Hi Phillip,
1 No.
2 No.
3 HTML with proper headings and sub headings is my favorite and plain text is
my second favorite.
4 No preference, seems like offering the codes at a price is a good way to earn
just a little extra money for the game and is totally valid in my opinion.
I use markdown
Hello Philip. Here are my ansers to your questions
1. I would personally love to see a cd of the game after ordering it as well
as download it. This could come in handy if your internet brakes down and it
takes a few days to get it fixed. 2. The size of the download doesn't matter
to me. 3. I
Hi Nicole.
Just to add to what Thomas has written hear, there are plenty of free games
out there which are accessible and highly enjoyable, Jim Kitchen's games for
instance. There are also lots of websites where you can play text based
fantasy game books, muds and traditional text adventure
Well, you didn't think this little project would always just be walking around
did you? That would be boring.
So the project needs a whole new name to reflect what it is becoming.
Download the latest alpha version here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/96692612/SoundscapeExplorer.zip
You
Hello.
I just downloaded Dice world for my iPhone, and was playing around with
the practice mode.
However I had one question concerning the practice mode.
Can you play against the computer?
Or do you just play against yourself?
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If you want
I can't stand Vista or Windows 7, but staying with 98? Wow! I ditched that
as soon as XP came out. XP was stable, fully accessible, so why not? But
staying with 98? Why not just go all-out retro and reinstall 3.1? Better
yet, MS DOS has a lot going for it, right? With its 640K of memory you're
It's just like I told you when you wanted Phrase Madness for free just
because you have a disability. You said, Your games should be free for the
disabled. Duh! I said, I am disabled also. Most of the devs on this list
are blind, and many don't have jobs except for selling their games. Nine
Hello all
I went onto the Gma Games website yesterday and they have some cool free
games as well. You guys remember Trek 2000 for example? Well that was a
commercial product, but it has now gone free since they won't be
updating it. Also all of Dan Z's games are free.
Just some options.
win7 aint that bad I have a win7 unit here.
true it takes a bit of getting used to, xp is the better os interface
wise, however 7 is better than 8.
In fact I have it in 32 bit mode with the vb6 libs loaded and have no
issue at all.
At 06:48 PM 4/30/2013, you wrote:
I can't stand Vista or
FF20 can finally play MP3's, because mozilla finally lets you use the
windows media codecs for html5 audio and video. The thing is it's turned
off by default and you need to turn it on in about:config, which is not
somewhere any, especially not advanced computer users, will look (the
only way
Hi,
wow, I really have to keep trying with those highscores! But I'll do that.
My highest score in classic so far was $51 and change. I played the other
modes just once, so my highscore wasn't anything to speak of. Lol.
Best regards
Sarah
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Hi Desiree,
Yes, and the thing that is most memorable about that specific case in
point is Liam was very mature about the whole thing and calmly
explained his point of view without being nasty or verbally cutting
the wannabe pirate to ribbons. I respect that in a developer. Far too
many people in
Hello Philip
It's good to hear that your almost done. But 1st I have a question for
you. What is your game about?
I don't need to know what the game is about to anser your questions. so to
anser your questions.
1stI think that being abel to order it on cd will be a good option. I know
Plese itnore the question about what the game was about. I missed the last
part of your email, But my ansers stay the same.
Bfn
James
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Hi Joseph,
You could go to my games list,
http://www.pcsgames.net/game-co.htm
Use your search feature to look for, dan or zing.
it would be the third dan
or the second zing to get to,
Daniel Zingaro's Games.
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To: Gamers
Hi,
I'm using Firefox 20. I turned on HTML 5 in about:config, but it still won't
work on the draconis site. Is there anything else I have to change here? I'm
just asking because there are over 2000 entries in there, I don't want to
read them all first. Lol.
Thanks and best regards
Sarah
chris i dont know where there is any way to send them any emails ,i am
getting to the point i will just delete the copy that i have and count it as
loss.
your friend lee
In a message dated 4/28/2013 5:48:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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Lee please
You play against yourself.
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From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 02:44
Subject: [Audyssey] Dice world question.
Hello.
I just downloaded Dice world for my iPhone, and was playing around with
the practice
There have been lots of messages from certain developers commenting that people
with windows do not have the latest versions, that they can't support this that
and the other, that such and such a component is old, etc etc.
?
Okay, I offer this as a direct challenge to developers.
