Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?
Thanks Mel. It ain't a stupid question at all. Well, the thing is, I make videos with Final Cut that consist largely of pans and zooms on photos. I made one recently about art that showed a lot of paintings that were scanned from slides (you can see it on YouTube at http:// tinyurl.com/6e698m). Anyway, so these videos consist of photos and more photos, often in the original form of negatives and slides of various formats, up to 6 X 6 cm, and they all have to be scanned and digitized before I can use them. What I wanted was the speed and convenience of being able to run Final Cut and the Minolta film scanner at the same time, on the same computer, and in the same OS, so as to be able to scan photos and immediately drop them into Final Cut without needing to shut down Final Cut and boot back into other versions of the OS, or go to another computer entirely to scan the pictures and then move them over to the Mac that's running Final Cut. Just looking for convenience and speed, an efficient workflow I guess they call it. But I guess, as you say, time has left the Minolta film scanner and the SCSI interface behind, so we must make do with what we have. Replacement film scanners with USB or SCSI interface that can do what the Minolta does cost upwards of $2000. So, since the new G5 I just bought cannot run an OS earlier than 10.4, and you can't get inexpensive SCSI cards for it either, I'll simply have to keep my old Quicksilver around and use it as a dedicated film scanning station. Or maybe try a SCSI-to-USB adapter as Kris suggested, and see if the G5 can run the film scanner that way, with the less capable VueScan software. Thanks Kris. Trade-offs: with the new G5, I gain the video editing capability of Final Cut Pro and some processor speed, but I leave behind my film scanner, and have to run it with another computer, and then move files between computers. So it goes, as computer technology races on. Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?
On 21-10-2008 17:59, Tom, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: snip What I wanted was the speed and convenience of being able to run Final snip to the Mac that's running Final Cut. Just looking for convenience and speed, an efficient workflow I snip between computers. So it goes, as computer technology races on. Tom Hello Tom, A friend has a MDD DP 1.25, 2 GB RAM, 10.4.11, running, ae, FC Pro, CS III and Graphic Converter. He has connected 2 scanners: A Heidelberg Linoscan 2650 over FW and using Linocolor Elite 6.?.? A Minolta filmscanner (Dimage Scan Multi II) using SilverFast ?.?.?. and connected with a RATOC FW - Ultra SCSI Converter FR1SX. All is working in the way you are wanting. For more details I'll have to wait till Monday when my friend will be back from a mini-safari. HTH, Jo Hissel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?
Also a G4 or a G3 BW hardly takes any space and RAM is inexpensive as are internal Hard drives. --- On Sun, 10/19/08, aussieshepsrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: aussieshepsrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come? To: G3-5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 3:03 PM Thanks Mel, Does anyone have any further input on my suggestion beyond what Mel had to say? Richard On Oct 16, 9:28 pm, Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You thinking is spot on especially when there are a plethora of inexpensive used G4s that will do the job perfectly. Plus a spare computer is always nice to have around. Mel --- On Thu, 10/16/08, aussieshepsrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: aussieshepsrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come? To: G3-5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 4:21 PM HiYa Tom, This may be a stupid question, but upon scanning through this thread a very straight forward solution is jumping out at me. That solution is to operate in 10.3 to use this scanner. The 'stupid' question is whether that overlooks anything seriously important to the functionality or 'safety' of Tom's hardware. I know for a fact that to choose the SCSI Scanner Tom has decided upon to undertake his Slide Scanning with means he took the Much LESS Expensive route for accomplishing it. He was able to do so because he has a SCSI capable computer. If the march of time in the OS world left the Minolta Software behind, I am of the opinion that he should go Oh Well and continue to use 10.3 until his scanning is done. If it's necessary to keep both 10.3 and 10.4 OS's around, it's a small inconvenience to live with -Unless- there are technical obstacles to that. Personally, I'm of the mind that if 10.4 is a requirement for Tom to be in or primarily use, get another quicksilver or a more upscale machine and dedicate one to his Film Scanning. It might also speed up his scanning a lot because he can fiddle away on one Mac while the other fiddles away on his scanning. Please Enlighten Me on any 'holes' in my thoughts on Tom's obstacles here. Knowlege is a wonderful thing. Richard On Oct 14, 10:52 pm, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Quicksilver 1GHz DP running 10.4.11, with a SCSI card (Adaptec 2930) in it to run a big old SCSI Minolta film scanner (Dimage Scan Multi II). The scanner came with its proprietary Minolta software (Dimage Scan Utility), which works very well, but it only works in in 10.3.9. So, to use the scanner, I have to reboot back into 10.3.9 (which is on an external hard drive), do the scans in 10.3, and then reboot into 10.4 again to use them. This is OK, but slow and kind of a nuisance. I sure wish I could scan film in 10.4.11. There are no updates on the Minolta website beyond what I have, which is 2004 software. Anybody got any idea why this software will work in 10.3, but not in 10.4, and how I might get it to work in 10.4? Thanks for any help! Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?
