Re: MDD Dual G4 Startup woes
On 09/06/2015 05:46, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: I have a dual G4 MDD with a startup problem. It¹s been ³finicky² for a while, requiring holding the power button for a few seconds to start up and not a soft touch at that; when I say ³holding² I mean *holding*/*pushing* hard so upon returning home from the long Memorial Day weekend I decided to open it up and give it a thorough cleaning of the dust and dirt and cat hair. But when I went to start it I got only a brief flicker of the power button light beforeŠnothing. And subsequent attempts don¹t even generate that much activity. My guess would be PS with the gradual fail and current lack of response - shouldn't be too expensive to try another though... Pete -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Replacement for Quicksilver G4 Superdrive
On 20/04/2015 11:39, William Tomcanin wt8091...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone manually cleaned the laser lens on their DVD drive? I'm tempted at this point to remove the drive, take it apart and attempt to clean it manually until a replacement arrives. I understand that the lenses on the original Pioneer 103 DVR drives must be immaculate in order for them to work properly. Bill Hi, Yes I've done that with many of the optical drives I've had over the years - alcohol on a cotton bud will usually do the trick for just cleaning the lens. An associated problem with age is focus drift errors on the lens - I had this problem with an Xbox dvd player - fortunately there are screw adjustments available for the laser lens focus and a fiddle with these fixed my problem. I would recommend googling for some kind of tutorial first though as you need to be able to reverse your chosen adjustment back to it's original position if it's the wrong one and before you attempt another. Pete -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Text display on TV problem
On 20/04/2015 10:56, geraldcornish geraldcorn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all I need to create a version of a booklet for display on flat screen tv (not HD) and having trouble making text visible - it displays as broken lumps mostly undecipherable. I am exporting spreads from InDesign to VIDEO_TS folder as jpegs and burning this to cd. Is there another way I can get clear text on the tv screen? This is a PAL system, could it be a tv screen resolution problem? If so, can I get around it? TIA Ged Hi, It's some years ago since I used such software but as I remember InDesign is vector (postscript) and the jpeg format is for rasterised images - if you have Pshop you could export the spreads from InDesign as pdf and then raster them into Pshop to vary the resolution and then save them as high quality jpegs and try that. The resolution needs to be high-ish to get typefaces to appear clearly - possibly between 180 and 360ppi to get somewhere near the legibility of a pdf. Not sure what the tv screen will make of it as this is down to the dot pitch resolution of the tv but many modern screens/dvd players have the ability to convert from mpeg and jpeg on the fly now and can adapt to various resolutions and frame rates instantly. Not sure it can be a cd though - shouldn't it be dvd for video_ts? Pete -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Cellphone and my G4
Often PPC macs require a third party app to enable syncing. The ones made by the manufacturer of the phone would usually not work. I used to use pocket mac for my blackberries but each app IIR had to support the specific phone you were using? -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Using AGP 8x card in AGP 4x ADC compatible slot
On 06/01/2014 23:51, Manoah F. Adams mhfad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm trying to upgrade my Quicksilver 2001 800DP video from the stock nVidia GeForce2 MX 32MB card to an nVidia FX 5500 (8x AGP). After finding that it wouldn't boot with the new card (that is not even into firmware stage), I found and followed the tutorial at Mac Elite (http://themacelite.wikidot.com/pins-3-and-11) -- specifically, by taping pins 3 and 11. Now, it appears to boot, but without any video output (monitor doesn't receive any signals, stays/goes asleep). I don't have handy any alternative hardware to test the video card separately (to check for damage there to, though it's a new card) or to check for output from the DVI port, etc. I know my machine is still okay as I'm using it this moment (with the old video card). Has anyone else been down this path before? I've tried web searches, but always seem to wind up back at that article. Hi, The nVidia FX series are not the easiest to adapt for mac and usually have no dvi when flashed unless they are very specific cards like the Ultra FX 5200 128MB and even then may be subject to problems depending on the manufacturer. The original Radeon 9800 pro series with bga ram is probably the easiest to convert - but not the later cheap imports with slow tsop ram and only half the memory width. If the 5500 is not already flashed to mac by using a pc then you will need to use a VNC client and another mac on the network to flash it - Chicken of the VNC is a widely used client for macor use Graphiccelerator in your startup items preloaded with a mac rom for the 5500. If the pins are unsuccessfully taped the mac will not boot at all - if the pins are taped well and the mac boots but no video the rom is not successfully read and loaded by the mac - zapping the pram/nvram may cure it but if it doesn't it's back to the drawing board - and a different rom. The best way is to flash it with dos in a pc before using it in a mac - there used to be a forum named strangedogs which a had a large flashing community though you will have to join to search it if they are still in existence. Pete -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: reusing my thesis
Glad you got it sorted, but couldn't your university's library just scanned it and e-mailed it to you??? -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: ios7 growing pains
On 25/09/2013 21:47, Peter Devlin pdim...@mail.com wrote: I should add that the iphones I have updated to ios7 are not new - both are the iphone 4 so it was a surprise that they would no longer connect to the itunes 10 in Leopard they previously had no problem with as all backups, playlists, apps etc were suddenly defunct with no warning. Fortunately my daughter has a windows netbook so that has now become the iphone communicator. I can think of no particular reason why apple would remove support for itunes 10 with ios7 - applying force to the upgrade path perhaps..more dosh? - laughable really. I also have an old cast off 3gs which I still use as an ipod/satnav - it can't be upgraded to ios7 so it retains it's friendship with itunes 10 - the only snag with it is that it needs a sim installed before it will do anything at all - luckily they're free and enable the 3gs to operate even if the sim is not activated. Pete in the cont UK where there seem to be no lem swaps... -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Activity monitor shows CPU running at 100% all the time....
On 25/09/2013 13:54, spilrules t...@tomstock.us wrote: Recently I noticed the fan running at full speed for quite some time on my G4 powerbook 12 1.33 mhz which I thought was unusual as it did not seem to run very long in the past. I checked the activity monitor under utilities and discovered that the CPU was running at 100% all the time and the activity monitor shows up all green in color. The computer works fine in all ways except that the fan is running most of the time now to apparently cool the processor? I have checked it many times and even when the computer is first turned on the activity monitor still shows the processor at 100% and soon the fan will kick in. I ran the Apple hardware test on it and everything passed. Is this a sign of impending doom? Should I stop using it or reduce the amount of time it is running? Any advice is greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance for all who respond! Tom I suppose the crucial info is the cpu temp - on my dual 1.25 MD the fan kicks into overdrive around 57 degrees - the istat widget will provide you with an alternative set of stats including temp and cpu usage - as I write this it is showing the cpu as 93% idle at 55 degrees. There are other temp/usage guages out there... Pete -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: ios7 growing pains
On 25/09/2013 16:33, Don Wakefield dtp...@yahoo.com wrote: Since my eMac 125 is relegated to iTunes 10 as the maximum, and since Apple has dictated iTunes 11 or greater to be the only versions able to communicate with my newly installed ios7 on my phone, I am at a loss to figure how to get individual mp3s or play lists from my desktop to my phone. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Don Wakefield DTPetc! (DeskTop Productions et cetera!) Ballwin, Missouri, USA Hi, I don't think there's any way at the momentI also have two iPhones updated to ios7 but only an emac 1.25 and a mirrored door dual 1.25 to connect them to - neither iTunes nor Bluetooth works on either with ios7 - guess we've been cast off - almost bought a G5 quad - glad I didn't now cos that is incompatible with ios7 too. Maybe someone will come up with a workaround Old Mac Pete in the UK -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: ios7 growing pains
On 25/09/2013 18:24, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Yes, there's a workaround: Buy a newer Mac more often than every ten years 8-P I saw a MacBook Pro in the swap list today capable of running the latest version of iTunes for $250. That eMac is now 8 years, nearly 4 OS version and one architecture switch old. It's time for a newer computerŠat least for iTunes and synching your iPhone. Seriously, you can pick up Macs capable of running iTunes 11 for very nearly a song these days, as it's essentially any intel-based Mac. Apple switched to Intel in 2006; it's now 2013. Time to upgradeŠ You raced out and upgraded your three year-or-less-old phone right away to the LatestGreatest OSŠwhy not upgrade your Mac as well. If you HAVE to have a PowerPC mac for old software purposes, keep the old ones aroundŠthere's no law about 'only one mac per person' :-) H, The phones are not mine - one is my wife's and one is my daughter's - I have never had a use for a mobile phone since they looked liked bricks - and my racing days are over - I merely upgraded their phones for them to ios7. As for the macs it's not the age ( I have some very old macs) or the architecture it's the software I own - to update my software to intel would be - wellexpensive - and I am now retired so it earns me nothing in return. Lastly I would consider $250 plus shipping to the UK plus import taxes and VAT to be very excessive for the sole privelege of running iTunes 11 to sync someone else's phone. But then again one man's meatcheaper by far to get an aged windows pc running Vista - seemingly not cast off by ios7 Pete in the UK -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Quicksilver- Graphics card won't go in Tab Slot
On 01/08/2013 16:46, TriumphNut rbt...@owc.net wrote: I have two quicksilvers. The one with the 125GB Sonnet Daughterboard went out. Think the fan Quit and it Toasted the Chip. I Pulled the Ram, the 5 port USB2 PCI card, the 4Port Firewire PCI card and the NVIDIA GeForce2 MX with 32MB of SDRAM Graphics PCI card to switch to my other Quicksilver. only problem, the Tab on the Graphics card won't go into the Slot. I've carefully bent the tab both ways and it still won't go down.The Contact Strip will go in fine just the outer mounting tab lacks a good quarter inch Going down. I've been going inside my Mac's since 1986 and this is the first time I've been stumped with this. I have software that won't work with my Intel Mac Pro Tower. May be forced to buy another Quicksilver on eBay. RHB If it's the green tab which just retains the back of the card just snap it off if it's a problem - I snapped mine off by accident but the card still worked just fine... Pete -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Laptop skype problem
Sounds like an overheating video card problem I used to have on my gig-Ethernet G4, except that your cursor is not affected? It could be that the Nintendo emulator, plus Skype are overtaxing it? -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: teach yourself illustrator CS3
I hate to use the G word here, but Google sketchup's Layout product is prety good for 2D CAD on a budget as well. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Spillage on keyboard - broken beyond repair?
