Re: [Audyssey] skypecasts

2006-05-05 Thread Neo
Not to mention all the reported security holes that Skype 2.x fixes. 
Although I really don't like the new commercial like design it slowly begins 
to take - the new sounds and graphical crap altogether. :-)
Best wishes,
Lukas
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 That's actually not true.  While not perfect, Skype 2.X is useable
 with Window-Eyes 5.5, which I'm using here.  I have JFW 6.X but have
 not tried it with Skype.  I would assume it'd work OK, but haven't tried.

 At 04:03 PM 5/4/2006, you wrote:

skype 2x and higher is not accessible with anything except jfw and
that with script files.
I still use version 1.484 and its fine.
Unless you want vid c conferencing then there is no point upgrading.
At 08:01 AM 5/5/2006, you wrote:
 I've often heard of Skype, but long ago I tried to download it, and, I 
 don't
 know if it was the version of JFW I was using, but it was somewhat
 inaccessible. I have never really used it. How accessible is skype, now 
 with
 JFW 6.0? Also, if we do go on to Skypecast, could someone write a 
 message or
 a document, which would explain how to get up and running? Of course, 
 the
 chats could then also be recorded if wanted and put together as a 
 podcast.
 Ari
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   Why not. It would be more efficient, I think. It would be more 
   natural. I
   found that it was kind of weird having that little thing where
 you pressed
   the control key to talk.
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   Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 12:57 PM
   Subject: [Audyssey] skypecasts
  
  
I'm wondering if we an use this as a means of the Thursday and 
Saturday
chats. This way one just needs a skype account, no need to go
 with f-t-p
and their policies.
   
   
ari said the following on Thu, May 04, 2006 at 05:44:09PM +0200:
   
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Re: [Audyssey] Jedi Strike was u s a game titles

2006-05-05 Thread Chris Frahm
If the Ewoks make it in, they could do ninja moves?  Why make them cute or 
cuddly when they could kick some dark side butt?
I don't know...if they are defending Endor or have an alliance with the Gedi 
forces.I can see that.  They don't have to be awww isn't that cute? 
Plus on Endor wasn't there that machine that rode through the trees?  I wish 
I could ride on one of those floating thingys.  (Yes I'm not devout on Star 
Wars but am learning only saw 2 of them twice on the trilogy).
I don't want Gungons though for some reason they irritate mebut they are 
colorful. You could be taken captive by a Jaba the Hut creature and excape 
his fortress.
Hack your way out of a pit full of snakesI dunno.
Or go in to rescue someone.
*shrugs* I don't know what Im talking about so I'll just shut up.  *grins*
Peace all!
Chris


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[Audyssey] I was informed (star wars)

2006-05-05 Thread Chris Frahm
My friend Adam, who prides himself in being a massive star wars officionado, 
though he claims to like trek and I don't know if he's teasing me or not but he 
won't believe that Worf was in most of the seasons for DS9 (man that sentence 
was autrocious...a run on if I ever heard of one! sorry!)
At any rate, he says there's never been a wookie jedi so why make one?  I said 
somone will write it in the books eventually...or you could break new frontier 
and have The **FIRST** ever wookie gedi therefore pioneering into the universe 
of Lucus and enriching it.  He says I have to ask George before any of that.  
*laughs*
At any rate, I am at least writing his opinion downhe's sighted and doesn't 
have the internet and wouldn't play so this doens't really bring to bear but I 
wanted to know if you agree or nott.
*chuckles*
Chris
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Re: [Audyssey] skypecasts

2006-05-05 Thread shaun everiss
I don't like the comercial interfaces either.
The sounds are good but you can't make your own schemes.
I have thousands of sounds better than the stuff skype has.
I would also like a sound for when someone picks up a call or you 
answer a call.
Think of what a sttng scheme would be like.

At 06:35 PM 5/5/2006, you wrote:
Not to mention all the reported security holes that Skype 2.x fixes.
Although I really don't like the new commercial like design it slowly begins
to take - the new sounds and graphical crap altogether. :-)
Best wishes,
Lukas
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] skypecasts


  That's actually not true.  While not perfect, Skype 2.X is useable
  with Window-Eyes 5.5, which I'm using here.  I have JFW 6.X but have
  not tried it with Skype.  I would assume it'd work OK, but haven't tried.
 
  At 04:03 PM 5/4/2006, you wrote:
 
 skype 2x and higher is not accessible with anything except jfw and
 that with script files.
 I still use version 1.484 and its fine.
 Unless you want vid c conferencing then there is no point upgrading.
 At 08:01 AM 5/5/2006, you wrote:
  I've often heard of Skype, but long ago I tried to download it, and, I
  don't
  know if it was the version of JFW I was using, but it was somewhat
  inaccessible. I have never really used it. How accessible is skype, now
  with
  JFW 6.0? Also, if we do go on to Skypecast, could someone write a
  message or
  a document, which would explain how to get up and running? Of course,
  the
  chats could then also be recorded if wanted and put together as a
  podcast.
  Ari
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  Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 8:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] skypecasts
  
  
Why not. It would be more efficient, I think. It would be more
natural. I
found that it was kind of weird having that little thing where
  you pressed
the control key to talk.
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To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 12:57 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] skypecasts
   
   
 I'm wondering if we an use this as a means of the Thursday and
 Saturday
 chats. This way one just needs a skype account, no need to go
  with f-t-p
 and their policies.


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Re: [Audyssey] skypecasts

2006-05-05 Thread Wil James
Not only that, but everybody has different levels at which they use their
screen readers.

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-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 10:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] skypecasts

A program is either accessible or it isn't.  Scripts may make a program
easier to use, but they do not make it accessible.  If scripts can be made
to use a program, then you can use the program without the scripts.