HiYa Tom, This may be a stupid question, but upon scanning through this thread a very straight forward solution is jumping out at me. That solution is to operate in 10.3 to use this scanner. The 'stupid' question is whether that overlooks anything seriously important to the functionality or 'safety' of Tom's hardware. I know for a fact that to choose the SCSI Scanner Tom has decided upon to undertake his Slide Scanning with means he took the Much LESS Expensive route for accomplishing it. He was able to do so because he has a SCSI capable computer. If the march of time in the OS world left the Minolta Software behind, I am of the opinion that he should go Oh Well and continue to use 10.3 until his scanning is done. If it's necessary to keep both 10.3 and 10.4 OS's around, it's a small inconvenience to live with -Unless- there are technical obstacles to that. Personally, I'm of the mind that if 10.4 is a requirement for Tom to be in or primarily use, get another quicksilver or a more upscale machine and dedicate one to his Film Scanning. It might also speed up his scanning a lot because he can fiddle away on one Mac while the other fiddles away on his scanning. Please Enlighten Me on any 'holes' in my thoughts on Tom's obstacles here. Knowlege is a wonderful thing. Richard On Oct 14, 10:52 pm, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Quicksilver 1GHz DP running 10.4.11, with a SCSI card (Adaptec 2930) in it to run a big old SCSI Minolta film scanner (Dimage Scan Multi II). The scanner came with its proprietary Minolta software (Dimage Scan Utility), which works very well, but it only works in in 10.3.9. So, to use the scanner, I have to reboot back into 10.3.9 (which is on an external hard drive), do the scans in 10.3, and then reboot into 10.4 again to use them. This is OK, but slow and kind of a nuisance. I sure wish I could scan film in 10.4.11. There are no updates on the Minolta website beyond what I have, which is 2004 software. Anybody got any idea why this software will work in 10.3, but not in 10.4, and how I might get it to work in 10.4? Thanks for any help! Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?
On 15/10/2008, at 1:52 PM, Tom wrote: I have a Quicksilver 1GHz DP running 10.4.11, with a SCSI card (Adaptec 2930) in it to run a big old SCSI Minolta film scanner (Dimage Scan Multi II). The scanner came with its proprietary Minolta software (Dimage Scan Utility), which works very well, but it only works in in 10.3.9. So, to use the scanner, I have to reboot back into 10.3.9 (which is on an external hard drive), do the scans in 10.3, and then reboot into 10.4 again to use them. This is OK, but slow and kind of a nuisance. I sure wish I could scan film in 10.4.11. There are no updates on the Minolta website beyond what I have, which is 2004 software. Anybody got any idea why this software will work in 10.3, but not in 10.4, and how I might get it to work in 10.4? Thanks for any help! Tom G'day Tom Try Vuescan http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html Regards Santa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?
On Oct 14, 2008, at 10:52 PM, Tom wrote: I have a Quicksilver 1GHz DP running 10.4.11, with a SCSI card (Adaptec 2930) in it to run a big old SCSI Minolta film scanner (Dimage Scan Multi II). The scanner came with its proprietary Minolta software (Dimage Scan Utility), which works very well, but it only works in in 10.3.9. So, to use the scanner, I have to reboot back into 10.3.9 (which is on an external hard drive), do the scans in 10.3, and then reboot into 10.4 again to use them. This is OK, but slow and kind of a nuisance. I sure wish I could scan film in 10.4.11. There are no updates on the Minolta website beyond what I have, which is 2004 software. Anybody got any idea why this software will work in 10.3, but not in 10.4, and how I might get it to work in 10.4? Thanks for any help! Tom -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- I have DIMAGE SCAN DUAL III, Mac Version 1.0.0 that works well on my QuickSilver (2002) w/ OS 10.4.11. My scanner is USB ported which may account for the difference. As I'm sure, you no doubt already know, Minolta sold out to Sony and you can go to the Sony site for info, although very little of it. Not much help I guess. John Callahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] If there are no dogs in Heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.¨ --Will Rogers extreme positive = (ybya2) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?