On 17/01/2013 02:44, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: The aluminum keyboards are difficult to disassemble; they're completely glued together. It's possible to remove the keys and springs to enable a more thorough clean - here's a charming Apple ichild with a demo... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvQSj04oyeI tedious though.. Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5: 3 blinks and no boot
On 16/01/2013 18:20, Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it wrote: Of course, the high temperature of the chip - and consequent stress - only makes the problem worse. The high temp of the chip may be due to a poor solder connection - I have reflowed ball grid arrays on graphics card gpu chips which were faulty due to heat problems caused by stressed solder joints - strangely enough the stress was caused by high operating temps due to poor heat dissipation like a faulty fan or heatsink contact - sometimes the fans and vents were entirely blocked with dust bunnies and gunk. Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On 03/01/2013 11:48, Gary D. g.dea...@web.de wrote: More info: The TV has an Ethernet connection but it is too far away to string a cable. I've tried TV WLAN Router Ethernet Mini as well as TV WLAN Router built-in Airport Mini, all to no avail. I have assumed that both should work if I get things right. Is that correct? I'm in the UK and we have ethernet adaptors which run the network from the router via the 240v mains electric wiring exiting through a socket on a mains plug adapter - no cable required for a wired connection...do they have these in the US? Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On 02/01/2013 16:47, G. E. Dearth g.dea...@web.de wrote: What model TV is it? I'll bet it's looking for a particular Windows-based service, but there may be ways to use a Mac with it. Panasonic TX-L37ETW5 (may be a specific German designation but there should be a US equivalent). Would certainly appreciate finding a solution. Thanks Gary D. Shouldn't it just connect wirelessly to your router via dhcp using the wireless key - or wired if it has an ethernet port? Then it would be on the lan and accessible to the mac. Ignore me if this has been tried..late to the game. Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On 02/01/2013 18:39, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: The OP connected it to the network, it just didn't see the Mac; it was, as I surmised, because it's lookg for something other than iTunes sharing. Doesn't it work the other way either? From the mac to the tv via connect to server - it seems it does have a wired ethernet port so that may be worth trying - mind - I'm old school and don't use wireless anywaya stick in the mud old mac git. Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Follow-up: ADC - AGP video card issues for MDD and G5
On 18/12/2012 18:35, frrob fr...@earthlink.net wrote: Finally, my second question, which may be moot, but: has anyone ever tried to somehow adapt the ADC connector of one of these G5 ADC cards to the ADC connector of an MDD? It seems to me that it could be done and could work. The ADC connector only has two leads, which supply power for the display, correct? It seems to me that you might be able to come up with some kind of franken-connector or jumper that would let you go straight ADC. Anyone know anything out there? I've seen a G5 AGP Pro 8x card converted to work in a non pro G4 4x slot - not a pretty sight. But afaik the adc in the mdd has two connections in the agp slot - thus the taping of pins 3 and 11 on 8x cards which I believe in the mac slot supply power for the adc connection. In between the 4x agp mdd and the 8x agp G5 the layout of the slot was converted to agp pro design to keep adc - apple should have gone for dvi/vga at that point (had to eventually) but they have always liked to have their proprietary video connectors going way back... Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Throwing in the Towel
On 15/12/2012 16:32, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote: I bought that 9800 for a friend's G4 466mhz Tower and never used it because I couldn't flash the rom... I maxed the ram, put in a 250G 7200rpm HD (only reads 128G) and a new DVD super drive and installed Tiger. They had this 23 monitor for it and I just left the orig video card in it. I had to boot it up 3 or 4 times till the res was all the way up to it's max..? This was about 2 yrs ago and it's still working pretty good with no problems... So this left me wondering why so many put this 9800 in them??? Maybe someone here can tell me why they even use this 9800 card? When I go back to NC to visit them I'm going to download Leopard on it for them... It's because the 9800 pro was just about the fastest 4x agp card you could get for a G4 - and the easiest to convert from pc to mac with little or no problems and get all the ports working fully. Nvidia and other cards had conversion problems - no s-vid, no dvi etc but the 9800 worked 100% if flashed correctly. I flashed many cards from pc to mac but the only one I know of which is easier than the 9800 is the 8500 - much slower than the 9800, half the ram at 64 MB (or a quarter if you get a 9800 with 256) and much slower tsop ram compared to the ball grid array ram on the 9800 - only snag was the disabling of the pins 3 and 11 as Apple had commandeered them for ADC connections. http://themacelite.wikidot.com/flasher-s-buying-guide-9800 Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card
On 10/12/2012 02:41, frrob fr...@earthlink.net wrote: Hello again everyone! Again, thanks for all the feedback and suggestions. Sooner or later, when you keep banging your head against a wall, you reach a point of saying f*%k it. It's not worth the trouble. I am about at that point. I have spent almost all my free time for the last 2 days farting around with this thing. The 'not connected' diagram is only supposed to show up when there is no power to the card - so if the molex splitter is good and tests out with a hd or an optical then the problem may lie with the molex socket on the card or it's connections to the rest of the card - maybe a damaged trace or a resistor missing. Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card
I have one of these in my Gig Ethernet. Just be warned, it is sensitive to higher temps. Make sure you are cleaning out dust on a regular basis. Once you get the power issue sorted, any future video issues, your first step should be to check airflow, and temps. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 Quicksilver 2002
Hello G4 users, I have a Quicksilver G4 2002 running OSX 10.5.8 with 1.5 GB of RAM and two internal Harddisks ( 320 GB and 160 GB) installed and I use it every day. It still looks as if it came right out of the box. Last week I put in a new pram battery after 10 years ! As long as I will be able to run most of my software for surfing (using TenFourFox7450) and word processing (open office) I will continue to use it. Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Testing HD Performance RAM In MDD Under X.4 or X.5
On 16/07/2012 03:37, t...@prismnet.com t...@prismnet.com wrote: What do folks recommend to use to test RAM for defects in an MDD under 10.4 or 10.5. I guess I could boot into 9.2 and use the old standby, RAMometer. I use Memtest on my dual 1.25 MDD with 2 GB of ram and 10.5.8 - although the 2 GB is slightly more than my Memtest can cope with it's easy to test 1 GB at a time - takes about 2 hours for a full test. Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OT - How do you get a TextEdit file with half inch margins?