It has been my experience not to take everything blind people say as gospel.
Many of them don't like to learn to use a program.  If it doesn't work the
way they think it should, they declare it inaccessible.  I always try
everything, regardless of what i read on lists, as the information is not
always entirely accurate. *smile*

At 05:57 PM 5/4/2006, you wrote:

I have jaws and hal and with hal skype doesn't work, at least 2.0.81 does
not.
Also jaws jfwlite says you need scripts.
At 12:23 PM 5/5/2006, you wrote:
 This is interesting seeing is how I'm a total Window-Eyes user and 
 use Skype 2.x all the time. Where did you base this information from?
 
 
 shaun everiss said the following on Fri, May 05, 2006 at 11:03:35AM
+1200:
   skype 2x and higher is not accessible with anything except jfw and 
   that with script files.
 
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Re: [Audyssey] skypecasts

2006-05-05 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Friendly moderator's nudge here. When I replied to the original forward 
I was hoping it would spark discussions on whether using skypecast for 
our game conferences is an option. I'm not really interested much in how 
accessible the program is or not since we all have different 
hardware/software and different computer skills. So, let's either just 
talk about whether we want to move in that direction for the game chat 
which I've heard hardly anything on, or let's close the topic.

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[Audyssey] Skypecast and Top Speed

2006-05-05 Thread Wil James
In 7 hours and 28 minutes from now, there will be a Skypecast with Top
Speed.  No, I am not putting this on.  I ran across this wile browsing the
Skypecast listings.
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Jedi Strike was u s a game titles

2006-05-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi.
Um... No. This is a first person perspective game? That is from the 
players perspective. Not a movie.
As I had mentioned before it is largely going to draw upon past Lucas 
Arts games to construct the new game with it's own adventures and twists.
Please, let's get off the cute and cuddly kick. Smile.
This is going to be a high energy action game with allot of saber 
fighting, whiping out enemy troops, sneeking around, breaking in to 
rooms, you name it.


Chris Frahm wrote:
 If the Ewoks make it in, they could do ninja moves?  Why make them cute or 
 cuddly when they could kick some dark side butt?
 I don't know...if they are defending Endor or have an alliance with the Gedi 
 forces.I can see that.  They don't have to be awww isn't that cute? 
 Plus on Endor wasn't there that machine that rode through the trees?  I wish 
 I could ride on one of those floating thingys.  (Yes I'm not devout on Star 
 Wars but am learning only saw 2 of them twice on the trilogy).
 I don't want Gungons though for some reason they irritate mebut they are 
 colorful. You could be taken captive by a Jaba the Hut creature and excape 
 his fortress.
 Hack your way out of a pit full of snakesI dunno.
 Or go in to rescue someone.
 *shrugs* I don't know what Im talking about so I'll just shut up.  *grins*
 Peace all!
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Re: [Audyssey] game hyubrids

2006-05-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi.
This has been discussed many times before, but the main reason there 
aren't many audio games with graphics is there is no one sighted around 
to do the graphics, and we can not  pay to have someone do them.
Even if we did get the graphics there is a massive problem with testing 
to make sure the graphics engine works correctly. We can't see it so 
debugging the graphics engine would largely have to be done during testing.


Chris Frahm wrote:
 'Sup?
 Game hybrids.h...I really like allinplay and what they do 'cause my 
 sighted g/f and I can play together and talk while playing.  Why aren't there 
 more games out there like that?  I have always wanted to see in hybrid form 
 that would be popular:
 bingo (they have this online thing at pogo but it's not blind friendly but I 
 like the caller and that it has sound..if it were only accessable...*sighs*
 dominos
 I know tons of people of all ages who play and to have an online version 
 where sighted and blind people could play together...I'd definately sign up.
 Checkers
 a 1 on 1 would be awesome!
 maybe some dd or rpg or even shooter games that have graphics so a sighted 
 person could play but a blind person could get just as much out of...like 
 montezoma's revenge.  We could help eachother out then.
 Lastly, some pet game or whatever (I know it's weird and a lot of people 
 would find it juvinile but I don't have a pet of any kind and have always 
 wanted to take care of something...even virtually...they don't have anything 
 that's fully functional by blind users).
 Guess that's all I'm thinkin' of.
 Take care and get back!
 Chris
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Re: [Audyssey] I was informed (star wars)

2006-05-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Yeah. Sometime I'll have to order  that entire series from my State 
library again. It has been a while, and some things are beginning to get 
fuzzy like what happens in which books, etc.


david wrote:
 That's right. He does. He does not get killed in star by star, and i was 
 refferring to when he was first introduced.
   


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Re: [Audyssey] Jedi Strike was u s a game titles

2006-05-05 Thread Christopher Bartlett
One very important part of the Starwars universe is the concept that 
the Jedi does the minimum violence necessary to achieve a greater 
good.  Your game could include a system for tracking excessive 
violence and at a certain point, the character has turned to the dark 
side and is susceptible to manipulations by the lord(s) of the Sith.

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Re: [Audyssey] I was informed (star wars)

2006-05-05 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
I suppose that technically Worf was in most of DS9. He was in seasons 
4-7 which by definition means just over half.

Now, we should get back to gaming. This includes me. I'm gently slapping 
my hands here.

Chris Frahm said the following on Fri, May 05, 2006 at 01:57:36AM -0500:
 My friend Adam, who prides himself in being a massive star wars
 officionado, though he claims to like trek and I don't know if he's
 teasing me or not but he won't believe that Worf was in most of the
 seasons for DS9 (man that sentence was autrocious...a run on if I ever
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Re: [Audyssey] Skypecast and Top Speed

2006-05-05 Thread Yohandy
Rofl! that was actually my idea, so I created one. Gotta love skypecast!

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In 7 hours and 28 minutes from now, there will be a Skypecast with Top
 Speed.  No, I am not putting this on.  I ran across this wile browsing the
 Skypecast listings.

 https://skypecasts.skype.com/skypecasts/skypecast/detailed.html?id_talk=1511

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Re: [Audyssey] skypecasts

2006-05-05 Thread Yohandy
I think that using it for that would be a great idea. But how will we keep 
them private? You need to post it on the skypecast list each time you create 
one, at least for now.

