Re: Hard Drives

2014-06-03 Thread Nestamicky
On 14-06-02 1:53 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Sadly, for the majority of the models under discussion here the answer is 'See if you can find a 7200 rpm drive'. These systems are cursed with obsolete technology. IDE-based SSD's are tiny and hugely expensive, 7200 RPM drives are getting scarce,

Re: Hard Drives

2014-06-03 Thread Nestamicky
On 14-06-02 10:14 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: Seems like all you can really do is make good backup's and even replace your backup drives every so often. This reminds me of a post I made in a Linux forum a few years back. I asked why Ubuntu continue to release newer version of their linux,

Re: Hard Drives

2014-06-03 Thread t...@prismnet.com
as the 2.5 SATA SSD (~$105) form factor. For iPods and notebooks that use 1.8 ZIF/IDE hard drives, there's a ZIF 1.8 to MSATA SSD adapter. However, if one needs to get from SCSI to SATA or IDE, the choices are not good. The SCSI to PATA/SATA adapters jumped in price a few years ago from ~$30

Re: Hard Drives

2014-06-03 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 3, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: Why for example, do manufacturers still offer five years warranty on so-called enterprise HDs, and a year or two for prosumers as Peter tells us? Because they charge 2-4X for those drives. Remember the cardinal rule of

Re: Hard Drives

2014-06-02 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:05 AM, Alex Sciortino zeosr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! Today I made an interesting observation and was wondering if anybody else has had the same experience. Today the 6mo old HDD in my MBP failed, but I have the original 320gb in a PM G5 and even an original 13gb HDD

Re: Hard Drives

2014-06-02 Thread peterhaas
It's a consequence of the bottom falling out of HDD prices, and the staggeringly high rate of HDD size increase, I expect. AND, dropping the size (thickness) from 12.5mm (although a few of those are still around) to 9.5mm, or less. -- -- You received this message because you are a member

Re: Hard Drives

2014-06-02 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 2, 2014, at 10:02 AM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: It's a consequence of the bottom falling out of HDD prices, and the staggeringly high rate of HDD size increase, I expect. AND, dropping the size (thickness) from 12.5mm (although a few of those are still around) to 9.5mm, or less.

Re: Hard Drives

2014-06-02 Thread Nestamicky
to look for when buying modern hard drives. Most people simply go for size these days, but as Bruce and others have pointed, that could indeed be the curse. So, what tech specs must one keep in mind, folks? -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those

Re: Hard Drives

2014-06-02 Thread Alex Sciortino
in with specs to look for when buying modern hard drives. Most people simply go for size these days, but as Bruce and others have pointed, that could indeed be the curse. So, what tech specs must one keep in mind, folks? That is a good point. What should we look for to ensure we get a reliable HDD

Re: Hard Drives

2014-06-02 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 2, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: Most people simply go for size these days, but as Bruce and others have pointed, that could indeed be the curse. So, what tech specs must one keep in mind, folks? Sadly, for the majority of the models under discussion here

Re: Hard Drives

2014-06-02 Thread Dale Hoffman
it along more to the point of practical information, if folks could pitch in with specs to look for when buying modern hard drives. Most people simply go for size these days, but as Bruce and others have pointed, that could indeed be the curse. So, what tech specs must one keep in mind, folks

Re: Hard Drives

2014-06-02 Thread Alex Sciortino
That isn't a bad idea... -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at

Re: Hard Drives

2014-06-02 Thread peterhaas
When I purchase a new drive I look for those designated enterprise grade. They're the ones with 5 year warranties. Used to be everything had a 5 year warranty. Then the consumer/prosumer drives drives were reduced to 3 years. Now the consumer/prosumer drives are reduced to 2 years. The

Re: Hard Drives

2014-06-02 Thread Baldassare Guzzo
I have a few Seagate 7200 3.5 ATA drives still running from 2001. They are 13 years old and have been transferred to different G4's but the drives are perfect. They all came with the 5 year warranty. Various Macbook and iBook drives I have had failures. So far my Macbook Pro late 2011

Re: Hard Drives

2014-06-02 Thread Listmister
. Wonderful information here. Thanks a lot guys! Perhaps we could move it along more to the point of practical information, if folks could pitch in with specs to look for when buying modern hard drives. Most people simply go for size these days, but as Bruce and others have pointed, that could

hard drives

2011-12-08 Thread Baldassare Guzzo
PM G4 933 with PCI SATA card. My SATA card (Seri-Tek1S2) has internal and external connections. The internal connection is connected to a 500 GB Seagate drive and seems to be working great for almost a year now. My first question - Why doesnt the drive show up in the System Profiler?

