Home Theater PowerPC Takeover?

[t...@savingus.org]

One of my (too many) side projects was a not-yet-ready to be published 
website for Home Theater PowerPC - using a G3, G4, or G5 Macintosh and 
various audio and video equipment to (inexpensively) make a home 
theater, audio/video jukebox and/or legacy gaming system.


I've got several mostly finished pages (65% done?) with various how-to 
info, pics and links, but no time to keep researching and playing with 
different things - much less time to complete the site and polish it.


I've tried to make sure all the graphics are either not copyrighted, or 
I did them myself. I also tried to focus on freeware and open-source 
software, but some of it isn't - also some of the software descriptions 
are copied and pasted directly, so please don't publish yet yourself 
as-is without changing. And I can't garuntee complete accuracy - I 
haven't had time to research every scenario, etc.


Anyhow - if anyone in the group is interested in taking this endeavor 
over (or, even if you are just interested in HTPPC) please email me 
directly at t...@savingus.org with HTPPC in the subject and I'll reply 
with the website as-is; a 1.8 MB zipped file consisting of 7 incomplete 
web pages (still easily viewable in any web browser), a CSS file and an 
image folder of 99 images (I used maybe half).


Eric

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Re: Macsbug - No Longer Available

[Charles Lenington]

On 3/14/11 10:24 AM, jsmanson wrote:

Apple has removed the link for macsbug, the last version they released
for Mac OS9.  I have searched high and low for a copy on another
server somewhere, but everything points back to the Aple FTP site.
Does anyone know where I can find a copy?

John


http://macgui.com/downloads/?

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Re: importing iphoto files.

[Kris Tilford]

On Mar 14, 2011, at 7:43 PM, jason wrote:


Pismo's in target mode, connected by firewire.  I opened up iphoto 6,
File>Import to Library.  Chose applications>  but the iphoto 3 icon
seems to be grayed out, and can't select it as an option.


It's NOT the application you're trying to import, it's the iPhoto  
Library data folder which is normally located within ~user/Pictures/ 
iPhoto Library. If you can't import the whole iPhoto Library because  
it's dim, then open the iPhoto Library by Ctl-click>Show Contents and  
then navigate to the folder "Originals" and import them.


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Re: importing iphoto files.

[jason]

Pismo's in target mode, connected by firewire.  I opened up iphoto 6,
File>Import to Library.  Chose applications>  but the iphoto 3 icon
seems to be grayed out, and can't select it as an option.

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Re: When you really need to erase data...

[Bruce Johnson]

On Mar 14, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Brian Kemp wrote:

> 2: I can't believe Apple put that in their software - there is *no
> need* to run Gutmann's 35-pass wipe from any tool on any drive you can
> put in a Mac, even ones with a Motorola 68k processor.

There is no need to run antivirus software on a Mac yet IT departments the 
world over mandate it. :-/

The 35-poass was not put in there as a realistic tool (good lord, based on 
7-pass timing, it would take three weeks and most likely fry any drive you 
tried it on) but as a checkoff on some list of specifications required for some 
contractuakl requirement to get it on some approved vendor lists.


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Re: When you really need to erase data...

[Brian Kemp]

> D-BAN is great for Windoze and Linux (my boyfriend has it for his Linux
> boxes).  However, OS X's Disk Utility offers -- if you click"Options"
> after you select "Erase" -- "Zero Out," which writes zeroes all over the
> disk, plus two more called 7-Pass Erase and 35-Pass Erase, which write
> data to the drive 7 and 35 times, respectively. To the best of my
> knowledge, the 35-Pass Erase is D-BAN equivalent. The 35-Pass Erase also
> takes half a century (er, well, you know what I mean). However, if I was
> going to sell my hard drives, I would definitely 35-Pass erase them
> first. When I get a "new" used HD, I do a "blind" (just run, don't look)
> 7-Pass erase on it before formatting for my own use. I'd do the 35 in
> this case too, but it really does take a long time, and, not only do I
> not look on the "new" drive first, well whatever might be on it, it's
> not MY data! So I personally only recommend the 35 if you're planning to
> SELL the drive to someone else. Not everybody chooses to be as "blind"
> as I do.

Two things:

1: DBAN is Linux. There exists an ISO for PPC, although I think it's
still beta.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/dban/files/dban/dban-2.0.0/dban-2.0.0_powerpc.iso/download
Still Linux but you don't need to remove the drive from a Mac to wipe
it.
(Disclaimer: I haven't tried the PPC flavor as my G5 is still in
service.)

2: I can't believe Apple put that in their software - there is *no
need* to run Gutmann's 35-pass wipe from any tool on any drive you can
put in a Mac, even ones with a Motorola 68k processor. That 35 passes
is a theoretical "I don't know the storage technology" and it only
applies for drive storage standards that pre-date disks that talk
SCSI. The idea is that the sum of the passes will ensure that all the
bits get switched at least twice regardless of any encoding or
compression technology used by RLL or MFM disks etc. - things Macs
have never used.