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 Friendly moderator's nudge here. When I replied to the original forward
 I was hoping it would spark discussions on whether using skypecast for
 our game conferences is an option. I'm not really interested much in how
 accessible the program is or not since we all have different
 hardware/software and different computer skills. So, let's either just
 talk about whether we want to move in that direction for the game chat
 which I've heard hardly anything on, or let's close the topic.

 smile.

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Re: [Audyssey] Skypecast and Top Speed

2006-05-05 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
I'll try to be there. Am definitely interested in trying out skypecast. 
I still think this may just be the thing to use for the game chats.

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Re: [Audyssey] skypecasts

2006-05-05 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
What is the reason and the purpose of making it private? I'm just 
curious. Perhaps it's because I don't know as much about how it all 
works so I'm not meaning it to be a stupid question.


Yohandy said the following on Fri, May 05, 2006 at 11:52:44AM -0400:
 I think that using it for that would be a great idea. But how will we keep 
 them private? You need to post it on the skypecast list each time you create 
 one, at least for now.

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Re: [Audyssey] skypecasts

2006-05-05 Thread will
hi

for the game chat would be brilliant
why not attract, even sighted people, spreading the word it hink is the key 
here
regards, will

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I think that using it for that would be a great idea. But how will we keep
 them private? You need to post it on the skypecast list each time you 
 create
 one, at least for now.

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 Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:31 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] skypecasts


 Friendly moderator's nudge here. When I replied to the original forward
 I was hoping it would spark discussions on whether using skypecast for
 our game conferences is an option. I'm not really interested much in how
 accessible the program is or not since we all have different
 hardware/software and different computer skills. So, let's either just
 talk about whether we want to move in that direction for the game chat
 which I've heard hardly anything on, or let's close the topic.

 smile.

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Re: [Audyssey] Skypecast and Top Speed

2006-05-05 Thread Neo
HI Will,
thanks for the interesting information. Unfortunately, I won't be able to 
join the Skypecast, so hope someone at least records it for future review. 
you know, I've always been deeply interested in any accessible game related 
reviews or so...
Best wishes,
Lukas
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Subject: [Audyssey] Skypecast and Top Speed


In 7 hours and 28 minutes from now, there will be a Skypecast with Top
 Speed.  No, I am not putting this on.  I ran across this wile browsing the
 Skypecast listings.

 https://skypecasts.skype.com/skypecasts/skypecast/detailed.html?id_talk=1511

 For those that are wondering when this was sent, it starts at 5:00 PM EDT,
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Re: [Audyssey] skypecasts

2006-05-05 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Why though? Why not let others join. We need more exposure out there I 
think. Although your question of kicking people off is valid in case of 
missfits. But I still don't see the need to be private.


david said the following on Fri, May 05, 2006 at 10:56:38AM -0500:
 You could just say that this is mainly for blind people or something, and 
 discourage everyone else from coming, and can you kick people off?


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[Audyssey] shellshock?

2006-05-05 Thread Jim J
Does anyone hae the set-up program for shellshock they wouldn't mind sending me 
please?  Thank you very much. 

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Re: [Audyssey] skypecasts

2006-05-05 Thread Terry Olandese
Hello. What version of skype do you need for skype casts? Terry O
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 Why though? Why not let others join. We need more exposure out there I
 think. Although your question of kicking people off is valid in case of
 missfits. But I still don't see the need to be private.


 david said the following on Fri, May 05, 2006 at 10:56:38AM -0500:
 You could just say that this is mainly for blind people or something, and
 discourage everyone else from coming, and can you kick people off?


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Re: [Audyssey] Skypecast and Top Speed

2006-05-05 Thread Chris Reagan
You bet I'll be there.
Chris
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 I'll try to be there. Am definitely interested in trying out skypecast.
 I still think this may just be the thing to use for the game chats.

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Re: [Audyssey] Jedi Strike was u s a game titles

2006-05-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi.
That is true, and one reason I am looking at alternitive ways of 
disabling an enemy. For example, you might want to use hand to hand 
combat like punching and kicking the individual to knock him her out 
rather than pulling out your light saber and killing him/her off. That 
is if preservation of life matters to the player.
The other angle is using the force to confuse or distract an enemy. This 
might allow you the chanse to slip through an area undetected, but 
however that power could be horrably abused. For example if you distract 
them and then use the light saber to kill them that spells more of dark 
side tactics then one a real Jedi would use.  While they are distracted 
they are not a threat, and killing them at that point would be, well, 
devious.
I am also adding, per user request, dark side powers. Understand though 
by using them you will hurt your game scoring, and alter events in your 
players life.




Christopher Bartlett wrote:
 One very important part of the Starwars universe is the concept that 
 the Jedi does the minimum violence necessary to achieve a greater 
 good.  Your game could include a system for tracking excessive 
 violence and at a certain point, the character has turned to the dark 
 side and is susceptible to manipulations by the lord(s) of the Sith.

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Re: [Audyssey] Jedi Strike was u s a game titles

2006-05-05 Thread allan thompson
Hi,
Is there a way to cut off hands and arms? You can't have a star wars game 
without the ability to cut off some limbs, smile.
The truth will set you free...
Jesus of Nazareth  33 AD
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jedi Strike was u s a game titles


 Hi.
 That is true, and one reason I am looking at alternitive ways of
 disabling an enemy. For example, you might want to use hand to hand
 combat like punching and kicking the individual to knock him her out
 rather than pulling out your light saber and killing him/her off. That
 is if preservation of life matters to the player.
 The other angle is using the force to confuse or distract an enemy. This
 might allow you the chanse to slip through an area undetected, but
 however that power could be horrably abused. For example if you distract
 them and then use the light saber to kill them that spells more of dark
 side tactics then one a real Jedi would use.  While they are distracted
 they are not a threat, and killing them at that point would be, well,
 devious.
 I am also adding, per user request, dark side powers. Understand though
 by using them you will hurt your game scoring, and alter events in your
 players life.




