Re: [Audyssey] Lunimals feedback
Chris, I absolutely Loved this explanation! Very well thought out, and very well written. I'm especially happy that you took the time to explain, why, the populations should be kept at your suggested levels during the process. I am so incredibly happy to know someone is seeing, and appreciating, the complexity I tried to code into this little sim. You rock! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Luminal, the latest version impressions.
I have missed most of the backstory on this; the game alone sounds like fun. Is it a free game? Can I play it with Windows XP? What's the object? :) Jane On May 13, 2011, at 4:19 AM, Christopher Bartlett wrote: Ok, I beat the second quest. (Hint, there is a nicety of timing when to introduce your turtles) Now I'm on to the third, which is proving equally provoking and addictive, but there are still some niggles. Why can't I destroy rocks? Rocks do not have a destroy option. Why can't I destroy piranha? Yes, I tried out the piranha and at one point was low on power but wanted to rid myself of a few of the pesky things, but, while destroy is presented as an option for the p command, hitting shift-delete doesn't destroy one. On the subject of piranha, I think these boys may be a little unbalanced. In my current game, I have 1,295 of the bloody things. Their die-off rate seems a bit low and they're not reacting to available food supply (or lack thereof) as expected. I have no fish and no aquatic bugs left, only a couple of turtles and some assorted land critters. They aren't killing off the land critters, so I don't know how they're surviving the sterilized waters they currently inhabit. Neat idea, but you may want to rebalance them. With both kaymans and turtles in the water, I'd have expected the population to stay a bit more in control. And sadly, Jaws 12 doesn't work with the game, or at least it doesn't on my machine. By the way, when you have 1300 piranha, the game slows down to a crawl, then freezes completely. I had to exit via the task manager. As I've saved along the way, I may now be screwed. I don't know if this is a speech delay thing, or I've just managed to choke my machine. If it's the latter, then about three more ticks would have killed anybody, as I'd have 3,000 or more piranha. Ok, the amount of feedback I'm giving you now rivals David Greenwood. Be honored sir. Chris --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Jane --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Luminal, the latest version impressions.
Yes, this is a free game. It should work just fine, on your windows XP machine. The object of the game is to build, and maintain an eco system. Each mission gives you a series of quests, or goals, that could be anything from accumulating a certain amount of money, to breeding a certain number of some particular animal species. You could think of it as a puzzle game, a strategy game, and a simulation game. --- On Fri, 5/13/11, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Luminal, the latest version impressions. To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Friday, May 13, 2011, 2:08 PM I have missed most of the backstory on this; the game alone sounds like fun. Is it a free game? Can I play it with Windows XP? What's the object? :) Jane On May 13, 2011, at 4:19 AM, Christopher Bartlett wrote: Ok, I beat the second quest. (Hint, there is a nicety of timing when to introduce your turtles) Now I'm on to the third, which is proving equally provoking and addictive, but there are still some niggles. Why can't I destroy rocks? Rocks do not have a destroy option. Why can't I destroy piranha? Yes, I tried out the piranha and at one point was low on power but wanted to rid myself of a few of the pesky things, but, while destroy is presented as an option for the p command, hitting shift-delete doesn't destroy one. On the subject of piranha, I think these boys may be a little unbalanced. In my current game, I have 1,295 of the bloody things. Their die-off rate seems a bit low and they're not reacting to available food supply (or lack thereof) as expected. I have no fish and no aquatic bugs left, only a couple of turtles and some assorted land critters. They aren't killing off the land critters, so I don't know how they're surviving the sterilized waters they currently inhabit. Neat idea, but you may want to rebalance them. With both kaymans and turtles in the water, I'd have expected the population to stay a bit more in control. And sadly, Jaws 12 doesn't work with the game, or at least it doesn't on my machine. By the way, when you have 1300 piranha, the game slows down to a crawl, then freezes completely. I had to exit via the task manager. As I've saved along the way, I may now be screwed. I don't know if this is a speech delay thing, or I've just managed to choke my machine. If it's the latter, then about three more ticks would have killed anybody, as I'd have 3,000 or more piranha. Ok, the amount of feedback I'm giving you now rivals David Greenwood. Be honored sir. Chris --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Jane --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] looking for world of legends
Hey, could someone please help me with a game? I went to audio games but when I click on the download link for world of legends nothing happen. If someone could upload this game to send space and give the link on the list that would be wonderful. I know this game is a freeware game. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Lunimals feedback
