Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-20 Thread Austin Leeds
Aha! That's why--the 800x600 iBook and the 1024x768 Pismo! Fewer pixels to draw ought to make it easier to render. Austin Leeds Sent from my iPad On Jun 20, 2011, at 12:10 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: > On Jun 17, 2011, at 6:06 PM, John Carmonne wrote: > >> I wish just once I could see the magic G

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-20 Thread Austin Leeds
www.online-convert.com converts YouTube to MOV, and fairly quickly I might add. I've been watching YouTube videos on my 300 MHz clamshell that way. Also, my 500 MHz Pismo can watch YouTube videos with almost no jerkiness at 240p. Same with my 800 MHz iMac G4, only not quite as much so. I'm think

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-19 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 17, 2011, at 6:06 PM, John Carmonne wrote: I wish just once I could see the magic G4 500's that run "You Tube" just fine. I have G4's from G4 500, 867, 800, 1.0, 1.2, and 1.25GHz not one of them will play a smooth You Tube flick. I agree, but it may not be the CPU that's the bottlen

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-19 Thread John Carmonne
On Jun 17, 2011, at 3:54 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Yes a G4 will not play Netflix, but other than that it will serve the average computer user. The higher end G4's WILL run Hulu, and Youtube. Actually even some of the lower end G4's, like my Dual 500MHZ run Youtube fine. If someone wants

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-19 Thread Austin Leeds
Well said, irrational John. My tangerine iBook is on the way ^_^. Obviously, nobody here will want it, but I will probably offer it on the LEM Swap group or on the Facebook group. It'll be almost identical to my current "resurrected" iBook, including (if I put it on the FB group) Adobe Photosh

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-19 Thread iJohn
The problem with this discussion in my opinion is that everyone is correct but you all seem to have a hard time seeing it. I think what matters most when pairing a computer with a person is what that person is going to do with the computer. For those with a heavy tilt towards consuming video, an o

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-17 Thread Austin Leeds
That's generally been my finding. Also, you have to consider the "average": the average person in San Francisco, New York, or Chicago is not the average person in Iowa, even in Des Moines. Many rural or small town folks don't want a computer that's faster than their neighbors--they want one that

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-17 Thread JoeTaxpayer
I've been following this thread. Well said, Jonas. Funny, there will always be those who have a negative remark. I don't know if it's 50%, 75%, 82%, but I suspect there are a good number of folk who would be better served by a MDD G4 than their present PC. Throw on a copy of TeamViewer and you can

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-17 Thread Jonas Ulrich
I totally agree with Austin. I hardly ever have to do anything with my moms eMac. Bruce, my mom's PC didn't really need to be replaced, just cleaned up as you said. However, my point was that it turned out WAY better to use a Mac that was 6+ years older than to bother cleaning the PC. Aside from t

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-17 Thread Austin Leeds
Actually, I'm away at classes most of the day, so they have to figure it out how to solve problems for themselves… which they can, 'cause it's a Mac ^_^ Also, I was the one who upgraded our PC to Windows 7… after which I decided that Ubuntu was clearly the better course. Austin Leeds Sent fr

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-17 Thread Austin Leeds
> The problem here, of course, is that you need to: > > Be able to teach technical stuff to non-technical people. > Be deeply knowledgeable about BOTH platforms. Done and done. I've already converted several people at DMACC... by showing them my Pismo PowerBook and my PowerBook 180 ^_^ Austin

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-17 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 17, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: > Am I the only one realizing that your "new Winbox for $300-$400 running Win7 > with modern multi-core cpus", will be running like crap after a few months? Uhh, yes, because, no they don't run like crap after a few months. I use them daily. I h

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-17 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Austin Leeds wrote: > Word up! My parents get way more use from our iMac G4 (2002--$275) than our > HP Pavilion (2008--$799). > > Austin Leeds > Sent from my iPad Aaaand how much of that is due to having an in-house IT staff person who like Macs, and works for

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-17 Thread Austin Leeds
Word up! My parents get way more use from our iMac G4 (2002--$275) than our HP Pavilion (2008--$799). Austin Leeds Sent from my iPad On Jun 17, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: > Am I the only one realizing that your "new Winbox for $300-$400 running Win7 > with modern multi-core cpus"

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-17 Thread Jonas Ulrich
Am I the only one realizing that your "new Winbox for $300-$400 running Win7 with modern multi-core cpus", will be running like crap after a few months? Whereas your mac, no matter how old, will be running great. For the average computer user, they don't NEED a new PC, and the old Mac will work out

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-17 Thread Austin Leeds
Yes indeed. I'm already running a daily paper route and freelance writing for LEM for most of my income—and I might try to apply for a job at BestBuy (or the like) once I start taking my network admin classes next fall. This would be a pastime for me, since I just love to see these old machines