 Christopher Bartlett wrote:
 One very important part of the Starwars universe is the concept that
 the Jedi does the minimum violence necessary to achieve a greater
 good.  Your game could include a system for tracking excessive
 violence and at a certain point, the character has turned to the dark
 side and is susceptible to manipulations by the lord(s) of the Sith.

 Chris Bartlett



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Re: [Audyssey] I was informed (star wars)

2006-05-05 Thread Brandon Cole
Knights of the Old Republic 2. If you're a dark side character, you can turn 
a Wookie named Honhar into a Dark Jedi. Sorry, it's been done.
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Subject: [Audyssey] I was informed (star wars)


 My friend Adam, who prides himself in being a massive star wars 
 officionado, though he claims to like trek and I don't know if he's 
 teasing me or not but he won't believe that Worf was in most of the 
 seasons for DS9 (man that sentence was autrocious...a run on if I ever 
 heard of one! sorry!)
 At any rate, he says there's never been a wookie jedi so why make one?  I 
 said somone will write it in the books eventually...or you could break new 
 frontier and have The **FIRST** ever wookie gedi therefore pioneering into 
 the universe of Lucus and enriching it.  He says I have to ask George 
 before any of that.  *laughs*
 At any rate, I am at least writing his opinion downhe's sighted and 
 doesn't have the internet and wouldn't play so this doens't really bring 
 to bear but I wanted to know if you agree or nott.
 *chuckles*
 Chris
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Re: [Audyssey] Skypecast and Top Speed

2006-05-05 Thread Sarah
I'm lost. the listing says it starts at 7:00 unless I;m misreading the time 
on the page.
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In 7 hours and 28 minutes from now, there will be a Skypecast with Top
Speed.  No, I am not putting this on.  I ran across this wile browsing the
Skypecast listings.

https://skypecasts.skype.com/skypecasts/skypecast/detailed.html?id_talk=1511

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Re: [Audyssey] Skypecast and Top Speed

2006-05-05 Thread Sarah
I can do it if I'm there and if it's ok with the persion who started the 
skype cast listing.
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HI Will,
thanks for the interesting information. Unfortunately, I won't be able to
join the Skypecast, so hope someone at least records it for future review.
you know, I've always been deeply interested in any accessible game related
reviews or so...
Best wishes,
Lukas
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Subject: [Audyssey] Skypecast and Top Speed


In 7 hours and 28 minutes from now, there will be a Skypecast with Top
 Speed.  No, I am not putting this on.  I ran across this wile browsing the
 Skypecast listings.

 https://skypecasts.skype.com/skypecasts/skypecast/detailed.html?id_talk=1511

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Re: [Audyssey] strategy games

2006-05-05 Thread Che
  Hi Charles,
  I have played with those guys on ftp before.
  Most of them use a physical chess board and simply relay their move to the 
other person.  This works quite well, and can be done with messenger or any 
other text chat program.
  I can tell you from personal experience, the guys on ftp are very good and 
if you are new to chess, they will wipe the floor with you with no remorse.
  I reccomend KChess if you are looking for an excellent and accessible 
chess program, though online play is not an option as of the version I have 
at least.
  Good luck.
  Che
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 If anyone knows of a JAWS friendly way to play chess online, let me know?
 Thanks.  I know that it can, and is, done in the chess parlor of

 www.for-the-people.comm

 or any voice or text chat room, but I'm looking for an easy to use server.
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 Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 6:10 PM
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 Smiles thanks.  All my work is for my own enjoyment, but why not share 
 it.

 With the
 Strat Instructions Jukebox is my way to get others involved to help me
 reach
 my dream of having blind community sport sim leagues.

 You can also email me off:

 http://www.playball.ws

 and let me now if your interested and what sports.  I then send out 
 emails
 at times letting you know what I am doing.

 If you do belong to FTP then I am going to the game chat and there you 
 can
 ask me questions there.

 Crash
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 Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 9:31 PM
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 This sounds really great, being a blind man that was sighted at a time,
 and
 actually played Football, Basketball, baseball and also did some boxing
 I'm
 constantly looking for a real sport simulation game that I can really
 command and enjoy! Glad to hear what you are doing and good luck
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 The strat-o-Matic company only does American Major sports.

 The audio instructions for the
 Strat o Matic Instructions Jukebox
 Will help you along with learning the games.  I have just downloaded to
 playball.ws a file that is two hours long.  I still needed to write the
 blurb for it in the jukebox.

 The strat o Matic football had a big break through in making it
 accessible,
 that allow me to work with it.  I was able to find software that even
 helps
 Jaws to make the play calling a snap with
 Hot Spot  Clicker.  This was the only game that needed a third party
 software.  The good folks who created and improved Hot Spot Clicker are
 blind programmers who developed the tool to help with those new types 
 of
 graphical buttons and such that Jaws has overlooked.  The developemnt 
 of
 Jaws recently has gone away from making applications accessible to 
 doing
 things on the net Daisy books.  Hot Spot Clicker tool is for
 applications,
 but it does help in gaming as well.

 I am not a first class Jaws script writer, but what I have done so far
 the
 games with Strat I am proud of and willing now to share my work with
 others,
 so they too , can play  Sports Sims.  Where you can replay seasons from
 the
 past.  Replaying the 1985 football  season to relive the Bears
 Championship
 season.  I have also recently purchase the 1985 Basketball season to
 replay
 the season and coach a rookie name Jordan.  Relive the 1980's Oylimpic
 Miricle.  Right now I am in a draft for the 1937 season in my net
 league.