Re: hard drives

2011-12-08 Thread Kris Tilford
On Dec 8, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: My SATA card (Seri-Tek1S2) has internal and external connections. I think you've got the model name wrong? The 1S2 was two internal connections only. The model that had two internal and two external was called the 1V2+2, or 1VE2+2, or

Re: hard drives

2011-12-08 Thread John Carmonne
On Dec 8, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: PM G4 933 with PCI SATA card. My SATA card (Seri-Tek1S2) has internal and external connections. The internal connection is connected to a 500 GB Seagate drive and seems to be working great for almost a year now. My first question -

Re: Question about hard drives

2011-08-30 Thread Matthew S. Carpenter
On 8/29/11 11:52 AM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: Below the optical drive there's room (and, I think, cables) for a second unit; in my G4, they are used for the Zip drive, so I couldn't add an HD there. The Zip drive bays may, in general, be used to house hard drives. In some cases

Re: Question about hard drives

2011-08-29 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 29-08-2011 5:26, cheryl ha scritto: I have a Quicksilver 2002 and a Blue and White G3. I need more hard drive space. Would it be possible to use the hard drive from the G3 in the G4, or maybe hook the two towers together somehow? AFAIK, any G4 uses the same IDE/PATA interface as the

Re: Question about hard drives

2011-08-29 Thread Matthew S. Carpenter
On 8/28/11 9:35 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: I have a Quicksilver 2002 and a Blue and White G3. I need more hard drive space. Would it be possible to use the hard drive from the G3 in the G4, or maybe hook the two towers together somehow? Just curious. A QS 2002 supports large drives

Re: Question about hard drives

2011-08-29 Thread cheryl
natively. I would install a 500 GB or 750 GB drive on top of the existing drive. 750s might be tough to find, however. I don't have money to buy a drive. That's what I'd like to do, just add another drive; supposedly the QS has two bays for hard drives. I don't need a lot more space

Re: Question about hard drives

2011-08-29 Thread Valter Prahlad
; supposedly the QS has two bays for hard drives. As mentioned before, the standard bay on the bottom (where the default HD resides) has room and cables for two drives. Below the optical drive there's room (and, I think, cables) for a second unit; in my G4, they are used for the Zip drive, so I

Re: Question about hard drives

2011-08-29 Thread John Callahan
On Aug 29, 2011, at 12:26 AM, cheryl wrote: maybe hook the two towers together somehow? Just curious. Thanks! Cheryl Harris Tehachapi, CA Good question Cheryl! I would like to use my QuickSilver 2002's drives as an automatic back up to my iMac Intel dual w/ OS 10.5.8. Hope you don't

Re: Question about hard drives

2011-08-29 Thread peterhaas
Below the optical drive there's room (and, I think, cables) for a second unit; in my G4, they are used for the Zip drive, so I couldn't add an HD there. The Zip drive bays may, in general, be used to house hard drives. In some cases, particularly with pre-QSes, it may be necessary to apply

Question about hard drives

2011-08-28 Thread cheryl
I have a Quicksilver 2002 and a Blue and White G3. I need more hard drive space. Would it be possible to use the hard drive from the G3 in the G4, or maybe hook the two towers together somehow? Just curious. Thanks! Cheryl Harris Tehachapi, CA -- You received this message because you are a

Can old enclosures handle big new hard drives?

2011-08-01 Thread Tom
I'm thinking of buying some 2 or even 3 TB hard drives (video eats lots of space) and putting them in some old enclosures that I have lying around. These enclosures are OWC Mercury Elites whose original hard drives, which were in the 250 - 320 GB range, have died over the years. I'd guess

Re: Can old enclosures handle big new hard drives?

2011-08-01 Thread peterhaas
My question is, could an enclosure that originally held a 250 GB drive handle a 2 or 3 TB? Surely 500 GB or even 640 GB. Possibly 1 or even 1.5 TB. Probably not 2 or 3 TB. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop

Re: Can old enclosures handle big new hard drives?

