Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files
Oh, but Charlie. Tom was always outstanding in school. That is he was outstanding in the hallway. - Original Message - From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> heh heh hehTo: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files > Tom: Don't shoot your feet off. If you did, you would never be able to be > out standing in your field. > - Original Message - > From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:09 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files > > > > Hi, > > Ahemm... Yeah, it is possible, and there are tools that could do it, but > > I would be compromising ESPs security by allowing you to know the > > secrets of how they pack and unpack the *.esp files. > > It's a technology USA Games may or may not use in our comercial games so > > I would be shooting myself in the foot if I gave the secret away as > > well. Grin. > > > > > > Sky Taylor wrote: > >> I don't know if you can put the voices into wave files. > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Samuel Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: > >> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 7:33 AM > >> Subject: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files > >> > >> > >> > >>> Hello, Does anyone know of a way of unpacking the ESP Pinball Extreme > >>> files into wave files? The reason is because I would like to make old > >>> man > >>> Stanley sound like old dalek Stanley. > >>> > >>> Samuel Wilkins > >>> Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Skype Cleverclogs6953 > >>> MSN Instant Messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> A O L Instant Messenger Samuel4851 > >>> ___ > >>> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > >>> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > >>> visit > >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > >>> any subscription changes via the web. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > >> visit > >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > >> any subscription changes via the web. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > ___ > > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > > visit > > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > > any subscription changes via the web. > > > > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] trouble running USa games.
what about dotnet 3, its just come out. At 04:57 AM 11/13/2006, Thomas Ward wrote: >Hi, >End user problems with the .NET Framework 1.1 is the major reason all >future releases of STFC, Monty, and all other games will be using >framework 2.0. >Just for reference with .NET Framework 1.0 and 1.1 it use to create a >special account on your computer. In order to restore your functunality >and disable the login issue you speak of you needed to go in to control >panel, go to users, and remove the extra unneded framework account >before restarting. I can say a system restore was unnecessary. All you >needed to do was remove the account. >Now, as for STFC and Montezuma's Revenge the binaries themselves will >run with Framework 2.0, but the installer was setup to only check for >1.1.43.22. I'm rewriting the installer and recompiling them to work with >Framework 2.0 so in the next month or so look for updates that resolves >your issues. > > >Dark wrote: >> Hello. >> >> the discussion of Rale racer yesterday prompted me to go and have another >> look at Net Framework. Everytime I'd tried to install it in the past, it not >> only refused to work, but also caused huge problems at start up, which i >> could only fix with a system restore. >> >> I've now downloaded NEt Framework 2.0 redistributable package from: >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0856eacb-4362-4b0d-8edd-aab15c5e04f5&displaylang=en >> >> >> and I'm very pleased to say it appears to work fine, and I've been able to >> run a non-audio game related application that I've been wanting to run for >> quite a long while now. >> >> the two games from Usa games, Monti and Startrek Final conflict however, >> stil tell me to go and install net framework, which I obviously have already >> done. >> >> Will games made to run with Net Framework v1 not run with v2? Is there >> another component I need to install? >> >> Any help or advice would be much appreciated, sinse both games sound very >> much like my sort of thing. >> >> thanks in advance, >> >> dark. >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> >> > > >___ >Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] railracer lerkers
Hi all. For those that want to listen to a live test hang around vipconduit. any time from now till the end of the night. I can't say times, but you should catch a test around 7, only the audio part of it though. There is an earlier test but since its early morning here I doubt I will make that one. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files
hi tom, see the msg i posted to you off list. You were talking about pak files and that they were week and esp files. Read my message. I hope thats clue enough for you. You are making a mistake with the esp extention. At 05:31 AM 11/13/2006, Thomas Ward wrote: >Hi, >That is correct. If a game company is encrypting there files in a file >then they generally don't want you copying, changing, or doing things >with the game files. Cracking the files can get you in hot water with >the company in question. >I as a developer know what Draconis was using for it's own titles I >myself now am able to make the ESP files since I took over Alchemy's >Raceway project. However, I am not willing to share that information >with the public at large. >Smile. > > >x-sight interactive wrote: >> if the developer has encrypted any files in their products it's because they >> don't want them tampered with. usually if a game dev wants to allow sounds >> to be changed they don't encrypt the sounds, but sometimes even if the >> sounds are decrypted it's because a dev doesn't know how to. >> >> so i doubt you'll be able to. that's just my thoughts and experiences on the >> matter. >> >> regards, >> >> damien >> > > >___ >Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] Moderator's Note RE: Pinball Xtreme files
Please close this line of discussion. Let's remember guide line number 3 for this list. 3. A list member may be removed/banned by the moderators without prior warning if circumstances warrant an immediate response. This could be but is not limited to unacceptable postings containing; salacious or defamatory material, piracy, cracking/hacking of any software, and anything illegal. It will be up to the moderators to decide on whether to allow any removed/banned list member back to the list. * x-sight interactive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-11-12 17:06]: > well that is quite easy to hack, unless you encrypt the sounds in the exe. > there is a resource hacking program, which coincidently i use for changing > the version information for the programs i make which can retrieve sounds > out of exes and dlls. > > regards, -- Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought: -- Ezekiel 38:10 Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] is issue 50 out yet?