 The Basketball game is nearly completed in making it access to play. 
 And
 the
 audio instructions will also go into the
 Strat o Matic Instructions Jukebox.  The Jukebox will also allow you to
 hear
 the audio and save it to your hard drive.  The Jukebox will include
 downloaded files of the startup kit for baseball and the Jaws config
 files
 to make the games accessible.

 There is still a way to go in making the games even more accessible by
 ease
 of use.  I want to not just make them accessible, but easier to use. 
 By
 cutting down on the movement of Jaws with frames and such.  I have also
 been
 working on Voice recognition with the baseball game. This has been
 successful and interesting.

 Crash
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 Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 3:59 PM
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 Hey Crash, I like your strategy games idea too. Will the football be
 american football or european football? I like the baseball idea 

Re: [Audyssey] I was informed (star wars)

2006-05-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi.
Interesting. One of these days I am going to have to get my hands on the 
KOTR games. The more I hear about them I find they sound cool.




Brandon Cole wrote:
 Knights of the Old Republic 2. If you're a dark side character, you can turn 
 a Wookie named Honhar into a Dark Jedi. Sorry, it's been done.
   


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Re: [Audyssey] I was informed (star wars)

2006-05-05 Thread Brandon Cole
They are the incarnation of cool. Believe that. Can't be played without 
sight, but they are totally awesome if you can find someone to help.
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 Hi.
 Interesting. One of these days I am going to have to get my hands on the
 KOTR games. The more I hear about them I find they sound cool.




 Brandon Cole wrote:
 Knights of the Old Republic 2. If you're a dark side character, you can 
 turn
 a Wookie named Honhar into a Dark Jedi. Sorry, it's been done.



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Re: [Audyssey] Jedi Strike was u s a game titles

2006-05-05 Thread Richard Bennett
so does this mean that we will be able to become part of the dark side and 
fight for the dark side? I sure do hope so, that excites me and makes me 
want this game almost as bad as raceway. Tom, I sure do hope that you are 
going to allow us to become the dark side if we chose to become dark. Also 
what else should the force be used for if you want to be dark besides 
confusing your opponents memory and then bam the enemy is dead, man I 
can't wait.
BEAN 


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Re: [Audyssey] strategy games

2006-05-05 Thread Richard Bennett
hey Che, where would someone get the KChess program? What is the price of 
this program. I was looking and have been wanting to learn chess for many 
years and want to try and teach myself the game.
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[Audyssey] Chess for the blind

2006-05-05 Thread Che
  You can find out about K Chess at:
http://www.arkangles.com/kchess/

  I bought KChess Elite myself, but they have different versions at 
different prices.
  The guys in the chess parlor on FTP are very helpful for the beginner 
chess player.
  You can use the KChess program to keep track of moves if you play against 
someone online, but I highly reccomend you get a chess set for the blind 
from Ann Morris, or any other vendor of blind products, as having a board in 
front of you allows you to feel the pieces and get a good overview of the 
board.
  There are also chess lessons in audio format out there that you can track 
down and listen to.
  Good luck,
  Che

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 this program. I was looking and have been wanting to learn chess for many
 years and want to try and teach myself the game.
 BEAN


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Re: [Audyssey] Skypecast and Top Speed

2006-05-05 Thread Yohandy
Well, the skype cast has been rescheduled for tomorrow at 10 AM instead. I'm 
having some problems with port forwarding so can't really host at this time.
I should have it fixed by tomorrow, hopefully.


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 I'll try to be there. Am definitely interested in trying out skypecast.
 I still think this may just be the thing to use for the game chats.

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Re: [Audyssey] skypecasts

2006-05-05 Thread Yohandy

I meant private so that only those invited could join. As of now, all casts 
are viewable online.
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 What is the reason and the purpose of making it private? I'm just
 curious. Perhaps it's because I don't know as much about how it all
 works so I'm not meaning it to be a stupid question.


 Yohandy said the following on Fri, May 05, 2006 at 11:52:44AM -0400:
 I think that using it for that would be a great idea. But how will we 
 keep
 them private? You need to post it on the skypecast list each time you 
 create
 one, at least for now.

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Re: [Audyssey] skypecasts

2006-05-05 Thread Yohandy
yep, you can kick them and mute them as well.

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 You could just say that this is mainly for blind people or something, and
 discourage everyone else from coming, and can you kick people off?
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I think that using it for that would be a great idea. But how will we keep
 them private? You need to post it on the skypecast list each time you
 create
 one, at least for now.

 - Original Message - 
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 To: gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:31 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] skypecasts


 Friendly moderator's nudge here. When I replied to the original forward
 I was hoping it would spark discussions on whether using skypecast for
 our game conferences is an option. I'm not really interested much in how
 accessible the program is or not since we all have different
 hardware/software and different computer skills. So, let's either just
 talk about whether we want to move in that direction for the game chat
 which I've heard hardly anything on, or let's close the topic.

 smile.

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Re: [Audyssey] Skypecast and Top Speed

2006-05-05 Thread Sarah
10 am eastern? What is the  time zone given on the skype cast pages?
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Well, the skype cast has been rescheduled for tomorrow at 10 AM instead. I'm
having some problems with port forwarding so can't really host at this time.
I should have it fixed by tomorrow, hopefully.


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Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Skypecast and Top Speed


 I'll try to be there. Am definitely interested in trying out skypecast.
 I still think this may just be the thing to use for the game chats.

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 know how seldom they do.
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Re: [Audyssey] Skypecast and Top Speed

2006-05-05 Thread Yohandy
You choose your timezone.

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 10 am eastern? What is the  time zone given on the skype cast pages?
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 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Skypecast and Top Speed


 Well, the skype cast has been rescheduled for tomorrow at 10 AM instead. 
 I'm
 having some problems with port forwarding so can't really host at this 
 time.
 I should have it fixed by tomorrow, hopefully.


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 To: gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 11:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Skypecast and Top Speed


 I'll try to be there. Am definitely interested in trying out skypecast.
 I still think this may just be the thing to use for the game chats.