There are
Hello all
thanks to L-Works, I have probably all of their games, both demo and free.
I really like their free offering called Slide! I am in to puzzles you
see. Slide is based on a slide puzzle. You can either have a 3 by 3
grid, a 4 by 4 grid, and a word grid. The object is to re-arrange the
Hi Tom,
Sadly, I am serious.
But your point about 98 being 15-years-old speaks to the broader point I was
making as well. XP is 12-years-old now. Folks will either start migrating on
their own terms, or find themselves in a position, sooner or later, when they
are forced to migrate
Not only that but my Windows 7 here loves the games I have so far. I
have heard however Descent into Madness will not run on Windows 7 but
haven't tried it myself.
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click submit a ticket.
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On 28/04/2013
You must run!
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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Mich
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:15 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the nightjar help with getting eatin in
thedranesonlevil 8.
I have tryed that. I keep getting
Well were you live you might be able to get another xp box, but here
in the states those are memories. The shops and stores sense win7
came out now support that op and won't even think of selling xp. Its
just like computers you may have a good running box. However,
progress makes that box out
Hi Dark,
My responses are throughout.
*snip*
1: compatibility with dos applications.
As a huge fan of text rpgs, I play not a few games with dos such as fallthru,
and age of legends, yet thanks to microsoft that would not be possible on a
64 bit machine. For sighted users this isn't a
Hi Dark and all. on the topic of upgrading to windows 7 from xp I agree with
you in all that you have said hear. I use xp for my maine pc use and have a
laptop running windows 7 for a backup but I hardley ever use that unless say
I am traviling. I agree with all your points that xp is mutch
Hi trouble.
As I said, I am not aversed to upgrading when it is of bennifit to me, and
indeed this is I think the reason most people do not do so. If something
ain't broke, why fix it.
i also question your progress forward analogy for this reason, since
something with a less friendly
Hi Dark,
Like so many things in life there are two sides to every argument, and
I certainly can't dispute that the issues you raised are valid, but
there is another side to the debate as well.
It is true that on 64-bit versions of Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8
it is not possible to play older
Hi Dark,
After reading your message, I'd like to know how much actual
experience you have with windows seven. The only part of your
message I can't completely contradict is the part about dos
applications, and even those should run under a 32-bit version of
the OS, if you really want them
Hi,
Not only that, but the problem for people wanting to maintain XP after
2014 is hardware support. After next year most hardware manufacturers
will no longer be providing drivers for sound cards, video cards,
network cards, etc for XP. So if someone needs to replace a hardware
component for any
Hi Tom and Trouble,
All the more reason to have a dedicated, essentially frozen, machine for
playing old games, etc. The less wear-and-tear you can put on it, using it just
for the specific tasks it needs to be, the longer it is likely to last. Keeping
it off the Internet most of the time
Hi, also, I'm not too sure where the idea that Microsoft has not been helping
accessibility in more modern versions of windows.
In fact, Windows 7, and more especially windows 8, are far more accessible than
XP ever was. And their knew protocols, and APIs, that provide better
accessibility now,
Hello there
Yes and now they are pushing windows 8 how sickening, but if U have a
old computer that runs xp there is always the code in the back of the
computer that you can download xp and put that code in. aslong as you are
not running 2 computers with the same code your good. I just got
Hi, on top of all this, there is one simple thing to look at. Look at the main
gaming industry. There are a lot of games out there that do not support
anything less than Windows 7. So we aren't the first to see this happen. In
fact, the audio games industry is being held back by the fact that
Hi Josh and all,
Snip
The vast, vast, vast majority of Windows users never upgrade their
existing machine. They go buy a cheap new computer which happens to
have the latest OS on it. When this occurs, rather than going through
channels to keep using obsolete software, hang on to the old machine
hello all i just downloaded and unzipped the program. when i run it jaws says
form1 dialog and no other stuff is heard and other sounds play. no voice speaks
how do you do it?
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Hi.
one of my intrinsic problems with this upgrade business is to do with
practical good and also practicality of how many computers one can actually
own.
i do not actually have the space for more than one desktop, plus laptops
have a shorter life generally. Virtual xp is always a solution
Hi Chris
I also like to solve slide puzzles. Did you know that there is a slide puzzle
for IOS??? Sluzzuls by Mochi Development can found in the app store. The game
is FREE and fully accessible with voiceover.