Welcome back! Hope your move went well! Sean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:33 PM To: audyssey gamers list Subject: [Audyssey] is issue 50 out yet? I've been offline since the ninth of October. Has the fiftieth edition of Audyssey come out yet? If so, could someone send it to me? Thanks in advance. Also, what's been going on since then? Dang, it's good to be back online! -- Shepherds are the best beasts! ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files
That was not a wise move, i think. - Original Message - From: "x-sight interactive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files > well that is quite easy to hack, unless you encrypt the sounds in the exe. > there is a resource hacking program, which coincidently i use for changing > the version information for the programs i make which can retrieve sounds > out of exes and dlls. > > regards, > > damien > > > - Original Message - > From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:37 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files > > >> >> Hi, >> Also there is another way to secure sound effects and it is about as >> full proof as it gets. In Visual C++ you can clude your effects as a >> resource, and compile it directly in to the *.exe file. It pretty much >> insures no one will get at them. You can also build them in to a *.dll >> and access them remotely. >> I recommend the *.dll as it makes them extremely secure, and it doesn't >> make your *.exe file the size of Texas. >> >> >> >> > it is an interesting topic though. if people do want to encrypt their > sounds >> > they all do it in different ways. some people use comaudio to do all >> > the >> > dirty work, some people use other external software, and then there are >> > those that try and disguise them by changing a .zip filename to .dat or >> > something similar, then there are those experts that write out their >> > own >> > encryption/decryption routines. i wouldn't encrypt many of my game > sounds, >> > as it can be fun to change the sounds and hear what it sounds like with >> > different effects, but as i learned quite a while back by thomas here, > and >> > other devs on this list, some companies think differently, so we all > have to >> > respect their policies, which i can fully understand. >> > >> > regards, >> > >> > damien >> > >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> > > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files
well that is quite easy to hack, unless you encrypt the sounds in the exe. there is a resource hacking program, which coincidently i use for changing the version information for the programs i make which can retrieve sounds out of exes and dlls. regards, damien - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files > > Hi, > Also there is another way to secure sound effects and it is about as > full proof as it gets. In Visual C++ you can clude your effects as a > resource, and compile it directly in to the *.exe file. It pretty much > insures no one will get at them. You can also build them in to a *.dll > and access them remotely. > I recommend the *.dll as it makes them extremely secure, and it doesn't > make your *.exe file the size of Texas. > > > > > it is an interesting topic though. if people do want to encrypt their sounds > > they all do it in different ways. some people use comaudio to do all the > > dirty work, some people use other external software, and then there are > > those that try and disguise them by changing a .zip filename to .dat or > > something similar, then there are those experts that write out their own > > encryption/decryption routines. i wouldn't encrypt many of my game sounds, > > as it can be fun to change the sounds and hear what it sounds like with > > different effects, but as i learned quite a while back by thomas here, and > > other devs on this list, some companies think differently, so we all have to > > respect their policies, which i can fully understand. > > > > regards, > > > > damien > > > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] alaska was Re: ESP Pinball Extreme Files
alaska. I believe it's about three times the size of Texas - Original Message - From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files > You sure that is not the size of Alaska. Which is bigger BTW? Texas or > Alaska. I forget. Also, I failed this subject in social studies back in > grade school. LOL. > > * Thomas Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-11-12 13:38]: >> >> Hi, >> Also there is another way to secure sound effects and it is about as >> full proof as it gets. In Visual C++ you can clude your effects as a >> resource, and compile it directly in to the *.exe file. It pretty much >> insures no one will get at them. You can also build them in to a *.dll >> and access them remotely. >> I recommend the *.dll as it makes them extremely secure, and it doesn't >> make your *.exe file the size of Texas. > > > > -- > And I will set the Egyptians against the Egyptians: and they shall > fight every one against his brother, and every one against his > neighbour; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom. > -- Isaiah 19:2 > Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files