 -- 
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 know how seldom they do.
 -- Olin Miller.
 Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc

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Re: [Audyssey] Skypecast and Top Speed

2006-05-05 Thread Sarah
Hmm. How may I ask as it is showing wierd times that sound not right.
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You choose your timezone.

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 10 am eastern? What is the  time zone given on the skype cast pages?
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 Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Skypecast and Top Speed


 Well, the skype cast has been rescheduled for tomorrow at 10 AM instead.
 I'm
 having some problems with port forwarding so can't really host at this
 time.
 I should have it fixed by tomorrow, hopefully.


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 From: Raul A. Gallegos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 11:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Skypecast and Top Speed


 I'll try to be there. Am definitely interested in trying out skypecast.
 I still think this may just be the thing to use for the game chats.

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 know how seldom they do.
 -- Olin Miller.
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[Audyssey] GMA tank commander

2006-05-05 Thread Chris Frahm
First mission:
I get to the bridge and I don't know how to end my mission. It says bridge 
appointment and bridge I think I killed everything but it says warning 
collision course andI don't know what to do so I tried blowing up the bridge 
with my gun 'cause maybe it was some sort of enemy and I got destroyed.
How do I end my mission?
Thank you for all your help!
*grin*
Chris
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Re: [Audyssey] Chess for the blind

2006-05-05 Thread K4NKZ Jim Ardin
if you sign up for a class at Hadley school for the blind, I   was told that 
you can get a chess set for the blind for free!
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Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 3:41 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Chess for the blind


  You can find out about K Chess at:
 http://www.arkangles.com/kchess/

  I bought KChess Elite myself, but they have different versions at
 different prices.
  The guys in the chess parlor on FTP are very helpful for the beginner
 chess player.
  You can use the KChess program to keep track of moves if you play against
 someone online, but I highly reccomend you get a chess set for the blind
 from Ann Morris, or any other vendor of blind products, as having a board 
 in
 front of you allows you to feel the pieces and get a good overview of the
 board.
  There are also chess lessons in audio format out there that you can track
 down and listen to.
  Good luck,
  Che

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 Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] strategy games


 hey Che, where would someone get the KChess program? What is the price of
 this program. I was looking and have been wanting to learn chess for many
 years and want to try and teach myself the game.
 BEAN


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Re: [Audyssey] GMA tank commander

2006-05-05 Thread shaun everiss
the thing is a bridge abutment.
if you don't run just right you will have problems.
use your x key, do not  always trust your shortrange scanners.
ANd be warned you may have to finetune, the correct  way accross the 
bridge is a little off north.
At 09:36 AM 5/6/2006, you wrote:
First mission:
I get to the bridge and I don't know how to end my mission. It says 
bridge appointment and bridge I think I killed everything but it 
says warning collision course andI don't know what to do so I 
tried blowing up the bridge with my gun 'cause maybe it was some 
sort of enemy and I got destroyed.
How do I end my mission?
Thank you for all your help!
*grin*
Chris
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Re: [Audyssey] GMA tank commander

2006-05-05 Thread shaun everiss
I should also add that if you are not lined up then back off and try again.
I recomend that after blowing up the artilary to go east straight to 
the woods till woods are 50 meters away.
Then turn till you get the bridge and it should be 800 meters away.
I should warn you that you can manover close range type, but its 
really hard to do it so don't.
At 09:59 AM 5/6/2006, you wrote:
Hi Chris.
You end the level by crossing the bridge. You have to do it just right
or you will hit the bridge abutment, the pillers, that hold the bridge up.
It is pretty easy to cross it, but you have to be in the right sector
and facing the correct direction to do it. Smile.
Do not blow up the bridge. That will end the game faster than anything.


Chris Frahm wrote:
  First mission:
  I get to the bridge and I don't know how to end my mission. It 
 says bridge appointment and bridge I think I killed everything 
 but it says warning collision course andI don't know what to do 
 so I tried blowing up the bridge with my gun 'cause maybe it was 
 some sort of enemy and I got destroyed.
  How do I end my mission?
  Thank you for all your help!
  *grin*
  Chris
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Re: [Audyssey] GMA tank commander

2006-05-05 Thread Chris Frahm
what is manover?  thanks a ton.

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Re: [Audyssey] GMA tank commander

2006-05-05 Thread mvfegund
Hi,  dont go in to the brig inbacment, or what  ever lol, you have to look
for the brig.

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Subject: [Audyssey] GMA tank commander


 First mission:
 I get to the bridge and I don't know how to end my mission. It says
bridge appointment and bridge I think I killed everything but it says
warning collision course andI don't know what to do so I tried blowing up
the bridge with my gun 'cause maybe it was some sort of enemy and I got
destroyed.
 How do I end my mission?
 Thank you for all your help!
 *grin*
 Chris
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Re: [Audyssey] GMA tank commander

2006-05-05 Thread mvfegund
I think he missspelled it. Lol!

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 what is manover?  thanks a ton.

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[Audyssey] still having problem with shades and finding message on level 5

2006-05-05 Thread Chris Reagan
Hi there all:
Well, the subject says it all.  I didn't find anything at the toillet 
either.  Can someone help? 
thanks
Chris

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Re: [Audyssey] still having problem with shades and finding message onlevel 5

2006-05-05 Thread mvfegund
Coudent  find waht at waht?

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 Hi there all:
 Well, the subject says it all.  I didn't find anything at the toillet
 either.  Can someone help?
 thanks
 Chris

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Re: [Audyssey] GMA tank commander

2006-05-05 Thread shaun everiss
Hmm my spelling sucks, turn manuver
At 10:14 AM 5/6/2006, you wrote:
what is manover?  thanks a ton.