2011-08-01 Thread Alexander Gomes
or even 3 TB hard drives (video eats lots of space) and putting them in some old enclosures that I have lying around. These enclosures are OWC Mercury Elites whose original hard drives, which were in the 250 - 320 GB range, have died over the years. I'd guess these enclosures are 4 or 5 years old

Hard drives seen but not mounting

2010-02-15 Thread mark ray
A couple of questions about hard drives and synching. I have a dozen IDE hard drives of assorted sizes and makes from 4GB up to 250GB that maybe one or two are definitely bricks. When I hook them up in an external enclosure some show up in Disk utility (only the first line, the second does

Re: Hard drives seen but not mounting

2010-02-15 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:32 AM, mark ray wrote: Looking around the web I am reading that since I am using (a PowerMac G5 with) Leopard 10.5.8, that may be causing the problem. Highly unlikely. It has been suggested that I check them while running Tiger or even Panther. Largely BS

Re: Hard drives seen but not mounting

2010-02-15 Thread mark ray
Thanks Bruce that's why I was asking. These were all from macs I have had in my studio and upgraded over the years. one or two may have come from an external case. I will check out your suggestion, thank you, appreciate your advice. mark ray bluellama...@embarqmail.com On Feb 15, 2010,

Re: Hard drives seen but not mounting

2010-02-15 Thread carmonne
-Original Message- From: mark ray bluellama...@embarqmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2010 10:32 am Subject: Hard drives seen but not mounting A couple of questions about hard drives and synching. I have a dozen IDE hard drives of assorted sizes and makes

Re: Hard drives seen but not mounting

2010-02-15 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:34 PM, mark ray wrote: Thanks Bruce that's why I was asking. These were all from macs I have had in my studio and upgraded over the years. one or two may have come from an external case. I will check out your suggestion, thank you, appreciate your advice. If

Re: Hard drives seen but not mounting

2010-02-15 Thread Stanton Mitrany
On Feb 15, 2010, at 1:32 PM, mark ray wrote: I have a dozen IDE hard drives of assorted sizes and makes from 4GB up to 250GB that maybe one or two are definitely bricks. When I hook them up in an external enclosure some show up in Disk utility (only the first line, the second does not show

Re: IDE/ATA Hard drives

2009-10-27 Thread yawg
Sorry people, I don't know how my last post tripled itself. I answered not from my mail account but from inside Google Groups, the same way I posted my other comments. I hope this post stays single ;-) Regards, Jörg. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

Re: IDE/ATA Hard drives

2009-10-26 Thread yawg
Hi Andreas, With the adapters/converters, to connect a SATA drive to a IDE/ATA (PATA) controller, booting from it is not the question. It will work, because the SATA drive is seen as a regular IDE/ATA drive by the hardware. With a SATA PCI card, that provides the system with a number of

Re: IDE/ATA Hard drives

2009-10-26 Thread yawg
Hi Andreas, With the adapters/converters, to connect a SATA drive to a IDE/ATA (PATA) controller, booting from it is not the question. It will work, because the SATA drive is seen as a regular IDE/ATA drive by the hardware. With a SATA PCI card, that provides the system with a number of

Re: IDE/ATA Hard drives

2009-10-26 Thread yawg
Hi Andreas, With the adapters/converters, to connect a SATA drive to a IDE/ATA (PATA) controller, booting from it is not the question. It will work, because the SATA drive is seen as a regular IDE/ATA drive by the hardware. With a SATA PCI card, that provides the system with a number of

Re: IDE/ATA Hard drives

2009-10-25 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: IDE/ATA Hard drives Date:Sonntag 25 Oktober 2009N From:yawg yaw...@gmail.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Hi, I can boot from my big SATA drives with the adapters perfectly. Regards, Jörg. So, yawg is Jörg

Re: IDE/ATA Hard drives

2009-10-24 Thread yawg
Hi Michael, I don't think I trust the Acard adapter. I've not read many encouraging reviews of it. If I don't get the Firm Tek, I'll get the adapters. Are the adapters as reliable as a SATA PCI card? I think I'd rather get the PCI card over the adapters if I can use larger drives. Get the

Re: IDE/ATA Hard drives

2009-10-24 Thread yawg
Hi Mike, I forgot: the adapter is called OEM IDE2SATA Ultra-ATA to Serial-ATA adapter. You can see the picture here: http://www.nowthatsit.nl/?categorie_id=629 It's the cheapest of the four, the lower on the right. Jörg. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