You sure that is not the size of Alaska. Which is bigger BTW? Texas or Alaska. I forget. Also, I failed this subject in social studies back in grade school. LOL. * Thomas Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-11-12 13:38]: > > Hi, > Also there is another way to secure sound effects and it is about as > full proof as it gets. In Visual C++ you can clude your effects as a > resource, and compile it directly in to the *.exe file. It pretty much > insures no one will get at them. You can also build them in to a *.dll > and access them remotely. > I recommend the *.dll as it makes them extremely secure, and it doesn't > make your *.exe file the size of Texas. -- And I will set the Egyptians against the Egyptians: and they shall fight every one against his brother, and every one against his neighbour; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom. -- Isaiah 19:2 Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files
Lol! /good one Charles. Welcome back to the list. Grin. Charles Rivard wrote: > Tom: Don't shoot your feet off. If you did, you would never be able to be > out standing in your field. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files
Hi, Also there is another way to secure sound effects and it is about as full proof as it gets. In Visual C++ you can clude your effects as a resource, and compile it directly in to the *.exe file. It pretty much insures no one will get at them. You can also build them in to a *.dll and access them remotely. I recommend the *.dll as it makes them extremely secure, and it doesn't make your *.exe file the size of Texas. > it is an interesting topic though. if people do want to encrypt their sounds > they all do it in different ways. some people use comaudio to do all the > dirty work, some people use other external software, and then there are > those that try and disguise them by changing a .zip filename to .dat or > something similar, then there are those experts that write out their own > encryption/decryption routines. i wouldn't encrypt many of my game sounds, > as it can be fun to change the sounds and hear what it sounds like with > different effects, but as i learned quite a while back by thomas here, and > other devs on this list, some companies think differently, so we all have to > respect their policies, which i can fully understand. > > regards, > > damien > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] self destruct
I can't believe it! I beat self destruct on hard difficulty. It seems as if the urchin lord battle is the easiest part of the whole game so far. My spoiler will work exactly the same way on hard. Now its only insane that's there to beat. There i have to watch out for mines in the grid. After all self destruct isn't that bad. there's only one bug in the game and that's when the sounds get mixed up if you die in the urchin lord battle. then you hear the urchin lord battle music while you are back in the grid and you hear the step sound as you walk on the battle field while you are actually back in the grid after losing a life and if you then pause the game it terminates after displaying a message. But otherwise I think its a cool game. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files
Tom: Don't shoot your feet off. If you did, you would never be able to be out standing in your field. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files > Hi, > Ahemm... Yeah, it is possible, and there are tools that could do it, but > I would be compromising ESPs security by allowing you to know the > secrets of how they pack and unpack the *.esp files. > It's a technology USA Games may or may not use in our comercial games so > I would be shooting myself in the foot if I gave the secret away as > well. Grin. > > > Sky Taylor wrote: >> I don't know if you can put the voices into wave files. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Samuel Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 7:33 AM >> Subject: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files >> >> >> >>> Hello, Does anyone know of a way of unpacking the ESP Pinball Extreme >>> files into wave files? The reason is because I would like to make old >>> man >>> Stanley sound like old dalek Stanley. >>> >>> Samuel Wilkins >>> Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Skype Cleverclogs6953 >>> MSN Instant Messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> A O L Instant Messenger Samuel4851 >>> ___ >>> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >>> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >>> visit >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >>> any subscription changes via the web. >>> >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] Accessible online poker
Hi all, Yes, I brought this up some while ago, but I better tell you what sites I have tried. I have tried everything with Window-Eyes, not JAWS. www.partypoker.com With the help of the mouse keys I was able to sign up for a playMoney account. I had difficulties selecting playmoney or realmoney tables. Once I managed to select a table I could view the ongoing game. The cards are shown as text on the table, dont think that your own cards are shown as text thgouh. The cards are shown as 10C for ten of clubs, 8H for eight of hearts, and so on. There are hotkeys for folding calling and racing. I was not able to take a seat at the table either. I clicked on every graphic but with no luck. Maybe it had to do with that i was at a realmoney table. www.absolutepoker.com They have keyboard shortcuts for most functions but WIndow-Eyes crashed with their client, but it was some time since I tried it so maybe it will work better now. www.pokerstars.com has no keyboard access so not possible to use. Also, some of the installers are not accessible at all. I have tried a few more but with simular results. I really hope that someone is interested in also maybe testing and telling how it goes. I have also written to most of them, but their interest is not that big. I have also posted to several online forums, and have recieved some comments but nothing that makes it possible to play as of yet. All the best and thanks, Christian ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] trouble running USa games.
