Re: [Audyssey] Eric the Cleric
There usually are demos. My guess is there aren't any now because he's finalizing the newest version of te game. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Lori Duncan Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 8:54 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Eric the Cleric Hi does anyone know if there are demos availible for these games so I know what they're like before buying? I checked the site but didn't find any to download. Thanks from Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Pinball?
You can still get the pinball game and its sequel from www.draconisentertainment.com. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Jenni Palmer Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:37 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Pinball? So, I know ages ago there was a shareware pinball game that was accessible. Is there anywhere I can get an accessible pinball game? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy St. Pactric's Day
Now if I could just get my hands on a set of Uilleann Pipes. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:14 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy St. Pactric's Day Well up at this end of the country, irish wisky doesn't really count, it's got to be Scotish or nothing, - sinse remember I'm only an hour on the train from Edinboughr :d. I did however have a coffee and balies this evening :d, and I can certainly play you a jig and sing a few Irish songs. In fact when a few years ago now I was in county witlow cycling, it was a great way of getting free drinks, which were deffinately necessary given how dam far we were cycling, sometimes 60 miles a day! :D. I'll stop now sinse this be getting ot. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy St. Pactric's Day Rum ye say? That' not be in the Irish spirit mate. Ye need somethin' a little more Irish as today is St. Patty's Day. I say, whack for my daddio. Whack for my daddio. There's whiskey in the jar. Cheers! On 3/17/2012 1:48 PM, dark wrote: Hi tom. same to yee, though amusingly enough I've spent the day wandering around a very English 19th century restored naval gallian, actually the oldest floating battle ship in europe, as well as waving around a muskit, though no rum sadly :D. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] [IOSSilversword
There was a lot of talk about it when it first came out. And an attempt was made to try to get improved accessibility built into the game. But while the developer did seem interested at first, any chance of it was most likely destroyed when a list member, I won't name him, kept Emailing the developer and annoyed him to the point where he basically snapped. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Sharon Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:28 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] [IOSSilversword Hi, I was wondering if anyone that is blind plays silversword on the iphone? I don't seem to see a lot of vo output with what is going on in the game. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sharon --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] [IOSSilversword
I'm guessing Sharon's using the most recent version. For my part I did try it not long ago and didn't notice any improvement. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Allison Mervis Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 12:13 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] [IOSSilversword There have been several updates released since the time of those fateful communications, so I would recommend just trying it and seeing whether or not accessibility has been improved. Allison -- From: bpeterson2...@cableone.net Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 9:32 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] [IOSSilversword There was a lot of talk about it when it first came out. And an attempt was made to try to get improved accessibility built into the game. But while the developer did seem interested at first, any chance of it was most likely destroyed when a list member, I won't name him, kept Emailing the developer and annoyed him to the point where he basically snapped. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Sharon Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:28 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] [IOSSilversword Hi, I was wondering if anyone that is blind plays silversword on the iphone? I don't seem to see a lot of vo output with what is going on in the game. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sharon --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A Proposal for Game Developers
I think it's a good idea. I didn't get into the audio gaming world until 2004, up to which point I'd only ever played mainstream games Needless to say I was extremely disappointed with the simplistic nature of most of what was out there up to that point. The only real exception was Shades of Doom. