Re: G3 Blue and White

2010-05-30 Thread PM7500
You're wrong. The upgrades for the beige G3, blue and white G3 and the Yikes! G4 are ALL ZIF processors. There is no other way to mount a CPU in those machines. The earlier beige machines had a dedicated CPU slot. On May 29, 3:15 pm, ah...clem boneheads...@gmail.com wrote: On May 27, 6:23 pm,

Re: G3 Blue and White

2010-05-30 Thread PM7500
I have had a Sonnet G4 1ghz in my 7500/100 and a G3 400 in my 7600/132 for years and have had no problems with them. Your information is false. Sonnet wouldn't have gotten away with making as many CPU upgrades as they did over the years if they had been shabby products. On May 29, 3:22 pm,

Re: G3 Blue and White

2010-05-30 Thread PM7500
You can use Quartz Extreme on PCI video cards. Even Rage 3D cards support Quartz Extreme. It's Core Image that you can't get in most PCI cards, but the nVidia FX5200 PCI that is normally found in the Xserve G5 does support both. The problem with the FX5200 is that it doesn't support 3d in classic,

Re: G3 Blue and White

2010-05-30 Thread PM7500
I wouldn't be so quick to upgrade a blue and white at this point. By the time you add up the cost of a CPU upgrade, additional RAM, better optical and hard drives, etc, you're going to be looking at the price of an early G5 Powermac, which will outperform the upgraded G3 in every way. You'd be

Why not Safari 3.0.4

2010-05-30 Thread Bruce - in Orlando
I just tried to go to my high school reunion social networking site (which is on Shutterfly). I seems that it requires Safari 3.0 or higher, EXCEPT 3.0.4. Naturally, that's what I have on my MDD running 10.4. Being a naturally suspicious person, I want to know why this site would hate 3.0.4 so

Re: Weird Stuff

2010-05-30 Thread Manuel Marques
My iMac Core Duo often wakes up on his own if I turn on or off the desk lamp, which is plugged in the same outlet as the iMac. Also, plugging my Palm Centro when the Mac is asleep often wakes it up (although I don't press the hotsync button, I only leave it there to charge...). I too have a DA

OS9.0.4 upgrade circle

2010-05-30 Thread larry moore
I've loaded her G4 BW with MacOS 9.0.4 using the software install CD but the version of Netscape bundled dies on the Apple site just on shifting to the Export Permission page. Does anyone have suggestions on how to get past this roadblock and upgrade her G4 to (eventually,) 9.2.2? Thanks,

Re: G3 Blue and White

2010-05-30 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: G3 Blue and White Date:Sonntag 30 Mai 2010N From:PM7500 jburke...@comcast.net To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On May 27, 2:21 pm, Jasiu johnschiavone...@gmail.com wrote: I have a 350MHZ G3 BW. I wanted to upgrade the

Re: Weird Stuff

2010-05-30 Thread Bill Connelly
On May 30, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Manuel Marques wrote: I too have a DA (733 MHz processor), which I got for free (it was about to be trashed...) along with a 17'' Apple Studio Display. ... I really can't believe someone would actually trash a perfectly working machine! :O MM Trash a

G5 printer duplexer?

2010-05-30 Thread John Carmonne
Hi All I have a G5 iMac 2.8 that has an Epson Artisan 800 printer and I need to find a duplexer for it but I find nothing. Is there anyone who knows about these? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for

Re: G5 printer duplexer?

2010-05-30 Thread Fabian Fang
On May 30, 2010, at 8:37 AM, John Carmonne wrote: I have a G5 iMac 2.8 that has an Epson Artisan 800 printer and I need to find a duplexer for it but I find nothing. Is there anyone who knows about these? It is readily available from numerous sources. Do a Google product search for

Re: Weird Stuff

2010-05-30 Thread gifutiger
Greetings Open your log files and they will tell you why the platform is waking. I had a similar problem years ago and it was a PCI card that was having a problem. It stood out like a sore thumb in the log files. That's why the log files are created. They've been around since the beginning of

Re: G3 Blue and White

2010-05-30 Thread JoeTaxpayer
Agreed. I'm still loving the MDD G4, and for less than $200 you can find dual 1.25GHz, 2GB memory, and a Leopard OS. G4 or G5 will not run Snow Leopard, which requires an Intel chip. If I were to give a warning, it would be that you need a USB 2.0 card, all of about $10, and that's the only needed

Re: OS9.0.4 upgrade circle

2010-05-30 Thread Kris Tilford
On May 30, 2010, at 9:41 AM, larry moore wrote: Does anyone have suggestions on how to get past this roadblock and upgrade her G4 to (eventually,) 9.2.2? Download a different browser. For freeware browsers, the most modern available is the Wamcom 1.3.1 Mozilla from 2003:

Re: G5 Wakes up Screaming

2010-05-30 Thread GLT
I'm having a problem that sounds pretty similar. Occasionally while sleeping, my G5's fan(s) (I can't tell from outside which ones) start screaming away at full speed. When this happens, though, the system is also (apparently) still sleeping but won't wake up. Nothing goes into any of the log

Re: G5 Wakes up Screaming

2010-05-30 Thread Kris Tilford
I believe this is called G5 thermal runaway when the fans go full blast. It's not related to sleep or network AFAIK. Some people have said Norton software is often responsible, so if you have anything from Norton, uninstall it. You can also try resetting the PMU:

Re: OS9.0.4 upgrade circle

2010-05-30 Thread Bruce Johnson
On May 30, 2010, at 7:41 AM, larry moore wrote: I've loaded her G4 BW with MacOS 9.0.4 using the software install CD but the version of Netscape bundled dies on the Apple site just on shifting to the Export Permission page. Does anyone have suggestions on how to get past this roadblock

Re: G5 printer duplexer?

2010-05-30 Thread John Carmonne
On May 30, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Fabian Fang wrote: On May 30, 2010, at 8:37 AM, John Carmonne wrote: I have a G5 iMac 2.8 that has an Epson Artisan 800 printer and I need to find a duplexer for it but I find nothing. Is there anyone who knows about these? It is readily available from

Re: Why not Safari 3.0.4

2010-05-30 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 6:41 AM -0700 5/30/2010, Bruce - in Orlando wrote: I just tried to go to my high school reunion social networking site (which is on Shutterfly). I seems that it requires Safari 3.0 or higher, EXCEPT 3.0.4. Naturally,

933 mhz G4 Quicksilver Powermac OS Linux or OS X?

2010-05-30 Thread Scotty
I have a used G4 Quicksilver w/1.25 GB RAM that I love and well it came with 10.5 installed but I have to re-install an OS on it. I don't have a copy of 10.5 , but I do have the Original OS 10.2 disk that came with the Quicksilver, A copy of 10.4 from my old Lampshade iMac G4 that I am not sure

Re: 933 mhz G4 Quicksilver Powermac OS Linux or OS X?

2010-05-30 Thread Dennis Myhand
Scotty wrote: I have a used G4 Quicksilver w/1.25 GB RAM that I love and well it came with 10.5 installed but I have to re-install an OS on it. I don't have a copy of 10.5 , but I do have the Original OS 10.2 disk that came with the Quicksilver, A copy of 10.4 from my old Lampshade iMac G4 that

Re: G5 printer duplexer?

2010-05-30 Thread Fabian Fang
On May 30, 2010, at 3:46 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On May 30, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Fabian Fang wrote: On May 30, 2010, at 8:37 AM, John Carmonne wrote: I have a G5 iMac 2.8 that has an Epson Artisan 800 printer and I need to find a duplexer for it but I find nothing. Is there anyone who knows

SATA DVD drive on PCI/SATA controller?

2010-05-30 Thread ah...clem
hey all! i've been using an ACard 6290M PCI/SATA controller in a QS for a while now, and it works beautifully with a 1TB Seagate (boot disk) connected. but i just tried to connect a Pioneer DVD/CD drive w/ SATA interface to the second SATA port on the ACard, and it is not recognized, and it

Re: 933 mhz G4 Quicksilver Powermac OS Linux or OS X?

2010-05-30 Thread Daniel Stewart
Well yeah that is kind of what defines open source, but you could say the same thing about Windows and with the exception on Windows 7 I have found nothing more reliable then the open source stuff on the PC side. I am wondering if I would be better going with an out of date, and unsupported

Re: OS9.0.4 upgrade circle

2010-05-30 Thread larry moore shirley allan
On 30/05/10 04:20 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On May 30, 2010, at 9:41 AM, larry moore wrote: Does anyone have suggestions on how to get past this roadblock and upgrade her G4 to (eventually,) 9.2.2? Download a different browser. For freeware browsers, the most modern available is the Wamcom

Re: SATA DVD drive on PCI/SATA controller?

2010-05-30 Thread gifutiger
Greetings Altho I wasn't trying to connect a SATA drive and a CD/DVD when I connected two drives the first time I had similar problems. Turned out the the second SATA cable was bed. Have you tried just connecting the Pioneer drive to the same cable and port that the Seagate is connected? Give it

Re: G5 printer duplexer?