Hello. It's nice to know there was nothing going majorly wrong with my Pc reguarding Net framework 1.1. I've been banging my head against that particular wall off and on for quite a long while now - I should've just asked you in the first place, Grin. Luckily, I never lost anything through the system restore. sinse I've never had to mess with the hole account business on my Pc (there's only muggins to use it), I have absolutely no idea of hhow those features of windows work, so it wouldn't have occurred to me to look for extra accounts. anyhow, as your modifying the installers to work with net Framework 2.0, I hopefully won't have to worry about such problems again. Hoping to try out some games soon, dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] trouble running USa games. > Hi, > End user problems with the .NET Framework 1.1 is the major reason all > future releases of STFC, Monty, and all other games will be using > framework 2.0. > Just for reference with .NET Framework 1.0 and 1.1 it use to create a > special account on your computer. In order to restore your functunality > and disable the login issue you speak of you needed to go in to control > panel, go to users, and remove the extra unneded framework account > before restarting. I can say a system restore was unnecessary. All you > needed to do was remove the account. > Now, as for STFC and Montezuma's Revenge the binaries themselves will > run with Framework 2.0, but the installer was setup to only check for > 1.1.43.22. I'm rewriting the installer and recompiling them to work with > Framework 2.0 so in the next month or so look for updates that resolves > your issues. > > > Dark wrote: >> Hello. >> >> the discussion of Rale racer yesterday prompted me to go and have another >> look at Net Framework. Everytime I'd tried to install it in the past, it >> not only refused to work, but also caused huge problems at start up, >> which i could only fix with a system restore. >> >> I've now downloaded NEt Framework 2.0 redistributable package from: >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0856eacb-4362-4b0d-8edd-aab15c5e04f5&displaylang=en >> >> and I'm very pleased to say it appears to work fine, and I've been able >> to run a non-audio game related application that I've been wanting to run >> for quite a long while now. >> >> the two games from Usa games, Monti and Startrek Final conflict however, >> stil tell me to go and install net framework, which I obviously have >> already done. >> >> Will games made to run with Net Framework v1 not run with v2? Is there >> another component I need to install? >> >> Any help or advice would be much appreciated, sinse both games sound very >> much like my sort of thing. >> >> thanks in advance, >> >> dark. >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files
I just want to do it for fun. I tried using Dragon Unpacker on the files with a *.pbx extention but it didn't work. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files > Hi, > Ahemm... Yeah, it is possible, and there are tools that could do it, but > I would be compromising ESPs security by allowing you to know the > secrets of how they pack and unpack the *.esp files. > It's a technology USA Games may or may not use in our comercial games so > I would be shooting myself in the foot if I gave the secret away as > well. Grin. > > > Sky Taylor wrote: >> I don't know if you can put the voices into wave files. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Samuel Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 7:33 AM >> Subject: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files >> >> >> >>> Hello, Does anyone know of a way of unpacking the ESP Pinball Extreme >>> files into wave files? The reason is because I would like to make old >>> man >>> Stanley sound like old dalek Stanley. >>> >>> Samuel Wilkins >>> Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Skype Cleverclogs6953 >>> MSN Instant Messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> A O L Instant Messenger Samuel4851 >>> ___ >>> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >>> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >>> visit >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >>> any subscription changes via the web. >>> >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.3/530 - Release Date: 11/11/2006 > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files
Hi, That is correct. If a game company is encrypting there files in a file then they generally don't want you copying, changing, or doing things with the game files. Cracking the files can get you in hot water with the company in question. I as a developer know what Draconis was using for it's own titles I myself now am able to make the ESP files since I took over Alchemy's Raceway project. However, I am not willing to share that information with the public at large. Smile. x-sight interactive wrote: > if the developer has encrypted any files in their products it's because they > don't want them tampered with. usually if a game dev wants to allow sounds > to be changed they don't encrypt the sounds, but sometimes even if the > sounds are decrypted it's because a dev doesn't know how to. > > so i doubt you'll be able to. that's just my thoughts and experiences on the > matter. > > regards, > > damien > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files