My policy:
Redeployment - quick erase (same as dd if=/dev/zero of=)
Disposal / failed, no private keys on device: DOD-short (3-pass)
Private keys on disk: DOD-full (7-pass)

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Re: When you really need to erase data...

[Bruce Johnson]

On Mar 14, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote:

> User
> IDs, passwords, codes, all kinds of things you did not know your
> browser has hid not only as cookies, and passwords, but also as Form
> History that you can NOT GET TO unless you use this EXTENSION: (This is
> NOT a Plugin)

Tools > Clear Recent History in Firefox offers an explicit checkbox to 
eliminate stored form data, in Seamonkey 2.0.12 it's Tools > Clear private 
data. Both offer extensive options to control your saved form history and 
manage saved passwords in the Preferences.

Safari exposes this information in the Autofill preferences, where you can 
delete all or on a site-by-site basis. The passwords themselves are stored 
securely in the user's Keychain. Opening keychain access and locking the login 
keytchain will make it prompt you for your password any time you want to use 
that data.

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Re: M-Audio Revolution 7.1 and Power Mac G4

[Bill Connelly]

On Mar 14, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:


On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:54 AM, imrazor wrote:


As a final note, I'd like to point out that the the Revolution sounds
very good on a Hackintosh. A hacker has taken it upon himself to  
write
Intel drivers from scratch for the Revolution (and similar cards)  
that

actually sound quite good. See here:

http://www.audio-evolution.com/drivers/


These drivers say nothing about "Intel only", and normally Leopard  
10.5 drivers are "universal" so perhaps the 10.5 drivers work on PPC  
Macs also?


My understanding is there are ones for Snow Leopard and Leopard. Hope  
Leopard is for PPCs ...


I'm trying to get the Envy24 drivers to install and load on my QS 2002  
Dual 1GHz under Leopard 10.5.8 for an M-Audio 2496 PCI audio card ...  
trying to contact the designer about what I might be doing wrong.  
Doesn't load so far. Sent him/her my machine specs in the form of a  
System Profiler report.


Was excited to hear of some drivers under Leopard, even without the  
MIDI support ...


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Re: When you really need to erase data...

[Jonas Lopez]

I kept trying to get rid of what
turns out to be known as FORM HISTORY. All those things you entered
were stored and can be retrieved and are a BIG DANGER to most of us.

User
IDs, passwords, codes, all kinds of things you did not know your
browser has hid not only as cookies, and passwords, but also as Form
History that you can NOT GET TO unless you use this EXTENSION: (This is
NOT a Plugin)

Try installing the Form History Control extension for SeaMonkey:

Then go to Tools->Form History -- you will be shocked!

JML
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From: Alex Barnes 
Subject: Re: When you really need to erase data...
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 8:31 PM

Disk Utility in Mac OS X does the same thing (zeroing out drives) but you don't 
need a PeeCee.
On Mar 13, 2011, at 5:19 AM, faithie999 wrote:

> i rebuild old PC's and give them to a social worker to give to her
> clients.  i found this program
> http://www.dban.org/    "Boot n Nuke"
> which yes, is a DOS boot disc/DOD-level erasing program, but if you
> have a PC around you can install your old Mac HD into it and when Boot
> n Nuke starts you can choose from 7 levels of data destruction.  a
> pretty slick tool.
> 
> 

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Re: M-Audio Revolution 7.1 and Power Mac G4

[Kris Tilford]

On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:54 AM, imrazor wrote:


As a final note, I'd like to point out that the the Revolution sounds
very good on a Hackintosh. A hacker has taken it upon himself to write
Intel drivers from scratch for the Revolution (and similar cards) that
actually sound quite good. See here:

http://www.audio-evolution.com/drivers/


These drivers say nothing about "Intel only", and normally Leopard  
10.5 drivers are "universal" so perhaps the 10.5 drivers work on PPC  
Macs also?


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Re: importing iphoto files.

[Kris Tilford]

On Mar 14, 2011, at 1:59 PM, jason wrote:


Ok.  Got the g5 in target disk mode and in iphoto on the pismo I
clicked File>Export to a folder on the g5.

Popup box said :  Caution.  There is not enough disk space to complete
that operation.

The hard drive on the pismo has 68 gb free and the g5 has 850gb free.
Maybe that's not the kind of disk space that the iphoto is seeing?


I think you're going about this all wrong.

First, jumping from iPhoto 3 to iPhoto 6 seems like a problem. Also, I  
don't think "Export" is the action you want because iPhoto keeps  
photos as "originals" and also as any edited modifications you may  
have done, and when you "Export" a photo it creates another new photo  
file from the latest modified version. What you want is to transfer  
your originals I believe?


Here's what I would do:

1)Boot the Pismo in Target Disk mode (hold "t" key at boot) and attach  
it to the G5 via a Firewire cable. The Pismo HD should mount on the G5  
Desktop.


Launch iPhoto 6 on the G5 and go to File>Import and navigate to the  
iPhoto Library on the Pismo HD and select it to import. This should  
import all the photos from the Pismo.