I'll check out the SCSI card driver update Kris, thanks. Don't know if that will fix the software, though. Got my fingers crossed. I'll report back when I try it, in a day or so. Too busy to fool with it just at the moment. Thanks Brian, I did buy VueScan, and it will run the scanner, all right, but very slowly, and with a clunky interface. The scanner works so slowly under VueScan that I sometimes think it didn't get a command, it just sits there idle for so long, and I'm about to give up when it finally starts to do something. And VueScan only has a fraction of the controls that the original Minolta software does, for correction of color, gamma, contrast, etc. It's loaded with all sorts of adjustment windows, sliders, and graphs. Best of all, the software runs the scanner really fast compared to VueScan. It responds to commands instantly. I'd sure like to get that Minolta software working in 10.4. John, I'm glad to see others still using these fine Dimage scanners. Do you have any idea where to get replacement lamps for them? They surely can't last forever, and if the lamps can't be bought anymore, there goes the scanner, to the junk pile. I've been worried about that. Minolta has bit the dust, and is out of the camera and scanner business. There is no more support. But surely there are enough of these Minoltas still in use for some manufacturer to stock bulbs for them, wouldn't you think? If you know of any source, please let me know. Thanks to all for the help! Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?
John, I'm glad to see others still using these fine Dimage scanners. Do you have any idea where to get replacement lamps for them? They surely can't last forever, and if the lamps can't be bought anymore, there goes the scanner, to the junk pile. I've been worried about that. Minolta has bit the dust, and is out of the camera and scanner business. There is no more support. But surely there are enough of these Minoltas still in use for some manufacturer to stock bulbs for them, wouldn't you think? If you know of any source, please let me know. Thanks to all for the help! Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Tom, no idea concerning replacement lamps unless you could identify the original lamp manufacturer. I've scanned over six thousand slides with mine and still have another three thousand to go. Works flawlessly. If you are interested I would be happy to let you use mine when I'm done with my slides. My first SLR was a Minolta and I was surprised and saddened when they went out of business. I've noticed a number of Minolta scanners on e-bay and at reasonable prices. I got mine on the LEM swap list and have been very pleased with it. Good luck. John Callahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] If there are no dogs in Heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.¨ --Will Rogers extreme positive = (ybya2) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?
On 15/10/2008, at 1:52 PM, Tom wrote: I have a Quicksilver 1GHz DP running 10.4.11, with a SCSI card (Adaptec 2930) in it to run a big old SCSI Minolta film scanner (Dimage Scan Multi II). The scanner came with its proprietary Minolta software (Dimage Scan Utility), which works very well, but it only works in in 10.3.9. So, to use the scanner, I have to reboot back into 10.3.9 (which is on an external hard drive), do the scans in 10.3, and then reboot into 10.4 again to use them. This is OK, but slow and kind of a nuisance. I sure wish I could scan film in 10.4.11. There are no updates on the Minolta website beyond what I have, which is 2004 software. Anybody got any idea why this software will work in 10.3, but not in 10.4, and how I might get it to work in 10.4? Thanks for any help! Tom G'day Tom Try Vuescan http://www.hamrick.com/ Apologies if this appears as a second post, but my first attempt did not come through to me. Regards Santa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?
I have a Quicksilver 1GHz DP running 10.4.11, with a SCSI card (Adaptec 2930) in it to run a big old SCSI Minolta film scanner (Dimage Scan Multi II). The scanner came with its proprietary Minolta software (Dimage Scan Utility), which works very well, but it only works in in 10.3.9. So, to use the scanner, I have to reboot back into 10.3.9 (which is on an external hard drive), do the scans in 10.3, and then reboot into 10.4 again to use them. This is OK, but slow and kind of a nuisance. I sure wish I could scan film in 10.4.11. There are no updates on the Minolta website beyond what I have, which is 2004 software. Anybody got any idea why this software will work in 10.3, but not in 10.4, and how I might get it to work in 10.4? Thanks for any help! Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?
On Oct 14, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Tom wrote: Anybody got any idea why this software will work in 10.3, but not in 10.4, and how I might get it to work in 10.4? It appears it may be a SCSI card problem with a fairly easy solution: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7011680 Hope this works. Good luck! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---