Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?

2012-01-02 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: USB 3 Devices on USB 2 Ports

2011-12-20 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: What is the Highest OSX a Digital Audio G4 can run?

2011-10-14 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

2011-02-18 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: MDD problem

2011-02-13 Thread Baha Ata
on the mobo is lit. > > The last thing I did was replace the single DIMM I left in and connect > another disk. Nothing looks burnt as far as I can see. Are there more > options before I send my PSU in for an overhaul? > > Thanks again, Jörg. > > On 12 feb, 13:28, Baha Ata w

Re: MDD problem

2011-02-12 Thread Baha Ata
d money if I send my PSU in for repair? I have to get another > MDD?? > > Best regards, Jörg. > > On 12 feb, 05:23, Baha Ata wrote: > > it is... sometimes... you may look 3 yellow capacitors on the board... i > > wish to have pictures... those are rectangle plactic cover y

Re: MDD problem

2011-02-11 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: MDD problem

2011-02-11 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: Powermac G4 mdd dual Strange noise???

2011-02-11 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: MDD problem

2011-02-03 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: SATA upgrade for my Quicksilver 2002

2011-01-26 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

2010-11-02 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

2010-11-02 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: Anti-virus for Mac

2010-11-02 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

2010-11-01 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: HDD Disposal & Data Security

2010-10-17 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: HD thermal sensor tape ?

2010-08-29 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: MacBook Pro battery

2010-07-27 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-13 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-13 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-11 Thread Baha Ata
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I need advice on esata external

2010-05-13 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: Is a powerPC G4 really powerful?

2010-05-10 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: File Recovery

2010-04-28 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: File Recovery

2010-04-28 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: I have an idea...

2010-04-20 Thread Baha Ata
hmmm... thanks for that i will try on my 9600 2010/4/21 Doug McNutt : > At 04:49 +0300 4/21/10, Baha Ata wrote: >>And why not make a Firefox browser for Mac OS 9... > > Are you, and everyone else, aware of Classilla? > <http://www.floodgap.com/software/classilla/> > &g

Re: I have an idea...

2010-04-20 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: OT; Apple in negotiation with AMD ?

2010-04-17 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: OT; Apple in negotiation with AMD ?

2010-04-17 Thread Baha Ata
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I got a pismo g3 400 for a project, your thoughts and help welcomed.

2010-04-09 Thread Baha Ata
this CPU (ofcourse no possiblity i guess Hi-def) Thanks. -- Baha Ata -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our

Re: Best OS for MDD (Possible OT)

2010-04-06 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: Seeking editors or contributors for PPC Applications Web Site

2010-02-20 Thread Baha Ata
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Seeking editors or contributors for PPC Applications Web Site

2010-02-20 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: 10.5 on a G5

2010-02-19 Thread Baha Ata
hat doesn't work is PPC 10.5.8, > Anyone that can do it please tell me how. I've been at this for a long > time:-) > > John Carmonne > Yorba Linda USA > > > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G

Re: Downgrade from iMac/10.6 to PM G5/10.5

2010-02-15 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: Transfering files

2010-02-08 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: G4 Mac OS 10.3 to 10.4 or 10.5?

2010-01-17 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: OS 9.2.2 -- is there a way to use modern inkjet (Lexmark 9500 series) ?

2010-01-07 Thread Baha Ata
it is G4 350, limit of Tiger recommendation... Definetly disable spotlight and dashboard. 2010/1/7 Bruce Johnson > > On Jan 7, 2010, at 5:41 AM, Baha Ata wrote: > > i recommend 10.3 with 1.5 GB Ram or at least 756 Ram. >> > > > > Recommending 10.3 for any b

Re: OS 9.2.2 -- is there a way to use modern inkjet (Lexmark 9500 series) ?

2010-01-07 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: Firewire ports stop working?

2009-12-30 Thread Baha Ata
n Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.g

Re: Large format printer

2009-12-22 Thread Baha Ata
rticular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.

Re: Leopard or Tiger?

2009-12-07 Thread Baha Ata
com/group/g3-5-list > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is

Re: Leopard or Tiger?

