Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?

2008-10-21 Thread Tom

Thanks Mel. It ain't a stupid question at all. Well, the thing is, I
make videos with Final Cut that consist largely of pans and zooms on
photos. I made one recently about art that showed a lot of paintings
that were scanned from slides (you can see it on YouTube at http://
tinyurl.com/6e698m). Anyway, so these videos consist of photos and
more photos, often in the original form of negatives and slides of
various formats, up to 6 X 6 cm, and they all have to be scanned and
digitized before I can use them.

What I wanted was the speed and convenience of being able to run Final
Cut and the Minolta film scanner at the same time, on the same
computer, and in the same OS, so as to be able to scan photos and
immediately drop them into Final Cut without needing to shut down
Final Cut and boot back into other versions of the OS, or go to
another computer entirely to scan the pictures and then move them over
to the Mac that's running Final Cut.

Just looking for convenience and speed, an efficient workflow I
guess they call it. But I guess, as you say, time has left the Minolta
film scanner and the SCSI interface behind, so we must make do with
what we have. Replacement film scanners with USB or SCSI interface
that can do what the Minolta does cost upwards of $2000. So, since the
new G5 I just bought cannot run an OS earlier than 10.4, and you
can't get inexpensive SCSI cards for it either, I'll simply have to
keep my old Quicksilver around and use it as a dedicated film scanning
station.

Or maybe try a SCSI-to-USB adapter as Kris suggested, and see if the
G5 can run the film scanner that way, with the less capable VueScan
software. Thanks Kris.

Trade-offs: with the new G5, I gain the video editing capability of
Final Cut Pro and some processor speed, but I leave behind my film
scanner, and have to run it with another computer, and then move files
between computers. So it goes, as computer technology races on.

Tom
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Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?

2008-10-21 Thread J.M.P.Hissel

On 21-10-2008 17:59, Tom, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote:

 snip
 
 What I wanted was the speed and convenience of being able to run Final
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 to the Mac that's running Final Cut.
 
 Just looking for convenience and speed, an efficient workflow I
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 between computers. So it goes, as computer technology races on.
 
 Tom

Hello Tom,

A friend has a MDD DP 1.25, 2 GB RAM, 10.4.11, running, ae, FC Pro, CS III
and Graphic Converter. He has connected 2 scanners:
A Heidelberg Linoscan 2650 over FW and using Linocolor Elite 6.?.?
A Minolta filmscanner (Dimage Scan Multi II) using SilverFast ?.?.?. and
connected with a RATOC FW - Ultra SCSI Converter FR1SX.
All is working in the way you are wanting.
For more details I'll have to wait till Monday when my friend will be back
from a mini-safari.

HTH,

Jo Hissel






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Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?

2008-10-20 Thread Mel
Also a G4 or a G3 BW hardly takes any space and RAM is inexpensive as are 
internal Hard drives.

--- On Sun, 10/19/08, aussieshepsrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: aussieshepsrock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?
To: G3-5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 3:03 PM

Thanks Mel,
   Does anyone have any further input on my suggestion beyond what Mel
had to say?

Richard

On Oct 16, 9:28 pm, Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You thinking is spot on especially when there are a plethora of
inexpensive used G4s that will do the job perfectly. Plus a spare computer is
always nice to have around.

 Mel

 --- On Thu, 10/16/08, aussieshepsrock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 From: aussieshepsrock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?
 To: G3-5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 4:21 PM

 HiYa Tom,
    This may be a stupid question, but upon scanning through
this
 thread a very straight forward solution is jumping out at me. That
 solution is to operate in 10.3 to use this scanner. The 'stupid'
 question is whether that overlooks anything seriously important to the
 functionality or 'safety' of Tom's hardware. I know for a fact
that
 to
 choose the SCSI Scanner Tom has decided upon to undertake his Slide
 Scanning with means he took the Much LESS Expensive route for
 accomplishing it.  He was able to do so because he has a SCSI capable
 computer. If the march of time in the OS world left the Minolta
 Software behind, I am of the opinion that he should go Oh Well
and
 continue to use 10.3 until his scanning is done. If it's necessary to
 keep both 10.3 and 10.4 OS's around, it's a small inconvenience to
 live with -Unless- there are technical obstacles to that. Personally,
 I'm of the mind that if 10.4 is a requirement for Tom to be in or
 primarily use, get another quicksilver or a more upscale machine and
 dedicate one to his Film Scanning. It might also speed up his scanning
 a lot because he can fiddle away on one Mac while the other fiddles
 away on his scanning.

 Please Enlighten Me on any 'holes' in my thoughts on Tom's
 obstacles
 here. Knowlege is a wonderful thing.

 Richard

 On Oct 14, 10:52 pm, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I have a Quicksilver 1GHz DP running 10.4.11, with a SCSI card
  (Adaptec 2930) in it to run a big old SCSI Minolta film scanner
  (Dimage Scan Multi II). The scanner came with its proprietary Minolta
  software (Dimage Scan Utility), which works very well,
but it
 only
  works in in 10.3.9.

