Re: [fricas-devel] Questions on FriCAS make

2021-03-19 Thread Waldek Hebisch
On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 12:37:47AM +0100, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > Concerning "low profile developers", > > I expect most of FriCAS developement to be done independently > > of "make". > :-( > > Why do you expect that? Because that is your development style or > because the build system is not

Re: [fricas-devel] Questions on FriCAS make

2021-03-19 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
> Concerning "low profile developers", > I expect most of FriCAS developement to be done independently > of "make". :-( Why do you expect that? Because that is your development style or because the build system is not smart enough to only compile the stuff quickly that a developer changed?

Re: [fricas-devel] Questions on FriCAS make

2021-03-19 Thread Waldek Hebisch
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 07:31:51PM +0100, riccardo.gu...@gmail.com wrote: > > 8) Are there any other important ``make`` targets that could be useful to a > user / low profile developer workflow? All "make" targets that I expect user to use are in INSTALL file: make make

Re: [fricas-devel] Re: Questions on FriCAS make

2021-03-19 Thread Waldek Hebisch
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 08:26:32PM +0100, riccardo.gu...@gmail.com wrote: > PS Question 2 without some misprints (sorry!): > > 2) Questions on safe cleaning before a rebuild. > > Suppose that at time t0 I execute: > > cd $BuildDir && configure --prefix=$InstallDir "${SysOptions[@]}" && make &&

Re: [fricas-devel] X11 and graphics

2021-03-19 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Thank you Bil for this feedback. > HyperDoc: almost every time I use FriCAS. I do often wish > that the HyperDoc interface looked more up to date. On the > other hand I do not much like to have to work online with > http://fricas.github.io Maybe I would use it more if it was > bundled into the

Re: [fricas-devel] X11 and graphics

2021-03-19 Thread Bill Page
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 5:07 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > Actually, I would be interested in a poll that asks how many of > our users ever use the graphics facilities of FriCAS. A similar > poll for the use of HyperDoc would also be fine. > Someone here on the list who would answer these

[fricas-devel] X11 and graphics

2021-03-19 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
On 19.03.21 19:20, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > We need some graphic environment. Yes and all you say about stability of X11 might be true, but you must admit that with the graphics system of FriCAS you cannot really impress somebody. If you think otherwise than produce some nice examples that we can

[fricas-devel] Re: Questions on FriCAS make

2021-03-19 Thread riccardo.gu...@gmail.com
PS Question 2 without some misprints (sorry!): 2) Questions on safe cleaning before a rebuild. Suppose that at time t0 I execute: cd $BuildDir && configure --prefix=$InstallDir "${SysOptions[@]}" && make && sudo make install. Then at time t1 > t0 I want to rebuild (maybe the sources changed,

[fricas-devel] Understanding series expansion performance

2021-03-19 Thread 'Tobias Neumann' via FriCAS - computer algebra system
I am currently trying to see if I can accelerate my code around series expansions. I really like that series are lazy in FriCAS, but I wonder what impact multiple iterated operations on the series (or the underlying stream), like integration etc. have. I would assume that up to memory

[fricas-devel] Questions on FriCAS make

2021-03-19 Thread riccardo.gu...@gmail.com
Dear all I have some simple (and non-urgent) questions on the use of toplevel make. Thanks in advance for your time and sorry if the questions may look trivial to you. In the following I fix: InstallDir=/path/to/install_dir BuildDir=/path/to/build_dir SysOptions= a bash array containing

Re: [fricas-devel] Re: changes to allow macOS packaging work again

2021-03-19 Thread Waldek Hebisch
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 06:08:28PM +0100, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > It still makes some sense to offer version without X11 > > support, but we should make lack of X11 support clear > > in documentaion and probably point to alternatives supporting > > X11. > > I don't think that X11 will disappear