Donna
Hello all
thanks to L-Works, I have probably all of their games, both demo
Hi Dallas,
Correct. One of the things Windows 8 brings to the table regarding
accessibility is Microsoft Narrator is vastly improved over prior
versions.Wile I wouldn't take it over something like NVDA it is far
better than anything else Microsoft has provided before. Better screen
review
Do anybody know what games work under Windows 8, particularly any of the
classic ones? Not interested in things like Rs Games and the Playroom at
the moment.
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Unfortunately the game is not free here in the Uk app store. I got it
anyway as per the comment it's accessible. It's £1.49 in the Uk app
store. Cheers! And lol! What a daft title for a game!
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Hi Tom and all,
I agree entirely, which is why, in my previous note, I specified that the mess
isn't just for screen reader users. Windows 8 is widely getting slammed by
users because it is a mess, but that has nothing to do with the accessibility.
Microsoft is improving with access, even if
Here you go.
http://help.dracoent.com/index.php?a=add
HTH
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On Apr 28, 2013, at 2:53 AM, blindle...@aol.com wrote:
chris i dont know where there is any way to
Good afternoon all.
Just bought this gameSluzzuls in the Uk app store.
Now are you sure it's the right one? Asking as all I see on the screen
is a, a, a, b, b, b, c, c, c, etc etc.
Doesn't seem as obvious as L-Works' Slide game.
Any responses will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Chris.
--
As for having to upgrade to a newer OS because the older ones aren't being
supported, shouldn't the game developers use the tools of the trade that
their customers can use? If you decide to create software that the newer
systems can run but older systems cannot, and your customers are still
What if you're not sure of the name of what you're looking for? Is there a
way to hunt for something you would recognize when you find it?
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From: john jpcarnemo...@comcast.net
To:
Isn't this exactly why older hardware should be supported? People still use
them. Supply what the people want rather than the other way around. If l7
out of 10 of my customers use older machines, I would produce stuff they can
use. To me, saying that we are moving on and it is up to you as
Hi Tom.
My statement was primarily regarding windows 7. I've had no experiences with
8 so haven't drawn a judgement, indeed I was tempted to skip windows 7
entirely since what I've tried of the os I completely disliked. however, it
is the layout and lack of abilities to customize that
Hi Charles.e
i wouldnt' go that far, I do think it's a two sided problem ccombined with
lack of support for older systems and microsoft's bad approach to ui's in
post xp windows (or at least in 7), however I do get a little tired of
developers constantly saying well microsoft is doing this
If it ain't broke, why fix it until it is broken?
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 8:35 AM
Subject:
Hi charlse.
i do agree, particularly since a lot of the changes in windows 7 are
cosmetic at best (heck, nobody blind or sighted likes the ui either but
microsoft are forcing people to use it since you can't buy a new computer
without).
The same goes for other programs and products too, for
Hi Dark,
Snip
Virtual XP is always a solution next to a main os, but how well that
runs I'm not sure over all.
End Snip
Well, unfortunately that all depends on how much CPU power and memory
you have to spare for a secondary OS. Generally running XP in a
virtual machine will runn a bit slower
Why shouldn't it be the other way around? Support what is used by the users
rather than use what isn't supported and then try to support what is used?
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Hi Dark,
Responses throughout again.
*snip*
one of my intrinsic problems with this upgrade business is to do with
practical good and also practicality of how many computers one can actually
own.
i do not actually have the space for more than one desktop, plus laptops have
a shorter
Hi Tom.
I completely agree that in 10, 20 years down the line etc things will
change, however that is not the current decision. When I considder do I
change from xp to a newer os, I way up the costs and bennifits. It is
entirely possible that windows 8 (with a touch screen), windows 9, mac os
Hi Charles,
When it comes to hardware manufacturers they are looking at it from
the perspective of PC builders and manufacturers like Del, HP,
Gateway, etc. Those companies are building new PCs with Windows 7 and
Windows 8 on them so that is where the market is for hardware
manufacturers. Trying
Hi josh.
I never said I would not! upgrade, only that I had looked at the pros and
cons and decided against it. Remember, my comments about the interface in
windows 7 do not just reflect the main start menue and windows explorer, but
also programs like outlook express, microsoft office etc,
Charles,
The biggest reason for this is the future. Look what has happened to BSC games.
XP has far more years behind than ahead. We can't afford to make games that
might, at best, have only 2 or 3 years of a life span.