On 10/07/2012 03:10, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Listers, How do you get a TextEdit file with half inch margins? I have tried everything and did get a 1 inch margin, but no half inch, can you help or send an attachment (off list) of your work file. Version 1.4 on G4 10.4.11. jml I'm a designated FREE SPIRIT HITCHHIKING on the Information Super Highway === I think TextEdit has draggable tabs - the small icons on the top ruler - for the side margins and you can use simple multiple returns for the top and bottom margins - half inch would be around three 9pt or 10pt line returns to give around 36pts including line spaces. Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 MDD DVD drive compatibility; mounting HDDs in optical cage
On 29/06/2012 05:44, frrob fr...@earthlink.net wrote: Greetings! A couple of other questions: I have two DVD drives mounted in my G4 MDD. One of them, a Pioneer DVD-RW burner, is kaput. I would like to replace it with a new combo DVD-RW burner. Some such drives listed on eBay are described as pulls from either G5s or Mac Pros, or as new drives intended for those machines. Are there any compatibility issues with such drives that would preclude their use in my G4? Also, I have 3 146 GB U160 SCSI drives I would like to set up as a RAID, internally. I have the SCSI PCI card I need. What I'd like to know is, would it be possible to mount two of those drives in one of the slots for the optical drives? I don't need a DVD-RW burner and and DVD-ROM. One of the slots in the HDD cage under the optical cage is free, so it seems to me that the issues are (a) getting the drives physically mounted, and (b) getting the cabling to work. Any thoughts? Would the SCSI drives in the optical cage get adequate cooling? Thanks again for your insight and suggestions! Rob Johansen I don't think 2 x 3.5 inch hds will fit into one 5.25 inch slot - one perhaps with a little tinkering or maybe drilling for the fittings. Cooling should not be a problem as the optical bay has it's own small cooling fan. I used to have a Quicksilver with an ide drive in the zip bay... Is the other 2 x hd bay close to the processor already full? Six internal hds - three configured as a scsi raid? What are the other three ide drives for? Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Excessive fan noise - Quicksilver 2002
On 27/06/2012 11:24, William Tomcanin wt8091...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, Recently I've noticed he fan on my Quicksilver G4 has been making much more noise than usual. I periodically clean the dust out of the interior and the ventilation ports, but the noise persists.. Can anyone recommend a course of action? lubrication? replacement? Thanks, Bill I had problems with fan noise and overheating with my MDD dual 1.25 - resulted in me stripping it bare and performing certain 'modifications' - some of them to the fan and airflow. The fan had metal spider web grilles either side - I ditched the one which was screwed on and dremelled the other away to improve airflow - I also ditched the metal pci blanks. As for the fan I scrubbed it all mercilessly with a toothbrush and washing up liquid - taking care to avoid the electrical bits in the hub - and then gave the inner housing and blades several coats of heavy furniture wax polished to the best shine I could get - seemed like a good idea at the time though I would have preferred to treat it with the silicon spray I used to use in my printing days to reduce friction whilst sliding large reams of paper around on benches and loading tables. The 'modifications' reduced the noise and improved the airflow - but if the noise is wear and tear to the fan bearings only a new or replacement 120cm fan will cure that. Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: ATI agp 7500 mac or not
On 31/05/2012 16:13, Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it wrote: Certain parts of the rom are write protected if using a pc for the flashing - hence the vnc and panther - and the dvi port is kaputnice looking card though. If I got it right, after the flashing the DVI port is still operational. It just outputs an analog (not digital anymore) signal, hence just VGA monitor (using a DVI to VGA adapter). Since I still own analog (VGA) monitors, it's no problem to me. Regarding the OP question, I mentioned my X800XT just as an example about buying PC cards for cheap (and not bothering much with the 7500). I still think the Radeon 9800 could be his best option. Semantics really - I should have said the dvi signal is kaput but twin vga is possible with an adapter - though some X800 pc cards will not successfully convert to mac for unknown reasons. I remember there being a thread on strangedogs about it. The explanation of the missing dvi signal was also on strangedogs some years ago - a dim memory now The Radeon 8500 64MB (not LE or 128MB) pc card is just about the easiest conversion from pc to mac - also the 9500, 9700 and 9800 though there are many different kinds of 9800 and not all will convert. Some problem 9800 cards are pointed out at mac elite wiki - but the newer ( in some cases brand new), cheaper 9800 cards from the far east will not convert - cheap tsop vram and half the memory interface Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: ATI agp 7500 mac or not
On 31/05/2012 03:44, Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it wrote: I have a ATI Radeon 7500 128MB DDR agp card it will not work in my agp g4 400mhz. How do kown if is a mac or othercard? If it still has the white factory label on the back you can use the ATI 102 number lookup to id the card http://apps.ati.com/102lookup/ If it's a PC card, you *perhaps* might flash it with a Mac Rom. No guarantee, though. AFAIK no one ever successfully flashed a PC 7500 across to mac - some graphics cards just will not convert to mac and I think that's one of them. Maybe it would be better find a more Mac-compatible PC graphic card. Last year I got a (PC) Radeon X800XT card for just 25 pounds, and I think it might be flashed. The X800 is also problematical to convert. http://www.s155158671.websitehome.co.uk/macx800xtaqua-ma.html Certain parts of the rom are write protected if using a pc for the flashing - hence the vnc and panther - and the dvi port is kaputnice looking card though. Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
35 pass erase
Part of this needs to invoke the 1 step removed rule, but partly it is a general question as well. I have purchased my first intel, a MacPro 3.1 on eBay. There has been some delay in the shipping because the origional owner wanted to be sure of security, and ran a 35 pass erase on both HDDs, from the leopard install disk. One drive is the origional and the other is a 1TB. My understanding is that this writes 0s then 1s alternately to every drive sector for 35 passes. As this is way more than years of normal ussage would do, what can I expect for drive life out of these things. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 35 pass erase
When I first got my G4, from a coworker in 2001, he coldn't find the system disk for about a month and a half. By then, I had, been using it, and didn't want to do a nuke and pave. I still find his junk files now and then on my tiger partition. So I will be glad to have a clean start this time. Thanks for the reassurance about the drives though. As an aside, since the macpro list is dead, and the prices are comming down on the first models, and they are loosing apple support with mountain lion, they are starting to turn into LEMs, is this where we should discuss issues with them? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
On PPCs, HTML5 is a markup language for structuring and presenting content
Not to beat a dead horse, but I've spent the last two weeks rewriting my wife's web site in HTML5, on my G4. I write it in text edit, and check it in safari, ten4fox, opera, ie5, and Firefox. Well written code will render something usable on any browser, and give those flashy bits of fun on the latest browsers. Html5 and css3 could spell the death of flash, and be a serious blow to java script, but good ridence to bad rubbish! Finnaly, let's be clear, html5 is not fully implemented in any browser on any platform, thus the need for good coding practices, and backward compatability is written in to all HTML releases. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Web Browsing Woes
You might try a newer browser, like ten4fox, or Opera. It could be an issue with the encoding they are using on the font (that's the base64), or a compatibility issue with the CSS font tag. (i don't know when they implemented full support for that) In any case, check the same page in different browsers. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: ATI 7500 pc cards flash to work on g4
On 04/05/2012 05:56, Scott Stephens stauroli...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a power mac g4 and I get a ATI 7500 128 mb cards for PC my sons runs but I find A 256m for it, can I flash this card to make work in my G4, and wher can I get the rom I know apple put tne 7500 in some powermacs so a rom may be had The Radeon 7500 is not flashable to mac - no one ever succeeded as far as I know - the 9800 is the easiest flash. Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD Boot Problem
On 12/03/2012 02:03, glen glenst...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks, I sincerely appreciate the reply. Before I lay down the bucks for DW anyone else have other suggestions -glen A similar sort of thing happened to me years ago but in my case it was caused by the extended desktop prefs. My mac thought I had two monitors connected and booted to the plain blue screen of the second display - the menus etc were on an imaginary monitor off stage left. It was caused in my case by a flashed video card which had vga and dvi but no vga through the dvi port and the mac presumed the dvi to be the primary display - but I had no dvi monitor at that time so I was stuck with the vga secondary screen and what became quite a problem - how to open, grab and drag system prefs from a monitor I couldn't see to the one I could and turn on mirroring. Probably not your problem but is the MDD set to the same primary video port as the QS was? Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 10.4 or 10.5 looking for way to halftone a picture to print in BW
On 05/03/2012 09:50, James E. Therrault mjrtas...@gmail.com wrote: Back in the ancient computer days, I had a H/P Deskwriter that only had CMY (single cartridge) and it was the cat's butt then. Color work was not brilliant but I never had a bit of trouble with it. Later, I upgraded to a newer CMYK unit and it gave me nothing but grief! So much so that I vowed to never use another H/P product ever. And I haven't. In theory, CMY should produce perfect colors including black and it does so in traditional subtractive photographic processes just as RGB works in the additive processes. But it does not in the print process where every color media needs a black kicker to really make it work. JT (Who remembers many years in the photography and printing biz...) I wonder if you've got me beat? I have 46 years in the photo/printing biz from an apprentice at 16 through letterpress (Heidelbergs and Glockners), Litho (Heidelbergs and Fuji) to densitometer controlled limited edition printing for the Fine Art Trade Guild. Switched to prepress and management with Dainippon galley cameras, drum scanners and final film planning - then switched to study with an MA (now an MSc) in Digital Imaging at the London Institute. I also had a Deskwriter - a 510 model with black only and upgraded that to an A3 Epson 1200 with 6 colour printing. The subtractive CMY model in photography is not comparable with the CMYK print process as it uses continuous tone and specially coated materials to give it a much wider gamut of colours - print processes use plain paper and the tones have to be generated by dots to fool the human eye. Also the CMY inks for printing were never really perfected due to the wide choice and quality of papers and methods like gravure and web and the difficulty of printing heavy wet on wet areas - drying time was a big bug to printers thus the 100% black with maybe a ?% tint of C, M or Y or all three to produce a 'rich black'. I've never come across a CMY inkjet printer but obviously they must exist if you had one - they perhaps didn't last long as less colours seem to contribute less to the final image in inkjet even with the coated paper. Epson have some models which utilise 2 greys and black to produce better quality monochrome - not unusual as high quality BW printing of photographic books also used duotone and tritone. If only I could justify buying one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMYK_color_model Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 10.4 or 10.5 looking for way to halftone a picture to print in BW