Re: IDE/ATA Hard drives

2009-10-24 Thread yawg
Hi Mike, I forgot: the adapter is called OEM IDE2SATA Ultra-ATA to Serial-ATA adapter. You can see the picture here: http://www.nowthatsit.nl/?categorie_id=629 It's the cheapest of the four, the lower on the right. Jörg. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

Re: IDE/ATA Hard drives

2009-10-24 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: IDE/ATA Hard drives Date:Samstag 24 Oktober 2009N From:Michael G.M. michaelgm717...@gmail.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On Oct 23, 8:56 am, dc dbc...@verizon.net wrote: Jump over the the LEM Swap List quickly

Re: IDE/ATA Hard drives

2009-10-24 Thread yawg
Hi, I can boot from my big SATA drives with the adapters perfectly. Regards, Jörg. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.

Re: IDE/ATA Hard drives

2009-10-23 Thread dc
On Oct 22, 2:14 am, Michael G.M. michaelgm717...@gmail.com wrote: How long do you guys think PPC Mac users with IDE/ATA hard drives have as far as being totally obsolete and finding SATA PCI cards will be nigh impossible. Jump over the the LEM Swap List quickly, there's a nice SATA PCI card

Re: IDE/ATA Hard drives

2009-10-23 Thread yawg
Hi, How long do you guys think PPC Mac users with IDE/ATA hard drives have as far as being totally obsolete and finding SATA PCI cards will be nigh impossible. Jump over the the LEM Swap List quickly, there's a nice SATA PCI card for only $45!!! You should just get an adapter, I use

Re: IDE/ATA Hard drives

2009-10-23 Thread yawg
Hi, How long do you guys think PPC Mac users with IDE/ATA hard drives have as far as being totally obsolete and finding SATA PCI cards will be nigh impossible. Jump over the the LEM Swap List quickly, there's a nice SATA PCI card for only $45!!! You should just get an adapter, I use

Re: IDE/ATA Hard drives

2009-10-23 Thread iJohn
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 7:54 PM, yawg yaw...@gmail.com wrote: I use these adapters: http://www.nowthatsit.nl/?itemtype_id=4233categorie_id=61 Regards, Jörg. I think Jörg meant to include a link pointing towards something like this: http://www.nowthatsit.nl/categorie.asp?categorie_id=629

Re: IDE/ATA Hard drives

2009-10-23 Thread Michael G.M.
On Oct 23, 8:56 am, dc dbc...@verizon.net wrote: Jump over the the LEM Swap List quickly, there's a nice SATA PCI card for only $45!!! I don't think I trust the Acard adapter. I've not read many encouraging reviews of it. If I don't get the Firm Tek, I'll get the adapters. Are the adapters

IDE/ATA Hard drives

2009-10-22 Thread Michael G.M.
I was wondering and I've been wondering about this for some time now, and as time goes on I get a little more restless about the subject... How long do you guys think PPC Mac users with IDE/ATA hard drives have as far as being totally obsolete and finding SATA PCI cards will be nigh impossible

Re: IDE/ATA Hard drives

2009-10-22 Thread Ralph Green
long do you guys think PPC Mac users with IDE/ATA hard drives have as far as being totally obsolete and finding SATA PCI cards will be nigh impossible. I probably worry too much, but I was just --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-27 Thread mkehoe
To Bruce and others - Well, I transferred over all the hard drives, including the boot-up drive, and except for some temporary issues that seem related to a PCI firewire card I tried to install at the same time, all seems to have gone well. Thanks for the advice and encouragement! Mira

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-26 Thread Nestamicky
On 9/24/09 10:42 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: I know someone who DID add memory to a running G4 tower. Amazingly it all lived. It crashed immediately, but on a restart it all worked. The beauty of macs! I wonder what would happen on a PC? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-24 Thread Clark Martin
Charles Lenington wrote: Now of course there is the on purpose power up drive , quicky pull power and drop on floor/ The noise is fun. We had a bunch of under 1 gig hospital content drives to erase/destroy. My daughter's boyfriend tried to create a whole new category (or at least add

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-24 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 24, 2009, at 12:07 AM, Clark Martin wrote: Charles Lenington wrote: Now of course there is the on purpose power up drive , quicky pull power and drop on floor/ The noise is fun. We had a bunch of under 1 gig hospital content drives to erase/destroy. My daughter's boyfriend