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Re: [Audyssey] GMA tank commander

2006-05-05 Thread Brandon armstrong
cross the bridge

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Subject: [Audyssey] GMA tank commander


 First mission:
 I get to the bridge and I don't know how to end my mission. It says 
 bridge appointment and bridge I think I killed everything but it says 
 warning collision course andI don't know what to do so I tried blowing 
 up the bridge with my gun 'cause maybe it was some sort of enemy and I got 
 destroyed.
 How do I end my mission?
 Thank you for all your help!
 *grin*
 Chris
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Re: [Audyssey] Jedi Strike was u s a game titles

2006-05-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Richard.
Let us just say I am strongly considdering the dark side angle 
carefully. The mainstream Star Wars games do this split all the time. 
Usually, the include Civilians and other non-combatants in the game 
which you kill to get dark force powers and points.
If you pick the light side you gradually get force skills, and force 
points. If you pick the dark side you rapidly gain points and skills, 
but usually kill the current bad Sith lords only to replace them and 
take there place and rank.
Actually, there is other orders of Dark Jedi besides the Sith. I am 
wondering if I should include any of them.
Of course, that could be in a different game where you play a Dark Jedi 
and attemp to move up through the ranks, kill other orders, and try and 
become the greatist of dark Jedi.





Richard Bennett wrote:
 so does this mean that we will be able to become part of the dark side and 
 fight for the dark side? I sure do hope so, that excites me and makes me 
 want this game almost as bad as raceway. Tom, I sure do hope that you are 
 going to allow us to become the dark side if we chose to become dark. Also 
 what else should the force be used for if you want to be dark besides 
 confusing your opponents memory and then bam the enemy is dead, man I 
 can't wait.
 BEAN 


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Re: [Audyssey] GMA tank commander

2006-05-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Maneuver. That means to move and change positions.


Chris Frahm wrote:
 what is manover?  thanks a ton.

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Re: [Audyssey] Chess for the blind

2006-05-05 Thread Richard Bennett
yeah you can, but I haven't been able to get my doc to sign the papers, I 
keep forgetting to get him to sign them when I go there to an appointment.
BEAN 


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Re: [Audyssey] Jedi Strike was u s a game titles

2006-05-05 Thread Richard Bennett
I like that idea as well of having a dark sith game as well as the force 
jedi game. either as a separate game or as 1 huge game. If I was better at 
game programming, I would offer to help in anyway, but am not that developed 
yet, but know that the offer is out there for when I get better.
BEAN 


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Re: [Audyssey] Jedi Strike was u s a game titles

2006-05-05 Thread shaun everiss
what someone in the middle?
neither good or dark, has this been done?
At 11:18 AM 5/6/2006, you wrote:
Hi Richard.
Let us just say I am strongly considdering the dark side angle
carefully. The mainstream Star Wars games do this split all the time.
Usually, the include Civilians and other non-combatants in the game
which you kill to get dark force powers and points.
If you pick the light side you gradually get force skills, and force
points. If you pick the dark side you rapidly gain points and skills,
but usually kill the current bad Sith lords only to replace them and
take there place and rank.
Actually, there is other orders of Dark Jedi besides the Sith. I am
wondering if I should include any of them.
Of course, that could be in a different game where you play a Dark Jedi
and attemp to move up through the ranks, kill other orders, and try and
become the greatist of dark Jedi.





Richard Bennett wrote:
  so does this mean that we will be able to become part of the dark side and
  fight for the dark side? I sure do hope so, that excites me and makes me
  want this game almost as bad as raceway. Tom, I sure do hope that you are
  going to allow us to become the dark side if we chose to become dark. Also
  what else should the force be used for if you want to be dark besides
  confusing your opponents memory and then bam the enemy is dead, man I
  can't wait.
  BEAN
 
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Jedi Strike was u s a game titles

2006-05-05 Thread shaun everiss
I would like to test if said huge game comes out, would seriously 
kick major but.
At 11:45 AM 5/6/2006, you wrote:
I like that idea as well of having a dark sith game as well as the force
jedi game. either as a separate game or as 1 huge game. If I was better at
game programming, I would offer to help in anyway, but am not that developed
yet, but know that the offer is out there for when I get better.
BEAN


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Re: [Audyssey] Chess for the blind

2006-05-05 Thread Allen
Hi, Everyone,

That is true.  I work at the Hadley school and I've also taken the Chess 
course and received a Chess board and adapted pieces at the beginning of 
this course.  I could keep the board and Chess pieces.


Allen
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Re: [Audyssey] Jedi Strike was u s a game titles

2006-05-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi.
Oh, it would have to be two separate gamees alright. The ladder game 
would probably follow something along the lines of the Sith Academy type 
game.
You would begin the game on the lowest level of the skale, and then face 
off in compititions with other dark Jedi warriors for their standings. 
You also would slowly gain more powers of deception, force abilities, 
grow in anger and hate, and learn to feed off of the dark side energies. 
Cool concepts, but out side of Jedi strike.
In Jedi strike I would have to add something more simple like decisions 
like  rescue or kill a civilian, use force or not use force on an 
enemy,  and stay away from dark side powers or use them.


Richard Bennett wrote:
 I like that idea as well of having a dark sith game as well as the force 
 jedi game. either as a separate game or as 1 huge game. If I was better at 
 game programming, I would offer to help in anyway, but am not that developed 
 yet, but know that the offer is out there for when I get better.
 BEAN 


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Re: [Audyssey] dark side

2006-05-05 Thread Thomas Ward
One thing I am thinking about is in one of the missions you must rescue 
a captured team of Jedi Knights that went missing.
I see a possible dark sie decision brewing here. If you rescue them you 
are taking a light path. If you whipe out the enemies and deecide since 
the Jedis are missing if you kill them you are starting to turn to the 
dark side.
At some point in the game I can  imagine you can trade in your old Jedi 
light saber for a SITH saber.