Hmmm. I suppose this game will take me a bit to get used to. My stratogy has been a bit sloppy. Usually I have got 2 things to get them to reproduce. If I can get enough cash, since most missions from 1-4 were for one target, I was basically buying bits and pieces when I was close to a target. Knowing that if I got everything on max they only had to survive for the second it took the mission quest to complete. Ofcause its harder now. At 07:07 p.m. 14/05/2011, you wrote: Chris, I absolutely Loved this explanation! Very well thought out, and very well written. I'm especially happy that you took the time to explain, why, the populations should be kept at your suggested levels during the process. I am so incredibly happy to know someone is seeing, and appreciating, the complexity I tried to code into this little sim. You rock! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Lunimals feedback
more spoilers: ... ... the same holds for snakes. I've found that snakes are the best animals to keep when looking to make money. For mission 7, keep your snake population between 12 and 20 and sell off snakes as needed. I quickly repayed my lone that way.- Original Message - From: Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Lunimals feedback Warning: something of a S P O I L E R! S P O I L E R! Read at your own risk, this text direct to you from the heart of the Fukushima reactor, etc, etc. So beating the fish and turtles thing is a bit of a slog, but there's a consistent setup I use that gets me to the tricky part. Buy two, and only two fish. Monitor their numbers *very* carefully. When they reach 7, sell the extra 5 to get back down to 2. (You may find a time where you have 8 because of happy, reproductive fish, sell 6). You need to do this in order to make sufficient money to get your first turtle. Keep cycling through until you have your $160,000. Buy 1 and only 1 turtle. Now your fish balancing gets slightly trickier. I found that keeping 4 fish as the minimum to sell down to seemed to work pretty well. When you have 9 or 10 fish, sell down to four. Keep bringing in that advertising and sales money until you are ready for your second turtle. Now here's the art, and where my instructions get a little fuzzy. When you're about to buy your second turtle, you have to begin letting the fish population grow a little more. I think 13 to 15 was the number I chose for the minimum, so let it grow to 18-20 and sell down. The tricky part is that in this region, reproduction isn't predictably one at a time, so you will have to catch it quickly. Too few and the turtles eat them. Too many, and you have a population explosion and subsequent crash, and with 2 turtles, that crash might be fatal to your fish. If you screw up and have an explosion with less than 2 turtles, you'll be fine, ride it out until the numbers crash back down into the low teens then start over. Your biggest enemy is power loss and being unable to sell, so monitor your power consumption carefully. I'm not seeing a huge effect of bug numbers on the fish cycle. I think a large bug reproduction simply lengthens the cycle. I haven't tried balancing fish with only algae though so that effect may be more significant than I think. Note, this same strategy will work in a modified form for the later parts of mission 6, though there, you're working with land animals, and mice are more forgiving than fish. I'm currently stuck on the part of mission 7 with the added loan. That quarter million every 120 ticks is brutal. I've also had a hell of a time keeping squirrels alive if there's anything else in the dome. For fun, I started rabbits and squirrels to see if I could get a sustainable population before introducing mice. The mice are too efficient acorn eaters to allow the squirrels to live in any of my domes so far. I did get a stable rabbit population to coexist with maximized mice, but it hovered around 5-10 rabbits after the die-off that came with the mouse explosion. Can you tell I've been thinking a lot about this game? Well done Jeremy, and I'm excited to see what comes next. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Lunimals feedback
Wow how long does 1 of these games last? Also will you be able to do other stuff with the money? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Willem Sent: 14 May 2011 11:41 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Lunimals feedback more spoilers: ... ... the same holds for snakes. I've found that snakes are the best animals to keep when looking to make money. For mission 7, keep your snake population between 12 and 20 and sell off snakes as needed. I quickly repayed my lone that way.- Original Message - From: Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Lunimals feedback Warning: something of a S P O I L E R! S P O I L E R! Read at your own risk, this text direct to you from the heart of the Fukushima reactor, etc, etc. So beating the fish and turtles thing is a bit of a slog, but there's a consistent setup I use that gets me to the tricky part. Buy two, and only two fish. Monitor their numbers *very* carefully. When they reach 7, sell the extra 5 to get back down to 2. (You may find a time where you have 8 because of happy, reproductive fish, sell 6). You need to do this in order to make sufficient money to get your first turtle. Keep cycling through until you have your $160,000. Buy 1 and only 1 turtle. Now your fish balancing gets slightly trickier. I found that keeping 4 fish as the minimum to sell down to seemed to work pretty well. When you have 9 or 10 fish, sell down to four. Keep bringing in that advertising and sales money until you are ready for your second turtle. Now here's the art, and where my instructions get a little fuzzy. When you're about to buy your second turtle, you have to begin letting the fish population grow a little more. I think 13 to 15 was the number I chose for the minimum, so let it grow to 18-20 and sell down. The tricky part is that in this region, reproduction isn't predictably one at a time, so you will have to catch it quickly. Too few and the turtles eat them. Too many, and you have a population explosion and subsequent crash, and with 2 turtles, that crash might be fatal to your fish. If you screw up and have an explosion