Re: [fricas-devel] Re: changes to allow macOS packaging work again

2021-03-19 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
> It still makes some sense to offer version without X11 > support, but we should make lack of X11 support clear > in documentaion and probably point to alternatives supporting > X11. I don't think that X11 will disappear too quickly, but still, we should be prepared. Windows has no X, MacOS has

Re: [fricas-devel] Re: changes to allow macOS packaging work again

2021-03-19 Thread Waldek Hebisch
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 11:25:12PM +0800, Qian Yun wrote: > At this stage I do not want to add support for X11/HyperDoc on macOS. > Not yet, maybe later, if a user puts such request. > > Can you agree with this? Maybe I am wrong, but my impression was: - FriCAS builds from sources on Mac OSX

[fricas-devel] Re: irc.freenode.net

2021-03-19 Thread Tobias Neumann
> > There is a #fricas room at irc.freenode.net. > Does someone know who the channel op is? > /msg chanserv info #fricas [ChanServ] Information on #fricas: [ChanServ] Founder: freenode-placeholder-account [ChanServ] Registered : Nov 18 21:15:09 2012 (8y 17w 3d ago) [ChanServ] Last used :

Re: [fricas-devel] Re: changes to allow macOS packaging work again

2021-03-19 Thread Dima Pasechnik
wow, https://www.xquartz.org/ just had a (pre)release, first in 5 years. I thought it is just gone. On Fri, 19 Mar 2021, 14:37 Waldek Hebisch, wrote: > On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 02:22:10PM +, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 2:21 PM Waldek Hebisch > wrote: > > > > > >

Re: [fricas-devel] Re: changes to allow macOS packaging work again

2021-03-19 Thread Waldek Hebisch
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 02:22:10PM +, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 2:21 PM Waldek Hebisch > wrote: > > > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 07:12:58PM +0800, Qian Yun wrote: > > > This is all the changes I need in order to get a working > > > macOS dmg package. > > > > Just asking:

Re: [fricas-devel] Re: changes to allow macOS packaging work again

2021-03-19 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 2:21 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 07:12:58PM +0800, Qian Yun wrote: > > This is all the changes I need in order to get a working > > macOS dmg package. > > Just asking: apparently you replace "xterm" by "Terminal.app", > what is the reason? macOS

Re: [fricas-devel] Re: changes to allow macOS packaging work again

2021-03-19 Thread Waldek Hebisch
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 07:12:58PM +0800, Qian Yun wrote: > This is all the changes I need in order to get a working > macOS dmg package. Just asking: apparently you replace "xterm" by "Terminal.app", what is the reason? -- Waldek Hebisch -- You received this

Re: [fricas-devel] A radical idea for a (future) FriCAS GUI

2021-03-19 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 11:02 AM Qian Yun wrote: > > Recently there is news about the release of Flutter 2.0, and Ubuntu > using it to build the future Ubuntu installer. > > I'm a little interested in it and take a deeper look. > > Short introduction, "Flutter is Google’s UI toolkit for building

[fricas-devel] Re: changes to allow macOS packaging work again

2021-03-19 Thread Qian Yun
This is all the changes I need in order to get a working macOS dmg package. See attachment or https://github.com/oldk1331/fricas/commit/71c511531475a1c754b555362bc14a4299ccba0c.patch Binary at https://github.com/oldk1331/fricas/actions/runs/667643819 Comments are welcome. - Qian On 3/18/21

[fricas-devel] A radical idea for a (future) FriCAS GUI

2021-03-19 Thread Qian Yun
Recently there is news about the release of Flutter 2.0, and Ubuntu using it to build the future Ubuntu installer. I'm a little interested in it and take a deeper look. Short introduction, "Flutter is Google’s UI toolkit for building beautiful, natively compiled applications for mobile, web,

[fricas-devel] irc.freenode.net

2021-03-19 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
There is a #fricas room at irc.freenode.net. Does someone know who the channel op is? Ralf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "FriCAS - computer algebra system" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to