Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread James Therrault
On Apr 28, 2010, at 11:15 PM, Dan wrote: At 12:01 AM -0400 4/29/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Oh really? Then how come i am able to install tiger on multiple computers without activation or licence errors? Not sure to what exactly you're commenting. Apple chooses to trust its customers,

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread Dan
At 9:56 AM -0500 4/29/2010, James Therrault wrote: On Apr 28, 2010, at 11:15 PM, Dan wrote: At 12:01 AM -0400 4/29/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Oh really? Then how come i am able to install tiger on multiple computers without activation or licence errors? Not sure to what exactly you're

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread James Therrault
On Apr 29, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Dan wrote: At 9:56 AM -0500 4/29/2010, James Therrault wrote: On Apr 28, 2010, at 11:15 PM, Dan wrote: At 12:01 AM -0400 4/29/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Oh really? Then how come i am able to install tiger on multiple computers without activation or licence

Re: slow flash drive

2010-04-29 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Apr 28, 2010, at 6:57 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: did you format it? Yes they all come FAT 32 so for a Mac it needs to be formated. I just never had one so slow, I thought they're all the same in that respect. Actually no they don't. OS X reads/writes FAT32 devices just fine, and the

Re: slow flash drive

2010-04-29 Thread Carmonne
The only two reasins to format it HFS are: 1) Keep nosy PC users from seeing what's on your device, maybe. 2) Setting one up as a bootable device, which probably also requires  re-partitioning them. I have problems with FAT 32 flash drives showing Mac files. I once copied an

Re: File Recovery

2010-04-29 Thread Cliff Rediger
On Apr 28, 1:02 pm, Baha Ata baha...@gmail.com wrote: BUT NEVER WRITE ANYTHING ON THE DISCS that you try to rescue and NEVER USE THEM. Data rescue take data from them and write another disc, no change on old drive... That's the best way. I'm running 10.4.11 on a Mini G4. Hmm. Since I

Re: slow flash drive

2010-04-29 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Apr 28, 2010, at 8:18 PM, iJohn wrote: It's easy enough to get a ballpark guess figure these days with Win 7 by just moving files and asking for details. I don't know how to guess at transfer speeds in OS X though ... except by copying a file and measuring the time by watching the clock.

Re: File Recovery

2010-04-29 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Apr 29, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Cliff Rediger wrote: I'm running 10.4.11 on a Mini G4. Hmm. Since I inadvertently cloned from a smaller drive (d1) to a larger drive, thus erasing most of what was on the larger drive (d2) I'm suddenly thinking that any recovery will require a third drive (d3) of

Re: slow flash drive

2010-04-29 Thread iJohn
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=1048576 of=/Volumes/MyUSBstick/gigabyte.file I went with Dan's method ... it just seemed easier. Can't say why though. ;-) For my 2008 white MacBook 500GB Hitatchi hard drive: write: 37.7 MiB/sec

Re: slow flash drive

2010-04-29 Thread iJohn
FWIW, since I wanted to move an AVI file from my MacBook to one of my desktop hard drives, I measured the transfer speeds of the old 1GB Verbatim flash drive I used to move the file. (Would that be circa 2005?? I don't remember when 1GB was the current cheap flash capacity). write: 5.2 MiB/sec

Re: slow flash drive

2010-04-29 Thread Dan
At 4:03 PM -0400 4/29/2010, iJohn wrote: On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=1048576 of=/Volumes/MyUSBstick/gigabyte.file I went with Dan's method ... it just seemed easier. Can't say why though. ;-) For my 2008 white MacBook 500GB

Re: slow flash drive

2010-04-29 Thread Dan
At 4:43 PM -0400 4/29/2010, iJohn wrote: FWIW, since I wanted to move an AVI file from my MacBook to one of my desktop hard drives, I measured the transfer speeds of the old 1GB Verbatim flash drive I used to move the file. (Would that be circa 2005?? I don't remember when 1GB was the current

Re: slow flash drive

2010-04-29 Thread iJohn
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:31 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Hi a\All I'm moving a 1.25 GB file from one machine to another and this thing ... took about 30 mins., I should have done the arithmetic long before this, but unless you're way off on your numbers. 1.25 GB in 1800 seconds

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
I know Apple decided to trust it's users, but the thing is, If they only provide one license when you buy a DVD (let's say it's OS X SL), why does it still allow you to install even though the license was only supposed to be used once? --  Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread Ted Treen
Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I know Apple decided to trust it's users, but the thing is, If they only provide one license when you buy a DVD (let's say it's OS X SL), why does it still allow you to install even though the license was only supposed to be used once? Pray tell me how in God's name

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I know Apple decided to trust it's users, but the thing is, If they only provide one license when you buy a DVD (let's say it's OS X SL), why does it still allow you to install even though the license was only supposed to be used once?