On 04/03/2012 03:03, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: You do know that if you print using all three colors you get FAKE BLACK! I am not very sure what you mean there - RGB images like those viewed on a computer have no black at all - black is not in the spectrum. It's only when images are sent to print that a black is generated by the conversion to CMYK. The appearance of black in RGB has the channel levels 0.0.0 whilst white is 256.256.256 levels of RGB. Black is added because when printing 100% of CMY is not only a poor effort at black it is also a serious waste of colour ink when a solid black will look better - thus UCR was developed. Basically - unless you are working in CMYK there never is a genuine black... Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 10.4 or 10.5 looking for way to halftone a picture to print in BW
On 03/03/2012 03:34, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: G'day Santa, Yes, iPhoto has in the EDIT mode a BW button, BUT THIS IS FAKE! Let me tell you why. All it does is print ALL COLORS and BLACK making a FAKE BLACK AND WHITE PIX. Not that it matters, but with the house in foreclosure, cancer, job loss, pregnant, and brother being deported, we can not spend a penny to buy a color cart, but I wanted to print using ONLY THE BLACK INK - NO COLOR FILL INS == This I have already done, it is ALL BLACK OR ALL WHITE, on a scale of 0 to 9 it is a 1 or 2. Years ago we had newspapers printing using ONLY BLACK INK, which is all I have to work with NO COLOR AT ALL, so now you see how this is fake --- not using a halftone screen This could give a 7 or 8! Any other sources for a REAL screen? Regards JML == --- On Fri, 3/2/12, Brian Christmas ozsa...@gmail.com wrote: From: Brian Christmas ozsa...@gmail.com Subject: Re: G4 10.4 or 10.5 looking for way to halftone a picture to print in BW To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, March 2, 2012, 5:51 PM On 03/03/2012, at 12:12 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: From time to time I want to print in BW. Get the effect of aging in old photographs, or make your pictures look classic and use the black-and-white effect, etc. I run G4 10.4 or 10.5 looking for way to halftone a picture to print in BW, NOT INTEL. Any ideeas I do NOT have photoshop. A site letting me up load the pix and dl it back in halftone would work just fine. Thanks. G'day Jonas I think you're looking for greyscale printing - newspapers did indeed use a low res BW halftone screen - about 80 lines per inch I think and black ink only which gave the appearance of tone to the human eye by varying the size/distance between dots. This was analogue imaging though and digital is very different but your image editor should have the ability to convert an image to greyscale - 256 levels of grey calculated from the RGB channel values - and your printer dialogue should have the option to print in greyscale only - I have three printers and I know that at least two have this option. Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: re-flashing video cards for use in Mac computers
On 23/02/2012 19:50, David W. Morris bbh...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have any experience in flashing a PC video card with the AGP slot connection for use in a G4 PowerMac (or G5 PowerMac), by installing it into the Mac and using a remote desktop program to display the screen on a different computer, so the re-flashing process can be run on the Mac while it has no working video card display? Sounds like a crazy idea, I know. But if a person doesn't have a Windows PC with an AGP slot any longer, and doesn't have a PCI video card that works on a Mac, what are the other options available? I have a 128mb VRAM Windows version of the ATI Radeon 8500, that I want to use in my dual 1.25GHz G4 PowerMac MDD, which I have upgraded to stock Apple dual 1.42GHz G4 CPU module. David It was fairly common among the old flashing brigade - much less common now due to the death of the original pci and agp - and is usually achieved by running Panther through chicken of the vnc - or any vnc controller. Panther because it will boot with a non mac card installed. The flashing software is Graphiccelerator but be aware that it will flash all the ATI cards installed - both pci and agp - a cautionary note if you do have an ATI pci card to boot and flash the ATI agp. There never was a 128MB ATI 8500 for the mac so no standard rom - just the 64MB version - so you may end up with half the vram. Also the 128MB version for the pc was known as the 8500LE and as far as I can remember a cut down version with vga and a strange dvi port that has no vga and will not take an adapter. Aquamac details the how on his site with an X800... http://www.s155158671.websitehome.co.uk/macx800xtaqua-ma.html Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: ATI Radeon 7000 Mac Version 32MB PCI video card not recognized on Sawtooth
On 23/02/2012 15:04, Jesse jesse.wm.wall...@gmail.com wrote: After much doing (using a hybrid of methods), I was able to flash the Radeon 7000 PCI graphics card to successfully work on the Mac -- currently I'm using v2.08 of the ROM and have noticed that neither QE or Core Image are being supported. Will going up to v2.26 enable one (or both) of those? As I mentioned earlier, the main reason I'm using this card is to enable monitor rotation -- so basically whatever ROM allows for that under 10.4. Thanks folks! Hmm - is that where you rotate the monitor itself or where the monitor stays as is and the display view is rotated with software? I thought the second method was called Versavision by ATI and is part of the still available ATI Displays Utilities prefs pane for Tiger and later. I've had it installed with ATI cards many times but never tried it so perhaps I'm mistaken and it is only of use for rotatable monitors. Can't try it cos I've currently got a GeForce installed. Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
MDD Dual quick fan noise fix
I have a G4 MDD dual 1.25 which I use for the internet and mail etc - has four internal hard drives and over a period of time the cpu temp has risen to the point where even at idle the main fan kicks up a noisy notch - the cpu temp for the kick up seems to be around the 56 celsius mark - idle cpu temp is around 58C and my HD closest to the cpu has a temp of 43C compared to the other three in the low thirties. The increased fan noise annoyed me to the point of trying to do something about it so yesterday I removed the heatsink from the cpu, cleaned the arctic silver from the heatsink and cpu heads and applied arctic ceramique instead as I had some lying around. I had little hope that it would offer substantial improvement so I also shopped around for a quieter main fan. The arctic blurb quotes up to 25 operating hours for maximum heat transfer effect - which I haven't reached yet - but today the little devil of a cpu is idling below 55C - the nearest HD is below 40C and the noisy fan no longer kicks in at all. Half hour of work saved me the price of a new main fan and the grief of fitting it. I ought to mention that I am well used to heatsink removal - but it's hardly rocket science. Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: ATI Radeon 7000 Mac Version 32MB PCI video card not recognized on Sawtooth
On 13/02/2012 15:38, Jesse jesse.wm.wall...@gmail.com wrote: As some of you have suspected, the card was recognized when I plugged it in my PC. It won't display past the Windows XP startup screen, but I know that's something to do with not having the correct drivers. Bottom line: if it displays ANYTHING, it's gotta be working to some capacity. So my next course of action is to flash the ROM so that it will work in my Mac. All of the methods I've seen involve making a PC boot disk, running a utility while booted up with that disk, then transfer it over to the Mac and flash the ROM to the newest version. Is there a fairly straightforward (and as foolproof as possible) guide that someone can point me to? BTW, the guy who sold me the card apologized for it not working and refunded me all of my money saying not to worry about returning the card. So if I can get it going, it's a dbl-win. Thanks for all of the advice up to this point. First step is to id the rom chip as that will be the limiting factor in any conversion to mac - it's a quite small 8 pin soic flash memory chip and hopefully made by ST micro - and if so labelled M25P05 or M25P10 - there are other reference numbers following the first bit but ignore them. Other common flash memory providers were Atmel. The M25P05 is allegedly 64KB and the M25P10 is 128KB - the allegedly is there because many P10 chips were mislabelled as P05. Required for flashing on a PC will be a dos boot disk and a second disk containing the utilities and any roms needed. Flashrom will be ok for the utility for such an old card and no other display card is required if you 'hot flash' it while it is in use for the PC display as the rom is no longer accessed after the dos boot. FIRST save the current rom from the card - vital if anything goes pear shaped. If you have a P05 chip you can flash it with a 64KB or less reduced mac 7000 rom - or alternatively try the full 128KB mac rom to find out the size of the chip. If the rom is indeed a 64KB chip the 128KB flash will fail with an error at 65556 something odd bytes and should immediately be reflashed with the smaller 64KB mac rom - success should result in a little tune from the mobo. With the reduced mac rom it will work ok under OSX and classic but pretty awful under OS9 boot - the info to enable it in OS9 has been removed from the reduced rom. The reduced rom/chip is also not upgradeable with any ATI updates as they will try to write 128KB into a 64KB chip and kill the card - and resurrecting it will require a PC with a second display card so use the latest version reduced rom. Complete flashing info for dos commands etc should be on the mac elite wiki. All good stuff...let me know if you need any more... Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
Plugins are disabled by the newest release On Oct 1, 2011 10:50 AM, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net wrote: Listers, I recently installed the upgrade of TenFourFox (7.0) on my Mac G4 running Tiger (10.4.11). TenFourFox is telling me that I need to install the Flash Player Plugin and here is where the trouble begins. I am unable to find the PlugIn on the Internet. The only versions that I can find are for Intel Macs. Interestingly, I also use Camino and it handles Flash just fine so I know that the plugin is somewhere in my System. Safari can also display Flash material. Can I copy the plugin that Camino uses and make TenFourFox see it as well? I need step by step instructions. Thanks, Larry -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
According to the Blog from TenFour, plugins are disabled and can not be enabled. Means Flashplayer won't work. On Oct 1, 2011 1:36 PM, QuoVadis eelcovanv...@home.nl wrote: Does that mean that the latest release will not work with Flash Player 10.1? Would be a bit daft, since they're calling it TenFour. Or do you have to manually enable plugins? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
Thank you foe the tip, Larry. I didn't know it was possible to enable them. On Oct 1, 2011 4:03 PM, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, you have to enable plugins. I just learned how: Open TenFourFox and in the address bar type about config Scroll down to TenFourFox PlugIns and double click. This changes the default behavior of TenFourFox, which, (as a fellow Lister, Peter, just pointed out) is set to DISABLE. After making this simple adjustment, TenFourFox is behaving itself and displaying Flash media. Larry Does that mean that the latest release will not work with Flash Player 10.1? Would be a bit daft, since they're calling it TenFour. Or do you have to manually enable plugins? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Network burning?
Hey All, I would like to burn something with Toast onto a Dual Layer DVD. I have Toast on my Dual 450 Gig Ethernet, and I have a Dual Layer capable Super Drive in my Lombard... As far as I know there is no way on earth to get a Lombard into Target disk mode, even though I have Firewire PC card. I tried to install Toast 9 on the Lombard, and that does not work either. I need Toast because I want the DVD to be bootable, and Disk Utility does not seem to be doing the trick. Can I somehow use that burner over the LAN, in Toast? Or is there some way to burn a bootable disk from .dmg that I am not thinking of? Both systems are running 10.4.11 I'm regretting my choices of which drive to upgrade 6 or 8 years ago... :) Thanks Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Installer for patched KeyLargoATA.kext for limited large drive support in pre-QS2002 G4 Power Macs
QUESTION: Is anybody else interested in the package? If so, are there any suggestions where to put it so that people can download it? Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 I'd be interested peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Network burning?