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Ben Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:19 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Proposal for Game Developers Hi Thomas, Having played mainstream games for many years (despite my being blind from birth), and that is why I am making my new game closer to mainstream things - with multiple weapons and a somewhat odd control scheme as some would consider it. But your idea is also a very good one since I believe that people on this list, not trying to put it bluntly, need an education and lessons in mainstream gaming before we can begin to catch up... -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 27 March 2012 03:53 To: Audyssey Mailing List Subject: [Audyssey] A Proposal for Game Developers Hi everyone, I've just had an idea that might aid current and future audio game developers. I realize that many of the people on this list are blind and have been blind since birth and therefore haven't had much experience with mainstream games. As a result a lot of developers and gamers look at some audio game and assume that it is somehow representative of that type of game even though it might be lacking in several areas. Often times the developer himself/herself is unaware of this fact because they haven't been exposed to that genre of game before. For example, let's say someone downloaded Super Liam and assumed that all mainstream side-scrollers were like that. Of course, they'd be wrong because Super Liam does not really deal with a 2d environment, doesn't really have an up/down axis of movement, and most action is handled from left to right. There is no advanced combat that takes advantage of a 2d environment like flying enemies you have to shoot out of the air, enemies above you in the tree tops, and other such traps common to mainstream games. It is certainly a decent game, but is not representative of true side-scrollers. Since this seems to be a common issue with blind developers and blind gamers alike I thought what I'd do is write a document outlining what mainstream games are like, use some classic examples of 2d side-scrollers, 3d first-person shooters, and some 3d third-person shooters. Maybe do a chapter on arcade games and try and describe a few different examples of that genre. Especially, since most people have done the Space Invaders thing, but there is a lot more to arcade than Space Invader type games. I think if I write a document on explaining each kind of game in detail, explain what kinds of features are common to each, maybe audio game developers will be able to come away with some new ideas and be able to begin building more advanced audio games. Anyone interested in this idea? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4895 - Release Date: 03/26/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A Proposal for Game Developers
I think that right there would turn a lot of blind gamers off. If you have to get even a little sighted help or look at a separate document to learn the options in the menus it's not worth it to them. Sad I know, but that's the way a lot of them are. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Clement Chou Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:26 AM To: birdlover2...@hotmail.com ; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Proposal for Game Developers Well, as to how we read menus, most of us do it through trial and error or get sighted help. I don't know if anyone else imports games from Asia, but I do... and that's actually helpful at times because for games that have no localization some people write out the menus in English with all the options and whatnot which makes life easier. Items and characters are the same way. - Original Message - From: Alfredo_The_Music_maker birdlover2...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Proposal for Game Developers Hello Thomas, As a totally blind person since birth, I have had very little or no experience with mainstream games. I do not know how Wii's wok, or what kind of gaming my friends who own such consoles are up to. It is only fair that the blind people have one place, called audio games, and sighted people have mainstream. Now it is a good thing that we are trying to combine the two together to make this experience fun for everyone. Unfortunately, time does not wait for no one, and we have lives to live. One specific game I was looking forward to was the Legend of Zelda, Skyward Sword. It is one of those games played on the Wii, and according to the audio games forum, someone said that it is not fully accessible. I was wondering if there would ever be a time that it could be made accessible. I have some ideas as to how to make any mainstream accessible. We all know that for blind people, we have to use headphones to hear where sounds are coming. Unfortunately, most television sets have mono speakers, and a few are starting to have headphone 3.5 MM jacks As mentioned earlier, I am ignorant to this world of mainstream-gaming. I do not chow how much support there is in playing games. How do blind people navigate the menus, select items, play the game, check their score and other vital signs with the game controller? There are many types of controllers. It sounds like one is going to have to get used to a brand-new system that is totally unfamiliar Usually I consider video-gaming to be very distracting, but if there was something good that came out of those mainstream games, then I would want OT see how accessibility could be improved. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A Proposal for Game Developers
Me, I'd like to see a game in the style of those old Wing Commander games if anybody here remembers those. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Damien Pendleton Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 2:04 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Proposal for Game Developers Hi Thomas, This would certainly be a good idea. I'm always struggling to come up with interesting storylines and action, purely because I'm sick of the kind of space invader clone that we are seeing more and more of and I don't really know of anything else that hasn't already been taken in audiogames. That's why it tends to take me so long to come out with a new title - most of my time is spent thinking. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Audyssey Mailing List gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:52 AM Subject: [Audyssey] A Proposal for Game Developers Hi everyone, I've just had an idea that might aid current and future audio game developers. I realize that many of the people on this list are blind and have been blind since birth and therefore haven't had much experience with mainstream games. As a result a lot of developers and gamers look at some audio game and assume that it is somehow representative of that type of game even though it might be lacking in several areas. Often times the developer himself/herself is unaware of this fact because they haven't been exposed to that genre of game before. For example, let's say someone downloaded Super Liam and assumed that all mainstream side-scrollers were like that. Of course, they'd be wrong because Super Liam does not really deal with a 2d environment, doesn't really have an up/down axis of movement, and most action is handled from left to right. There is no advanced combat that takes advantage of a 2d environment like flying enemies you have to shoot out of the air, enemies above you in the tree tops, and other such traps common to mainstream games. It is certainly a decent game, but is not representative of true side-scrollers. Since this seems to be a common issue with blind developers and blind gamers alike I thought what I'd do is write a document outlining what mainstream games are like, use some classic examples of 2d side-scrollers, 3d first-person shooters, and some 3d third-person shooters. Maybe do a chapter on arcade games and try and describe a few different examples of that genre. Especially, since most people have done the Space Invaders thing, but there is a lot more to arcade than Space Invader type games. I think if I write a document on explaining each kind of game in detail, explain what kinds of features are common to each, maybe audio game developers will be able to come away with some new ideas and be able to begin building more advanced audio games. Anyone interested in this idea? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A Proposal for Game Developers
Not only that but I believe Combat also offered a few different vehicles aside from tanks. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:54 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Proposal for Game Developers Hi Damien, Well, unfortunately I think that is the problem for most blind game developers. I hear audio game developers say that they can't think of any new games to create, because everything has been taken. However, I can think of several games that have never been tried in audio that should be fairly easy to recreate. For example, let's take the game Combat for the Atari 2600. As far as arcade games goes it was pretty simplistic, but could easily be converted into audio. Basically, in Combat you have two tanks on the screen. Each player takes a controller and the goal is to drive around the screen trying to destroy the opponent's tank. After the opponent tank gets hit so many times it blows up and you have to restart the game. Now, as I said this is a simple game that could easily be converted to audio. For starts we don't need a lot of sounds. Just some sounds for the player's tank and a different one for the opponent tank or tanks. For two-player mode we would add networked game play so that one or more players can join a game and attempt to destroy as many enemy tanks as possible. The player who survives the combat is the winner. If someone wants to take it a step further they could add different maps to the game for different types of environments like jungle, desert, arctic, etc. This would actually end up being better than the original arcade game because it wouldn't be hard to create new levels and different maps to play on that would offer different environments and challenges. Although, it would be a tank game it is totally different from GMA Tank Commander. Another simple game not done in audio is Chopper Command. Basically, you are a single chopper flying through the sky and enemy choppers will approach from the north, south, east, and west and will attempt to shoot you down. The object of the game is simply to shoot down all the enemy choppers in the sky. Its different from the Space Invader games because you have full 2d movement. You can fly forwards, backwards, turn left/right, hover in place, and enemies will attempt to attack from north, south, east, and west. I'm really surprised something this simple just has never been tried before in audio as its a relatively simple concept. That's basically my point of writing the article. I can remember several games I've played from the Atari, Colleco, Nintendo, Super Nintendo, etc that just haven't been tried before in audio. Its not that they are too complex to create, but blind developers just don't know about them to begin with. Just off the top of my head I wrote about two classic Atari games that have no equal in audio games, and I think it would help to start making blind gamers and developers aware of what is out there. Cheers! On 3/27/2012 4:04 AM, Damien Pendleton wrote: Hi Thomas, This would certainly be a good idea. I'm always struggling to come up with interesting storylines and action, purely because I'm sick of the kind of space invader clone that we are seeing more and more of and I don't really know of anything else that hasn't already been taken in audiogames. That's why it tends to take me so long to come out with a new title - most of my time is spent thinking. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A Proposal for Game Developers