it is an interesting topic though. if people do want to encrypt their sounds they all do it in different ways. some people use comaudio to do all the dirty work, some people use other external software, and then there are those that try and disguise them by changing a .zip filename to .dat or something similar, then there are those experts that write out their own encryption/decryption routines. i wouldn't encrypt many of my game sounds, as it can be fun to change the sounds and hear what it sounds like with different effects, but as i learned quite a while back by thomas here, and other devs on this list, some companies think differently, so we all have to respect their policies, which i can fully understand. regards, damien - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files > Hi, > Ahemm... Yeah, it is possible, and there are tools that could do it, but > I would be compromising ESPs security by allowing you to know the > secrets of how they pack and unpack the *.esp files. > It's a technology USA Games may or may not use in our comercial games so > I would be shooting myself in the foot if I gave the secret away as > well. Grin. > > > Sky Taylor wrote: > > I don't know if you can put the voices into wave files. > > - Original Message - > > From: "Samuel Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 7:33 AM > > Subject: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files > > > > > > > >> Hello, Does anyone know of a way of unpacking the ESP Pinball Extreme > >> files into wave files? The reason is because I would like to make old man > >> Stanley sound like old dalek Stanley. > >> > >> Samuel Wilkins > >> Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Skype Cleverclogs6953 > >> MSN Instant Messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> A O L Instant Messenger Samuel4851 > >> ___ > >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > >> visit > >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > >> any subscription changes via the web. > >> > >> > > > > > > ___ > > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > > any subscription changes via the web. > > > > > > > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files
if the developer has encrypted any files in their products it's because they don't want them tampered with. usually if a game dev wants to allow sounds to be changed they don't encrypt the sounds, but sometimes even if the sounds are decrypted it's because a dev doesn't know how to. so i doubt you'll be able to. that's just my thoughts and experiences on the matter. regards, damien - Original Message - From: "Samuel Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 3:33 PM Subject: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files > Hello, Does anyone know of a way of unpacking the ESP Pinball Extreme files into wave files? The reason is because I would like to make old man Stanley sound like old dalek Stanley. > > Samuel Wilkins > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype Cleverclogs6953 > MSN Instant Messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] > A O L Instant Messenger Samuel4851 > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files
Hi, Ahemm... Yeah, it is possible, and there are tools that could do it, but I would be compromising ESPs security by allowing you to know the secrets of how they pack and unpack the *.esp files. It's a technology USA Games may or may not use in our comercial games so I would be shooting myself in the foot if I gave the secret away as well. Grin. Sky Taylor wrote: > I don't know if you can put the voices into wave files. > - Original Message - > From: "Samuel Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 7:33 AM > Subject: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files > > > >> Hello, Does anyone know of a way of unpacking the ESP Pinball Extreme >> files into wave files? The reason is because I would like to make old man >> Stanley sound like old dalek Stanley. >> >> Samuel Wilkins >> Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Skype Cleverclogs6953 >> MSN Instant Messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> A O L Instant Messenger Samuel4851 >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files
aSFARASiKNOW,YOUCAN'TPUTTHEFILESINTOWAVEFILES. - Original Message - From: "Samuel Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 7:33 AM Subject: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files > Hello, Does anyone know of a way of unpacking the ESP Pinball Extreme > files into wave files? The reason is because I would like to make old man > Stanley sound like old dalek Stanley. > > Samuel Wilkins > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype Cleverclogs6953 > MSN Instant Messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] > A O L Instant Messenger Samuel4851 > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files
I don't know if you can put the voices into wave files. - Original Message - From: "Samuel Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 7:33 AM Subject: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files > Hello, Does anyone know of a way of unpacking the ESP Pinball Extreme > files into wave files? The reason is because I would like to make old man > Stanley sound like old dalek Stanley. > > Samuel Wilkins > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype Cleverclogs6953 > MSN Instant Messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] > A O L Instant Messenger Samuel4851 > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] trouble running USa games.