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-24 Thread Clark Martin
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 24, 2009, at 12:07 AM, Clark Martin wrote: Charles Lenington wrote: Now of course there is the on purpose power up drive , quicky pull power and drop on floor/ The noise is fun. We had a bunch of under 1 gig hospital content drives to erase/destroy. My

Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread mkehoe
I need to move my internal hard drives, including the start-up drive from a G4 dual 867mHz to a G4 1.25mHz. They are from the same line, August 2002. I have made a clone of the start-up as a back-up copy. Can I just move the hard drives from the 867 to the 1.25, and boot up the 1.25

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Nestamicky
On 9/23/09 6:38 AM, Mel wrote: I've swapped boot HDs and booted the receiving CPU without incident several times among various G4s Mel, did your app worked after this? Would transferring just the application folder from one machine to another result in the same?

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Mel
complete backups. --- On Wed, 9/23/09, Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: From: Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 6:06 AM On 9/23/09 6:38 AM, Mel wrote: I've swapped boot

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread mkehoe
Both are MDD dual G4 from this line: CPU CPU: PowerPC 7455 G4 CPU Speed: 2x867 MHz/2x1.0 GHz/2x1.25 GHz FPU: integrated Bus Speed: 166 MHz Data Path Width: 64 bit Address Width: 32 bit ROM: 1 MB ROM + 3 MB toolbox ROM loaded into RAM RAM Type: PC2700 DDR Minimum RAM Speed: 333 MHz Onboard RAM: 0

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:42 AM, mkehoe wrote: I need to move my internal hard drives, including the start-up drive from a G4 dual 867mHz to a G4 1.25mHz. They are from the same line, August 2002. I have made a clone of the start-up as a back-up copy. Yep, no issues at all. The drive in my

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Nestamicky wrote: On 9/23/09 6:38 AM, Mel wrote: I've swapped boot HDs and booted the receiving CPU without incident several times among various G4s Mel, did your app worked after this? In my case all apps worked...a HD is a 'total brian transplant' and OS X

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Len Gerstel
On Sep 23, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Nestamicky wrote: Would transferring just the application folder from one machine to another result in the same? iTunes, (and possibly other applications) uses the MAC address of the built-in ethernet for

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 23, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Sep 23, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Nestamicky wrote: Would transferring just the application folder from one machine to another result in the same? iTunes, (and possibly other applications)

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Dan
At 11:20 AM -0700 9/23/2009, mkehoe wrote: Bruce others - I appreciate your comments. This is the first time I am changing from one computer to another. I want to make sure I understand about the process of authorization. This has nothing to do with just moving the HDs - the OS and apps

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread mkehoe
Thanks Bruce Dan - I don't have any music purchased from iTunes, so it sounds like I can just shut down the 867mHz G4, take out the hard drives, and install them into the 1.25mHz G4 and power it up. Correct? Mira On Sep 23, 1:49 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 11:20 AM -0700 9/23

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Jonas Ulrich
iTunes, so it sounds like I can just shut down the 867mHz G4, take out the hard drives, and install them into the 1.25mHz G4 and power it up. Correct? Mira On Sep 23, 1:49 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 11:20 AM -0700 9/23/2009, mkehoe wrote: Bruce others - I appreciate your

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 23, 2009, at 12:37 PM, mkehoe wrote: Thanks Bruce Dan - I don't have any music purchased from iTunes, so it sounds like I can just shut down the 867mHz G4, take out the hard drives, and install them into the 1.25mHz G4 and power it up. Yep. Make sure you don't take the extra

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Mel
...@gmail.com wrote: From: mkehoe mirake...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 12:37 PM Thanks Bruce Dan - I don't have any music purchased from iTunes, so it sounds like I can just shut down

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 23, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Mel wrote: Here is a suggestion that I believe will be better for you. Have you considered buying a used second HD. If you do, install it as a slave in your current CPU. Use CCC to clone it. Restart and reboot holding down the option key. When the

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Clark Martin
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 23, 2009, at 12:37 PM, mkehoe wrote: Thanks Bruce Dan - I don't have any music purchased from iTunes, so it sounds like I can just shut down the 867mHz G4, take out the hard drives, and install them into the 1.25mHz G4 and power it up. Yep. Make sure

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Sam Macomber
On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 23, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Make sure you don't take the extra step of dropping the hard drive onto the concrete floor like I did one time. :-) I thought we all had to do that once. It was some sort of