It sort of goes back to the entitlement view a lot of blind people seem to have. They feel they're entitled to tings becase tey're blind and 100% accessiblity rigtout of the box for ever single game or gadget, while it would be nice, is an unreasonable demand. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 4:34 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Proposal for Game Developers Hi, Yeah, I know. I understand their desire to want everything 100% accessible out of the box, but that's just not realistic. However, with a little time and patients, which I don't think many blind gamers have, they can learn to play mainstream games on the PS 3 or XBox. the quality of the games we can play on the mainstream consoles is many many times better than most audio games. On 3/27/2012 3:11 PM, Clement Chou wrote: It definitely is quite said, not to mention some of the most frustrating times I've had with blind gamers. So many of them express interest in getting a ps3 or xbox and then find out that you need to work to get the games to work and ditch the idea. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Atari Combat
I have it actually. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: David Mehler Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 5:28 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Atari Combat Hi, Thanks for posting this. It brought back some good memories. I use to love combat. Thanks. Dave. On 3/27/12, Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net wrote: Hi Thomas, I copied this from the Combat wiki. This is the home version not the arcade one. Atari Combat Released 1977. Combat had color graphics and numerous gameplay variations. The 27 game modes featured a variety of different combat scenarios, including tanks, biplanes, and jet fighters. The tank games had interesting options such as bouncing munitions (Tank-Pong) and invisibility. The biplane and jet games also allowed for variation, such as multiple planes per player and an inventive game with a squadron of planes versus one giant bomber. The Tank game in Combat had the basis of two tanks controlled by players each moving around a playing field and shooting the other player until time ran out. The player with the higher score would win. There were various types of shots a player could have depending on which level they chose, including straight missiles, guided missiles, and Tank Pong in which the shots would bounce off the walls, with variations upon whether a direct hit could strike their opponent, or a strike required a billiard hit. There was also an Invisible Tank in which the players would be invisible except for a brief few seconds after firing, and Invisible Tank Pong option. Along with the play styles there were also mazes to choose from including an empty field, a simple maze and a complex maze. One notable (and perhaps unintentional) interaction that could be performed in the tank game consisted of bringing one tank up behind the opponent tank such that the cannon of the first was inserted into the rear cutout of the second. Once in this position, by rotating the first tank, a sprite collision could be triggered which would send the tanks into a wild jump, during which they usually would pass through obstacles, or leave the edge of the screen to enter on the other side. Another set of level choices in Combat were the Biplanes. Unlike the Tank version, this was played with three types of firing shots (straight-missile, guided missile, and machine guns). However, there were several different gameplay modes. Players had the option of fighting one on one, having a pair of Biplanes each that moved and fired in tandem, or have one player control three tandem Biplanes against one large Bomber. The Bomber's shot was an oversized projectile that otherwise behaved as a straight-missile. Instead of having mazes to fly through, there were two clouds in the middle of the stage that either player could fly into temporarily hiding them from view of the other player. Very similar to the Biplanes level, was the Jets option. In this mode, only straight missile and guided missiles were used. It still had the same map options and squadron options as the biplanes mode, with Jets flying singly, two-on-two, or three-on-three. Atari developed a sequel to the popular Combat scheduled for release in 1984, but was canceld. Atari finally officially released it on the Atari Flashback 2 dedicated console, in 2005. Combat 2 featured a more sophisticated version of the original's tank game, with Tanks requiring multiple hits to destroy, and Missile Bases with an outer barrier which took many hits to chip through but the appropriate tank could hide within, and the ability to launch a large homing missile at very slow intervals. The game's single action button fired the Tank's gun normally, but launched a missile if pressed while the tank was within the Missile Base. Destroying an opponent's Missile Base also eliminated all of their reserve Tanks. The game took place in a forest environment divided by a river that could be crossed by either of two bridges. In some modes, the tanks could move under the trees and in others, the tanks were forced to go around or shoot their way through solid barriers. Some mode allowed each player to detail the placement of trees or barriers prior to the battle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_(video_game) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update
Re: [Audyssey] A Proposal for Game Developers
I know. I ave a working Atari I got from my sister's x boyfriend and Combat was one of te games I got wit it. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 5:33 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Proposal for Game Developers Hi Bryan, Yes, it did. You could use tanks, planes, and jets. It was a very cool game for its time. Cheers! On 3/27/2012 5:22 PM, bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Not only that but I believe Combat also offered a few different vehicles aside from tanks. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
