Re: FVWM: fvwm for Debian
to sources.list. Note that these aren't all that up-to-date; I think the version there is still 2.5.6. Nevertheless interesting ;-) I guess the maintainer decided to put it in a separate apt-repository instead of in the main unstable repository. thanks, Remko -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: fvwm for Debian
debian unstable is called unstable because it's not stable yet, not because it includes unstable (development) versions of apps. Generally debian unstable includes latest stable versions of apps (or at least that's the goal, as far as I can say). That's correct. Although that doesn't prevent them from adding the development version as well, but under a different name (such as they do with a lot of packages). And i too am longing for the FVWM development versions in Debian unstable, because FVWM is about the only package i still have to install from source. cheers, Remko -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: fvwm for Debian
%% Remko Troncon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: debian unstable is called unstable because it's not stable yet, not because it includes unstable (development) versions of apps. Generally debian unstable includes latest stable versions of apps (or at least that's the goal, as far as I can say). rt That's correct. Although that doesn't prevent them from adding the rt development version as well, but under a different name (such as rt they do with a lot of packages). And i too am longing for the FVWM rt development versions in Debian unstable, because FVWM is about the rt only package i still have to install from source. Ever tried http://www.apt-get.org ?? Try adding: deb http://people.debian.org/~sacha/debian stable main deb http://people.debian.org/~sacha/debian unstable main deb-src http://people.debian.org/~sacha/debian unstable main to sources.list. Note that these aren't all that up-to-date; I think the version there is still 2.5.6. -- --- Paul D. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] HASMAT--HA Software Mthds Tools Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional. --Mad Scientist --- These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: fvwm for Debian
Remko Troncon wrote: debian unstable is called unstable because it's not stable yet, not because it includes unstable (development) versions of apps. Generally debian unstable includes latest stable versions of apps (or at least that's the goal, as far as I can say). That's correct. Although that doesn't prevent them from adding the development version as well, but under a different name (such as they do with a lot of packages). And i too am longing for the FVWM development versions in Debian unstable, because FVWM is about the only package i still have to install from source. that's true. did you try to ask maintainer? erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FVWM: fvwm for Debian
Hi everyone Possibly this is the wrong forum for this question, but I'll risk asking it here first. Is there any reason why Debian unstable only provides fvwm 2.4.16, and not fvwm 2.5.7? Thanks -- Stuart Logie Programmer UNIVERSAL COMPUTER SERVICES (PTY) LTD Tel : (011) 712 1371 Cell : 082 902 5632 Fax : (011) 339 3421 Internet : http://ucs.co.za Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am the Unconquerable Spirit. -- Poet Unknown Powered by Debian GNU/Linux - testing/unstable -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: fvwm for Debian
* Sep 04 17:36 stu [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi everyone Hi, there! Possibly this is the wrong forum for this question, but I'll risk asking it here first. Is there any reason why Debian unstable only provides fvwm 2.4.16, and not fvwm 2.5.7? My guess is a lazy/inactive package maintainer. Mail and ask him: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ apt-cache show fvwm | grep '^Maintainer:' Maintainer: Alexander Kotelnikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Johan Svedberg, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://johan.svedberg.pp.se/ -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: fvwm for Debian
On 04 Sep 2003 19:36:44 +0200, stu wrote: Possibly this is the wrong forum for this question, but I'll risk asking it here first. Is there any reason why Debian unstable only provides fvwm 2.4.16, and not fvwm 2.5.7? Meantime, you may try these deb snapshots from a month ago, newer than 2.5.7: http://fvwm-themes.sf.net/tmp/snapshots/ I think the next version 2.5.8 will be released as source, rpm (as usual) and deb packages. Note however that these src, rpm and deb packages are clean without any distribution specific configs like old Debian hooks. Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: fvwm for Debian
stu wrote: Hi everyone Possibly this is the wrong forum for this question, but I'll risk asking it here first. Is there any reason why Debian unstable only provides fvwm 2.4.16, and not fvwm 2.5.7? debian unstable is called unstable because it's not stable yet, not because it includes unstable (development) versions of apps. Generally debian unstable includes latest stable versions of apps (or at least that's the goal, as far as I can say). erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FVWM: fvwm for debian