Just open Disk Utility and click on burn then select the .dmg. Tried that and made a coaster, luckily the 15 pack of DL DVDs are on sale for $10 at staples this week, so it's not a huge loss. The Lombard DVD drive may be too weak to do the burn. John, Can you elaborate on this? If it is a superdrive, capable of burning Dual Layer, is it the laptop that is not providing enough power? I use Toast 7 and 8. Looks like I will need the older copy of toast then. What do you have for a burner on the 450 dual? John Carmonne My G4 has no burning capabilities, I have an external CD burner hooked up to it. Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Network burning?
Swap the HDDs? Swap the ODDs? Transfer the file via Bonjour? Transfer the file via flash drive? Tina Hey Tina, Transferring the file was no problem, I wanted TDM to control the Lombard's ODD from the G4. As far as swapping the ODDs, if there is an adapter out there to do that, I would love to get it. anybody ever seen one? If I were to google, what is the name of the connector used in those hot swappable laptop bays? Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Network burning?
A Lombard can go into TDM, but it will be SCSI TDM not Firewire. John True, I just don't have a SCSI card for the G4. Short term, I think I'll look into getting an older Toast. But long term, I think I might make a wire hack project out of getting the DVD burner to work in the Tower... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: M-Audio Revolution 7.1 and Power Mac G4
On Mar 6, 11:05 pm, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: I own the 5.1 and I was pretty happy with the card. The drivers however had issues such as forgetting settings. I picked up the 5.1 used (for $15!!) off craigslist in January, for my GigE dual 450. The new drivers have been working fine, though when I use fast user switching, I get a crazy noise sometimes from the speakers. system logs show a ton of notes about something to do with unexpected volume change (one error for each of the 6 channels). But as soon as I change the volume, it figures itself out, and the loud buzzing goes away, so I haven't worried about it up till now. I am using the analogue ports, not the digital, and my speakers are all small computer speakers, including a cute little sub-woofer that fits under my desk nicely. The only setting I have had to change more than once was the audio input. I want it to be through my web cam, and it keeps trying to pick up from the M-Audio's input port. But that is a setting in Skype, not System Prefs, or the M-Audio panel. Since I watch/listen to all my media on this Mac (there's no TV in my house), it's been really fun to have. Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
my mac don´t have correct display image
my mac don´t have correct display image.can any one tell me whats hapening -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Fwd: my mac don´t have correct display image
-- Forwarded message -- From: Peter Martin petermartin...@gmail.com Date: 2011/1/31 Subject: my mac don´t have correct display image To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com my mac don´t have correct display image.can any one tell me whats hapening And also can´t do instalacionts -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Child Mac user advice needed
On Jan 9, 2011, at 7:53 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Are there children programs for G3? Where, who, etc. StarFall.com is a great educational site (reading related), and I don't think it has any flash, we used it on a blueberry iMac. We also love the Myst games. They take parental involvement, but are great for developing problem solving skills. I started the first one with my daughter when she was 6, now my 5 year old son sees us playing it and wants to help out. (b.t.w. we are up to Revelation, the 4th one) If you can encode videos to play on the G3, it is nice to put copies of their favorite movies in the computer. They learn the file structure, by being given the chance to watch what the movie they want if they can find it on their own. With regard to encoding, I've found that kids will sacrifice any amount of resolution, but I don't hear the end of it if the movie plays choppy. We have had good luck at Garage sales, Craigslist, and especially Home-School book sales for finding older educational software that will work well on Low End Macs. Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 'Greyed' screen
If you needed to reboot to clear things then *something else* is doing this. - Dan. OK Dan, When I get home I will go back into console to find the errors, but the only other things I saw were some droped frame errors from VLC earier in the day. I did have VLC, Mail, EyeTV Light, Remote Buddy, and Firefox running (and Growl/Growl Mail) I had Dashboard off. I don't always have to reboot to get it to go away. there have been times when, after ten min. it goes away on it's own. The icon in the menu bar is totally unnecessary; it can be turned off. I only mentioned the icon because most of the menu bar icons turned grey, and that was among the ones that did not. Growl does NOT gray out the whole screen, ever. I thought it might have had to do with the profile settings in Growl, I know different ones look very different, and that perhaps they could do more than the regular notification under certian conditions? Any other ideas about what it could be? Again, I don't see any difference in performance. It's more of an agervation. Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Newer Technology MaxPower processor upgrade
On Jan 4, 2011, at 8:03 AM, faithie999 wrote: has anyone tried one of these upgrades? the 7447A or 7448? i have a Sawtooth G4 that i'd like to use for Photoshop CS5. i know it won't be blazing fast with either of these upgrades. does anyone have experience with either of these? the company's web site shows comparative speed data between each processor and the native G4 processor, but there is no data showing a comparison between the 7447A and the 7448. thanks ken Ken, Here is a review: http://lowendmac.com/reviews/08rev/maxpower-1.8-ghz-single.html I also saw that newertech's page for the 7447a has the same tests that they do on the page where they have the more thorough comparison chart for the 7448 These are tough to find in stock any more, except at OWC where the 7448 dual 1.8 is $779.99. I sometimes wonder if their claims about the speed can be true, considering the fact that a new Mini has faster RAM, and a (supposedly) faster processor, etc... If it's all true, it would be great to say the heck with Intel, and go this route. I hope someone who has one speaks up :) Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
'Greyed' screen
Every once in a while, almost everything on my screen gets less saturated. It is as if I had increased the brightness setting, except... it does not affect everything. My desktop image is not affected, not is the apple icon in the upper right, nor images I open, nor videos..?...? It's just the windows, text, certain icons at the top of the screen (Growl, Bluetooth, and User name being notable exceptions) and dock icons. What could this possibly be? My machine: Gig E G4, 10.4.11, 1GB ram ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 mb -1360x768 @ 60hz -32-bit color Acer X183H LCD monitor (VGA) PCI cards: -6 port USB2 -M-Audio revolution 5.1 2 external HDs 2 internal PATA drives Thanks, Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 'Greyed' screen
On Jan 3, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jan 3, 2011, at 9:22 PM, peter wrote: What could this possibly be? Something related to Exposé? It is not when I'm using Expose actively. Tonight, I was in the middle of looking at the G-Group list online, and it suddenly happened, my mouse was not near the hot corner for expose... I have not been able to trace it to any certain activity, or level of activity. It happens (seemingly) randomly, and then goes away randomly. The only thing that I can guarantee to make it go away is a restart. However it will often go away on it's own, after varying periods of time. if it was the whole screen, I would think it was an issue with the video card, or monitor, but I have those odd exceptions. BTW it does not affect my ability to do anything. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 'Greyed' screen
Is Growl trying to tell you something is happening in the background? Incoming call or something? No, In the top bar, where the icons for volume, fast user switching, displays, etc go, there is a Growl icon. The rest are about 80% grey (though still accessible) but Growl, Bluetooth, and My user name for Fast user switching are black. Speaking of fast user switching, when I switch to my wife's login, it is still Grey. It looks as though some process is trying to get my attention, but there is no alert window, or anything. Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 'Greyed' screen
On Jan 4, 2011, at 12:44 AM, PETER WARNER wrote: Is Growl trying to tell you something is happening in the background? Incoming call or something? No, ... Famous Last Word... As per Alex, I checked Console, and there were a bunch of errors fro Growl, and it seems a Growl like action, to reduce most of the screen while showing an alert. I stopped Growl, and Growl Mail, and restarted. Logging out, and back in did not work, it had to be a full restart. Perhaps I'll avoid the Growl in the future... Thanks Guys, Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Auto starting DVDs with VLC rather than DVD player
I think we had a discussion about doing this a year or so ago, and someone directed us to one of the applescript options out there for making it work. However, I have an external hard drive hooked up, and sometimes a flash drive, or an external optical drive, or a flash card reader, etc. The scripts that were sited directed VLC to open a specific rdisk location (ex; rdisk1). The changing of mounted drives changed the rdisk location of the combo drive on my G4 GigE. That meant that it was a crap shoot as to weather the dvd would start up automatically, or not. After much harassment from my wife and kids, who just want things to work, I decided to take a bit of my vacation time to finally fix the issue. So here is my solution. In AppleScript Utility check the box for 'Enable GUI Scripting' Make the following script in Script Editor, and save it somewhere that it won't have to move. tell application VLC activate end tell tell application System Events key down command keystroke d key up command delay 3 keystroke return tell application VLC play fullscreen end tell end tell Go to: System Preferences-CDs DVDs-When you insert a video DVD:- Run script Select the script you just saved. This does an end run around the rdisk issue, and opens the DVDs every time. The 'delay 3' line can be adjusted, or even removed, depending on how fast your system can open that pop-up window in VLC. I am no apple script expert, and the code might do with some cleaning up, but for now, it works, and my wife is off my back about it. I hope it can help someone else too. I know some people prefer VLC for the ability to play DVDs from other regions. For me, I have more functions on my pinnacle remote set up through Remote Buddy for VLC than for DVD player, and I can use it as my one stop application for viewing any video content, whether it's on my hard drive, or a DVD. Happy Holidays, Peter (FYI my machine is running 10.4.11, specific wording in the menus/ preferences may be different in 10.3/10.5, I am not sure) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 867Mhz G4 Quicksilver - 10.5.8 OS semi-hangs after running SystemProfiler
The link to the Firmware update that was posted here earlier is for the G4 MDD and not for the QS that the OP is discussing. Just saying ;-) Peter M. Sent from my BlackBerry® -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
how can i delete my system disc on my G4 with Tiger
how can i delete my system disc on my G4 with Tiger.thak you -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Beating a dead horse? - Flashing PC video cards for a Power Mac