We've already established that not to be the issue. Smile. As for me I'm as stumped as the rest of you. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Michael Feir Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:11 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please The only thing that springs to mind immediately is that Jaws or another screen-reader might be interfering. If your friend can put the screen-reader to sleep or just unload it while he plays, that would likely do the trick. Just be certain that you make hotkeys that are easy to remember for loading the game once you quit the screen-reader. Most screen readers make a hotkey such as control-alt-n for loading NVDA as an example. Hope that helps. On 4/2/12, MamaPeach mamape...@charter.net wrote: What, that he deleted it? This problem was happening before he deleted that folder, plus there was absolutely nothing in the folder. -Original Message- From: Shiny protector Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 10:38 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please Maybe that might be the problem. - Original Message - From: MamaPeach mamape...@charter.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please Okay, he check to see what was in the Program Files 86 folder and it ended up being empty so he just deleted it. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 11:33 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please Hi, It might be a problem. By default Windows 7 comes with Program files, where 64-bit apps goes, and Program Files (x86), where 32-bit apps goes, and the other directory shouldn't exist. I recommend he check what was installed to Program Files (86), and then try and install them to the proper location. In 90% of the cases most apps should go in c:\Program Files (x86). On 4/1/2012 11:24 PM, MamaPeach wrote: Me either. It makes no sense. I noticed something when we were looking around on his machine which is weird to me because my machine doesn't show this. When I had him go into the C drive to find program files, he has three program files folders, one is just program files, one is program files 86 and the other is program files X86. I only have program files and program files X86. Why would his have three and would this matter in any way? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Michael Feir Volunteer at The Dam http://www.thedam.org 2011-- Owner of Silver Smiles Join and share the silver lining in your life. Group homepage: http://groups.google.com/group/silver-smiles 2010-- Twitter: mfeir Skype: michael-feir Author of Personal Power: How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People 2006-2008 http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2009/01/personal-power.html A Life of Word and Sound 2003-2007 http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2009/01/life-of-word-and-sound.html Creator and former editor of Audyssey
Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please
That's what she means. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Sid Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 6:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please hey, what do you mean by clicking on it? you should press enter then it might work! - Original Message - From: MamaPeach mamape...@charter.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please Yep, that is where I had him install them to. Here is what happened when he tries to play. He clicks on Kitchens Inc on his desktop. The game loads just fine. He is able to arrow through the different games. He lands on say Spanker. He is able to click on that. Now when he arrows through these options, start game, change voice, change volume, etc., he can't click on anything, not even exit. So he tries to get out of this, but with no luck. He can't hit escape or alt f4, it just seems to have locked up his machine. He has to reboot his machine in order to make it go away. On River Raiders, he can load the game, arrow through the menu options but he cannot click on anything. He can hit the escape key and the game shuts down just fine. Same thing on Top Speed 3. -Original Message- From: Jacob Kruger Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 1:33 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please The kitchenSink games need to be installed under program files (x86) since that's the sort of backward compatibility installation path for windows7 etc. HTH Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: MamaPeach mamape...@charter.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 5:24 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please Me either. It makes no sense. I noticed something when we were looking around on his machine which is weird to me because my machine doesn't show this. When I had him go into the C drive to find program files, he has three program files folders, one is just program files, one is program files 86 and the other is program files X86. I only have program files and program files X86. Why would his have three and would this matter in any way? -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 11:20 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help, Please Hi, Ouch! That blows my theory out of the water. Apparently Michael had the same thought. I haven't a clue what to try next. On 4/1/2012 11:17 PM, MamaPeach wrote: He actually unloads Jaws all together so it isn't even running when he tries to play these games. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] Game Help
If that was the issue I don't think he'd even be able to hear the menu options. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Phil Vlasak Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 6:53 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Help Hi MamaPeach, Can your friend play any games? Did he try Shades of Doom? It could be that his SAPI voice is not set correctly to play Jim's games. Does he use Microsoft Anna? Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] narator is hmmm?