  So, to use the scanner, I have to reboot back into 10.3.9 (which is
on
  an external hard drive), do the scans in 10.3, and then reboot into
  10.4 again to use them. This is OK, but slow and kind of a nuisance.
I
  sure wish I could scan film in 10.4.11.

  There are no updates on the Minolta website beyond what I have, which
  is 2004 software.

  Anybody got any idea why this software will work in 10.3, but not in
  10.4, and how I might get it to work in 10.4?

  Thanks for any help!

  Tom


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Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?

2008-10-16 Thread aussieshepsrock

HiYa Tom,
   This may be a stupid question, but upon scanning through this
thread a very straight forward solution is jumping out at me. That
solution is to operate in 10.3 to use this scanner. The 'stupid'
question is whether that overlooks anything seriously important to the
functionality or 'safety' of Tom's hardware. I know for a fact that to
choose the SCSI Scanner Tom has decided upon to undertake his Slide
Scanning with means he took the Much LESS Expensive route for
accomplishing it.  He was able to do so because he has a SCSI capable
computer. If the march of time in the OS world left the Minolta
Software behind, I am of the opinion that he should go Oh Well and
continue to use 10.3 until his scanning is done. If it's necessary to
keep both 10.3 and 10.4 OS's around, it's a small inconvenience to
live with -Unless- there are technical obstacles to that. Personally,
I'm of the mind that if 10.4 is a requirement for Tom to be in or
primarily use, get another quicksilver or a more upscale machine and
dedicate one to his Film Scanning. It might also speed up his scanning
a lot because he can fiddle away on one Mac while the other fiddles
away on his scanning.

Please Enlighten Me on any 'holes' in my thoughts on Tom's obstacles
here. Knowlege is a wonderful thing.

Richard




On Oct 14, 10:52 pm, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a Quicksilver 1GHz DP running 10.4.11, with a SCSI card
 (Adaptec 2930) in it to run a big old SCSI Minolta film scanner
 (Dimage Scan Multi II). The scanner came with its proprietary Minolta
 software (Dimage Scan Utility), which works very well, but it only
 works in in 10.3.9.

 So, to use the scanner, I have to reboot back into 10.3.9 (which is on
 an external hard drive), do the scans in 10.3, and then reboot into
 10.4 again to use them. This is OK, but slow and kind of a nuisance. I
 sure wish I could scan film in 10.4.11.

 There are no updates on the Minolta website beyond what I have, which
 is 2004 software.

 Anybody got any idea why this software will work in 10.3, but not in
 10.4, and how I might get it to work in 10.4?

 Thanks for any help!

 Tom
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Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?

2008-10-15 Thread Brian Christmas


On 15/10/2008, at 1:52 PM, Tom wrote:


 I have a Quicksilver 1GHz DP running 10.4.11, with a SCSI card
 (Adaptec 2930) in it to run a big old SCSI Minolta film scanner
 (Dimage Scan Multi II). The scanner came with its proprietary Minolta
 software (Dimage Scan Utility), which works very well, but it only
 works in in 10.3.9.

 So, to use the scanner, I have to reboot back into 10.3.9 (which is on
 an external hard drive), do the scans in 10.3, and then reboot into
 10.4 again to use them. This is OK, but slow and kind of a nuisance. I
 sure wish I could scan film in 10.4.11.

 There are no updates on the Minolta website beyond what I have, which
 is 2004 software.

 Anybody got any idea why this software will work in 10.3, but not in
 10.4, and how I might get it to work in 10.4?

 Thanks for any help!

 Tom


G'day Tom

Try Vuescan  http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html

Regards

Santa

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Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?

2008-10-15 Thread John Callahan


On Oct 14, 2008, at 10:52 PM, Tom wrote:


 I have a Quicksilver 1GHz DP running 10.4.11, with a SCSI card
 (Adaptec 2930) in it to run a big old SCSI Minolta film scanner
 (Dimage Scan Multi II). The scanner came with its proprietary Minolta
 software (Dimage Scan Utility), which works very well, but it only
 works in in 10.3.9.

 So, to use the scanner, I have to reboot back into 10.3.9 (which is on
 an external hard drive), do the scans in 10.3, and then reboot into
 10.4 again to use them. This is OK, but slow and kind of a nuisance. I
 sure wish I could scan film in 10.4.11.

 There are no updates on the Minolta website beyond what I have, which
 is 2004 software.

 Anybody got any idea why this software will work in 10.3, but not in
 10.4, and how I might get it to work in 10.4?

 Thanks for any help!