On Dec 3, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Justin The Cynical wrote: Looking around on google, I'm only finding old and apparently abandoned web sites, if they even exist any longer and not much in the way of archives on archive.org So, does anyone know of an active site, IRC channel, or even still have the info for doing this? It would appear that the hackers who were formerly active in hacking PC video cards for use on G4 (and other PPC) Macs have moved on to hacking MacOS itself to run on unmodified PC hardware. Some of these folks are in developing countries where gen-u-wine Apple hardware is non-existent, or it costs several year's wages. Russia is one place where such hacking is going on. Also Argentina. Here in the USA, hacking is going on, too, with some significant efforts in the installation and customization areas. The goal has always been to boot MacOS X on PC hardware with MacOS itself being unmodified. Even to the extent of using an unmodified retail installation DVD. This has largely been achieved, most notably through utilization of the EFI partition which is a functional part of any Intel-based PC or Mac, but which partition is unused by MacOS X. The PC's second and subsequent stage boot loaders are placed there, in this hidden partition, each phase of which contributes to the eventual hand-off to MacOS X itself. It used to be that loads of mods were necessary to the contents of the /System/Extensions folder, but even these mods have been all but eliminated. Most of the operational mods are now in a new /Extra folder, which MacOS X ignores, and the DSDT is contained there, along with, usually, four extensions which are involved in kernel decrypting, sound and networking support. For installation, there is no MacOS X environment, so that part is simulated using a RAMDISK concept borrowed from Linux. The stuff which would be in the EFI partition and the /Extra folder are in the RAMDISK, and the MacOS X Installer just goes merrily on its way creating an instance of MacOS X on the target hard drive. The just-installed MacOS X is booted for the first time, also using the RAMDISK, and then the EFI partition and the /Extra folder are created by a special application. The next and all subsequent boots are as if the PC really was a Mac. I suppose this is not too unlike the original developer's hardware, from back in the first public beta of 10.4.8, which was presumably on an Intel motherboard without the TPM support. Indeed, PC motherboards are now available with TPM support, but that does no one any good as the decryption key is missing. No matter as it is rather easy to decrypt the MacOS X kernel using software, and once decrypted, it need not be decrypted again, at least not until the MacOS X system is again rebooted. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 DP 450 Gig-E issues
On Dec 4, 2010, at 11:40 AM, rtows...@aol.com wrote: No power-up light Non fans No chimes No HD spin The FIRST thing to check is the input power switch. It has a 115 position and a 230 position. If placed on the 230 position, but operated on 115 volts, the PSU's converter section is operated as a full-wave bridge, and the intermediate dc bus voltage will be only 162.25 volts, whereas it needs to be 325 volts for proper operation. If placed on the 115 position, and operated on 115 volts, the PSU's converter section is operated as a half-wave voltage doubler, and the intermediate dc voltage will be 325 volts, as is expected and required for proper operation. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
install osx 10.5
can i install osx 10.5 in my 933mhz ppc g4? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: install osx 10.5
Thank you.And can you tell me the better way to put usb 2.0 in the same machine? 2010/11/30 Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com On 2010/11/29 06:41, Peter Martin so eloquently wrote: can i install osx 10.5 in my 933mhz ppc g4? Yes, the official minimum is 867 MHz. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: install osx 10.5
Thank you all very much. 2010/11/30 Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net On Nov 30, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 30, 2010, at 6:51 AM, Peter Martin wrote: Thank you.And can you tell me the better way to put usb 2.0 in the same machine? Just about any PCI USB2.0 card. I had an IOGear one in my G4 worked like a charm. I'm using an IOGear GIC251U 5-port USB 2 PCI card I got from owcomputing.com in my Yikes! and the same card from buy.com in my Digital Audio Dual 533. Tiger is on my Yikes! and Leopard is on my DA. Both cats are happy ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 450mhz dual
On Nov 22, 2010, at 5:49 AM, Geke wrote: In the other thread: I goofed about partitioning making bigger- than-128 GB drives work; fortunately the others corrected me. I think when you install the OS on the (internal) 160 GB, it will see only a 128 GB drive; on formatting, you can choose to install Sys 9 support; if you don’t, you’ll still be able to use Classic. I typically partition my 160 GB drives into four below-the-line partitions and one 25 GB above-the-line partition. Whether GB or GiB or whatever, the limit is 131,072 megabytes, period. In the older initializers, the space was allocated in megabytes, in the current initializers, the space is allocated in gigabytes and tenths and hundredths of gigabytes. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 450mhz dual
On Nov 21, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Chance Reecher wrote: 150GB drives do not exist. 160 GB drives certainly exist, as do 320 and 640 GBs. At the time 160 GB drives were quite popular, 300 and 400 GB drives also were popular. 500 GB drives and 250 GB drives which were derived from the 500 GB drives were also found. It is certainly possible that 150 GB drives were derived from 300 GB drives, and 200 GB drives were derived from 400 GB drives, by the simple expedient of eliminating platters. Dual G4s were made in 2 x 450 and 2 x 500 versions (Gigabit Ethernets, 100 MHz bus, 4 RAM slots, 3 PCI slots, AGP, video). Dual G4s were also 2 x 533 (Digital Audios, 133 MHz bus, 3 RAM slots, 4 PCI slots, AGP video) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: BW: Is It or Isn't It? (Silly Senile Question). . .
On Nov 16, 2010, at 7:06 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: A 450MHz BW is shown there along with the 300 and up ... Yosemite, Yosemite 1.5 and Silk names The BW was made in three different variations, using two different cases and two different motherboards. 1) First version (possibly Yosemite): first case version (single removable hard drive tray), first motherboard version (non-402 ATA chip, slave HD drive didn't work) 2) Second version (possibly Yosemite 1.5): first case version (single removable hard drive tray), second motherboard version (402 ATA chip, slave HD drive worked, but no place for second HD drive) 3) Third version (possibly Silk): second case version (individually removable hard drive trays including a two-high tray for ATA HDs), second motherboard version (402 ATA chip, slave HD drive worked) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DVD, Webcam, Pix, and Images: why are they soooo different
On Nov 16, 2010, at 8:18 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: DVD's are encoded via MPEG2, which is an asymmetric codec: it's significantly less computationally intensive to decode versus encode. (this is how it was developed to be, to allow cheap DVD players. Also why it takes iDVD all night to encode a hour's video to DVD on a G4 with a 1Gig CPU and a gig of ram.) Indeed so, and possibly why there are badly-authored versions of apparently identical movies out there. Sometimes just the menu is bad. Other times the movie itself is bad. Either way, the player or the application is going to have trouble. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerMac G3 AIO 'snapping/popping'
On Nov 9, 2010, at 12:10 AM, Jim Scott wrote: Nope, it's the sound (and soon to be the smell) of the flyback transformer's death throes. Indeed so. The AIO needs a new analog board, which is essentially the heart and soul of the Trinitron monitor. Which is perhaps one reason NOT to get an AIO. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerMac G3 AIO 'snapping/popping'
On Nov 9, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: No it's the flyback transformer, a common issue in the AIO's especially at their age. True enough, but tripler type flybacks are commonly enough available from the usual suspect TV and monitor repair parts dealers. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerMac G3 AIO 'snapping/popping'
On Nov 9, 2010, at 1:51 PM, Chuck wrote: you''ll get knocked across the room and a 20,000kV+ shock will pass through your heart. when you try to monkey around with this. Its generally about 25 kV, but it is very seldom through one's heart. All modern flybacks are of the bleeder type, and the potential which is stored across the aquadag of the CRT is very promptly dissipated by the bleeder within the flyback. However, ANY repairs on a CRT's analog board must, necessarily, be effected by well-trained personnel. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thermal Compound Question
On Nov 4, 2010, at 8:13 AM, Geke wrote: To improve conductance, you can use the type of paste containing metal (like Arctic silver), but then you have to be more careful than with the white ceramic type of paste, because metal also conducts electricity. The white pastes are a nuisance to clean-up after. However, these clean-up quite easily by using full-strength Pine-Sol, followed by a hot water rinse. Arctic silver is indeed conductive, which is why the applications procedure is so involved. White and diamond pastes are non-conductive, and the procedures are somewhat simpler. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thermal Compound Question
On Nov 3, 2010, at 8:13 AM, John Carmonne wrote: I really don't understand diamond being a thermal conductor Diamond is an excellent conductor of heat, a property which is utilized by jewelers ad gemologists everywhere to detect fake diamonds from real ones. The testing device measures the subject gem's properties and returns a GO or NO-GO indication. Manufactured diamonds can be detected, too, by their difference in fluorescence from natural diamonds. Anyway, the thermal paste which includes diamonds, either natural or manufactured, is a superior product, which simply uses the gem's inherent properties to conduct heat better than competitive products. Still, for all but the most demanding application, white silicone grease is probably good enough. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mismatched SCSI connectors... (G4 Sawtooth)
On Nov 3, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: I believe its probably a PC only card. If it is a Mac card, then it will say so on the ROM's label. In general, the Adaptec (and perhaps other) SCSI cards which have 25- pin D-Subminiature connectors are hard-pressed to be Mac-compatible. The cards which have high-density 50-pin connectors (also known as a SCSI-2 connector), or the also SCSI-2 68-pin connector (but which is W-SCSI, UW-SCSI or LV/SE-SCSI), are the best for Mac-compatibility. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mismatched SCSI connectors... (G4 Sawtooth)
On Nov 3, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: What is an HD50 connector? It is the single-byte (SCSI-N) version of the two-byte (SCSI-W) HD68 connector. Both were codified in the SCSI-2 standard. The large Amphenol 50-pin (incorrectly called Centronics) and the smaller MIL-Spec 25-pin D-Subminiature (actually a Cannon Electric design) were never officially part of the SCSI-1 specification. The 50-pin and 68-pin HD connectors ARE part of the SCSI-2 specification. A card which I have had very good luck with is the Adaptec AHA-2930CU, which is Apple part number 1719309-00 A, and has a Mac BIOS with a checksum of EEC8. The external connector is a SCSI-2 HD50 type, and the internal connector is a 50-pin ribbon type. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
On Oct 31, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Tina K. wrote: Nice fandom article with no real facts. *shrug* Sorry, no OS is a must have for me. Unless it's going to make me breakfast in the morning and then go to work for me while I shop, and clean my house while I sleep I can do just fine without it. Agree, 100 percent. IF the new OS is not 100 percent compatible with the applications which I have already paid-for, then the new OS is of NO interest to me. Also, as I am already performing nearly 90 percent of all my applications on competitive hardware (OSx86), should that new OS also incorporate features which purport to eliminate compatibility with OSx86 hardware, then, again, that new OS is also of NO interest to me. An OS is just an interface ... from me to it. If it won't DO what I expect and require it to do, then it is of NO interest to me. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB 2.0 for a G4 MDD?