I'm surprised FS didn't try to sue Apple over Voice Over. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Trouble Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 6:09 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] narator is hmmm? They did try and Microsoft let them know just who is boss in software. Nothing like being slapped by a billion dollar company! They couldn't do anything about it anyway or NVDA would have to go also. At 12:38 AM 4/4/2012, you wrote: To be honest trouble, its my view that fs and others, no especially fs would sue ms for taking their market if they actually made narator more than the crap that it is and always must be. In fact rumor has it that when they decided to do that in win2k fs did just that though its only a rumour. It doesn't help when other big and bad companies want to keep us spending 3000 pluss on their so called product. At 08:13 p.m. 3/04/2012 -0400, you wrote: FYI, have a listen, -Forwarded Message- From: John J Herzog [mailto:johnjher...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 1:12 AM Subject: windows 8 narrator, provides hype and not hope Hello everyone, I just completed a podcast explaining how narrator works in the new windows 8. Here is the link, and below are my opinions. I urge you to share this with every blind person you know, before our time to change things for the newest windows has passed. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15813782/windows%208%20narrator%20demo.mp3 Ok, now here are my thoughts. Long story short, Narrator is incredibly disappointing, and yet Microsoft is emphatically stating how great the upcoming accessibility will be on their developer blog. I am sending this podcast to all of you with the hopes that you will have ideas on how we can encourage blind consumers to pressure Microsoft to do better. It is clear to me that Microsoft is interested in nothing more than positive publicity for helping everybody out, yet does not want to put in the effort to give the blind a truly usable screen reader. Louis, narrator is no better in the consumer preview than it was in the developer version of windows released last September. Microsoft claims that over 10 changes were made from the first preview of windows to the current beta. And yet nothing was done for accessibility in that time. If we do not voice our disappointment as a community, then the final version of windows will likely not contain further accessibility improvements. To Marlaina and everybody else, you need to give this a listen to understand what Microsoft claims they are doing versus what they are actually doing. Scott, I know you were with me when I produced this tonight. However, I cannot find the link needed to submit this to the blind cool tech web site. Maybe one of you can get this posted to serotalk? If not, then I hope you all will share this with every other blind person you know. I normally don't get upset when things won't work as advertised. However, Microsoft really should know better than to produce such a flawed access solution. When better screen readers can be found in free operating systems such as Linux, there is a definite problem that needs to be addressed. And when they market accessibility, they really should have a product that stands up to the claim that it makes windows an inclusive operating system for everybody. I don't mean to rant, but give this a listen and let me know what you think. Thank you, John --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] blastbay competition games link
You can find them on the Blastbay Competition page. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: joseph weakland Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 11:10 AM To: audyssey games list Subject: [Audyssey] blastbay competition games link can someone post the link to check the titles submitted for voting and download? i accidentally lost it --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] blastbay competition games link
It's part of the BGT section. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: joseph weakland Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 11:35 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blastbay competition games link was on blastbay site earlier and coupldn't find page link - Original Message - From: bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blastbay competition games link You can find them on the Blastbay Competition page. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: joseph weakland Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 11:10 AM To: audyssey games list Subject: [Audyssey] blastbay competition games link can someone post the link to check the titles submitted for voting and download? i accidentally lost it --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] blastbay competition games link
Maybe Aprone didn't have BGT Light? Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Phil Vlasak Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 12:18 PM To: Philip Bennefall ; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blastbay competition games link Hi Phillip, I noticed that one of the games is in bgt format, obsessiveCompulsive.bgt source code form, requiring your users to install BGT on their machines in order to play the game. While the other two are in executable format. Is there a reason that the obsessiveCompulsive was not made into an executable game too? Phil - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blastbay competition games link Hi Joseph, The direct link is: http://www.blastbay.com/bgt_competition.php Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: joseph weakland josephweakl...@att.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blastbay competition games link was on blastbay site earlier and coupldn't find page link - Original Message - From: bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blastbay competition games link You can find them on the Blastbay Competition page. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: joseph weakland Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 11:10 AM To: audyssey games list Subject: [Audyssey] blastbay competition games link can someone post the link to check the titles submitted for voting and download? i accidentally lost it --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4914 - Release Date: 04/04/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Perilous hearts?
