Yes, this list is great!
I just wanted to add that you can improve performance of this Mac by
putting in more RAM, especially if you're using large applications or
10.5.
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Valter,
I just have problems on the internet and it's getting worse.
http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/>
This does look like a good alternative.
Is Sheep Shaver the answer to that?
Right now I don't have to worry about having to emulate 9.X on my Macs
since I have
Jörg and everyone,
there is also the option to hack my Samsung netbook to be a SnowLeopard
Mac in the future ...Good luck, Jörg.>
This is just an example of what makes the g3-5 list such a good list.
There is a depth of knowledge, a willingness to try new things and
helpfulness that is wonde
Stephen,
<10.5.11? I have an MDD and it has 10.5.8 and Software Update says
my software is up to date. Is it missing something?>
Not missing anything. My mistake. It's 10.4.11 and 10.5.8.
Neal Lewis
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Bill,
I like that idea. How big a drive are you running?
another machine. >
Carbon Copy Cloner does look like a very good thing to do. Thanks for
the advice.
To everyone on the list:
• Thanks! for all of your advice. It looks like either 10.4 or 10.5
(with assist) would work on my Mac. 1
Dan,
then it will not run on Tiger. You need to check each of your favs,
to see what's required.>
So far I do not have any software that requires 10.5. However, from what
the group has said, when I get to that point, it will probably be better
to get a G5 or similar.
Plus, by that time, I ma
At 1:17 AM -0600 12/24/2011, W. Neal Lewis wrote:
A Leopard disc may cost a bit more but it's worth it... The final
vers of many ppc apps require it.
I was not aware of that. Will they not install under 10.4?
Well, it depends on the app. If the app requires Leopard or better,
then it will n
I have a partition for each OS: X 10.5.8, 10.4.11 and 9.2.2.
Depending on the jobs at hand, I can boot into any partition, except I
use 9.2.2 for Classic mode.
As it turns out, I don't use Tiger and Classic much anymore. I can
stand the 10-15% hit in speed IIRC from my tests with Xbench. Le
Il giorno 24-12-2011 7:18, W. Neal Lewis ha scritto:
> It does OK with 10.3.9 installed and seems to be fairly quick.
I used 10.3.9 years ago, and I don't remember noticeable slowing down when I
went to 10.4. So you might be ok with that.
> I just have problems on the internet and it's getting w
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:21 AM, W. Neal Lewis wrote:
> Eric,
>
> I'm all for a bit more speed. I think 10.5.11 is what I will shoot for on
> an MDD Mac. So until I can afford it, I will probably stick with 10.4.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neal Lewis
> 10.5.11? I have an MDD and it has 10.5.8 and Software Up
I would think that running 10.5 at 350MHz would be painfully slow, as
it is not what I would call Fast on my Dual 1.42GHz G4 MDD PowerMac.
Although lacking in shear numbers of available software written for it
at this time, you might want to take a look at the OS mentioned in my
signature
Hi Neal,
> > . . . <10.4 (it still has Classic support also, that was dropped in
> > 10.5).>
I have an MDD which I upgraded to a dual 1.25. It still workes well
enough although if you use the internet a lot the missing Flash
support is a minor PITA.
But I stay with Tiger. Even in Tiger the Class
Bruce,
That (getting a complete system) I had not considered. I am now looking
at that option.
Neal Lewis
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Valter,
Valter Prahlad wrote:
A good point.
. . . <10.4 (it still has Classic support also, that was dropped in
10.5).>
Is Sheep Shaver the answer to that?
It came with 10.3 and seems to do OK, but I have no other reference.
Thanks again,
Good information.
Neal Lewis
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Eric,
upgrade, and even so, 10.5 is much more sluggish. I'm running 10.4 -
Macs of this vintage need any performance improvement you can give them
in this modern world.>
I'm all for a bit more speed. I think 10.5.11 is what I will shoot for
on an MDD Mac. So until I can afford it, I will pro
Dan,
vers of many ppc apps require it. >
I was not aware of that. Will they not install under 10.4?
Let me know.
Thanks,
Neal Lewis
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Kris,
Thanks for the advice on Leopard Assist.
limitation of Leopard. >
From what I've experienced upgrading software on other Macs, the only
way to do it properly is by also upgrading the processor. An assist
program normally gets around software barriers but does not compensate
for the slow
Illirik,
Thanks for the reply.
As soon as I sell enough in my business to afford a dual processor Mac I
plan to buy an MDD.
I was not aware of the lack of Classic support in 10.5. That is good to
know.
This Mac came with 10.3 loaded on it. And it seemed to be pretty good.
S
John Ruschmeyer wrote:
this a G4 with AGP graphics (Sawtooth) or one with PCI graphics (Yikes!)?>
It's AGP.
From what you and others suggest, it sounds like it could be painfully
slow. It does OK with 10.3.9 installed and seems to be fairly quick. I
just have problems on the internet and it'
I hate to seem like Spoiled Rich Brat (TM), but getting a PMG5 is a
really good idea. You can get a 1600MHz for about $100, and it will
run 10.4 or 10.5 like a champ. My Dual-2.5 is more responsive (albeit
slower with tasks like video transcoding) than my Win7 Core 2 Quad
box. Disabling indexing is
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Neal wrote:
> I need to go to 10.4 or 10.5 on the G4 I am using. It runs at 350 MHz
> and has 1 Gb of SDRAM.
>
Since 350mhz is the absolute bottom of the G4 line, I have to ask. Is this
a G4 with AGP graphics (Sawtooth) or one with PCI graphics (Yikes!)?
If it
Neal wrote:
It runs at 350 MHz
Bruce replied:
10.5 should run ok on that system.
You'd need Leopard Assist or some way to overcome the 866 MHz
limitation of Leopard.
Bruce's "keep an eye out for cheap upgrades" was sage advice. The
"sweet spot" has long passed this old Mac and you pr
At 8:32 AM -0800 12/23/2011, Neal wrote:
I need to go to 10.4 or 10.5 on the G4 I am using. It runs at 350 MHz
and has 1 Gb of SDRAM.
What Bruce said.
Plus, once you've got either OS running, disable Spotlight's
indexing. It slows things down greatly, which will be an issue at
350 MHz. Ther
Il giorno 23-12-2011 17:32, Neal ha scritto:
> I need to go to 10.4 or 10.5 on the G4 I am using. It runs at 350 MHz
> and has 1 Gb of SDRAM.
AFAIK, 10.4 can be slightly faster than 10.5.
SInce your G4 is a mere 350MHz, unless you have good reasons to favour 10.5,
I'd go for 10.4 (it still has Cl
on a 350mhz cpu...
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Subject: 10.4 or 10.5 for a G4
I need to go to 10.4 or 10.5 on the G4 I am using. It runs at 350 MHz
and has 1 Gb of SDRAM.
Money is an important consideration.
Thanks,
Neal
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On Dec 23, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Neal wrote:
> I need to go to 10.4 or 10.5 on the G4 I am using. It runs at 350 MHz
> and has 1 Gb of SDRAM.
>
> Money is an important consideration.
Whenever possible it's usually best (in terms of ongoing compatiblity) to run
the latest supported version of an OS
I need to go to 10.4 or 10.5 on the G4 I am using. It runs at 350 MHz
and has 1 Gb of SDRAM.
Money is an important consideration.
Thanks,
Neal
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