On Oct 30, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Cadeon wrote: The big thing lacking here is USB 2. There are a lot of cheap (I mean really cheap) USB 2 PCI cards out there, but I'm worried that it's going to be hit-or-miss for one off the shelf working in my G4, with leopard. Just be sure to get an OHCI-compliant card. Should work on OS 9 also, but not necessarily at 2.0 speed. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
On Oct 28, 2010, at 4:32 PM, admin wrote: I like this model a lot. The Zip drive, if still there, and Zip CAGE can both be removed, creating more open space inside for running cables, SCSI, ATA or SATA. It seems to run cooler and quieter than a MDD I had for a short time. The QS 2002 dual 1.0 GHz is an exceptionally reliable machine, perhaps more reliable than any successor machine (Mirror Door, et. al.). The QS 2001/QS2002 Zip drive carrier requires simple modifications to accommodate an HD in place of the Zip, and the QS 2002 ROM will accept any LBA48 drive (500 GB, say) on the optical bus, as it will on the HD bus, and the QS2001 and the Digital Audio can very easily made to do so (LBA48 Property Script). There are no significant reliability issues with the PSU of the DA, QS 2001 nor with the QS 2002. The motherboards are essentially the same, differing only in certain changes to accommodate the changes in overall functional specifications. 1.5 GB maximum RAM in all. I have retired my several DAs, just because, and I have replaced all with a single QS 2002 dual 1.0 GHz, and have augmented these by certain generic machines (LGA 775 AND LGA 1156) which have been adapted to run 10.6.4 using the usual techniques. My most reliable machine is a Shuttle SP35P2V2 (P35 Northbridge/ICH9- R Southbridge) with an nVidia 8400GS video card and a Dell/Broadcom 4318 Airport-compatible WiFi card, running MacOS X 10.6.4 with ALL software updates. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Max HDD size for G3 Clamshell
On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:06 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: I have followed them on ebay for yrs and never have seen one with higher then 120G... 120 GB was the largest physical drive made, although the software supports a drive up to 131,072 MB (128 GB). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple inside?
On Oct 24, 2010, at 9:56 AM, James Therrault wrote: IBM was supposed to adapt PS2 to run on the PPC chips There WERE versions of that Microchannel machine which supported PPC. Usually sold as part of IBM's AIX products. Much as Apple's Network Server products supported AIX. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple inside?
On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: I know, witch third party CPU upgrades 2 GHz is possible without overclocking – altough I'm not sure if they aren't overclocked by default? 1.42 was the fastest chip which Freescale (successor to Motorola) was making in the end. The 1.8s or any others faster than 1.42 were indeed overclocked by default. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Max HDD size for G3 Clamshell
On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:56 PM, John Carmonne wrote: There are some open firmware commands that are supposed to it it but I was never able to make that method work for me :-) The so-called LBA48 property may be added persistently (meaning it is available at boot-time) on some desktops (generally, most graphite Macs). Essentially, this provides the supported models with the same functionality as the QS 2002 and all later PPC Macs have. There are three different scripts and each machine can use but two of them, one for the HD bus and another for the optical bus. http://www.speedtools.com/ATA6.html Speedtools works only after booting has been completed (because it is a kernel extension), but it is a more general solution for those who can accept an after-boot solution. Speedtools works on G3 Macs, too. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I give up what is a smurph?
On Oct 23, 2010, at 9:41 AM, smac0031 wrote: I've seen references to smurphs before. I have no idea what they are. Smurfs, NOT smurphs, the cartoon character, are blue and white. Smurfs, the G3 PowerMac, are also blue and white. For quite a while Smurfs were among the most affordable PowerMacs. These can be upgraded to G4, using a hacked MacOS ROM procedure. Alas, even Gigabit Ethernets are now exceptionally cheap, and there is probably no reason to go with the 10/100 Blue White G3 or the 10/100 slate G4s as the 10/100/1000 slate G4s and the 10/100/1000 silver G4s are now quite affordable. One negative is all of those mentioned have a very poor-performing USB system, and installing a 2.0/1.1 USB PCI card can be very useful. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD G4 Power Supply Repair
On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:29 AM, James Morgan wrote: ... After considering several options I decided to take the power supply out of both computers and send them to National Ram Electronics at Alpine New York for repair. They charge $89.00 for repair. Cost me about $14.00 to ship the 2 power supplys and they paid the return shipping. ... PSUs are generally considered to be non-repairable. The main issue is the extra-high voltage present within the housing, about 325 volts with considerable current behind it thanks to the (usually) two large converter filter caps. There is a converter (simple) and one or more inverters/regulators (complex) in a PSU. If, as is common, the failure is in the converter, replacing the diodes and the capacitors often cures the problem. If, as is uncommon, the failure is in the inverter, there is no easy way to fix these subsystems except techniques which are far beyond even an experienced PC/Mac technician. It is a fact that ONE Mac employed a generic PC PSU: the Beige G3 Mini-Tower, for which installation of a generic PC PSU is possible. The DT and AIO versions of the Beige G3, however, employed a proprietary Apple PSU. For this purpose, the Beige G3 motherboard has a jumper block on it which selects generic PC mode or Apple PSU mode. If all that is faulty is the PSU's fan, then this can be replaced by a generic fan of identical size and voltage (usually 12 volts dc). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Differences between single and dual G4 Quicksilvers
On Oct 16, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Mac User #330250 wrote: You will need at least the dual 1.0 G4 … Why is that? Won't the Dual-800 MHz from the QS2001 also work in the Single-800 MHz QS2002? Sure, a dual 0.8 GHz would be fine, but the dual 1.0 GHz are easier to find. The raw (i.e. unpopulated) board is the same between the 0.8 GHz (AKA, 800 MHz) and the 1.0 GHz (AKA, 1000 MHz), but the boards are stuffed quite differently as the chips are different. It is, therefore, not possible to divert a 0.8 GHz to a 1.0 GHz. I suppose is is possible to divert a 1.0 GHz to a 0.8 GHz. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Differences between single and dual G4 Quicksilvers
On Oct 16, 2010, at 10:01 AM, Mac User #330250 wrote: I don't get this. Is the board the same or is it not? The raw board is the same. The stuffed board is quite different. There are places for two voltage regulator systems. The 800 MHz uses one regulator system, the 1000 MHz uses another regulator system. I sometimes read that the QS2002 Single-800 MHz board is supported by various processor upgrades, but the Dual-QS2002 boards are not. Why is that? What do you mean by “stuffed”? Stuffed is a word of art for the process of picking and placing discrete components onto the raw board, usually by automatic machine. Do I get this right: chips that are not soldered onto the board maybe? – And these chips are different comparing the Single-800 and the Dual-1000 model? All components are reflow-soldered. By “divert” you mean to put a QS2002 800 MHz CPU into a QS2002 Dual board? Why should this not be possible, when the opposite is possible? Divert means to change its function or performance, from one level to another. The way Apple designed the dual 800 and dual 1000 board, although using the same raw board, it is not possible to speed up (change from 800 to 1000) for down speed (change from 1000 to 800) a processor card. On uniprocessors, it is sometimes possible to change the speed through adjustment of certain jumpers, which usually means removing or adding a resistor, possible a zero ohm resistor (i.e., a jumper). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Calendar sync'ing, Mac-PC-Droid
I would tell him to use Google Calender. The web app and phone sync with each other over the air, it's easy and simple. No need to complicate then things. On Sep 25, 2010 11:03 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: I've been googling around, and am confusing myself... So I figured you'all could set me right... My housemates need to do some calendar exchanging... She uses iCal 2, on her PowerBook G4, running Tiger. He uses peecees, a desktop and a laptop, both running Win7. And now he has a brand-new Droid from Verizon. At this time, he doesn't do calendaring on his computers at all. I'm getting the impression that the Droid somehow requires Google Calendar? Is that correct? ...I mention iCal 2 because this is perhaps a limitation; iCal 3 (which requires Leopard) adds CalDAV support that can talk to Google Calendars directly. But at this time, we do NOT want to upgrade the OS in her PB. We want to push her iCal calendars to his PCs and his the Droid. We don't necessarily want to sync them back into her iCal, as he has a um tendancy to mess things up, and we don't want her master calendar farked. If she publishes her calendars to a service like iCalX.com, can he simply subscribe to them somehow? SpanningSync http://spanningsync.com/ looks like it has some potential, at least it has a Tiger version, but I'm not sure if we want a Mac-Droid solution. That would create a dependancy on her dealing with him updating every day or so. ... It would be ok if the solution required the internet, but it would be better if it didn't - as they're often on the road in their RV without 'net access. So what's the right way to do all this? Thanks, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question re hard drive jumper settings for cable select on quicksilver single processor 867 MHz