If this gives you any error message, try opening the Pismo's iPhoto 3  
Library (may need to Ctl-click>Show Contents) and then find the  
"Originals" folder and drag and drop this folder onto your iPhoto 6  
icon, or your open iPhoto 6 application window on the G5. This should  
"Import" all these "Originals" from the Pismo onto the G5's iPhoto 6  
Library.


When done importing, eject the Pismo HD and search your iPhoto 6  
library for any duplicates.




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Re: importing iphoto files.

[Bruce Johnson]

On Mar 14, 2011, at 11:59 AM, jason wrote:

> Ok.  Got the g5 in target disk mode and in iphoto on the pismo I
> clicked File>Export to a folder on the g5.
> 
> Popup box said :  Caution.  There is not enough disk space to complete
> that operation.
> 
> The hard drive on the pismo has 68 gb free and the g5 has 850gb free.
> Maybe that's not the kind of disk space that the iphoto is seeing?

That's an odd error...make absolutely sure you're exporting to the G5. What 
does 'Get Info' on the Pismo say about the  G5 when it's mounted on the 
desktop? For some bizarre reason TDM may not be reporting the correct amount of 
free space on the G5.
The G5 drive isn't partitioned is it? Try exporting a few pictures to see if 
iPhoto is blowing them up unreasonably. Check in the export dialog that you're 
exporting the original not recoding as a tiff or something.

 I know iPhoto '09 lets me drag photos out of the library to the desktop as the 
current, edited version.

Maybe you can drag them to the G5 disk that way, in batches.

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Re: Radeon 9600 from G5 ­ possible upgrade for G4?

[Mac User #330250]

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Subject: Re: Radeon 9600 from G5 ­ possible upgrade for G4?
Date:Monday, 14. March 2011
From:pdimage 
To:  "g3-5-list@googlegroups.com" 
> On 14/03/2011 05:51, "Mac User #330250"  wrote:
> > Why tape the pins 3&11, if this card doesn't feature ADC?
> 
> The taping is required for any 8x agp card to work in any 2x/4x agp capable
> mac with adc connectors. These pins were unused in the 2x/4x agp spec  but
> brought into use for the 8x spec - meanwhile Apple had 'borrowed' these two
> connections for their proprietary ADC spec.

I knew that.

> Resulting in the strange AGP
> Pro design and the fact that no mac with adc will boot with an 8x agp card
> installed unless these pins are isolated. So the feature is in the mobo
> agp slot rather than the card.

I didn't figure that out myself. Must be my brain getting more and more worn
out… Anyway, it makes perfect sense. Thanks!

> Another point to note is that isolating these two pins 'forces' the
> card to work at 4x agp even in an 8x slot and there are many flashed cards
> around which will work in G4 or G5 agp slots without the taping because
> the connections to the pins 3 and 11 have been severed. So though the
> taping is no longer required the card is 'hobbled' to 4x agp. In an 8x
> capable G5 the card performance is halved..not too clever. So if you
> have a G5 and buy an 8x agp card like a Radeon 9800 Pro that claims G4/G5
> compatibility but does not require the taping..bewarethe card
> is hobbled. Can be dehobbled but that's a finicky job.

Thanks again. The card I have in mind is a G5-only card, so it is most likely
an AGPx8 card without any modification.
I'll have to tape the pins to make it work in the MDD then.

And I just found where it must be taken from:
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/faq/powermac-g5-adc-ports-dvi-ports-resolutions-supported.html
Either an “Early 2005” PowerMac7,3 G5 DP 2.0 or a DP 2.3, the DP 2.7 has the
faster/better variant Radeon 9650 with 256 MB VRAM.
All earlier Power Mac G5’s have DVI+ADC.


Thanks!
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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Re: importing iphoto files.

[jason]

Ok.  Got the g5 in target disk mode and in iphoto on the pismo I
clicked File>Export to a folder on the g5.

Popup box said :  Caution.  There is not enough disk space to complete
that operation.

The hard drive on the pismo has 68 gb free and the g5 has 850gb free.
Maybe that's not the kind of disk space that the iphoto is seeing?

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Re: What form factor is the Airport Extreme card?

[peterhaas]

> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Broadcom-wireless-wifi-B-G-mini-PCI-card-BCM4318-/260726618089

For example, this card's MAC address begins 00179E (you can read that on
the back of the card).

This indicates that Sirit Inc actually made the card.

One clue to the widespread use of this very same design, by many
manufacturers, is the indicia T60H09 in the upper left-hand corner of the
card. All cards appears to have this silk-screened onto them, but there
could be others.

These cards all have two antenna terminals, which is common for laptop and
netbook cards.

In practice, only the MAIN/J1 terminal is used, and the AUX/J2 terminal is
ignored.

There are Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter cards which have two and even three
internal cables, and sometimes two and even three external antennas, but
these are of no benefit on a Broadcom 4318 card.



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Re: What form factor is the Airport Extreme card?