2009-12-07 Thread Baha Ata
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Re: Data Recovery Part 2

2009-11-15 Thread Baha Ata
t http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > -- Baha

Re: Data Recovery Part 2

2009-11-15 Thread Baha Ata
articular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at >

Re: Data Recovery Part 2

2009-11-14 Thread Baha Ata
at > http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > -- Baha Ata -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and o

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-12 Thread Baha Ata
cus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.g

Re: Data Recovery Part 2

2009-11-12 Thread Baha Ata
G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For mor

Re: Data Recovery Part 2

2009-11-12 Thread Baha Ata
> those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegr

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-10 Thread Baha Ata
hmmm... i might try it... if i can... i will report it 2009/11/11 Bruce Johnson > > > On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Baha Ata wrote: > > > Any PC software that can backup Apple's from PC? For networks... it > > will be > > my last question. > > Big ent

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-10 Thread Baha Ata
gt; > -- > Bruce Johnson > University of Arizona > College of Pharmacy > Information Technology Group > > Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs > > > > > > -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-10 Thread Baha Ata
are there any good if not better alternatives for Time Machine? 2009/11/10 Bruce Johnson > > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Dan wrote: > > > > > At 12:14 AM +0200 11/10/2009, Baha Ata wrote: > >> I use Time Machine with 24 hours backup intervals with 1.5 TB >

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-10 Thread Baha Ata
Perfomance problems, other than that... i tried small restores... i never tried full restore... There are other people probably here might have deeper experiences... I was generally type of guy until last disaster of mine 2009/11/10 Dan > > At 12:14 AM +0200 11/10/2009, Baha Ata wrote

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-09 Thread Baha Ata
ite temp & > humidity sensitive. > > >A bit too far you think > > No. Sounds like a decent strategy to me. > > Everyone should keep a set of backups off-site; even if it's just > stashed in a friend's sock draw

Re: Backups? !!!

2009-11-09 Thread Baha Ata
> No. Sounds like a decent strategy to me. > > Everyone should keep a set of backups off-site; even if it's just > stashed in a friend's sock drawer. > > - Dan. > -- > - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. > > > > -- Baha Ata --~--~--

Re: NTFS formatted carry to Sawtooth

2009-10-12 Thread Baha Ata
lems of loosing data, or > reformatting? Thanks a lot! > > > > -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus

Re: icons

2009-10-07 Thread Baha Ata
vance > roger > > > > -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.

Re: Return to PowerPC?

2009-07-07 Thread Baha Ata
mid-noughties. The problems that caused its creation were > unrelated to those that caused its demise. > > -- > Liam Proven • Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven > Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com > Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cel

Re: SATA card for a G4 AGP?

2009-06-15 Thread Baha Ata
e > > == > Joe the Juggler > 4148 Wyoming St. > St. Louis, MO 63116 > (314) 771-3243 > http://joethejuggler.com > == > > > > > > > -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~

Re: The powerpc now and in the future....

2009-06-11 Thread Baha Ata
t; Now we need the opposite emulator, the one that will allow future > Intel x86 only code to run on our PPC Macs. I doubt this will ever > exist, but it would certainly be welcomed. > > > > -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message

Re: The powerpc now and in the future....

2009-06-11 Thread Baha Ata
. > > Never mind the mid-level machines, > > Anyway Debian will not abandon the powerpc, only their owners can do > that. > > > > > -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac

Re: PowerBook or MacBook

2009-05-31 Thread Baha Ata
f Snow Leopard only run on MacIntel > > machines. Second thing is Apples talk of cleaning up the code and > > making it small & fast. I'd say that does tilt the odds to Apple > > removing the PPC code. However if they wanted to they could make a > > version that runs

Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

2009-05-28 Thread Baha Ata
eo won't play > smooth on my 1.58 GHz Mini under Leopard. > > > > > -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - wit

Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

2009-05-28 Thread Baha Ata
tiger... 2009/5/29 Baha Ata > totally agree with bruce... if you have desktop eaven i recçommend if you > need consider graphic card and ram upgrade... it will give you a good > machine and it jill be on time. > > 2009/5/29 Bruce Johnson > > >> >> On May 28, 200

Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

2009-05-28 Thread Baha Ata
> Bruce Johnson > University of Arizona > College of Pharmacy > Information Technology Group > > Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs > > > > > > -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscri

Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

2009-05-28 Thread Baha Ata
, it's perfectly fine. > > It may be "fine", but what advantages does Leopard offer other than a > buggy, unreliable backup (Time Machine), and . . . Spaces? > > I bet you can't play video smoothly? Full resolution video won't play > sm

Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

2009-05-28 Thread Baha Ata
, it's perfectly fine. > > It may be "fine", but what advantages does Leopard offer other than a > buggy, unreliable backup (Time Machine), and . . . Spaces? > > I bet you can't play video smoothly? Full resolution video won't play > sm

Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

2009-05-28 Thread Baha Ata
28 artemis > > . . . but don't bother spending the money! > > On your PPC machine it'll just sloow everything down by 20% or > more. > > 10.5 is optimised for Intel Macs and will make yours run like treacle. > > > -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~--

Re: OS 10.5

2009-05-23 Thread Baha Ata
e. See yours in just 2 easy > steps!<http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585033x1201462753/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=115%26bcd=Mayfooter52309NO115> > * > > > > -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---

Re: Anyone update to 10.5.7 yet? Also a Security update for 10.4.11

2009-05-13 Thread Baha Ata
wnloaded and written to a DVD), and > > 10.4.11 had the security update applied, perfectly as well. > > > > 10.4.11 is this computer's normal system, and it includes Classic. > > > > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a <+> A ho

Re: Which OS for 2 Handme down Machines - which one(s)? and are they worth it?