And, at present, we are in a weird transition time. We have roughly equal
Which is also why there needs to be better reasons to stop using xp than
currently, aprticularly given the buggered interface and lack of
customization. Frankly microsoft need shooting over that one saying well
you get what we give and like it rather than giving people choices about
what they
Well, as Tom said, and I eluded to, there isn't really much to add. The process
for installing a VM, at least on Mac, is extremely simple for anyone. It
literally consists of these steps:
1. Install the VMWare Fusion app, which is 100% accessible.
2. Insert a Windows XP install disc and click
The rub is that, unlike the majority of sighted, and employed, computer
users, the visually impaired, for the most part, are unemployed, and don't
have the money to go out and buy a new machine that is up to today's
standards.
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Fair enough, well that is likely a reason for me to possibly considder a mac
in the future, though I'll have to try windows 8 first.
Beware the grue!
dark.
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Sent: Tuesday, April 30,
There is also one simply called Puzzle. Offhand, I don't know the
developer. You can choose between a 4 by 4 or a 5 by 5 grid.
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Sounds like it uses letters instead of numbers. I would think that you
would have to group all Bs together, followed by all the Cs and so on. Not
having the game on my iPhone, this is merely speculation on my part.
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As a blind person, I still very much prefer pulldown menus rather than
ribbons, and I use Outlook Express because it is user friendly and for a
visually impaired person, it! works! Why be forced to switch from what
works well to what doesn't only because it is newer?
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If guns kill people,
Especially in view of the fact that, as has been pointed out before, the
vast majority of blind folks are unemployed, some by choice I'm sure but
most not, and therefore can't afford to go out and buy new machines,
even if they would actually like to upgrade.
But thou must!
On 4/30/2013
Since on a Mac you can have a native install of XP or any other version of
Windows you like since, I fail to understand this argument. By having a Mac
with a *native* install of XP, or Win7, or whatever you want, you have the
best of both worlds in a machine that you will probably be able to
Hi charlse.
I agree regarding classic shell, plus classic shell does not solve the other
issues with newer windows components such as control panel, e-mail etc, this
is why if I am forced to upgrade I'd considder the mac with virtual xp over
windows 7. Whether this is true of 8 I don't know,
Hi Dark,
Upon reading this and other messages you have written I think the
fundimental problem is that you have no experience developing
software, or working for a company where you have to develop,
maintain, and support software for a long period of time so your
comments completely overlook
Is this how it works?
Microsoft sells the new OS. That OS doesn't support older hardware and
software, so hardware and software developers make new products to run on
the new OS. The computer manufacturers make the new computers that handle
all of this other new stuff. Now, the consumer
The search box is really intuitive; but if it doesn't find what
you want you can always just use the menu system.
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From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:53:52 -0500
Subject: Re:
Hi Charles,
That's true. One that I will strongly consider as a software
developer. However, as I also pointed out there may come a day where
it is no longer possible to support XP and Windows 8 at the same time
without developing and maintaining multiple versions of the same game.
That takes
Hi Tom.
One question. If this is the case, how come on my windows xp machine, bought
in 2008, I can run somftware written for dos in 1979? I'm afraid your
arguement that all systems do this just doesn't make that sort of sense.
Equally, if it is a case of simply keeping these old dependencies
If Outlook Express and versions of Microsoft Word that use pulldown menus
that are accessible to all work fine, why scrap them and incorporate new
programs that are less accessible? Or am I still missing something from the
point of view of an end user?
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Hi charlse.
This is pretty much true, however this is also the world we live in and
frankly big coorporations will do this because they can. However, the
problem comes when consumers and indi developers get stuck in the middle,
which was my point with this topic in the first place, suggesting
Hi Dark,
it sounds as if you are in essence holding developers in this community somehow
responsible for what is essentially the computing world in general, moving
forward as it normally does.
By saying that audio game developers are saying to the community, 'tough luck'
is maybe not the most
Hi Chris,
I have never played the slide puzzle from L-Works. So I'm not familiar with
the layout of the slide puzzle, meaning I don't know if an actual picture,
numbers or letters are used.
With Sluzzuls the letters that voiceover reads back to you are supposed to
be grouped together,
Hi Charlse.
Unfortunately from the perspective of microsoft it is about what sells, and
if you can wrap something up in a shiny box and tell people it is new and
better you can sell more of it, irrispective of whether it actually is or
not, and equally irrispective of whether your poor blind
Doesn't this game have a timer though?