[Jeffrey Engle]

On Mar 14, 2011, at 11:35 AM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote:

>> 
>> Peter, in another post I asked if you would/could send me those ebay
>> links? If it's not too much trouble that is:-) Jeff
> 
> I did, but I'll do it again.
> 
> 1) the Broadcom-licensed 4318 Mini-PCI card itself (made in China under
> license from Broadcom, and generally sold to Dell and many other laptop
> manufacturers EXCEPT IBM) ...
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Broadcom-wireless-wifi-B-G-mini-PCI-card-BCM4318-/260726618089
> 
> 2) the generic Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter complete with R-SMC antenna
> connector and cable and antenna ...
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Mini-PCI-PCI-Converter-Adapter-Wireless-Card-Antenna-/270564968219



Thanks a bunch! Jeff

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Re: What form factor is the Airport Extreme card?

[peterhaas]

> Peter, in another post I asked if you would/could send me those ebay
> links? If it's not too much trouble that is:-) Jeff

I did, but I'll do it again.

1) the Broadcom-licensed 4318 Mini-PCI card itself (made in China under
license from Broadcom, and generally sold to Dell and many other laptop
manufacturers EXCEPT IBM) ...

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Broadcom-wireless-wifi-B-G-mini-PCI-card-BCM4318-/260726618089

2) the generic Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter complete with R-SMC antenna
connector and cable and antenna ...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mini-PCI-PCI-Converter-Adapter-Wireless-Card-Antenna-/270564968219

Often times, the cheapest solution is separate Mini-PCI card,
Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter and antenna as three separate items.

I use the "Buy-It-Now" flag and also the "sort by lowest price including
shipping" flag for my searches.

Broadcom only licenses the design and it sells the actual manufacturer the
4318 chip, hence it is conceivable that there are visible differences.
(Each separate manufacturer will, therefore, have its own PCI vendor code
and its own block of MAC addresses, but these differences are of no
practical impact on the end-user).

The key to Airport Extreme compatibility appears to me to be the statement
that the 4318 card is intended for Dell and other laptops, but not for IBM
laptops.

There may be antenna connector differences in an IBM unit, or there could
be other differences.

Of all the many cards which I have purchased from different sellers, but
using the same description, none was not immediately recognized as Airport
Extreme-compatible, and I never had a DOA.

In fact, all such cards appeared to be brand-new, even if the description
stated that the cards were used.

All claimed to be tested, and all were shipped in sealed, static-free bags.

Note: there are apparently no "low profile" adapter cards, even though the
combination of the Mini-PCI card and the Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter card is
no taller than a "low profile" PCI card.

Note also that a "standard profile" bracket has a lot of room on the upper
portion of the bracket where one might choose to mount an iSATA-to-eSATA
adapter cable, or another type of adapter cable, thereby saving one card
position.



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Re: What form factor is the Airport Extreme card?

[Jeffrey Engle]

On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:55 AM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote:

> 
>> Just curious here, is the Airport extreme card a "mini-pci" card? will it
>> fit into a mini-pci slot? has anybody tried this?
> 
> The Broadcom cards which are sold for use in Dell laptops are indeed
> Mini-PCI cards.
> 
> For use in a desktop Mac, you would also use a Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter
> card, one which also included an R-RMC connector and cable, and an R-SMC
> antenna.

> 
> All of the required components can be obtained from eBay sellers for about
> $10.
> 
> The correct Broadcom card is a 4318, and the description says it works in
> Dell and other laptops EXCEPT for IBM laptops.
> 
> (Perhaps IBM laptops of that vintage were already using PCI-e or
> Mini-PCI-e cards which Broadcom also makes and some of which may be used
> in certain desktop and netbook Hacks).


Peter, in another post I asked if you would/could send me those ebay links? If 
it's not too much trouble that is:-) Jeff

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Re: What form factor is the Airport Extreme card?

[peterhaas]

> Just curious here, is the Airport extreme card a "mini-pci" card? will it
> fit into a mini-pci slot? has anybody tried this?

The Broadcom cards which are sold for use in Dell laptops are indeed
Mini-PCI cards.

For use in a desktop Mac, you would also use a Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter
card, one which also included an R-RMC connector and cable, and an R-SMC
antenna.

All of the required components can be obtained from eBay sellers for about
$10.

The correct Broadcom card is a 4318, and the description says it works in
Dell and other laptops EXCEPT for IBM laptops.

(Perhaps IBM laptops of that vintage were already using PCI-e or
Mini-PCI-e cards which Broadcom also makes and some of which may be used
in certain desktop and netbook Hacks).



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Re: Motherboard and Memory Questions on recovered DAFir

[Albert Carter]

Mark,

 Once again as noted in my previous email I would suggest working with one 
stick of RAM at a time and moving it through all RAM Slots. This will narrow 
down where the exact problem is.


Albert




From: Mark Murphy 
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Motherboard  and Memory Questions on recovered DAFir


I looked into the other machine and I found two sticks of Crucial 133 ram. So I 
did screw that up. But, it didn't make much difference.