Hi, End user problems with the .NET Framework 1.1 is the major reason all future releases of STFC, Monty, and all other games will be using framework 2.0. Just for reference with .NET Framework 1.0 and 1.1 it use to create a special account on your computer. In order to restore your functunality and disable the login issue you speak of you needed to go in to control panel, go to users, and remove the extra unneded framework account before restarting. I can say a system restore was unnecessary. All you needed to do was remove the account. Now, as for STFC and Montezuma's Revenge the binaries themselves will run with Framework 2.0, but the installer was setup to only check for 1.1.43.22. I'm rewriting the installer and recompiling them to work with Framework 2.0 so in the next month or so look for updates that resolves your issues. Dark wrote: > Hello. > > the discussion of Rale racer yesterday prompted me to go and have another > look at Net Framework. Everytime I'd tried to install it in the past, it not > only refused to work, but also caused huge problems at start up, which i > could only fix with a system restore. > > I've now downloaded NEt Framework 2.0 redistributable package from: > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0856eacb-4362-4b0d-8edd-aab15c5e04f5&displaylang=en > > > and I'm very pleased to say it appears to work fine, and I've been able to > run a non-audio game related application that I've been wanting to run for > quite a long while now. > > the two games from Usa games, Monti and Startrek Final conflict however, stil > tell me to go and install net framework, which I obviously have already done. > > Will games made to run with Net Framework v1 not run with v2? Is there > another component I need to install? > > Any help or advice would be much appreciated, sinse both games sound very > much like my sort of thing. > > thanks in advance, > > dark. > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] trouble running USa games.
Hi. thanks for letting me know, I'll look forward to trying out both games at the next release. Dark. - Original Message - From: "Neo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] trouble running USa games. > Hi Dark, > the builds of Tom's games he currently offers for download on his site are > designated to run with .Net Framework 1.1, and the installer looks for > this > version and no other. HOwever, he is already working on new releases that > will support the 2.0 branch of the framework. > Hope this helps. > Take care, > Lukas > - Original Message - > From: "Dark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:20 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] trouble running USa games. > > >> Hello. >> >> the discussion of Rale racer yesterday prompted me to go and have another >> look at Net Framework. Everytime I'd tried to install it in the past, it >> not only refused to work, but also caused huge problems at start up, >> which >> i could only fix with a system restore. >> >> I've now downloaded NEt Framework 2.0 redistributable package from: >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0856eacb-4362-4b0d-8edd-aab15c5e04f5&displaylang=en >> >> and I'm very pleased to say it appears to work fine, and I've been able >> to >> run a non-audio game related application that I've been wanting to run >> for >> quite a long while now. >> >> the two games from Usa games, Monti and Startrek Final conflict however, >> stil tell me to go and install net framework, which I obviously have >> already done. >> >> Will games made to run with Net Framework v1 not run with v2? Is there >> another component I need to install? >> >> Any help or advice would be much appreciated, sinse both games sound very >> much like my sort of thing. >> >> thanks in advance, >> >> dark. >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> __ Informace od NOD32 1.1454 (20060321) __ >> >> Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32. >> http://www.nod32.cz >> >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] ESP Pinball Extreme Files
Hello, Does anyone know of a way of unpacking the ESP Pinball Extreme files into wave files? The reason is because I would like to make old man Stanley sound like old dalek Stanley. Samuel Wilkins Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype Cleverclogs6953 MSN Instant Messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] A O L Instant Messenger Samuel4851 ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] is issue 50 out yet?