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From: Donna
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 1:59 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sluzzuls
Hi Chris,
I have never played the slide puzzle from L-Works. So I'm not familiar with
the layout of the slide
Hi Kara.
I do not blaime developers for the computing situation, (that is clearly
microsoft's fault), but at the same time there is honestly some tention
hear, and I've detected it from comments from Tom and Josh precisely about!
supporting older systems and about people still using out of
Hi Charles,
that's close enough. However, I don't believe anyone said it was right
or particularly. fair. That's just the way business generally works.
For example, when I took a marketing class in college we studied a
marketing technique called perceived obsolescence. The way it works is
you
Yes, kind of like a stopwatch. In other words it counts up.
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On 30/04/2013 19:04, MamaPeach wrote:
Doesn't this
Which is again why i'm so suspicious about updating and why the
cost/bennifits of updating are something I considder so carefully.
Beware the Grue!
DArk.
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Sent: Tuesday,
Good evening all.
By the way a very interesting discussion on the post Windows Xp era.
I thought I would start a new thread letting you know I used to play on
the Snes.
My favourite game was Streetfighter, both the standard version ii and
Streetfighter Turbo. I never owned a Snes myself but
hi,
you forgot about the ability of windows 8 to perform all maintenence
tasks together directed by one process
so unlike win7 windows 8 will download and install updates, clean log
files, defrag the hdd etconly when your pc is idle
also the refresh and reset feature is another reason to
Hi Charles,
*snip*
Response: This does make sense if or when the money can be found. A Mac
costs more, but the costs associated with Freedom Scientific's SMA are
eliminated.
*snip*
That, but the idea that Macs cost more is not true. If you get a PC with the
same specs and quality of a
For the record I'd like to try Windows 8. I just can't afford to at the
moment, which is why I fervently hope my three-year-old Toshiba laptop
doesn't decide to die on me anytime soon. There have been no indications
that it will but I've observed that you never can tell with computers. LOL
Charles, it's not that simple.
As developers, we also need to use software to build apps. This software also
evolves and changes along with the general market. The tools available change
and the ease of use and implementation of those tools on the end-user's
machines change.
Even my work on
By the way, is this the only game for bowling?
Regards,
DARK LORD
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Sent: Tuesday, 30 April 2013 11:42 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering Ten Pin Alley, can
Hi Dark,
I asked this before and I'll ask it again. How much are you willing to
spend on Dosbox emulation?
The thing is while I am sure there are a few developers like myself
who have the technical skills to rewrite Dosbox from scratch in order
to make it accessible it would take considerable
I think so yes. I asked on other lists about bowlling games for the
iPhone, and no one had a clue. So I assume yes this is the only bowling
game.
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iPhones are also extremely accessible. I use one on a daily basis. Other
visually impaired people, however, cannot.
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Hi Dark,
Developers aren't saying woohoo, let's force everyone to upgrade because the
new stuff is just sooo much cooler. :)
We spend a fair bit of time trying to figure out ways to make as many customers
happy as possible, while ourselves, working in a changing environment. I think
here, is
Hi Tom and all,
Just adding to what Tom is saying here. This is a little long, so I hope you
will all stick with me.
This is also why I am a proponent of Apple's model. Apple iterates existing
products along a trajectory that eliminates the perceived obsolescence
technique. They only update
Hi Tom.
Given game availability, I'd be willing to pay a good 30 usd for a dosbox
emulator, heck, I'd pay that just for eamon deluxe, though I agree with the
rest of your projects it wouldn't be such a good thing.
The reason I say windows 7 accessibility is worse is due to the several
hours
Hi Kara.
that does make sense as regards devs being customers, but in that case
perhaps as I said that is why this sort of dialogue helps, since developers
have different reasons for prefering newer os and some players different
reasons for preffering older, and short of kidnapping bill gates
Hi Josh.
That's reasonable enough, and I do agree apple's developement model has
advantages, --- even though i have not owned my iphone long enough to
experience those, and even though there are still other aspects of apple's
practice I am less a fan of (but that's a debate for another time).
Hi Charles,
Well, to begin with Windows Live Mail and Microsoft Office 2010 are
still quite accessible. Yes, the user interface is quite a bit
different on Windows 7, but different does not mean inaccessible. Once
you learn how to use the ribbons they are just accessible as the pull
down menus.
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