Re: OSX10.4 on G3

2009-08-29 Thread Lawrence David Eden
A question for the List Mavens, I have an iMac at one of my schools. It is an early model and does not have a DVD drive. I have 10.3.9 installed and want to upgrade to 10.4x. I have Apple's 10.4 update disc, but it is a DVD. Is there another way to upgrade my iMacor must I purchase a

Re: OSX10.4 on G3

2009-08-29 Thread Paul Kemner
One solution to that, if you have access to a later iMac with a DVD drive is to put the disk in that computer and install 10.4, then put the drive back in your older G4. On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.netwrote: A question for the List Mavens, I have an

Re: OSX10.4 on G3

2009-08-29 Thread Paul Kemner
older G3 I meant. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our

We accept Apple is moving on

2009-08-29 Thread Nestamicky
...But for those of us who're going to be holding onto our PPC machines, as did those who held onto theirs before PPC, could we start a resource useful to make these machines stay current, run smoothly and efficiently? For example, it just came out of the OSX10.4 on G3 thread that you can turn

Re: Open Office vs. NeoOffice

2009-08-29 Thread Nestamicky
On 8/28/09 10:52 PM, di...@mathermotorsports.com wrote: Something that I can use simple keystrokes for basic formatting. Install NeoOffice. When you need to use it, start it and go make coffee. Once it's up, it's not that bad. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received

Re: OSX10.4 on G3

2009-08-29 Thread Bill Connelly
A little more on Spotlight indexing Off/On ... On Aug 28, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Dan wrote: At 4:18 PM -0400 8/28/2009, Bill Connelly wrote: On Aug 28, 2009, at 4:10 PM, nestamicky wrote: On 8/28/2009 1:57 PM, Dan wrote: many of us just disable the indexing (easily done with a few commands

Re: OSX10.4 on G3

2009-08-29 Thread Nestamicky
On 8/29/09 8:20 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: That's when I decided to place them all in the Privacy tab. Where's the Privacy tab, why is it necessary to put things thereplease expand. I'm on the quest to make my Ti efficient. Also, Spotlight has a terminal command to turn it off? I used

Re: Open Office vs. NeoOffice

2009-08-29 Thread diane
At 8:14 AM -0600 8/29/09, Nestamicky wrote: On 8/28/09 10:52 PM, mailto:di...@mathermotorsports.comdi...@mathermotorsports.com wrote: Something that I can use simple keystrokes for basic formatting. Install NeoOffice. When you need to use it, start it and go make coffee. Once it's up, it's

Re: OSX10.4 on G3

2009-08-29 Thread Bill Connelly
On Aug 29, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Nestamicky wrote: On 8/29/09 8:20 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: That's when I decided to place them all in the Privacy tab. Where's the Privacy tab, why is it necessary to put things thereplease expand. I'm on the quest to make my Ti efficient. Also,

Re: Open Office vs. NeoOffice

2009-08-29 Thread Nestamicky
On 8/29/09 8:31 AM, diane wrote: Unfortunately I don't drink coffee, but I can clean my desk. I think you meant, fortunately. I check my e-Mails. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4,

Re: Open Office vs. NeoOffice

2009-08-29 Thread Bill Connelly
On Aug 29, 2009, at 10:31 AM, diane wrote: At 8:14 AM -0600 8/29/09, Nestamicky wrote: On 8/28/09 10:52 PM, di...@mathermotorsports.com wrote: Something that I can use simple keystrokes for basic formatting. Install NeoOffice. When you need to use it, start it and go make coffee. Once

Re: Open Office vs. NeoOffice

2009-08-29 Thread diane
At 8:35 AM -0600 8/29/09, Nestamicky wrote: On 8/29/09 8:31 AM, diane wrote: Unfortunately I don't drink coffee, but I can clean my desk. I think you meant, fortunately. I check my e-Mails. Guess it depends on how you look at it. It is a fortunately, I don't need a habit that costs money

Re: OSX10.4 on G3

2009-08-29 Thread Nestamicky
On 8/29/09 8:32 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: So turning off Spotlight may not be overall more efficient. Well, this is sad. I was thinking that doing so would be one good way to run old machines efficiently. I really don't care about the initial indexing; I can go take some fresh air. Oh

Re: We accept Apple is moving on

2009-08-29 Thread mlitwin3797
I am not skilled at computers but I like that idea and would follow it. I am retired and would like to keep my older Apple going until I get a newer Apple computer in a few years.Once these new Apples grow older,they will be easier to afford. - Original Message - From:

Re: What OCR for Leopard?

2009-08-29 Thread Al Poulin
On Aug 28, 12:09 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Foex, now the nursing home can potentially find out who initiated the   complaint. I don't know about VA, but here in AZ that information is   confidential, and not released by the agency that investigates this   sort of

Re: Replacing power supply G4 MMD

2009-08-29 Thread mkehoe
I repaired permissions, and the desktop issue was resolved. After I press the internal re-set button for a few seconds, I can then press the external button(switch) and the computer will boot up. I will try replacing the power supply. The locall Apple Store said the computer is too old fort

Re: OSX10.4 on G3

2009-08-29 Thread Clark Martin
Paul Kemner wrote: One solution to that, if you have access to a later iMac with a DVD drive is to put the disk in that computer and install 10.4, then put the drive back in your older G4. That is doing it the hard way. On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Lawrence David Eden

Re: Open Office vs. NeoOffice

2009-08-29 Thread diane
It's official - Bruce rocks. :) Installed and running. Still didn't like some of the bullets in my old Word resume (even after installing wingdings.ttf) but the RTF version imports and I'm good to go. Thanks again, Diane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received