with less than 2 turtles, you'll be fine, ride it out until the numbers crash back down into the low teens then start over. Your biggest enemy is power loss and being unable to sell, so monitor your power consumption carefully. I'm not seeing a huge effect of bug numbers on the fish cycle. I think a large bug reproduction simply lengthens the cycle. I haven't tried balancing fish with only algae though so that effect may be more significant than I think. Note, this same strategy will work in a modified form for the later parts of mission 6, though there, you're working with land animals, and mice are more forgiving than fish. I'm currently stuck on the part of mission 7 with the added loan. That quarter million every 120 ticks is brutal. I've also had a hell of a time keeping squirrels alive if there's anything else in the dome. For fun, I started rabbits and squirrels to see if I could get a sustainable population before introducing mice. The mice are too efficient acorn eaters to allow the squirrels to live in any of my domes so far. I did get a stable rabbit population to coexist with maximized mice, but it hovered around 5-10 rabbits after the die-off that came with the mouse explosion. Can you tell I've been thinking a lot about this game? Well done Jeremy, and I'm excited to see what comes next. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All
Re: [Audyssey] looking for world of legends
http://www.sendspace.com/file/sy5qlh I actually thought someone was hosting it, but obviously it's not being done currently. anyway here it is. The game is freeware, pluss I've communicated with the author myself and he's just pleased people are stil playing this game which he wrote for fun. Enjoy. The writing is rather slapdash, and the game becomes far too easy once your halfway through but the quests, locations and fun stuff like minigames are deffinately worth it. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 10:36 AM Subject: [Audyssey] looking for world of legends Hey, could someone please help me with a game? I went to audio games but when I click on the download link for world of legends nothing happen. If someone could upload this game to send space and give the link on the list that would be wonderful. I know this game is a freeware game. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for world of legends
You don't want to play that game It's a pain in the ***. I played it for hours and hours only to find out that because I didn't up my stats the way that the game thought I should have I couldn't beet it and so I was stuck. It wasn't very well written. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 5:36 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] looking for world of legends Hey, could someone please help me with a game? I went to audio games but when I click on the download link for world of legends nothing happen. If someone could upload this game to send space and give the link on the list that would be wonderful. I know this game is a freeware game. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 6120 (20110513) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 6120 (20110513) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for world of legends
Funny darren, I always found the thing too easy myself, even if you don't use the rather cheap tactic to get some uba weapons and armour right at the start of the game. It's got it's issues I'll admit, but it is stil fun. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for world of legends You don't want to play that game It's a pain in the ***. I played it for hours and hours only to find out that because I didn't up my stats the way that the game thought I should have I couldn't beet it and so I was stuck. It wasn't very well written. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 5:36 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] looking for world of legends Hey, could someone please help me with a game? I went to audio games but when I click on the download link for world of legends nothing happen. If someone could upload this game to send space and give the link on the list that would be wonderful. I know this game is a freeware game. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 6120 (20110513) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 6120 (20110513) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Recovering a lost Alter Aeon characteR
Orin, I'll look up your characters and contact you in-game with the list. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Was just curious if there is any way for me to recover a lost Alter Aeon character? Besides the one I created this morning, I'm trying to think of the last one I created as it was nearly done the Slow newbie quests I believe so instead of starting over with another character I'd like to login with im again. Can't exactly remember his name either. I'm certain at character creation I did type my email, so I wonder if Dentin can recover him that way. Thanks. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] alterr Aeon crafting?
Will this mud ever offer or does it offer crafting or any other way of getting exp outside of killing? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] rock band 3: Cry lonely: expert guitar.
This band has the coolest name ever. Cross Canadian Ragweed. lol! I love it. Enjoy! http://www.sendspace.com/file/acsq9p --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Luminals, version 1.6b
I've just uploaded version 1.8b. I'm still having trouble with JAWS, so I put something temporary into this version, for JAWS users. It seems to work, but isn't what I want it to be yet. I haven't found a lot of helpful documentation for JAWS scripts. This version also fixes a bug, which made piranha populations sometimes go unstable. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Luminal, the latest version impressions.