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-17 Thread Al Poulin
On Jun 17, 11:33 am, Austin Leeds wrote: > > Now, maybe I'm missing something. Maybe it's not this simple. But if you > add up the numbers and aren't looking to turn a huge profit (which I'm > not), it might be a cool way to earn cash on the side. > > Obviously, I'm going to cautiously test the w

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-17 Thread Austin Leeds
Yes, but you have to consider that a miniscule proportion of the population actually knows the real performance differences between CPUs. Many people I've met (and by many, I mean most) only judge responsiveness as a measurement of speed, and this, thankfully, can be fudged by adding an SSD, du

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-17 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 17, 2011, at 1:24 AM, Matevž Markovič wrote: > Guys, I agree with Jonas Ulrich. I use my PowerMac MDD Dual 1.25 for my own > research into theory of numbers and it is performing very well! So far it > had over 900 hours of computing time in last few months, and it still > performs well.

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-17 Thread Matevž Markovič
Guys, I agree with Jonas Ulrich. I use my PowerMac MDD Dual 1.25 for my own research into theory of numbers and it is performing very well! So far it had over 900 hours of computing time in last few months, and it still performs well. Be well -- You received this message because you are a member

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-16 Thread Austin Leeds
Well, I guess there's always the cheating way: get a cheap working Mac from a non-techy and sell it for more than you bought it for. Looking at some completed listings on eBay shows that this could actually work, if I market it right (hey, just like Apple ^_^). On Jun 16, 9:20 pm, iJohn wrote: >

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-16 Thread iJohn
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Austin Leeds wrote: > I've been doing a little looking around on eBay lately, as well as my > college, and I'm perceiving a market for inexpensive but useable > computers. Having looked about on eBay a month or three ago when a friend's eMac was showing signs of a

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-16 Thread Jonas Ulrich
If I had to choose personally, I would take a G4 over ANY Windows system, because in my honest opinion, Windows, any version of it, absolutely SUCKS. It might run great for a few months, but even with virus protection it will be slowing down pretty fast. I have used Windows machines, and Mac OSX ma

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-16 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 16, 2011, at 6:27 PM, Austin Leeds wrote: What Macs would be good fixer-uppers for profit, then? The premise seems relatively unsound to me. The best way to make a profit from a cheaply acquired Mac would be to part it out for individual components. The idea that you can "add value"

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-16 Thread Austin Leeds
Hmm, these are some good points to consider. Personally, I find a lot of indifference where I'm at—if it feels responsive (a little SSD will do that), can surf the web (mostly Facebook), and is cheaper than a new computer, people will buy it. My parents have really enjoyed our iMac G4, for instance

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-16 Thread Powermac
Flashplayer 10.3 isn't supported on the G4 (forget the last version that was). You can't do Netflix either unless you have an Intel mac. You can play youtube videos as long as they are not HD, even some of the 480p ones get choppy sometimes. Yes you can get virus on a PC, but most issues are just

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-16 Thread JoeTaxpayer
My G4 plays youtube just fine. It also digitizes video, edits it and burns DVDs. It performs better than many late model PCs I've seen, and it's rock solid. It will play the grandson's video just fine. The PC will quickly get a virus and grandma's bank account will be ripped off a week later. I can

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-16 Thread Powermac
Sure, there is a market for ripping off the elderly (which is what happens). You can buy brand new netbooks extremely cheap, why mess around with an old bulky clunker that will not work with skype or youtube? I don't see how OSX is any better then Windows XP/7 for a person who isn't a big computer

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-16 Thread S T
This is so true, Joe. That's one reason I bought an iPad. It's great for email, browsing, movies/music. The G4 systems are just as usable, and they're stable, Macs don't have to worry about virii (often, and they're all on Intel-based systems anyway), so no repair costs there. And I still hav

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-16 Thread JoeTaxpayer
This is true. On the other hand, I can't help but wonder if there's a business in setting up old people with these systems. The usability beats PCs, and for email and browsing, these machines still have some life. I know PC owners paying for techs to come "repair" their systems, replacing one card

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-16 Thread Powermac
$30 for 4 GB. > > Albert > > > From: Austin Leeds > To: G-Group > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:58 AM > Subject: Selling upgraded Macs > > Hi all, > > I've been doing a little looking around on eBay lately, as well as my > college, and I'm per

Re: Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-16 Thread Albert Carter
stick when the current RAM is going for $30 for 4 GB. Albert From: Austin Leeds To: G-Group Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:58 AM Subject: Selling upgraded Macs Hi all, I've been doing a little looking around on eBay lately, as well as my college, an

Selling upgraded Macs

2011-06-16 Thread Austin Leeds
Hi all, I've been doing a little looking around on eBay lately, as well as my college, and I'm perceiving a market for inexpensive but useable computers. Many students at my community college aren't exactly rich, so many of them try to buy inexpensive laptops or have to use our buggy at best compu