2009-05-13 Thread Baha Ata
first. I would definitely get I GB RAM for the laptop and replace the > battery, although you might want to try some of the software fixes for > batteries to see if they can revive the battery before getting a replacement > battery. > > --- On *Tue, 5/12/09, Baha Ata * wrote: > > > F

Re: Which OS for 2 Handme down Machines - which one(s)? and are they worth it?

2009-05-13 Thread Baha Ata
good powerbook 12 ich or 15.4? Powerbook 12 inch arround $400 nearly full load? Or interestingly buying one more ibook 933 from ebay cheaper? That include ram and some battery? 2009/5/13 Bruce Johnson > > > On May 12, 2009, at 8:21 PM, Baha Ata wrote: > > > For my point of vie

Re: Anyone update to 10.5.7 yet?

2009-05-13 Thread Baha Ata
quot;SLA" connectivity? I didn't > think Apple was so saavy/picky. > > I see the upgrades on the Apple site ... I have 10.5.6 on my QS > 2002 ... is the Combo the way to go? > > Anyone having any problems on a PPC G4? being that 10.5

Re: Which OS for 2 Handme down Machines - which one(s)? and are they worth it?

2009-05-12 Thread Baha Ata
any bucks on that ibook 933 gives back nothing other than problems with iMac G5. Who gets which computer, what system, mine is slower get me other problems? :) 2009/5/12 Marty Levine : > > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Baha Ata wrote: >> >> For G5 10.5, For ibook definetely 1

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread Baha Ata
can i barrow from my neighbour :)" Please ask these question to Apple Ask that could you use internet to get the copy of it? Not public server? That is the end. I guess. 2009/5/12 joe : > > > On May 12, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Baha Ata wrote: >>  So... Do u really catch the >>

Re: Which OS for 2 Handme down Machines - which one(s)? and are they worth it?

2009-05-12 Thread Baha Ata
e he would be better off selling > the iBook, upgrade the iMac and have a better experience with his > "new" Mac? > > Thanks for your recommendations - Marty > > > > -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message becaus

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread Baha Ata
allotted or belonging to or contributed or owed by an individual or group. 2009/5/12 Baha Ata : > please look meanings of LEND or redistribute. It is not same meaning > giving the install cd to  someone that has the right using that cd... > It is not meaning giving that cd to someone that has

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread Baha Ata
op it. Admit it or not admit it. As long as you use it like that IT IS LEGAL. 2009/5/12 Dan : > > At 5:50 PM +0300 5/12/09, Baha Ata wrote: >> >>You have the right to have the orginal manufactured disc of that computer. > > Correct. > > An *original physical disc*.  Not

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread Baha Ata
ut it.. Whatever you may thing out there, but belive me i am shocked that i have never been in USA and probably know more than general of you about rules and obligations about your country. Thanks again. I am hussed. 2009/5/12 joe : > > > On May 11, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Baha Ata wrote: >

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread Baha Ata
Thanks anway. I am sorry that i misguide the topic another point. Thanks everyone. 2009/5/12 joe : > > > On May 11, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Baha Ata wrote: > >> Yes above one of my post i state that they may use OEM license... for >> one install.. > > And it's alrea

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread Baha Ata
public open area), it is not problem. Because you lost your computer disc. IT IS LEGAL. Please read rules and laws before belaming legal things in to illegal. You see every one potentional illegal that use internet? 2009/5/12 joe : > > > On May 12, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Baha Ata wrote: > >

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread Baha Ata
please 2009/5/12 Dan : > > At 11:46 PM +0300 5/11/09, Baha Ata wrote: >>Uploader putting his disc on backup purposes for futere downloading >>his backup copy. Do you catch the idea? >> >>Thats the logic. They legitimize. For example you bought a Lord of the >>

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread Baha Ata
please do not add what i have never said... as i mentioned... share? what u share? share legal backuop :) if any file you find there illegal, you warn them they erase... :) 2009/5/12 Dan : > > At 11:46 PM +0300 5/11/09, Baha Ata wrote: >>Uploader putting his disc on backup purpose

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread Baha Ata
: > > > On May 11, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Baha Ata wrote: > >> Joe... infact you are right in point of view... but rapidshare and >> magaupload like sites use that... It is like that you may copy your >> version on a backup and put somewhere for backup purposes. As long as >

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-12 Thread Baha Ata
As long as you have the machine (For Apple or any OEM Licensed Computer) you may download and install... You do not commiting crime... Upload may... :) 2009/5/12 joe : > > > On May 11, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Baha Ata wrote: > >> Joe... infact you are right in point of view...

