Re: [FRIAM] Arizona meets the Facebook community

2010-05-09 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Hey, guys. Isnt there already a law in Arizona that requires employers to check the papers of anybody they hire and gives them a website to do it? I understand that that law is not enforced, because, obviously, it would interfere with employers exploitation of illegal aliens. If it were

Re: [FRIAM] Arizona meets the Facebook community

2010-05-09 Thread Russell Gonnering
Nick-Please cite the facts that support your contention re the Arizona law empowering the police to ask for papers if you just happen to "look" Mexican and the source of the heavy weapons flowing to Mexico.The idea that the types of military-grade weapons used comes from smuggling civilian weapons

Re: [FRIAM] Arizona meets the Facebook community

2010-05-09 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Russ, Well, presumably i got those facts from some left wing rant. They both seemed like the kind of facts that would be difficult to fake, so I believed them. I will do my best to back them up. Please hold your mind open for a time while I do that. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus

Re: [FRIAM] Arizona meets the Facebook community

2010-05-09 Thread Russell Gonnering
Nick and Steve- Will be happy to hold my mind open. This issue points out a number of clearly important points. David Logan, a professor of mine at USC in the master's program on management, investigated the importance of rhetoric in forming the dominant culture of an organization. The

Re: [FRIAM] Arizona meets the Facebook community

2010-05-09 Thread Robert Holmes
Russ, Nick, Here is the relevant part of the Arizona Senate Bill 1070http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf : 40 13-1509. Trespassing by illegal aliens; assessment; exception; 41 classification 42 A. IN ADDITION TO ANY VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW, A PERSON IS GUILTY OF 43

[FRIAM] No Wild Ride, Please! WAS: Arizona meets the Facebook community

2010-05-09 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Dear Steve, Thanks for your post. I particularly want to respond to: Amazing we usually manage to avoid polarizing political discussions here... hang on for the wild ride! Happy Mother's day! I think one of the most distressing features of our society these is that even smart people

Re: [FRIAM] Arizona meets the Facebook community

2010-05-09 Thread Robert Holmes
Here's Not the nine o'clock news take on this from the 1980s in the UK: Constable Savage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO8EpfyCG2Yfeature=related -- R On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Robert Holmes rob...@holmesacosta.comwrote: Russ, Nick, Here is the relevant part of the Arizona Senate

Re: [FRIAM] Arizona meets the Facebook community

2010-05-09 Thread Chris Feola
Ariz. gov signs bill revising new immigration law April 28, 2010 Gov. Jan Brewer on Friday signed a follow-on bill approved by Arizona legislators that make revisions to the state's sweeping law against illegal immigration - changes she says should quell concerns that the measure will lead to

Re: [FRIAM] For the hands-on amongst us, a very cool+useful new material

2010-05-09 Thread sarbajit roy
Seems to be an over-hyped silicone 1-component variant of something we've been using for years - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7tl0--7g (I use http://google.co.in .. so this is what it threw up when I searched for magic putty http://shoesoles.co.in) On second thoughts its probably 2 component

Re: [FRIAM] The coat hook of the mind

2010-05-09 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Nicholas Thompson wrote circa 05/07/2010 05:14 PM: I think one of the implications of the The Rant I recently posted is that metaphors can be made unfuzzy, precise, and exact if we are willing to take the time to separate out their implications into those that we already know to be false,

Re: [FRIAM] The coat hook of the mind

2010-05-09 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Glen: Ok. Let's work with this: You wrote: That's perfectly reasonable. But if it's only the implications of the metaphor that can be made precise, then the metaphor itself, regardless of how important it was in the formation of the result, is NOT what is precise. The result of the

Re: [FRIAM] For the hands-on amongst us, a very cool+useful new material

2010-05-09 Thread Saul Caganoff
Whatever it is, the marketing looks very slick1) target early adopters (hackers), 2) liberal use of social networking tools (twitter, blogs, youtube), 3) create scarcity (first batch all sold out...register to be notified). If they are half the materials geniuses that they are marketing

Re: [FRIAM] For the hands-on amongst us, a very cool+useful new material

2010-05-09 Thread Victoria Hughes
Yup. Useful lessons. Tory On May 9, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Saul Caganoff wrote: Whatever it is, the marketing looks very slick1) target early adopters (hackers), 2) liberal use of social networking tools (twitter, blogs, youtube), 3) create scarcity (first batch all sold out...register

Re: [FRIAM] The coat hook of the mind

2010-05-09 Thread ERIC P. CHARLES
Glen, Nick had a student who harped on him mercilessly for this metaphor stuff. As I recall the argument was pretty sophisticated, but basically boiled down to something like: Look here, old man. I don't know why you keep ranting about 'implicature.' I want to talk about the metaphor, just the