I looked at the ram in the DA and pulled out the two sticks that weren't marked 
133 and put in the two sticks I found.

The only change is that in slots J21 and J22 now have 133 ram and J23 shows 
empty.

I think this is an improvement.

Mark Murphy

On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Albert Carter wrote:

Mark,
>
>
> First thing I notice with this information is that the memory cannot 
>possibly be all original. Just looking at the report on the RAM that is in the 
>2 populated slots you have 2 totally different speeds and latency types of 
>memory. Granted I come from a PC World mostly and just dabble in Macs, but in 
>a PC this would cause problems including it not being able to recognize the 
>memory (Anyone know if this is true for Macs?). The other thing is you have 4 
>slots and if all are filled with 512MB you should be seeing 2 GB of total RAM. 
>Since the computer is recognizing just 2 slots I would do the following. 
>Remove all memory and then test 1 stick in all 4 slots and see if it is 
>recognized in all 4 slots. Move onto the next stick and do the same. You can 
>also record what the computer detects each individual stick as so you can have 
>that for your records. I suspect you have 4 different types of RAM and that's 
>confusing the computer.
>
>
>
>
>Thank You,
>Albert
>
>
>
>
>
>

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What form factor is the Airport Extreme card?

[Jeffrey Engle]

Just curious here, is the Airport extreme card a "mini-pci" card? will it fit 
into a mini-pci slot? has anybody tried this?


Jeffrey Engle
Kamiah, Idaho 83536
macgu...@gmail.com





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Re: Macsbug - No Longer Available

[Dan]

At 8:24 AM -0700 3/14/2011, jsmanson wrote:

Apple has removed the link for macsbug, the last version they released
for Mac OS9.  I have searched high and low for a copy on another
server somewhere, but everything points back to the Aple FTP site.
Does anyone know where I can find a copy?




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Macsbug - No Longer Available

[jsmanson]

Apple has removed the link for macsbug, the last version they released
for Mac OS9.  I have searched high and low for a copy on another
server somewhere, but everything points back to the Aple FTP site.
Does anyone know where I can find a copy?

John

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Re: SIIG Ultra ATA-133 Failure

[Bruce Johnson]

On Mar 14, 2011, at 6:48 AM, smac0031 wrote:

> I am not sure how it is supposed to be aligned. It has a stripe down
> one side and all the other capacitors are facing the same way.
> 
> I am wondering if it is worth trying to solder this back on. I don't
> know if my opinion of this card is improved now that I know that
> something has fallen off of it and that is the most likely reason it
> doesn't work and it's not really a piece of crap.


This has the instructions you'll need. It's an article about replacing bad caps 
on logic boards, but the soldering and placement info should get you where you 
want to be. It's worth a try, anyway...



Here's how to id the positive and negative leads:



There should be markings on the board where the cap was soldered in.

Now, if the cap was broken off, then it's likely you;ll have to replace it, 
rather than re-solder it. Take the cap you found to a decent electroncs supply 
store (or go online to  ) to get a replacement.

-- 
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College of Pharmacy
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Re: Motherboard and Memory Questions on recovered DAFir

[Mark Murphy]

I looked into the other machine and I found two sticks of Crucial 133  
ram. So I did screw that up. But, it didn't make much difference.


I looked at the ram in the DA and pulled out the two sticks that  
weren't marked 133 and put in the two sticks I found.


The only change is that in slots J21 and J22 now have 133 ram and J23  
shows empty.


I think this is an improvement.

Mark Murphy
On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Albert Carter wrote:


Mark,

 First thing I notice with this information is that the memory  
cannot possibly be all original. Just looking at the report on the  
RAM that is in the 2 populated slots you have 2 totally different  
speeds and latency types of memory. Granted I come from a PC World  
mostly and just dabble in Macs, but in a PC this would cause  
problems including it not being able to recognize the memory  
(Anyone know if this is true for Macs?). The other thing is you  
have 4 slots and if all are filled with 512MB you should be seeing  
2 GB of total RAM. Since the computer is recognizing just 2 slots I  
would do the following. Remove all memory and then test 1 stick in  
all 4 slots and see if it is recognized in all 4 slots. Move onto  
the next stick and do the same. You can also record what the  
computer detects each individual stick as so you can have that for  
your records. I suspect you have 4 different types of RAM and  
that's confusing the computer.