Am 17:25 2003-06-03 +0200 hat Fernando Poza geschrieben: What sounds weird to me, is that having available a debian package for fvwm 2.4.6-2, which means that somebody has already made the effort, the work has been stoped. So, it looks like fvwm package has become orphaned, or whatever way they call this situation in debian. So, before thinking seriously in packagin fvwm, I'll ask debian guys. Thanks for your answer. Fernando Not right, because there are only security updates in Debian and not new Versions... So there is nothing orphaned... Michelle -- Registered Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. +--+ | Michelle's Internet-ServiceInh. Michelle Konzack| | FunkLAN-Providerin | +--+ -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: fvwm for debian
Hello Fernando, Am 15:27 2003-06-03 +0200 hat Fernando Poza geschrieben: Hi there! I'm new in the list, but not in fvwm. I'm running debian in my box, and I wanted to update to the last stable fvwm version. But the thing is that it seems there is no debian package with fvwm.(fvwm*.deb) in fvwm.org. Am I right?, or I'm just not looked for correctly. Then, where can I find it?. Otherwise, I'm thinking in packagin it for debian. Let's see. Regards Fernando Corently I am a little bit blocked in Strasbourg, because my Workstation is gone for some days but Curently I am packuing up 2.5.6 which will availlable on my new website at free.fr. apt-get compatibel ;-)) But curently I must wait until I get the Money from my insurance to Buy a new Computer. Note: I am using fvwm2 since 1999 with Debian/SLINK and a Backport for HAMM. fvwm2 is great !!! Michelle -- Registered Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. +--+ | Michelle's Internet-ServiceInh. Michelle Konzack| | FunkLAN-Providerin | +--+ -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: fvwm for debian
* Jun 11 18:10 Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] Not right, because there are only security updates in Debian and not new Versions... Not quite true either. That depends on if you are using stable (woody), testing (sarge) or unstable (sid). -- Johan Svedberg, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.acc.umu.se/~winkle -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FVWM: fvwm for debian
Hi there! I'm new in the list, but not in fvwm. I'm running debian in my box, and I wanted to update to the last stable fvwm version. But the thing is that it seems there is no debian package with fvwm.(fvwm*.deb) in fvwm.org. Am I right?, or I'm just not looked for correctly. Then, where can I find it?. Otherwise, I'm thinking in packagin it for debian. Let's see. Regards Fernando -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: fvwm for debian
On 03 Jun 2003 15:27:18 +0200, Fernando Poza wrote: I'm new in the list, but not in fvwm. I'm running debian in my box, and I wanted to update to the last stable fvwm version. But the thing is that it seems there is no debian package with fvwm.(fvwm*.deb) in fvwm.org. Am I right?, or I'm just not looked for correctly. Then, where can I find it?. Otherwise, I'm thinking in packagin it for debian. Let's see. I already said this several times in the past. If someone creates a clean procedure make deb-dist release=1 and make deb-this that does exactly what rpm-dist and rpm-this does, it will be included in the fvwm sources. Then everyone, for example yourself could build deb from any tar.gz or cvs automatically in minutes. Of course the procedure should not add any extra files to deb (or as less as possible) not to be different much from installing from the sources. It may also use the same configure options that the rpm procedure does. Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: fvwm for debian
* Jun 03 16:18 Mikhael Goikhman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 03 Jun 2003 15:27:18 +0200, Fernando Poza wrote: I'm new in the list, but not in fvwm. I'm running debian in my box, and I wanted to update to the last stable fvwm version. But the thing is that it seems there is no debian package with fvwm.(fvwm*.deb) in fvwm.org. Am I right?, or I'm just not looked for correctly. Then, where can I find it?. Otherwise, I'm thinking in packagin it for debian. Let's see. I already said this several times in the past. If someone creates a clean procedure make deb-dist release=1 and make deb-this that does exactly what rpm-dist and rpm-this does, it will be included in the fvwm sources. Then everyone, for example yourself could build deb from any tar.gz or cvs automatically in minutes. Of course the procedure should not add any extra files to deb (or as less as possible) not to be different much from installing from the sources. It may also use the same configure options that the rpm procedure does. Maybe this could be taken care of by the current maintainer of the fvwm Debian package? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ apt-cache show fvwm | grep '^Maintainer:' Maintainer: Alexander Kotelnikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Johan Svedberg, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.acc.umu.se/~winkle -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: fvwm for debian