Trust me, I think if Philip had decided to scrap PH we'd hear about it. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Jess Varnell Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 12:39 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Perilous hearts? Hey Phillip. Do you still plan to finish Perilous Hearts? Just curious because I beat the demo and I would definitely buy the game. Thanks. jess --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] USA Games News
It'll be out when it's ready. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: william lomas Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 3:45 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games News this is all well and good tom but when will the new MOTA be out? we heard it be out for years now if it iwll support mac go for it, :) On 30 Mar 2012, at 04:27, Thomas Ward wrote: USA Games News Mar. 29, 2012 Introduction Hello, gamers. Welcome to another edition of the USA Games News. As it has been quite a while since we've written one of these news letters and there have been several questions as to the fate of Mysteries of the Ancients over the last few months we only thought it was fair to bring you up to speed as to what we are doing and what you can expect from us in the future. However, it must be said up front that Mysteries of the Ancients is only one of several products currently in development. While we are continuing work on Mysteries of the Ancients, which has recently been renamed for reasons explained later in this news letter, we are also moving forward with a few other projects we've wanted to develop for a long time, but have been delayed time after time by Mysteries of the Ancients. So without further introduction here is the news. Ark of Hope Over the last month we have been developing a new game called Tomb Hunter: The Ark of Hope. This game is very similar to Mysteries of the Ancients, but has an all new storyline, new levels, and of course several updates that did not make it into the final beta of Mysteries of the Ancients. In this revised version of the game world re noun archeologist, Dr. Angela Carter, travels to Greece in search of Pandora's Box. Legend has it that when Pandora opened the box she let out all the evil and suffering in the world and closed the box trapping hope inside. Now, Dr Angela Carter is in search of Pandora's Box and intends to open it. However, her quest will not be an easy one. She must explore 12 Erie underground tombs filled with deadly traps including: fire pits, sharp metal spikes, falling rocks, deep chasms, rolling boulders, pits filled with boiling lava, and more. She must fight or flee several unworldly creatures such as: sword wielding skeletons, undead zombie warriors, flying harpies, and mighty centaurs. Along the way she will pick up and collect gold coins, ancient reed torches, precious jewels, and pieces of a long lost scroll that will lead her to Pandora's Box. As I said earlier many of the game play elements will be similar to Mysteries of the Ancients, but there will be differences as well. We've been updating some sounds, music, as well as redesigning all 12 levels from scratch. In addition to those changes we've been adding more traps, expanding the levels, and have been adding some extra features as well. So stay tuned for news as this project develops. Open G3D For the last couple of months we've been working on a project we feel will greatly aid audio game developers called Open G3D. We've actually been working on the project for a couple of years, but were unable to move forward with the project do to technical details. What we wanted was a game engine that met a number of criteria that were difficult to meet, and it took quite a lot of time and research to come up with a workable solution. In short, we wanted an engine that was easy to develop, an engine that was easy to use, and would work on Mac, Linux, Windows, and perhaps other platforms as well. Needless to say meeting this criteria was difficult to do because there is a lot of technical considerations involved in cross-platform game development in addition to the fact we wanted to create a user friendly experience for everyone. For example, the Genesis Engine that we use to develop Mysteries of the Ancients, Raceway, etc is written in C++. While C++ is arguably one of the best languages for professional game development, is considered to be the industry standard, it was never intended to be a language for beginners and therefore isn't very easy to work with. We wanted to eliminate this issue by using an off the shelf language that has a history of being simple and straight forward while not sacrificing the power of a full blown programming language like C++. At the same time we wanted to be able to design a build once run anywhere type engine so we could produce games for non-Windows platforms. As someone who does not regularly use Windows, preferring to use Linux instead, we are well aware of the fact that the desire for more games for Mac OS and Linux is growing. Unfortunately, since most of the accessible games and game development tools are designed for Windows those of us who choose to use Linux, Mac OS, or some other alternative
Re: [Audyssey] Help with Airik the Cleric please.
My advice is to try and contact Breakerbox directly and ask them. I believe te address is supp...@breakerboxgames.com. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: michael barnes Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:32 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Help with Airik the Cleric please. Hey, can someone please give me some help with Airik the Cleric? I want to buy the game but when I went to the site I couldn't find a place to be able to purchase the game. So I was wondering if the game is not being sold at this time, and if so when will it be selling again? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] LWorks