Thank You,
Albert



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Re: M-Audio Revolution 7.1 and Power Mac G4

[imrazor]

>
> Thanks, Bill. Though I'm not looking to M-Audio for anything I'd  
> record my own music with (I wouldn't dare, after what I've read),  
> your experience echoes the overall tenor of what I've read elsewhere.  
> Frustration.
>
> So the hardware is good and the drivers suck and support does not  
> exist. The driver situation doesn't bode well. Anything could happen.  
> Support, well... since when could I expect support for a Sawtooth or  
> anything I could possibly put into it (aside from this here list  
> itself, of course)? Unfortunately, for my machine, one of the M-Audio  
> Revolutions seems to be the only game in town. I've seen them on eBay  
> for cheap, but I have no experience with eBay and no trust. At the  
> right price, the M-Audio could be worth taking a chance on. I guess  
> I'll keep an eye on LEM Swap for a while.
>
> Over and out.
>
> Sean Carroll
> slcarr...@me.com

As a final note, I'd like to point out that the the Revolution sounds
very good on a Hackintosh. A hacker has taken it upon himself to write
Intel drivers from scratch for the Revolution (and similar cards) that
actually sound quite good. See here:

http://www.audio-evolution.com/drivers/

Eric

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Re: SIIG Ultra ATA-133 Failure

[Bill Connelly]

On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:48 AM, smac0031 wrote:


I am not sure how it is supposed to be aligned. It has a stripe down
one side and all the other capacitors are facing the same way.

I am wondering if it is worth trying to solder this back on. I don't
know if my opinion of this card is improved now that I know that
something has fallen off of it and that is the most likely reason it
doesn't work and it's not really a piece of crap.


I was lucky and found a local man who solders things onto mobo's, and  
he fixed such a problem on my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz mobo. I had knocked  
off a similar structure near a PCI slot when trying to install a PCI  
card.


If you could find a picture of the card, and a pro mobo solder-man/ 
woman, I'm sure it would be satisfying.


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Re: importing iphoto files.

[Bruce Johnson]

On Mar 13, 2011, at 8:49 PM, jason wrote:

> Thought I'd give this another try...
> Transferring iphoto files from my pismo to a g5.  The pismo has iphoto
> 3 installed.  The g5 has v.6 iphoto installed with the ilife 6
> package.

Try this...start the G5 in Target disk mode, connect to the Pismo.

In iPhoto on the Pismo, export your entire library (as full size originals) to 
a folder on the new machine.

Disconnect, reboot the G5, open the folder of exported photos, and drag them 
into your iPhoto library.

I've never had good luck importing iPhoto 'backups' back into iPhoto for some 
reason.

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Re: Duplication

[Dan]

At 5:31 AM -0700 3/14/2011, ainsies wrote:

G'day to all
Thought I would give this another try

Approx. five months ago I posted that I was receiving double, & treble
copies of ALL emails from this group, which was filling my inbox in a
big way. At that time Dan replied that Google would fix this little
error, so not to worry about it.

Well as I have said this was five months ago, and I am still receiving
all these extra copies of every email from the group.

Does anyone else have this problem, or is it just me, and if it is
only me, would anyone know of a remedy ?


wow.  :(  Um, the dups I was seeing stopped long ago, and I haven't 
seen complaints about such recently.


Just messages from G3-5-List or from all your subscribed google groups or ?

Go into your GMail account on the web and verify that the messages 
are located there in duplicate.


If they are, then go into your groups.google account and check the 
settings.  Maybe turn off emails for a day then turn it back on. 
(guessing).


If they aren't, then the problem is between GMail and your mail 
client.  Go check all the settings in each.  Make sure you're not 
telling it to leave mail unmarked as read, or re-reading things or 
something.


I am using a G3 iBook 366ghz with 576mb ram, running 10.4.11 Also 
using G5 iMac 2.0ghz with 2gb ram running 10.4.11, using Yahoo Mail 
both machines


Your return email address here is @gmail, not yahoo!   And the full 
headers show a direct path, Gmail to Groups.  How exactly is Yahoo 
Mail involved?


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Re: Motherboard and Memory Questions on recovered DAFir

[Albert Carter]

Mark,

 First thing I notice with this information is that the memory cannot 
possibly be all original. Just looking at the report on the RAM that is in the 
2 populated slots you have 2 totally different speeds and latency types of 
memory. Granted I come from a PC World mostly and just dabble in Macs, but in a 
PC this would cause problems including it not being able to recognize the 
memory (Anyone know if this is true for Macs?). The other thing is you have 4 
slots and if all are filled with 512MB you should be seeing 2 GB of total RAM. 
Since the computer is recognizing just 2 slots I would do the following. Remove 
all memory and then test 1 stick in all 4 slots and see if it is recognized in 
all 4 slots. Move onto the next stick and do the same. You can also record what 
the computer detects each individual stick as so you can have that for your 
records. I suspect you have 4 different types of RAM and that's confusing the 
computer.


Thank You,
Albert




From: smac0031 
To: G-Group 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 9:39 AM
Subject: Motherboard  and Memory Questions on recovered DA

I was able to get my DA G4 operational again by replacing the power
supply.

I have noticed something odd. The machine has all its memory slots
filled with 512 sticks. I am 99% sure they are the original sticks
from the machine from before the power outage. I tested them in
another machine and they all tested out OK.