I wonder if it can be ever ported to the Mac? I'd love to be able to play it on this, my Mac Mini, not just my Windows laptop. Jane On May 14, 2011, at 3:46 AM, Jeremy Kaldobsky wrote: Yes, this is a free game. It should work just fine, on your windows XP machine. The object of the game is to build, and maintain an eco system. Each mission gives you a series of quests, or goals, that could be anything from accumulating a certain amount of money, to breeding a certain number of some particular animal species. You could think of it as a puzzle game, a strategy game, and a simulation game. --- On Fri, 5/13/11, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Luminal, the latest version impressions. To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Friday, May 13, 2011, 2:08 PM I have missed most of the backstory on this; the game alone sounds like fun. Is it a free game? Can I play it with Windows XP? What's the object? :) Jane On May 13, 2011, at 4:19 AM, Christopher Bartlett wrote: Ok, I beat the second quest. (Hint, there is a nicety of timing when to introduce your turtles) Now I'm on to the third, which is proving equally provoking and addictive, but there are still some niggles. Why can't I destroy rocks? Rocks do not have a destroy option. Why can't I destroy piranha? Yes, I tried out the piranha and at one point was low on power but wanted to rid myself of a few of the pesky things, but, while destroy is presented as an option for the p command, hitting shift-delete doesn't destroy one. On the subject of piranha, I think these boys may be a little unbalanced. In my current game, I have 1,295 of the bloody things. Their die-off rate seems a bit low and they're not reacting to available food supply (or lack thereof) as expected. I have no fish and no aquatic bugs left, only a couple of turtles and some assorted land critters. They aren't killing off the land critters, so I don't know how they're surviving the sterilized waters they currently inhabit. Neat idea, but you may want to rebalance them. With both kaymans and turtles in the water, I'd have expected the population to stay a bit more in control. And sadly, Jaws 12 doesn't work with the game, or at least it doesn't on my machine. By the way, when you have 1300 piranha, the game slows down to a crawl, then freezes completely. I had to exit via the task manager. As I've saved along the way, I may now be screwed. I don't know if this is a speech delay thing, or I've just managed to choke my machine. If it's the latter, then about three more ticks would have killed anybody, as I'd have 3,000 or more piranha. Ok, the amount of feedback I'm giving you now rivals David Greenwood. Be honored sir. Chris --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Jane --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Jane --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Luminals, version 1.6b
I didn't think getting JAWS to work, would take me this long. If I had known, I would have just fixed SAPI sooner. I went ahead and fixed the game's SAPI output, so JAWS users can just use the built in SAPI. I didn't change the game's version number, but if you download again, the link leads to a copy where the SAPI is working. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] alterr Aeon crafting?
Mike, Actually, only about half of the experience on the game comes directly from killing monsters, and there's a lot of other ways to get experience. For example, using your spells and skills, even outside of combat, is worth a lot. A lot of healers follow groups around to heal others, but never actually participate in combat. Here are some other things you can do to get experience that don't involve killing: - thieves can shoplift, steal, bribe, and brew poisons - necromancers can do a lot of interesting things with demon summoning and raising undead - clerics can heal, resurrect, and turn undead - mages can brew and bottle potions for others - quests - achievements - exploreration points - skill/spell improvement That said, there isn't much of a crafting skillset right now. The closest we have to true crafting are probably the brew and various necromancer skills for raising undead. There are a number of quests that have crafting of specific items to complete the quest, but these are usually high level and I'd say they don't count. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:20 PM, mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net wrote: Will this mud ever offer or does it offer crafting or any other way of getting exp outside of killing? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Luminals, version 1.6b
What is the url to download it? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Kaldobsky Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 1:05 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Luminals, version 1.6b I've just uploaded version 1.8b. I'm still having trouble with JAWS, so I put something temporary into this version, for JAWS users. It seems to work, but isn't what I want it to be yet. I haven't found a lot of helpful documentation for JAWS scripts. This version also fixes a bug, which made piranha populations sometimes go unstable. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] alterr Aeon crafting?