Re: OSX10.4 on G3

2009-08-29 Thread Charles Lenington
Clark Martin wrote: Paul Kemner wrote: One solution to that, if you have access to a later iMac with a DVD drive is to put the disk in that computer and install 10.4, then put the drive back in your older G4. That is doing it the hard way. On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 8:23

Re: Open Office vs. NeoOffice

2009-08-29 Thread Charles Lenington
diane wrote: At 8:14 AM -0600 8/29/09, Nestamicky wrote: On 8/28/09 10:52 PM, di...@mathermotorsports.com mailto:di...@mathermotorsports.com wrote: Something that I can use simple keystrokes for basic formatting. Install NeoOffice. When you need to use it, start it and go make coffee.

G4 HD Issue

2009-08-29 Thread Stephen Conrad
OK, I can get my G4 Quicksilve (OS X 10..11, 800 MHz, 1.5GB RAM) to boot from the new HD but if the old HD is not present it simply will NOT boot. I tried with another HD set as Slave and had no luck. I tried it with JUST the new HD and no luck. Put the old one back in as Slave and it boots fine.

Re: OSX10.4 on G3

2009-08-29 Thread Clark Martin
Charles Lenington wrote: Clark Martin wrote: Paul Kemner wrote: One solution to that, if you have access to a later iMac with a DVD drive is to put the disk in that computer and install 10.4, then put the drive back in your older G4. That is doing it the hard way. On

Re: G4 HD Issue

2009-08-29 Thread Bill Connelly
On Aug 29, 2009, at 7:13 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: OK, I can get my G4 Quicksilve (OS X 10..11, 800 MHz, 1.5GB RAM) to boot from the new HD but if the old HD is not present it simply will NOT boot. I tried with another HD set as Slave and had no luck. I tried it with JUST the new HD and

Re: Open Office vs. NeoOffice

2009-08-29 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Aug 29, 2009, at 11:53 AM, diane wrote: Still didn't like some of the bullets in my old Word resume (even after installing wingdings.ttf) but the RTF version imports and I'm good to go. I've had troubles with WORD not liking Word bullets, so that's not really a surprise :-) -- Bruce

Re: G4 HD Issue

2009-08-29 Thread Bill Connelly
On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: What shall I try next? If you're sure you have a bootable clone, have you tried the newer clone target drive (WD 120GB ?) alone, without any jumpers set? Do both drives (WD 120GB, IBM 40GB) have the exact same jumper meanings? The

Re: OSX10.4 on G3

2009-08-29 Thread Arnel Tuazon
On 28/08/09 12:40 PM, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote: Hey everyone, I'm a little confused? The question was: OSX10.4 on a G3 but when I'm reading these emails I keep hearing G4 mentioned too??? With all my knowledge and all the yrs I have been using Apples Tiger can

Re: G4 HD Issue

2009-08-29 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Bill Connellybillycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: What shall I try next? If you're sure you have a bootable clone, have you tried the newer clone target drive (WD 120GB ?) alone, without any jumpers set? Do

Re: OSX10.4 on G3

2009-08-29 Thread Richard Gerome
Hey Arnel, thanks for that info!!! I guess there is no way to do this on a 466 clamshell with 576mb??? Because Panther was way too slow on that machine for me so I down graded it to Jaguar... I ended up buying a used G4 Titanium Powerbook 1000mhz with 1000mb and a 100g HD so I can keep up

Re: G4 HD Issue

2009-08-29 Thread Bill Connelly
On Aug 29, 2009, at 11:41 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Bill Connellybillycarm...@verizon.net wrote: I happen to have a WD 60GB IDE drive, and it was functioning alone with Cable Select (1,2) set (pair closest to the power in) ... The other jumpers were

Re: G4 HD Issue

2009-08-29 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Bill Connellybillycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Aug 29, 2009, at 11:41 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Bill Connellybillycarm...@verizon.net wrote: I happen to have a WD 60GB IDE drive, and it was functioning alone with Cable

Re: G4 HD Issue

2009-08-29 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Bill Connellybillycarm...@verizon.net wrote: I happen to have a WD 60GB IDE drive, and it was functioning alone with Cable Select (1,2) set (pair closest to the power in) ... The other jumpers were used for the Master (5,6), Slave (3,4) and Single (none).

Re: Open Office vs. NeoOffice

2009-08-29 Thread Nestamicky
On 8/29/09 12:53 PM, diane wrote: Bruce rocks Like a rock band he rocks! I'm downloading now myself, but based on Diane's experience, I'd pitch in and say, yes, Bruce is a rocking, rocking rocker. Thanks Bruce, I thought OO left us PPC behind until now. Thanks!

Re: We accept Apple is moving on

2009-08-29 Thread Nestamicky
On 8/29/09 10:09 AM, Dan wrote: A FAQ could be quite useful. A wiki set up by LEM would be great. You should suggest it to LEM-Dan We are already making progress. (Sorry about the fonts Dan. Changed) Here's a link Bruce sent someone earlier today that would be useful in an FAQ or Wiki:

Re: OSX10.4 on G3

2009-08-29 Thread Arnel Tuazon
On 29/08/09 11:31 PM, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote: Hey Arnel, thanks for that info!!! I guess there is no way to do this on a 466 clamshell with 576mb??? Because Panther was way too slow on that machine for me so I down graded it to Jaguar... I ended up buying a used