2010-05-30 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On May 30, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Fabian Fang wrote: On May 30, 2010, at 3:46 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On May 30, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Fabian Fang wrote: On May 30, 2010, at 8:37 AM, John Carmonne wrote: I have a G5 iMac 2.8 that has an Epson Artisan 800 printer and I need to find a duplexer

Re: OS9.0.4 upgrade circle

2010-05-30 Thread Kris Tilford
On May 30, 2010, at 6:39 PM, larry moore shirley allan wrote: A rescue G4, with one slot of memory populated, Someone was selling a full set of RAM that fits for $5 on LEM-Swap yesterday. It's probably gone now, but this Mac should use RAM that's really cheap now used. The difference

Re: OS9.0.4 upgrade circle

2010-05-30 Thread John Carmonne
On May 30, 2010, at 6:55 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On May 30, 2010, at 6:39 PM, larry moore shirley allan wrote: A rescue G4, with one slot of memory populated, Someone was selling a full set of RAM that fits for $5 on LEM-Swap yesterday. It's probably gone now, but this Mac should use

USB 3.0

2010-05-30 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
Hi All I was in Fry's today and happened to notice external HDD 3.5 enclosures that stated USB 3.0. I never saw these before. Is that something that needs special support from my computers? Can I download something that will make my USB faster? Do I get a card to utilize it? JOHN CARMONNE

Re: USB 3.0

2010-05-30 Thread Jeffrey Engle
I believe you'll need a USB3.0 PCIe card funny it looks like USB 3.0 has been out since late last year, but do you see it on Apple stuff? nope, not yet. As for me, I'm waiting till Apple's got it before I buy my next upgrade. Till then I'm happy with my 5-6 year old's :-) Jeff On May

Re: USB 3.0

2010-05-30 Thread Kris Tilford
On May 30, 2010, at 9:41 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: I was in Fry's today and happened to notice external HDD 3.5 enclosures that stated USB 3.0. I never saw these before. Is that something that needs special support from my computers? Can I download something that will make my USB faster? Do

Re: USB 3.0

2010-05-30 Thread Peter Haas
On May 30, 2010, at 7:41 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: I was in Fry's today and happened to notice external HDD 3.5 enclosures that stated USB 3.0. I never saw these before. Is that something that needs special support from my computers? Gigabyte, and others, have had USB 3.0 mobos on the

Re: USB 3.0

2010-05-30 Thread Kris Tilford
On May 30, 2010, at 9:59 PM, Peter Haas wrote: Gigabyte, and others, have had USB 3.0 mobos on the market for months. Won't work in OS X even on a hack without an OS X USB 3.0 extension which doesn't exist AFAIK. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group

RE: SATA DVD drive on PCI/SATA controller?

2010-05-30 Thread Stewie de Young
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 16:28:52 -0700 Subject: SATA DVD drive on PCI/SATA controller? From: boneheads...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com hey all! i've been using an ACard 6290M PCI/SATA controller in a QS for a while now, and it works beautifully with a 1TB Seagate (boot

Re: SATA DVD drive on PCI/SATA controller?

2010-05-30 Thread Chance Reecher
Where are you getting that 12MB/s figure? I'm pretty sure USB 2.0 is good for up to 60MB/s, and I personally have seen around 40MB/s. On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 7:28 PM, ah...clem boneheads...@gmail.com wrote: because the USB2 will limit xfers to a maximum of around 12MB/s (approx 8x DVD speed).

Re: Why not Safari 3.0.4

2010-05-30 Thread Dan
At 5:52 PM -0500 5/30/2010, Stephen Conrad wrote: Insert my usual gripes about Safari 4.0.5 and its known memory leak. Oh, get over it. EVERY browser on the market leaks. 1) Just run WebKit Nightly on top of Safari 4.0.5. That way you get the latest Safari, with its HTML 5 support and

Re: USB 3.0

2010-05-30 Thread iJohn
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Microsoft has such pull that USB3 will certainly have a lot of vendor support even if LightPeak beats it all around. It could be the USB/Firewire battle all over again? Why on earth do folks associate Microsoft with

Re: USB 3.0

2010-05-30 Thread Peter Haas
On May 30, 2010, at 9:29 PM, iJohn wrote: My understanding is that USB is and always has been one of Intel's babies. Microsoft has no skin in that game other than they have to at least not get in the way of supporting USB 3.0. Apple actually has a lot more latitude than Microsoft since they

Re: USB 3.0

2010-05-30 Thread Dan
At 12:29 AM -0400 5/31/2010, iJohn wrote: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Microsoft has such pull that USB3 will certainly have a lot of vendor support even if LightPeak beats it all around. It could be the USB/Firewire battle all over again? Why on