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Clark Martin
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 23, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Make sure you don't take the extra step of dropping the hard drive onto the concrete floor like I did one time. :-) I thought we all had to do that once. It was some sort of requirement. You notice they never

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Mel
Yes indeed that is what I suggested.  Test it first in the G4 after cloning to see if it boots.  If it does, then make the RR. --- On Wed, 9/23/09, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Subject: Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Charles Lenington
Clark Martin wrote: I thought we all had to do that once. It was some sort of requirement. You notice they never drop on foam padding or even carpet, only on concrete. Now of course there is the on purpose power up drive , quicky pull power and drop on floor/ The noise is fun. We had a

Green hard drives

2009-03-26 Thread Steve R
Now that more manufacturers are coming out with the so-called 'green' drives, and since there is a current thread on servers, I'm wondering if green drives are counter-intuitive for those wanting to upgrade servers that are rarely in an idle mode? Steve R

Re: Green hard drives

2009-03-26 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Mar 26, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Steve R wrote: Now that more manufacturers are coming out with the so-called 'green' drives, and since there is a current thread on servers, I'm wondering if green drives are counter-intuitive for those wanting to upgrade servers that are rarely in an idle

Re: Green hard drives

2009-03-26 Thread Steve R
At 1:16 PM -0700 3/26/09, Bruce Johnson posted: On Mar 26, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Steve R wrote: Now that more manufacturers are coming out with the so-called 'green' drives, and since there is a current thread on servers, I'm wondering if green drives are counter-intuitive for those wanting

Re: Green hard drives

2009-03-26 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Mar 26, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Steve R wrote: At 1:16 PM -0700 3/26/09, Bruce Johnson posted: On Mar 26, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Steve R wrote: Now that more manufacturers are coming out with the so-called 'green' drives, and since there is a current thread on servers, I'm wondering if

Re: Green hard drives

2009-03-26 Thread Steve R
At 1:55 PM -0700 3/26/09, Bruce Johnson posted: On Mar 26, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Steve R wrote: At 1:16 PM -0700 3/26/09, Bruce Johnson posted: On Mar 26, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Steve R wrote: Now that more manufacturers are coming out with the so-called 'green' drives, and since there is

WTB: 80 to 120 GB 3.5 internal Ultra ATA hard drives for PowerMac G4

2009-03-12 Thread BillBoggs
working internal hard drives for use in a PowerMac G4. I will pay quickly via Paypal. Thanks! Bill --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs

Re: acceptable hard drives for G3 iMac?

2009-03-10 Thread Clark Martin
mythmaker18 wrote: Thanks, Clark. I just wanted to be sure, since I remember having overheating problems with some non-original-spec hard drives in the cramped 6100 case. I never had problems with HDs in a 6100 (lots of them) including up to 1Gb drives. The only system I ever had trouble

Re: acceptable hard drives for G3 iMac?

2009-03-10 Thread jonas ulrich
i have had plenty of g3 imacs all with different upgraded hard drives. I had one that I would leave on for weeks on end. Never a problem.-Jonas On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: mythmaker18 wrote: Thanks, Clark. I just wanted to be sure, since I remember

acceptable hard drives for G3 iMac?

2009-03-09 Thread mythmaker18
I've got a couple G3 iMacs I inherited and was planning to fix them up for family, one 350 slot-loaded and one 500 slot-loaded. Unfortunately, one of them had the HD removed. On most Macs, I'd just slap in one I have lying around, but as the iMac is a closed computer, I'm concerned that sticking

Re: acceptable hard drives for G3 iMac?

2009-03-09 Thread pdimage
On 9/3/09 14:38, mythmaker18 mythmake...@yahoo.com wrote: I've got a couple G3 iMacs I inherited and was planning to fix them up for family, one 350 slot-loaded and one 500 slot-loaded. Unfortunately, one of them had the HD removed. On most Macs, I'd just slap in one I have lying around,

Re: acceptable hard drives for G3 iMac?

2009-03-09 Thread Clark Martin
mythmaker18 wrote: I've got a couple G3 iMacs I inherited and was planning to fix them up for family, one 350 slot-loaded and one 500 slot-loaded. Unfortunately, one of them had the HD removed. On most Macs, I'd just slap in one I have lying around, but as the iMac is a closed computer,

Re: acceptable hard drives for G3 iMac?