Now with these sticks back in the DA About This Mac is showing only
one GB of memory when there are 1.5 GB installed and before the power
outage it showed 1.5 GB. About this Mac shows each slot as:

DIMM0/J21:

  Size:    Empty
  Type:    Empty
  Speed:    Empty
  Status:    Empty

DIMM1/J22:

  Size:    512 MB
  Type:    SDRAM
  Speed:    PC100-322S
  Status:    OK

DIMM2/J23:

  Size:    512 MB
  Type:    SDRAM
  Speed:    PC133-333
  Status:    OK

DIMM3/J24:

  Size:    Empty
  Type:    Empty
  Speed:    Empty
  Status:    Empty

The machine only has three slots and they are all filled. Part of the
problem is I never checked this far into this before this problem so I
can't say for certain what has changed other than the machine always
showed 1.5GB.

I thought the 133Mhz machine couldn't use, if I am reading this
correctly, PC-100 ram.

Something similar to this happened on the Dual Processor G4 I used for
a couple of days before it died. It had 2GB of ram. When I checked it
it showed only 1.5 GB. As I used it I would occasionally come across a
"Memory Failure" statement or it would say memory failed. It wasn't a
system error. I can't say what I was doing when I came across this
statement. Anyway, a day or two later the Dual Processor G4 quit
working. The power light would come on but It wouldn't boot. This
machine had a broken USB port that some idiot broke at work.

I am thinking maybe this is what killed the Dual Processor. I can't
say for sure, but I am guessing that the motherboard in the Dual
Processor is dead.

I tried all this ram in a third machine and It liked all of it. It
handled the 2GB from the Dual Processor and the 1.5GB from the DA. I
thought I was very careful to keep these sticks straight and together,
but it is possible I could have mixed them. I don't think so.

What could be going on here? I am I looking at a possible motherboard
failure in the DA? It doesn't look like it would be very hard to
change.

I thought about getting another motherboard for the Dual Processor,
but even the used ones a expensive.

Mark Murphy


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SIIG Ultra ATA-133 Failure

[smac0031]

I discovered why my SIIG Ultra ATA-133 card quit working.

I picked up the computer it was formerly in to move it and head
something rolling around. At first I thought it was a loose screw.

I found a little cylinder rolling around. It was about a half inch
long and a quarter inch in diameter. I think it is a capacitor. At
first I thought something had fallen off this computer but I looked at
the SIIG card and there is a void where this thing plugs into.

I am not sure how it is supposed to be aligned. It has a stripe down
one side and all the other capacitors are facing the same way.

I am wondering if it is worth trying to solder this back on. I don't
know if my opinion of this card is improved now that I know that
something has fallen off of it and that is the most likely reason it
doesn't work and it's not really a piece of crap.

Mark Murphy

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Re: Duplication

[Albert Carter]

Ron,

 I do not believe this is a problem with this particular list I think the 
problem is specific to Yahoo. I receive duplicate emails using Yahoo with this 
list, Yahoo Lists, and other lists. I also receive duplicates from friends or 
people emailing me directly. With me its a sparse thing (It doesn't happen on 
every email). I would suggest you check with Yahoo or try using a different 
email provider to narrow this down. Also, since you are receiving duplicates of 
every email I would suggest that you check that you don't have multiple 
subscriptions to other email accounts that might be forwarding to your Yahoo 
email.


Thanks,
Albert




From: ainsies 
To: G-Group 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 8:31 AM
Subject: Duplication

G'day to all
Thought I would give this another try

Approx. five months ago I posted that I was receiving double, & treble
copies of ALL emails from this group, which was filling my inbox in a
big way. At that time Dan replied that Google would fix this little
error, so not to worry about it.

Well as I have said this was five months ago, and I am still receiving
all these extra copies of every email from the group.

Does anyone else have this problem, or is it just me, and if it is
only me, would anyone know of a remedy ?

I am using a G3 iBook 366ghz with 576mb ram, running 10.4.11
Also using G5 iMac 2.0ghz with 2gb ram running 10.4.11, using Yahoo
Mail both machines

Regards - Ron

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Motherboard and Memory Questions on recovered DA

[smac0031]

I was able to get my DA G4 operational again by replacing the power
supply.

I have noticed something odd. The machine has all its memory slots
filled with 512 sticks. I am 99% sure they are the original sticks
from the machine from before the power outage. I tested them in
another machine and they all tested out OK.

Now with these sticks back in the DA About This Mac is showing only
one GB of memory when there are 1.5 GB installed and before the power
outage it showed 1.5 GB. About this Mac shows each slot as:

DIMM0/J21:

  Size: Empty
  Type: Empty
  Speed:Empty
  Status:   Empty

DIMM1/J22:

  Size: 512 MB
  Type: SDRAM
  Speed:PC100-322S
  Status:   OK

DIMM2/J23:

  Size: 512 MB
  Type: SDRAM
  Speed:PC133-333
  Status:   OK

DIMM3/J24:

  Size: Empty
  Type: Empty
  Speed:Empty
  Status:   Empty

The machine only has three slots and they are all filled. Part of the
problem is I never checked this far into this before this problem so I
can't say for certain what has changed other than the machine always
showed 1.5GB.

I thought the 133Mhz machine couldn't use, if I am reading this
correctly, PC-100 ram.