Dennis thanks for that info. Is there any chance of this ever being implemented? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Towne Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 2:03 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] alterr Aeon crafting? Mike, Actually, only about half of the experience on the game comes directly from killing monsters, and there's a lot of other ways to get experience. For example, using your spells and skills, even outside of combat, is worth a lot. A lot of healers follow groups around to heal others, but never actually participate in combat. Here are some other things you can do to get experience that don't involve killing: - thieves can shoplift, steal, bribe, and brew poisons - necromancers can do a lot of interesting things with demon summoning and raising undead - clerics can heal, resurrect, and turn undead - mages can brew and bottle potions for others - quests - achievements - exploreration points - skill/spell improvement That said, there isn't much of a crafting skillset right now. The closest we have to true crafting are probably the brew and various necromancer skills for raising undead. There are a number of quests that have crafting of specific items to complete the quest, but these are usually high level and I'd say they don't count. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:20 PM, mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net wrote: Will this mud ever offer or does it offer crafting or any other way of getting exp outside of killing? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Luminals, version 1.6b
www.kaldobsky.com/audiogames/lunimals.zip --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] search party problem
Hey, I just downloaded search party from the usa games interactive site. I downloaded the game and the patch but when I try to extract the patch to the game I keep getting the trial notice. Can someone please give me some help with this small problem? Thanks. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] rock band 3: Cry lonely: expert guitar.
Who makes this rock Band stuff? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] alterr Aeon crafting?
Mike, Yes, it's one of our 'big projects' for this year, but it will probably happen later this year rather than sooner. If that changes and it's appropriate to do so, I'll post here to let people know. Thanks, Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:39 PM, mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net wrote: Dennis thanks for that info. Is there any chance of this ever being implemented? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Towne Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 2:03 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] alterr Aeon crafting? Mike, Actually, only about half of the experience on the game comes directly from killing monsters, and there's a lot of other ways to get experience. For example, using your spells and skills, even outside of combat, is worth a lot. A lot of healers follow groups around to heal others, but never actually participate in combat. Here are some other things you can do to get experience that don't involve killing: - thieves can shoplift, steal, bribe, and brew poisons - necromancers can do a lot of interesting things with demon summoning and raising undead - clerics can heal, resurrect, and turn undead - mages can brew and bottle potions for others - quests - achievements - exploreration points - skill/spell improvement That said, there isn't much of a crafting skillset right now. The closest we have to true crafting are probably the brew and various necromancer skills for raising undead. There are a number of quests that have crafting of specific items to complete the quest, but these are usually high level and I'd say they don't count. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:20 PM, mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net wrote: Will this mud ever offer or does it offer crafting or any other way of getting exp outside of killing? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] alterr Aeon crafting?
Thanks Dennis -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Towne Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 4:54 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] alterr Aeon crafting? Mike, Yes, it's one of our 'big projects' for this year, but it will probably happen later this year rather than sooner. If that changes and it's appropriate to do so, I'll post here to let people know. Thanks, Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:39 PM, mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net wrote: Dennis thanks for that info. Is there any chance of this ever being implemented? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Towne Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 2:03 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] alterr Aeon crafting? Mike, Actually, only about half of the experience on the game comes directly from killing monsters, and there's a lot of other ways to get experience. For example, using your spells and skills, even outside of combat, is worth a lot. A lot of healers follow groups around to heal others, but never actually participate in combat. Here are some other things you can do to get experience that don't involve killing: - thieves can shoplift, steal, bribe, and brew poisons - necromancers can do a lot of interesting things with demon summoning and raising undead - clerics can heal, resurrect, and turn undead - mages can brew and bottle potions for others - quests - achievements - exploreration points - skill/spell improvement That said, there isn't much of a crafting skillset right now. The closest we have to true crafting are probably the brew and various necromancer skills for raising undead. There are a number of quests that have crafting of specific items to complete the quest, but these are usually high level and I'd say they don't count. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:20 PM, mike maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net wrote: Will this mud ever offer or does it offer crafting or any other way of getting exp outside of killing? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] search party problem
Hi Michael, When installing the patch you have to copy the setup file to the Search Party directory and then run it. For some reason if you don't do that it won't properly update the game to the full version. Also if you are running Vista or Windows 7 make sure you run the patch as administrator. HTH On 5/14/11, michael barnes c...@samobile.net wrote: Hey, I just downloaded search party from the usa games interactive site. I downloaded the game and the patch but when I try to extract the patch to the game I keep getting the trial notice. Can someone please give me some help with this small problem? Thanks. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Fish/algae issue in Luminals
Ok, something seems to have changed in fish population behavior. I got my 50 fish and went on from there. The fish exploded and crashed down to about 10. And then they stayed there. The algae seemed to reproduce *very* slowly, and for a fish population that fluctuates between 10 and 15, the algae count never gets higher than about 50, which doesn't seem to be enough to sustain any fish population growth. Needless to say, this makes piranha breeding problematic. Has something changed in the fish or algae reproduction cycle? I did fill all my water with the maximum rocks possible for bug production, but algae production didn't seem to be affected when I did that in the earlier missions. BTW, when on a water tile, the dirt info should be replaced by water info so shift-3 yields the amount of open water, since dirt is not there. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.