2009-03-09 Thread mythmaker18
Thanks, Clark. I just wanted to be sure, since I remember having overheating problems with some non-original-spec hard drives in the cramped 6100 case. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group

Re: G3 Beige MT with Two IDE Hard Drives

2009-03-06 Thread ron
On Mar 4, 9:19 pm, rtows...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 3/4/09 8:31:11 PM, wmhatch...@gmail.com writes: I have inherited a Beige G3 Minitower with 2 IDE hard drives, The issue is that boot ups are very slow almost like the machine is searching for a startup disk.  The thing

Re: G3 Beige MT with Two IDE Hard Drives

2009-03-06 Thread PeterH
On Mar 6, 2009, at 1:02 AM, ron wrote: I have inherited a Beige G3 Minitower with 2 IDE hard drives, The issue is that boot ups are very slow almost like the machine is searching for a startup disk. The thing that you are not paying attention to is the fact that a Beige G3 normally

Re: G3 Beige MT with Two IDE Hard Drives

2009-03-06 Thread Dan A. Currie
ron wrote: On Mar 4, 9:19 pm, rtows...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 3/4/09 8:31:11 PM, wmhatch...@gmail.com writes: I have inherited a Beige G3 Minitower with 2 IDE hard drives, The issue is that boot ups are very slow almost like the machine is searching for a startup disk

2 Monitors, a Radeon and an NVIDIA (was Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting)

2009-03-04 Thread Yersinia
Aaron writes, The Radeon 9200 will drive two monitors by itself! From the manufacturer's web site: Advanced Dual Display Support Drive two displays simultaneously with independent resolutions and refresh rates Specifications ... Integrated TV-Out supports up

Re: 2 Monitors, a Radeon and an NVIDIA (was Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting)

2009-03-04 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Yersinia yersi...@cybernex.net wrote: Aaron writes, The Radeon 9200 will drive two monitors by itself! From the manufacturer's web site: Advanced Dual Display Support Drive two displays simultaneously with independent resolutions and

G3 Beige MT with Two IDE Hard Drives

2009-03-04 Thread Will_i_am
I have inherited a Beige G3 Minitower with 2 IDE hard drives, one is ~20 Gb while the other is ~30 Gb. On one is MacOS 9.2 while on the other is MacOS 8.6. The issue is that boot ups are very slow almost like the machine is searching for a startup disk. The system is maxed out insofar

Re: G3 Beige MT with Two IDE Hard Drives

2009-03-04 Thread PeterH
is causing such intolerably slow (up to 1 minute or more) boot ups when the start up disk has been specifically selected under control panels. One doesn't normally place hard drives on the optical bus, although the two Beige G3 buses are identical. I used to manufacture a special dual drive

Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting

2009-03-04 Thread tonycd
It appears the interface in my FireWire enclosure is in fact dead. I've ordered a replacement case. But now, due to the good advices of Clark, Kris and the others on this board, I can do so in the knowledge that I actually need it and aren't just wasting my money. My thanks to all of you. On

Re: G3 Beige MT with Two IDE Hard Drives

2009-03-04 Thread RTOWSLEY
In a message dated 3/4/09 8:31:11 PM, wmhatch...@gmail.com writes: I have inherited a Beige G3 Minitower with 2 IDE hard drives, one is ~20 Gb while the other is ~30 Gb.  On one is MacOS 9.2 while on the other is MacOS 8.6.  The issue is that boot ups are very slow almost like the machine

Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting

2009-03-03 Thread Aaron
At 18:35 -0500 2009/03/02, Yersinia wrote: Removing the NVIDIA would mean not being able to use the second monitor anymore! No! See below! I had originally asked him to remove the NVIDIA last year (Feb 2008) because I had bought a Radeon 9200 which I thought would be better, so he took the

Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting

2009-03-02 Thread Aaron
At 18:11 -0800 2009/03/01, tonycd wrote: As for which is first, I don't think the Panther one is #1 (I think it's #3), but I can't be sure because now I can't see the sequence. But, yes... in a masterpiece of poor planning, I think the Panther one is probably the only one that's BIGGER

Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting

2009-03-02 Thread Aaron
: Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting At 18:11 -0800 2009/03/01, tonycd wrote: As for which is first, I don't think the Panther one is #1 (I think it's #3), but I can't be sure because now I can't see the sequence. But, yes... in a masterpiece of poor planning, I think the Panther one

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