On 03 Jun 2003 16:40:10 +0200, Johan Svedberg wrote: * Jun 03 16:18 Mikhael Goikhman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 03 Jun 2003 15:27:18 +0200, Fernando Poza wrote: I'm new in the list, but not in fvwm. I'm running debian in my box, and I wanted to update to the last stable fvwm version. But the thing is that it seems there is no debian package with fvwm.(fvwm*.deb) in fvwm.org. Am I right?, or I'm just not looked for correctly. Then, where can I find it?. Otherwise, I'm thinking in packagin it for debian. Let's see. I already said this several times in the past. If someone creates a clean procedure make deb-dist release=1 and make deb-this that does exactly what rpm-dist and rpm-this does, it will be included in the fvwm sources. Then everyone, for example yourself could build deb from any tar.gz or cvs automatically in minutes. Of course the procedure should not add any extra files to deb (or as less as possible) not to be different much from installing from the sources. It may also use the same configure options that the rpm procedure does. Maybe this could be taken care of by the current maintainer of the fvwm Debian package? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ apt-cache show fvwm | grep '^Maintainer:' Maintainer: Alexander Kotelnikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are speaking about the clean automatical procedure of creating deb from any tar.gz or cvs files. Something that we build may distribute together with tar.gz on every release, and something that any deb user can build himself. For example every rpm user may build rpm for his system(s) for 3 years now, like this: make rpm-dist mparams='CFLAGS=-O3 -g' cparams='--disable-xinerama' If Alexander wants to provide such automatic procedure to the developers (without adding any hook files, that may be packed in fvwm-debhooks deb), it is ok. But until now he did not do this, so any other Debian user who really wants immediate access to debs with any new release may volunteer. Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: fvwm for debian
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 05:25:26PM +0200, Fernando Poza wrote: What sounds weird to me, is that having available a debian package for fvwm 2.4.6-2, which means that somebody has already made the effort, the work has been stoped. Here in testing I have 2.4.15-2 Klaus So, it looks like fvwm package has become orphaned, or whatever way they call this situation in debian. So, before thinking seriously in packagin fvwm, I'll ask debian guys. Thanks for your answer. Fernando I already said this several times in the past. If someone creates a clean procedure make deb-dist release=1 and make deb-this that does exactly what rpm-dist and rpm-this does, it will be included in the fvwm sources. Then everyone, for example yourself could build deb from any tar.gz or cvs automatically in minutes. Of course the procedure should not add any extra files to deb (or as less as possible) not to be different much from installing from the sources. It may also use the same configure options that the rpm procedure does. Regards, Mikhael. -- I'm new in the list, but not in fvwm. I'm running debian in my box, and I wanted to update to the last stable fvwm version. But the thing is that it seems there is no debian package with fvwm.(fvwm*.deb) in fvwm.org. Am I right?, or I'm just not looked for correctly. Then, where can I find it?. Otherwise, I'm thinking in packagin it for debian. Let's see. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- 5) People say Linux is ugly. How does that make you feel? Torvalds: They'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes. Let's see just how ugly they think it is when they have a few bulletholes in them. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: fvwm for debian
Fernando Poza wrote: Hi there! I'm new in the list, but not in fvwm. I'm running debian in my box, and I wanted to update to the last stable fvwm version. But the thing is that it seems there is no debian package with fvwm.(fvwm*.deb) in fvwm.org. Am I right?, or I'm just not looked for correctly. Then, where can I find it?. Otherwise, I'm thinking in packagin it for debian. there's fvwm 2.4.15-2 in debian unstable you might want to contact current maintainer if you need/want 2.4.16 erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: fvwm for debian
On 03 Jun 2003 17:25:26 +0200, Fernando Poza wrote: What sounds weird to me, is that having available a debian package for fvwm 2.4.6-2, which means that somebody has already made the effort, the work has been stoped. So, it looks like fvwm package has become orphaned, or whatever way they call this situation in debian. So, before thinking seriously in packagin fvwm, I'll ask debian guys. I didn't suggest you to package fvwm for Debian, there is a packager already. I only said that if any smart Debian user contributes an automatical procedure for creating deb automatically, then the developers may solve this problem for Debian users. Until we find such volunteer (who wants to do it?), all Debian related questions/requests/problems must be directed to debian.org, not fvwm.org. P.S. Please put quotes before the answer on this list. Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