Something similar to this happened on the Dual Processor G4 I used for
a couple of days before it died. It had 2GB of ram. When I checked it
it showed only 1.5 GB. As I used it I would occasionally come across a
"Memory Failure" statement or it would say memory failed. It wasn't a
system error. I can't say what I was doing when I came across this
statement. Anyway, a day or two later the Dual Processor G4 quit
working. The power light would come on but It wouldn't boot. This
machine had a broken USB port that some idiot broke at work.

I am thinking maybe this is what killed the Dual Processor. I can't
say for sure, but I am guessing that the motherboard in the Dual
Processor is dead.

I tried all this ram in a third machine and It liked all of it. It
handled the 2GB from the Dual Processor and the 1.5GB from the DA. I
thought I was very careful to keep these sticks straight and together,
but it is possible I could have mixed them. I don't think so.

What could be going on here? I am I looking at a possible motherboard
failure in the DA? It doesn't look like it would be very hard to
change.

I thought about getting another motherboard for the Dual Processor,
but even the used ones a expensive.

Mark Murphy


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Duplication

[ainsies]

G'day to all
Thought I would give this another try

Approx. five months ago I posted that I was receiving double, & treble
copies of ALL emails from this group, which was filling my inbox in a
big way. At that time Dan replied that Google would fix this little
error, so not to worry about it.

Well as I have said this was five months ago, and I am still receiving
all these extra copies of every email from the group.

Does anyone else have this problem, or is it just me, and if it is
only me, would anyone know of a remedy ?

I am using a G3 iBook 366ghz with 576mb ram, running 10.4.11
Also using G5 iMac 2.0ghz with 2gb ram running 10.4.11, using Yahoo
Mail both machines

Regards - Ron

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Re: Good time machine alternative for Tiger on a DA 733

[Brian Christmas]

On 14/03/2011, at 11:07 PM, faithie999 wrote:

> with ccc, can you do a full restore from a dated backup as you can
> with time machine?  would be great if you could.  from the FAQ on
> their website, it's clear you can restore individual files from a
> dated backup, but it is silent on doing a full restore.  guess you
> could select all the files in the restore dialog?
> 
> On Mar 13, 11:19 pm, Brian Christmas  wrote:
>> On 14/03/2011, at 2:14 PM, Scotty wrote:
>> 
>>> Does anyone have a suggestion for a good alternative to time machine
>>> that will run on my DA 733mhz Power Mac?
>> 
>>> My old quicksilver ran 10.5 and I am just looking for something that
>>> can perform a similar function as time machine on Leopard.
>> 
>> Carbon Copy Cloner, and set it for incremental backups every hour or so.
>> 
>> http://www.bombich.com/
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Santa

G'day faithie

CCC does a full, bootable copy of your disk, dependant on how you set it up.

It is a dated backup in the sense that it's a copy of the hard drive at the 
moment you back up to another disk.

It's free, so download and see.

Regards

Santa

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Re: Good time machine alternative for Tiger on a DA 733

[faithie999]

with ccc, can you do a full restore from a dated backup as you can
with time machine?  would be great if you could.  from the FAQ on
their website, it's clear you can restore individual files from a
dated backup, but it is silent on doing a full restore.  guess you
could select all the files in the restore dialog?

On Mar 13, 11:19 pm, Brian Christmas  wrote:
> On 14/03/2011, at 2:14 PM, Scotty wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have a suggestion for a good alternative to time machine
> > that will run on my DA 733mhz Power Mac?
>
> > My old quicksilver ran 10.5 and I am just looking for something that
> > can perform a similar function as time machine on Leopard.
>
> Carbon Copy Cloner, and set it for incremental backups every hour or so.
>
> http://www.bombich.com/
>
> Regards
>
> Santa

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Re: Radeon 9600 from G5 ­ possible upgrade for G4?

[pdimage]

On 14/03/2011 05:51, "Mac User #330250"  wrote:

> Why tape the pins 3&11, if this card doesn't feature ADC?

The taping is required for any 8x agp card to work in any 2x/4x agp capable
mac with adc connectors. These pins were unused in the 2x/4x agp spec  but
brought into use for the 8x spec - meanwhile Apple had 'borrowed' these two
connections for their proprietary ADC spec. Resulting in the strange AGP Pro
design and the fact that no mac with adc will boot with an 8x agp card
installed unless these pins are isolated. So the feature is in the mobo agp
slot rather than the card.
Another point to note is that isolating these two pins 'forces' the card
to work at 4x agp even in an 8x slot and there are many flashed cards around
which will work in G4 or G5 agp slots without the taping because the
connections to the pins 3 and 11 have been severed. So though the taping is
no longer required the card is 'hobbled' to 4x agp. In an 8x capable G5 the
card performance is halved..not too clever. So if you have a G5 and buy
an 8x agp card like a Radeon 9800 Pro that claims G4/G5 compatibility but
does not require the taping..bewarethe card is hobbled. Can be
dehobbled but that's a finicky job.


Pete


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