, network support does work, you just have to select the right network card emulation. ;-) Georg - Original Message - From: "Georg Potthast" To: Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro >I tried MetaDOS on my Samsung Android Tablet using Qemu based Limbo PC. >Seems to work fine except for network support. > > An external USB keyboard is strongly recommended together with the Hackers > Keyboard driver for Android. > > Georg > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/limbopcemulator/?source=navbar -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro
I tried MetaDOS on my Samsung Android Tablet using Qemu based Limbo PC. Seems to work fine except for network support. An external USB keyboard is strongly recommended together with the Hackers Keyboard driver for Android. Georg https://sourceforge.net/projects/limbopcemulator/?source=navbar -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro (was: Re: How do you transfer files to your FreeDOS machine)
Hi, On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Christian Imhorst wrote: > > thank you very much for sharing METADOS. To me it looks very interesting > and I like the idea of having a FreeDOS live distro, too. VMDK files > are nice but I am using Qemu mainly. Therfore I was delighted that > METADOS is an IMG file. ;-) I just wanted it as small and simple as possible ... with obvious room for improvements. BTW, my (imaginary) preference for .VMDK is only because it supposedly is supported by more than one emulator. It's easier to support one image overall than a separate incompatible one for each VM. I still like QEMU, of course, just never followed it very closely over the last few years. I haven't done a lot of active use of VMs lately, only for fun (obviously), hence I usually just use VirtualBox. > To complement your METADOS.TXT I use the PCNET driver to emulate the > network card with Qemu 2.1.0: > > qemu[-system-i386] -fda metados.img -boot a -net nic,model=pcnet -net user > > The part inside the parentheses is optional (at least under Debian). I say I haven't followed QEMU, but during the past few months, I did keep downloading the sources. I just never fully built and installed it. I even timed it building everything normally and then again with MAKEFLAGS=-j4 (which is anathema to DOS-minded people like myself), just for fun. But that's as far as I went. Anyways, since you mention it, I just now rebuilt (i386-* only) and tested it on (old Lucid Puppy, 10.04) Linux. It seems to work! :-) > And thanks for VISIT.BAT. It's quite revealing. :-) Well, yes, that's half the point: you can grab for yourself what you want, even if you have to use FTP to get WGET (or Links2) from iBiblio just to get whatever else.:-) There's a lot of good DOS software out there, but a lot of it is hard to find. Honestly, I hate having to link to (potentially unstable) mirrors, but it's better than nothing. -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro (was: Re: How do you transfer files to your FreeDOS machine)
Hi, thank you very much for sharing METADOS. To me it looks very interesting and I like the idea of having a FreeDOS live distro, too. VMDK files are nice but I am using Qemu mainly. Therfore I was delighted that METADOS is an IMG file. ;-) To complement your METADOS.TXT I use the PCNET driver to emulate the network card with Qemu 2.1.0: qemu[-system-i386] -fda metados.img -boot a -net nic,model=pcnet -net user The part inside the parentheses is optional (at least under Debian). And thanks for VISIT.BAT. It's quite revealing. :-) Regards, Christian Am 27.09.2014 um 17:00 schrieb Rugxulo: > Hi again, > > Okay, I finally uploaded this (and nobody complained, so I guess it's > safe to announce). Just to be clear: it exists, it's very small, it > has full sources, it's publicly available. > > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/unofficial/metados/ > > To me, I thought this would be a useful starting point to making other > distributions, whether .img for floppies (albeit unpopular) or .VMDK > (or whatever virtual hard disk images) for various emulators. > > Perhaps there isn't enough interest in making various DOS > distributions with different focuses? Not enough time? Or too hard to > gather sources? No common goals? Or do some of you only care about > retro / native / real hardware? > > For instance, I still haven't really investigated, but I'm fairly > certain that even a slim "BASE" wouldn't fit entirely in 1.44 MB > (without a miracle). Not that two disks would be horrible, but again, > it's probably a lot of work to double-check everything. > > Just for comparison, both FreeBSD (qcow, vhd, vmdk) and Haiku (vmdk) > have virtual hard disk images readily available for download. I'm not > saying FreeDOS proper must absolutely host such a similar thing, but > it's a cool idea. I think having a proper installation (though not > necessarily "BASE" only) inside a public .VMDK file might be nice. > > The problem is what to put on it. Maybe I'm asking a futile question. > Maybe not enough people care. Or maybe Mateusz's FDNPKG .iso is "good > enough"?? I don't expect to solve every usage scenario, but it can't > be impossible to try, can it?? > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Rugxulo wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: >>> How do you transfer files between your main computer and your >>> FreeDOS-powered machine ? >> FYI >> >> Recently I did make an extremely minimal bootable 1.44 MB floppy .img. >> (.ZIP'd it is less than 400 kb.) It has almost nothing on it, by >> design, except just enough to enable simple networking (packet driver >> + mTCP's DHCP + FTP). The point was that you would grab (via network) >> whatever pieces you need. >> >> For lack of a better name, I called it "MetaDOS", thus it's meant to >> build your own floppy (or even indirectly create a hard disk image: >> fdisk, format, sys), esp. for use with certain emulators, tested >> successfully (Win7 64-bit) with VirtualBox 4.3.x and (admittedly old) >> QEMU 0.9.0 and 0.13.0. >> >> Oh, BTW, I made a small VISIT.BAT that will anonymously connect to >> popular FTP (mirror) sites, e.g. simtel, garbo, x2ftp, sac.sk, djgpp, >> ibiblio. Lots of good stuff there. >> >> I don't think a full (FreeDOS) "BASE" will fit on a single floppy. But >> I also don't think it's obvious what most people want or need either. >> We do probably still need a public and reliable floppy .img for >> FreeDOS. (For pete's sake, QEMU still links to ODIN 2005. And Jim Hall >> recently removed all of the "unofficial" floppy images from iBiblio, >> ugh.) > -- > Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer > Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports > Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper > Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