Chris Frahm wrote:
 I really hope to go dark just so I see what it's like...but to be an 
 honorable gedi with the forceit takes more charecter.  So it should be a 
 little harder for the gains are much more and non-selfish.
 Does one respond with anger and hate?  Does one respond with compassion?  
 Great questions for all of us to think about.
 Can't wait to play!
 Chris
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Re: [Audyssey] Jedi Strike was u s a game titles

2006-05-05 Thread Richard Bennett
I thought that it may be 2 different games, but you could sell them as a 
package for a lower price if someone wanted both of them, and give them to 
me for me *laugh* Just kidding. But anyways both of the games sound awesome.
BEAN 


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Re: [Audyssey] dark side

2006-05-05 Thread Richard Bennett
awesome concept there, then you could play the rest of the game as a sith if 
you wanted to, lol, I just can't get past that concept of being able to 
turn. I like the sith saber too, the dual light saber is really cool, adds 
twice the chance of blocking and attacking your opponent.
BEAN 


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Re: [Audyssey] Jedi Strike was u s a game titles

2006-05-05 Thread Thomas Ward

I have no idea, but that sounds like an intermediate stage.


 shaun everiss wrote:
 what someone in the middle?
 neither good or dark, has this been done?
   


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Re: [Audyssey] dark side

2006-05-05 Thread Brandon Cole
Going back to KOTOR once again, you can actually weild a duel lightsaber, 
light or dark. You can even weild two at once. Now that's a battle-hungry 
jedi right there.
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 awesome concept there, then you could play the rest of the game as a sith 
 if
 you wanted to, lol, I just can't get past that concept of being able to
 turn. I like the sith saber too, the dual light saber is really cool, adds
 twice the chance of blocking and attacking your opponent.
 BEAN


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Re: [Audyssey] Jedi Strike was u s a game titles

2006-05-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi.
seriously, that would be a good possability. When the second game came 
out have a combo pack like the way GMA does.


Richard Bennett wrote:
 I thought that it may be 2 different games, but you could sell them as a 
 package for a lower price if someone wanted both of them, and give them to 
 me for me *laugh* Just kidding. But anyways both of the games sound awesome.
 BEAN 


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Re: [Audyssey] dark side

2006-05-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Oh, man!
A duel sith saber? In the right hands those are awesome weapons. Darth 
Maul  just about kicked both Obi-Wan's and Qui-Gan's butt single 
handedly with one of those babies.
It is a shame not more dark lords cary those things.
In a game that would be especially hard to beat. They would have two 
points of attack and block.




Richard Bennett wrote:
 awesome concept there, then you could play the rest of the game as a sith if 
 you wanted to, lol, I just can't get past that concept of being able to 
 turn. I like the sith saber too, the dual light saber is really cool, adds 
 twice the chance of blocking and attacking your opponent.
 BEAN 


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Re: [Audyssey] dark side

2006-05-05 Thread Richard Bennett
yeah I would love to have all the powers that a jedi knight have as well as 
all the powers a sith lord has all at the same time, but that is requesting 
way too much, lol.
BEAN 


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Re: [Audyssey] Jedi Strike was u s a game titles

2006-05-05 Thread Richard Bennett
yes it would be. But I will purchase the jedi game when it first comes out, 
so people who purchase the jedi version when it comes out wouldn't get that 
deal, but oh well. That is the price a customer pays for buying a game that 
they really want.
BEAN 


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Re: [Audyssey] dark side

2006-05-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Yeah, and wielding two sabers would be interesting. I thought that was 
cool when Anican did it in Attack of the Clones. To bad it didn't work 
for him.  Of course he was biting off more than he could chew at the time.
Anyway, back to topic. With different styles of sabers means different 
tactics and styles of using them. I would imagine the more dificult the 
saber construction the more skilled the character would have to be.
We have long light sabers, medium sized ones, and short ones. Then, you 
have twin blade and duel blade jobes. Presents all kinds of fighting 
advantages and disadvantages for each one.






Brandon Cole wrote:
 Going back to KOTOR once again, you can actually weild a duel lightsaber, 
 light or dark. You can even weild two at once. Now that's a battle-hungry 
 jedi right there.
   


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Re: [Audyssey] dark side

2006-05-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Richard!
Man you are missing out on some good books. Do yourself a favor and read 
some of the Star Wars triligies. They have added allot of new main 
characters, and the movies only scratch the serface of what is there in 
book form.
One thing you might want to catch on to early on is some of the Star 
Wars history is not just in books. They kind of have to create history 
for the games and comic books which adds to the Universe as well.
For example, when Mara Jade was introduced in the Thrawn triligy she had 
been trained by Emperor Palpatine in the dark arts, and was sent on a 
mission to kill Luke Skywalker. However, she was turned, and her 
character fell in to a more generalised roll.
Next thing I know Lucas Arts came out with the game Mysteries of the 
Sith where you get to play Mara Jade, in the game and suddenly she is 
now a full fledged Jedi Knight. Kind of came out of know where.
The books and especially the Star Wars comics picked up her status as a 
Jedi and she makes it to Master in the books and comics, and  winds up 
meried to Luke Skywalker after all. Grin.


Richard Bennett wrote:
 I didn't know that. I have never read any of the star wars books, and I am 
 assumming that this comes from the books. I have only watched the movies, 
 possibly I should read the books.
 BEAN 


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Re: [Audyssey] dark side

2006-05-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi.
I'd have to think on that one. I haven't thought much about actually 
coding something like that right now.


Richard Bennett wrote:
 yeah I know that could be something that you could code into the game. But 
 how would you distinguish the 2 different ends of the dual saber? 


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Re: [Audyssey] dark side

2006-05-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Um... Dark Jedi have all the same powers as a light side Jedi, but they 
just twist and abuse them for evil and dark purposes.


Richard Bennett wrote:
 yeah I would love to have all the powers that a jedi knight have as well as 
 all the powers a sith lord has all at the same time, but that is requesting 
 way too much, lol.
 BEAN 


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