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Apr 29, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Ted Treen wrote: Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I know Apple decided to trust it's users, but the thing is, If they only provide one license when you buy a DVD (let's say it's OS X SL), why does it still allow you to install even though the license was only supposed

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Apr 29, 2010, at 3:32 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: Pray tell me how in God's name you're going to add an installation counter to a pressed read-only CD/DVD? Windbloze does it and anything you install on a PC normally will try to shake you down. No, Windows does NOT do this. There's

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread John Niven
--- On Thu, 4/29/10, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: Windbloze does it and anything you install on a PC normally will try to shake you down. In the Windows case you HAVE to register with MS after an initial period since the install. The difference between MS and Apple is MS makes its

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Apr 29, 2010, at 3:53 PM, John Niven wrote: I just pre-ordered a 3G iPad and find it annoying that I HAVE to have Leopard to use it with a Mac (I'm currently still using Tiger) but I can use it with Windows XP if I want. This clearly illustrates Apples marketing strategy! It does

Re: [Bulk] Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread iJohn
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: However, Windows phones home with the info and serial number when you connect to the internet. Yes, when you authenticate. If you don't authenticate then after some period (30 days?? for Win 7??) then as you say,

Re: [Bulk] Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Apr 29, 2010, at 4:45 PM, iJohn wrote: The thing that I never see people talk about is that everything Microsoft does by way of authentication is neither free nor a one-time expense. They continually pay to support their authentication function. Obviously there is the cost of keeping the

Re: [Bulk] Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread Albert Carter
This is not true. The only thing that is different about the distribution of Windows 7 from XP and Vista is that the DVDs contain both the 32-bit and the x64 version of code. There are still individual discs for Home Premium, Professional, Ultimate, and Enterprise.

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread iJohn
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: People buying upgrades and folks setting up a handful of DIY boxes for their business or something run into these hassles, but frankly, these people are small fry, and MS doesn't really give a crap about them.

Re: [Bulk] Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread iJohn
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Albert Carter slvrmoonti...@yahoo.com wrote: This is not true. The only thing that is different about the distribution of Windows 7 from XP and Vista is that the DVDs contain both the 32-bit and the x64 version of code. There are still individual discs for Home

Unique database?

2010-04-29 Thread Nestamicky
Here's what I'm looking for: a program that will go fetch all the information on an audio CD and then presents them in a simple text format that I can copy and paste...just like iTunes does it. But that only shows the name of the cd, title, year of publication. I want to be able to say, yes,

Re: File Recovery

2010-04-29 Thread Cliff Rediger
On Apr 29, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Cliff Rediger wrote: I'm suddenly thinking that any recovery will require a third drive (d3) of equal size to the d2. On Apr 29, 10:09 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: As a rule of thumb always ALWAYS ALWAYS do data recovery to a clean  

Re: File Recovery

2010-04-29 Thread Cliff Rediger
On Apr 29, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Cliff Rediger wrote: I'm suddenly thinking that any recovery will require a third drive (d3) of equal size to the d2. On Apr 29, 10:09 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: As a rule of thumb always ALWAYS ALWAYS do data recovery to a clean  

Re: File Recovery

2010-04-29 Thread Cliff Rediger
On Apr 29, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Cliff Rediger wrote: I'm suddenly thinking that any recovery will require a third drive (d3) of equal size to the d2. On Apr 29, 10:09 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: As a rule of thumb always ALWAYS ALWAYS do data recovery to a clean

{Manager Comment] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread Fabian Fang
[ I am top-posting because of the length of the following Off-Topic message. ] It appears that this thread has just about run its course. Discussions about PC notebooks, or most other laptops, installations of Windows 7, whatever version, authentication by Microsoft, etc., etc., are

Re: Right group for questions about exporting from G4 QS to a Macbook SL

2010-04-29 Thread dorayme
On Mar 9, 7:53 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Mar 8, 2010, at 2:44 PM, dorayme wrote: Thanks *very much* for this, just what I wanted to know! Good, one   less thing to worry about then. Also, if your needs for Windows programs don't include gaming-type  

Tracing hot keys

2010-04-29 Thread Cliff Rediger
Mini G4 10.4.11 I use a screen capture software that I access with the hot keys command-shift-4 which gives me a little circle with cross hairs and and drag a section and it snaps a jpg to the desktop. I seem to recall that I loaded this app because it permits selection of the image format

Re: File Recovery

2010-04-29 Thread Kris Tilford
On Apr 29, 2010, at 9:09 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote: Data Rescue provides a demo mode which allows one to scan for files and download one recovered file. This scan reveals nothing on the drive other than the cloned files. My SuperDuper settings call for smart update which mimics the complete

Re: Tracing hot keys

2010-04-29 Thread Bill Connelly
Anyway, for the life of me I cannot remember or locate this app (even though it works). If the app is in the Dock, you can command-click on it and it opens a Finder window showing you where it is ... at least under Leopard 10.5.8. -- You received this message because you are a member of

Re: Tracing hot keys

2010-04-29 Thread Dan Auerbach
On Apr 29, 2010, at 11:28 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote: Anyway, for the life of me I cannot remember or locate this app (even though it works). Is there a way to trace the hot keys to the app. ? It is one of a set of built in to the OS hot keys that executes code and I don't think that there