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-11 Thread Baha Ata
t; check. >> > >> > Third - I appreciate all the responses! >> > >> > Jeff >> > >> >> From: j...@joethejuggler.com >> >> Subject: Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4 >> >> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 18:38:50 -0500 >>

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-11 Thread Baha Ata
I appreciate all the responses! > > Jeff > >> From: j...@joethejuggler.com >> Subject: Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4 >> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 18:38:50 -0500 >> To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >> >> >> >> On May 11, 2009, at 3:46 PM

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-11 Thread Baha Ata
th those disks or stop selling > machines with that OS installed on it.  I'll bet in their > descriptions of the computer they are selling them with OS whatever. > If that's the case, they're breaking the license agreement if they > don't provide a set of disks with e

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-11 Thread Baha Ata
make illegal means not being illegal, or we are all illegal... I wish my English is enough for clear out. But not rapdishare or any other share services are illegal if you do not use them illegal way. Thats the idea! 2009/5/12 joe : > > > On May 11, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Baha Ata wrote: > &g

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-11 Thread Baha Ata
05-11 at 15:59 -0400, Dan wrote: >> At 2:43 PM -0500 5/11/09, joe wrote: >> >On May 11, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Dan wrote: >> >  > Let's be clear here.  Apple's licensing is VERY specific. >> >>  <http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/> >> > >

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-11 Thread Baha Ata
;>>  from a friend or a copy CD. > > NO.  You may NOT borrow. > > The license says: > 3. Transfer. You may not rent, lease, lend, redistribute or > sublicense the Apple Software. > > Operative words there:  NOT and LEND. > >>  > 2009/5/11 Baha Ata : >

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-11 Thread Baha Ata
ue >>>  from a friend or a copy CD. > > NO.  You may NOT borrow. > > The license says: > 3. Transfer. You may not rent, lease, lend, redistribute or > sublicense the Apple Software. > > Operative words there:  NOT and LEND. > >>  > 2009/5/11 Baha Ata

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-11 Thread Baha Ata
gt;> from a friend or a copy CD. >> >> Above it, you must have license or orginal CD. >> >> 2009/5/11 Baha Ata : >> > I mean, what the computer had when its produced as system is legal for >> > Apple. Some folks misunderstood it. Other versions need licen

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-11 Thread Baha Ata
are piracy. > > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Stephen Weber wrote: >> >> Bruce, a respocible computer maker will provide the system restore cds >> if the customer lost them.  At least its a option he can do. >> >> On 5/8/09, Bruce Jo

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-11 Thread Baha Ata
orginal CD. 2009/5/11 Baha Ata : > I mean, what the computer had when its produced as system is legal for > Apple. Some folks misunderstood it. Other versions need license. I > think dual 866 machines using orginally 10.3 > > 2009/5/11 Baha Ata : >> Sorry but it is not codswallop.

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-11 Thread Baha Ata
PC Live CD (you don't necessarily need to install >> Ubuntu, it will run "live" from the CD): >> >> <http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/jaunty/release/> > > > Hotmail® goes with you. Get it on your BlackBerry or iPhone

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-11 Thread Baha Ata
I mean, what the computer had when its produced as system is legal for Apple. Some folks misunderstood it. Other versions need license. I think dual 866 machines using orginally 10.3 2009/5/11 Baha Ata : > Sorry but it is not codswallop. > > Simple, if you have a Apple compute

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-11 Thread Baha Ata
compatibility... Ram, Mhz, Model... 2009/5/9 Bruce Johnson : > > > On May 8, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Baha Ata wrote: > >> >> rapdishare.com :) license look up apple retail stores... you may >> declare your copy of orjinal system.. what is the production system >> from App

Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4

2009-05-08 Thread Baha Ata
gt; - is this true? > > Thanks! > > > Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. See how. > > > -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for

Re: Erase a drive to sell

2009-04-07 Thread Baha Ata
that backed > > up! Betcha won't do THAT again!", but that still leaves folks without > > those irreplaceable things. > > > > This is why people come running out of burning/flooding/collapsing > > buildings clutching their photo albums. Me, I'm coming out cl

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