Hi Charles, Welcome back. I hope your move was a pleasant one, grin. No the issue is not out yet. >From what little I have been keeping track of, USA Games has had some announcements concerning time frames for some game releases, and a new project concerning an open source asteroids game which involves some game programing training kit. I also think there was some talk of a flight program usable for the blind which involves a spread sheet program. I don't recall any games being released, but there was the usual talk concerning muds, and on line games. I hope that helps a little. I Also seem to remember Draconis releasing some information such as they are having a sale for the holidays, and I think they put up an RSS feed. That is all I can remember, I hope that helps a little. al Father, forgive them, For they know not what they do Jesus of Nazareth 33 AD - Original Message - From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "audyssey gamers list" Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:32 PM Subject: [Audyssey] is issue 50 out yet? > I've been offline since the ninth of October. Has the fiftieth edition of > Audyssey come out yet? If so, could someone send it to me? Thanks in > advance. Also, what's been going on since then? Dang, it's good to be > back online! > -- > Shepherds are the best beasts! > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] trouble running USa games.
Hello. the discussion of Rale racer yesterday prompted me to go and have another look at Net Framework. Everytime I'd tried to install it in the past, it not only refused to work, but also caused huge problems at start up, which i could only fix with a system restore. I've now downloaded NEt Framework 2.0 redistributable package from: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0856eacb-4362-4b0d-8edd-aab15c5e04f5&displaylang=en and I'm very pleased to say it appears to work fine, and I've been able to run a non-audio game related application that I've been wanting to run for quite a long while now. the two games from Usa games, Monti and Startrek Final conflict however, stil tell me to go and install net framework, which I obviously have already done. Will games made to run with Net Framework v1 not run with v2? Is there another component I need to install? Any help or advice would be much appreciated, sinse both games sound very much like my sort of thing. thanks in advance, dark. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] trouble running USa games.
Hi Dark, the builds of Tom's games he currently offers for download on his site are designated to run with .Net Framework 1.1, and the installer looks for this version and no other. HOwever, he is already working on new releases that will support the 2.0 branch of the framework. Hope this helps. Take care, Lukas - Original Message - From: "Dark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:20 PM Subject: [Audyssey] trouble running USa games. > Hello. > > the discussion of Rale racer yesterday prompted me to go and have another > look at Net Framework. Everytime I'd tried to install it in the past, it > not only refused to work, but also caused huge problems at start up, which > i could only fix with a system restore. > > I've now downloaded NEt Framework 2.0 redistributable package from: > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0856eacb-4362-4b0d-8edd-aab15c5e04f5&displaylang=en > > and I'm very pleased to say it appears to work fine, and I've been able to > run a non-audio game related application that I've been wanting to run for > quite a long while now. > > the two games from Usa games, Monti and Startrek Final conflict however, > stil tell me to go and install net framework, which I obviously have > already done. > > Will games made to run with Net Framework v1 not run with v2? Is there > another component I need to install? > > Any help or advice would be much appreciated, sinse both games sound very > much like my sort of thing. > > thanks in advance, > > dark. > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > __ Informace od NOD32 1.1454 (20060321) __ > > Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32. > http://www.nod32.cz > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] organ help for chilingham
If you actually talked to the parrot you shouldn't have any problems. I know from experience that if you play the right notes before listening to the parrot it doesn't work, but why you're having problems I don't know. If all else fails you could just press F5 which is the universal cheat, but I try to avoid that as much as possible. - Original Message - From: "Chris Reagan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 3:28 PM Subject: [Audyssey] organ help for chilingham > Hi there all: > Okay I go to play the organ using the right notes that the parret has > given me, but nothing is happening. did I do something wrong? > thanks > Chris > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