On Sep 19, 2010, at 8:40 AM, John Carmonne wrote: 1. set the jumper settings (Seagate hard drives) to master ie ( |: : : : ) and slave ( : : : : ) Or, 2. set the jumpers to ‘cable select’ ( : |: : : ) on both? Sorry but a lot of conflicting info around. I would try cable select on both, all that maters is if they work. My PM MDD uses cable select throughout and I also use cable select on my Cubes. Either will work, but be consistent. Apple implemented the HP/Compaq patent for cable select, but only part of it ... the part which is executed at power-on. After power- on, it is behaving as Master/Slave, but as we all know, Master and Slave are not that at all ... they are peers. I always set my drives to Master (for the last and first drive) and Slave (for the next-to-last and second drive, if present). The optical drive is also on a cable select cable, but it is set by Apple to Master. Whenever I install an additional HD in the Zip carrier, it is set to Slave. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11
On Aug 22, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Chance Reecher wrote: Your CD set is not compatible with any intel Mac. It only has PPC code on it and won't even boot let alone install. The only 10.4 disc with Intel code (I think) is a later release of 10.4 Server. 10.4.8 was made as Intel. Possibly also as Universal. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11
On Aug 22, 2010, at 8:58 AM, Dan Palka wrote: ... and especially not from a PowerPC Mac mini restore set. Well, that is definitely a given (a PPC-only install DVD). But there exist 10.4.x universal installers. I am pretty sure I have one, somewhere. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: latest mac mini for 10.4.11
On Aug 22, 2010, at 8:27 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Where can I find a copy of 10.4 server? LEM is the best place. ePay is always a possibility. Even with 10.5 Server, the installation DVDs were Universal. At least the one I bought is Universal. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I need help, connecting a extra HD to my G3 B W
On Aug 15, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Robert Long wrote: I observed that the connection from the HD to the MB are female and there is one spare connection. Can I connect another HD and what type of cable or connection do I need? I have been given sever HDs, 20 gb and 40 gb. I don't know at this point if they are any good yet. If I get the right cable or connection I will try them and use it. Rev 1s came with a single drive cable. Rev 2s came with a two drive cable. You might have a Rev 2. Check for -402 on the IDE chip. If it is there, yours is a Rev. 2. If -402 is not present, yours is a Rev 1. Rev 1s cannot reliably support two HDs on the HD bus, but they CAN support a second HD on the optical bus as this uses a different chip. I run three HDs in all my remainng PPC Macs. I usually have a smallish (200 GB) HD in where the Zip drive used to be. My main drive tray has a 160 GB drive on the bottom and a 500 GB drive on the top. Failsafe partitioning is used for compatibility with pre-QS 2002 machines, although I am now using the very same drives on my QS 2002 machines. Basically, you partition the drives with a 131,072 MB partition and all the remaining space on another partition. Then, you go back and break the below the 131,072 MB 'line' partition as required. Usually, I leave the above the 131,072 MB 'line' partition alone, but that, too, can be further broken down as required. A pre-QS 2002 machine can only boot from below the 131,072 MB line. There are no restrictions on QS 2002 and later PPCs. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: will DA processor fit in Gigabit?
On Aug 6, 2010, at 7:12 AM, Geke wrote: 1. How tricky is it to put the DA's CPU into the Gigabit? The CPU is the same, but I read that the location of the CPU card on machines previous to the digital audio would require some modifications to the motherboard/case. (The other way I can manage; I have the Sonnet instructions for putting in the Encore.) The Giga-Designs processor upgrades were designed from the outset to fit in either processor position: the old position as found in the Gigabit Ethernet G4s or the new position as found in the Digital Audio and Quicksilver G4s. Giga does this by having a two-position processor cooler, and an innovative board layout which accommodates the special need of the Gigabit Ethernet for access to its optical/ ZIP drive PATA channel. The Giga-Designs processors were also designed for easy changes from a 100 MHz bus machine to a 133 MHz bus machine. I don't know if Encore offers this same flexibility. 2. What do I gain by this swap? I mean, the DA is a bit newer and faster, but is it worth it, or should I just switch to the Gigabit? - I have already tried the DA's video card in the Gigabit and it works OK; does it make a big difference that the DA is AGPx4 and the Gigabit AGPx2? - The RAM in both computers is PC-133 - Does the slower ATA bus speed of the Gigabit make a big difference in actual practice? It can make a difference, but that difference is probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 150 minutes to do a complex DVD authoring/ mastering job on a Gigabit Ethernet (100 MHz bus, an slower ATA channel) to 120 minutes to do the same job on a Digital Audio or a Quicksilver (133 MHz bus and faster ATA channel). In stark contrast, a Shuttle SP35 OSx86 Hackintosh can do that same DVD authoring/mastering job in 12 minutes ... a 10-to-1 improvement in wall-cock-time, which is certainly one important measure of performance. I still retain 133 MHz bus G4s for ordinary work (such as web access and Mail.app access, for which a 133 MHz bus and a dual 1.0 GHz G4 processor is certainly satisfactory). All the heavy lifting in my shop is now run on OSx86 Hackintoshes with, variously, 800 MHz to 1600 MHz buses and dual or quad Intel processors in the very high 2 MHz to low 3 MHz range (Pentium Dual- Core E6700 3.2 GHz, but over-clockable to 3.8 GHz to Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83 GHz, but over-clockable to 3.4 GHz; however, I rarely operate my processors over-clocked, preferring reliability over excessive stress on the various components). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Monitor Question
On Aug 4, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: He was tuning the frequency of the horizontal oscillator. It has to match the rate at which the transmission is sent, about 15 kHz was standard NTSC television. There is also a vertical oscillator which was once 30 Hz. Pre-NTSC, the horizontal sweep was 15,750 Hz and the vertical sweep was 60 Hz, interlaced 2:1, thereby giving a vertical frame rate of 30 f/sec. Everything was divided-down from a master 31,500 Hz source, which also happens to be the frequency of the so-called equalizing pulses within the vertical interval, five or six cycles of which surround the actual vertical synch pulse. NTSC introduces the concept of a color burst, which is 3579545 Hz, precisely. This is used to multiplex the three primary colors into an I and a Q channel, in quadrature. The other channel is Luminance (Y), and it is arranged that the bulk of the information is transmitted as Luminance, which can be recovered by a monochrome TV using conventional techniques which ignore I and Q. However, a color TV has additional circuitry which enables it to accept Y, I and Q and to output R, G and B to the shadow mask, or equivalent CRT. As the horizontal and vertical sweep rates MUST be divided-down from the 3579545 Hz burst in order to eliminate moire and other image defects, the resultant vertical frame rate is 29.97 f/sec. 29.97 Hz is close enough to 30 Hz to pass without any significant issues, just as the horizontal sweep frequency is close enough to 15750 Hz to pass without significant issues. BW transmissions have been using the NTSC frequencies for quite a few decades, perhaps five, as it became an imperative in the 1960s to be able to seamlessly intermix color and monochrome transmissions, using a switching technique invented by Sarkes-Tarzian Inc, the justifiably famous vertical interval switching technique. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
On Jul 28, 2010, at 8:14 AM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: I believe the 500GB drive can be partitioned to look like 4 125GB drives if the 128GB limit is an issue. If on a pre-QS 2002 model up to and including a QS 2001, you are stuck with the 128 GB line. All partitions below the 131,072 MB line (this equals 128 GB, BTW) must end at 131,072 MB. Below that line, you may include as many partitions as you wish. All may be bootable Above that line, you may also include as many partitions as you wish. None may be bootable. On a conventional 500 GB drive, the below the line partitions must add up to precisely 128 GB, whereas the above the line partitions must add up to about 338 GB. These add up to 466 GB, which is just about what you would expect from a 500 GB drive which has been initialized and includes all the directory and journaling stuff. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
On Jul 28, 2010, at 8:23 AM, Peter Haas wrote: Below that line, you may include as many partitions as you wish. All may be bootable Above that line, you may also include as many partitions as you wish. None may be bootable. On a QS 2002, or all later, every partition may be bootable. However, on a pre-QS 2002, none after the 131,072 MB line may be bootable, unless the LBA48 property has been added to the MacOS ROM (using the widely available script). In order for a partition to be bootable, it must be able to be seen by the MacOS ROM. It is for this reason that partitions above the line are NEVER bootable if using the Intech kernel extension, because that extension is not loaded until just before control is turned over to MacOS, whereas partitions above the line are almost always bootable if using the LBA48 property, because that property is always resident (it is persistent) within the MacOS ROM. The LBA48 property may be removed by executing a Cmd-Opt-P-R on pre- QS 2002 Macs. The LBA48 property may not be removed on a QS 2002 or later as it is burned into the MacOS ROM. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