 Tom
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I have DIMAGE SCAN DUAL III, Mac Version 1.0.0 that works well on my  
QuickSilver (2002) w/ OS 10.4.11. My scanner is USB ported which may  
account for the difference. As I'm sure, you no doubt already know,  
Minolta sold out to Sony and you can go to the Sony site for info,  
although very little of it. Not much help I guess.
John Callahan
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went.¨
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Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?

2008-10-15 Thread Tom

I'll check out the SCSI card driver update Kris, thanks. Don't know if
that will fix the software, though. Got my fingers crossed. I'll
report back when I try it, in a day or so. Too busy to fool with it
just at the moment.

Thanks Brian, I did buy VueScan, and it will run the scanner, all
right, but very slowly, and with a clunky interface. The scanner works
so slowly under VueScan that I sometimes think it didn't get a
command, it just sits there idle for so long, and I'm about to give up
when it finally starts to do something. And VueScan only has a
fraction of the controls that the original Minolta software does, for
correction of color, gamma, contrast, etc. It's loaded with all sorts
of adjustment windows, sliders, and graphs. Best of all, the software
runs the scanner really fast compared to VueScan. It responds to
commands instantly. I'd sure like to get that Minolta software working
in 10.4.

John, I'm glad to see others still using these fine Dimage scanners.
Do you have any idea where to get replacement lamps for them? They
surely can't last forever, and if the lamps can't be bought anymore,
there goes the scanner, to the junk pile. I've been worried about
that. Minolta has bit the dust, and  is out of the camera and scanner
business. There is no more support. But surely there are enough of
these Minoltas still in use for some manufacturer to stock bulbs for
them, wouldn't you think? If you know of any source, please let me
know.

Thanks to all for the help!

Tom
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Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?

2008-10-15 Thread John Callahan


 John, I'm glad to see others still using these fine Dimage scanners.
 Do you have any idea where to get replacement lamps for them? They
 surely can't last forever, and if the lamps can't be bought anymore,
 there goes the scanner, to the junk pile. I've been worried about
 that. Minolta has bit the dust, and  is out of the camera and scanner
 business. There is no more support. But surely there are enough of
 these Minoltas still in use for some manufacturer to stock bulbs for
 them, wouldn't you think? If you know of any source, please let me
 know.

 Thanks to all for the help!

 Tom
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Tom, no idea concerning replacement lamps unless you could identify  
the original lamp manufacturer. I've scanned over six thousand slides  
with mine and still have another three thousand to go. Works  
flawlessly. If you are interested I would be happy to let you use  
mine when I'm done with my slides. My first SLR was a Minolta and I  
was surprised and saddened when they went out of business. I've  
noticed a number of Minolta scanners on e-bay and at reasonable  
prices. I got mine on the LEM swap list and have been very pleased  
with it. Good luck.
John Callahan
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Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?

2008-10-15 Thread Brian Christmas


On 15/10/2008, at 1:52 PM, Tom wrote:


 I have a Quicksilver 1GHz DP running 10.4.11, with a SCSI card
 (Adaptec 2930) in it to run a big old SCSI Minolta film scanner
 (Dimage Scan Multi II). The scanner came with its proprietary Minolta
 software (Dimage Scan Utility), which works very well, but it only
 works in in 10.3.9.

 So, to use the scanner, I have to reboot back into 10.3.9 (which is on
 an external hard drive), do the scans in 10.3, and then reboot into
 10.4 again to use them. This is OK, but slow and kind of a nuisance. I
 sure wish I could scan film in 10.4.11.

 There are no updates on the Minolta website beyond what I have, which
 is 2004 software.

 Anybody got any idea why this software will work in 10.3, but not in
 10.4, and how I might get it to work in 10.4?

 Thanks for any help!

 Tom

G'day Tom

Try  Vuescan   http://www.hamrick.com/

Apologies if this appears as a second post, but my first attempt did  
not come through to me.

Regards

Santa

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Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?

2008-10-14 Thread Tom

I have a Quicksilver 1GHz DP running 10.4.11, with a SCSI card
(Adaptec 2930) in it to run a big old SCSI Minolta film scanner
(Dimage Scan Multi II). The scanner came with its proprietary Minolta
software (Dimage Scan Utility), which works very well, but it only
works in in 10.3.9.

So, to use the scanner, I have to reboot back into 10.3.9 (which is on
an external hard drive), do the scans in 10.3, and then reboot into
10.4 again to use them. This is OK, but slow and kind of a nuisance. I
sure wish I could scan film in 10.4.11.

There are no updates on the Minolta website beyond what I have, which
is 2004 software.

Anybody got any idea why this software will work in 10.3, but not in
10.4, and how I might get it to work in 10.4?

Thanks for any help!

Tom
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Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?

2008-10-14 Thread Kris Tilford

On Oct 14, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Tom wrote:

 Anybody got any idea why this software will work in 10.3, but not in
 10.4, and how I might get it to work in 10.4?

It appears it may be a SCSI card problem with a fairly easy solution:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7011680

Hope this works.

Good luck!

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