I had the same doubts about the IPhone, but after having and using an IPod Touch for six months before getting an IPhone I managed to get a ead start on learning to use the system. Now I've had my IPhone for almost two years and I could never go back. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Damien Pendleton Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:53 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Thomas, Well, if there are going to be games for the mobile market, I'd love to see some for Nokia devices running Simbian. More and more games are coming out for IOS devices and it'd be nice to see some for devices that are more accessible. Sure, Apple try and do the voiceover app, but when I tried an IPhone it was pointless and useless since the interface was purely all touch screen. How other blind people manage with it is beyond me and goes straight over my head. I tried it for two weeks before I got impatient with it so I went back to the lovely button operated Nokia and Talks setup again. I'd support Simbian myself, but looks like it's a trek down C++ lane, which doesn't sound appealing. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Damien, That's hard to say. For one thing there are developers who write iOS games etc on a contract basis and its possible Liam is simply hiring someone to develop the games for him. In a case like that he can keep producing games for LWorks without actively developing games himself. Of course, if he is developing the games himself or hiring the job out to a third-party developer he has a personal interest in supporting iOS devices and has decided to get out of the PC market. As someone who also tends to spend more and more time on mobile devices I can see why that is a much more appealing target than writing games for his desktop or laptop at home. :D On 4/21/2012 8:19 AM, Damien Pendleton wrote: Hey, If LWorks is making IOS games, does that mean that there's a chance he may come back to us loyal Windows users? Cheers. Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] LWorks
I think you're missing the point though. Touch screens are cheaper to make and qite frankl last longer since eventually buttons will give out. My laptop for instance is missing te Tab key. Besides, now tat it's been proven that touch screens CAN be made accessible I can see a big leap forward in terms of our technology. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Damien Pendleton Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:25 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Dark, If I were to go into my deepest thoughts about touch screen, I'd have to ban myself for profanity. Trust it to say, I hate them with a passion and think that adding voiceover to a touch screen device is just another corrupt twisted pro sighted business way of conning the law and getting away with discrimination. The fact that so many VI people have found a way to conquer that is rather impressive to me, and if that's the case, then so be it. But I think it's rather unnecessary to have to do that when the business itself should make more of an effort. Just because they don't know we exist, or choose to believe we don't exist, doesn't make us go away. And if companies continue to design things in their own eye happy way, in another twenty or thirty years it's probably unlikely we'd be able to use anything in the mainstream market and we'll be right back to square one with specially designed excessively expensive products and the like. That's only my opinion, I know tons of you won't agree, but this debate goes slightly away from games so I don't want this to turn into a full blown argument as to which is the best operating system to work with. That's me off my soapbox now. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks I must admit I'm planning on an Iphone myself when my laptop busts, since these days I just need something portable, and there are more and more really awsom sounding games for it. I understand there will be a learning curve, but actually I will probably use games to help me with that, for instance playing text games to learn about screen navigation, the same way that playing online web games got me familiar with site navigation. Of course, I've not tried one yet, so I might be jumping to conclusions, but from the sound of it touch screens are the way to go, and I'm intreagued by the idea of one that works with screen reading. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks
Precisely. I could never go back to a push button phone, particularly not in view of the fact that I'd have to pay extra for te screen reader or download a free and, to be qite frank, less satisfactory alternative. As far as games go I haven't yet found any games for mobile devices that really interested me so that's not an issue. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:39 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks It's a learning curve for sure, but I've managed it. Think of the touch screen like operating a PC. The first time you touch something, it is highlighted. Double tap on the screen and it is activated. Touching different areas of the screen once will not activate them, it's like arrowing to what you want on a PC. Other gestures which you use are triple tapping quickly, swiping with 1 through 4 fingers up or down, left or right. Once you get used to doing it, it's OK. You can also highlight, continue holding and tap elsewhere. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Damien Pendleton dam...@blunderfield.plus.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Thomas, Well, if there are going to be games for the mobile market, I'd love to see some for Nokia devices running Simbian. More and more games are coming out for IOS devices and it'd be nice to see some for devices that are more accessible. Sure, Apple try and do the voiceover app, but when I tried an IPhone it was pointless and useless since the interface was purely all touch screen. How other blind people manage with it is beyond me and goes straight over my head. I tried it for two weeks before I got impatient with it so I went back to the lovely button operated Nokia and Talks setup again. I'd support Simbian myself, but looks like it's a trek down C++ lane, which doesn't sound appealing. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Damien, That's hard to say. For one thing there are developers who write iOS games etc on a contract basis and its possible Liam is simply hiring someone to develop the games for him. In a case like that he can keep producing games for LWorks without actively developing games himself. Of course, if he is developing the games himself or hiring the job out to a third-party developer he has a personal interest in supporting iOS devices and has decided to get out of the PC market. As someone who also tends to spend more and more time on mobile devices I can see why that is a much more appealing target than writing games for his desktop or laptop at home. :D On 4/21/2012 8:19 AM, Damien Pendleton wrote: Hey, If LWorks is making IOS games, does that mean that there's a chance he may come back to us loyal Windows users? Cheers. Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] LWorks
I wasn't impressed with the Adroid. But I've had my IPhone for nearly two years and my IPod Touch for even longer and neither of their touch screens sows any signs of giving out. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Desiree Oudinot Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 12:22 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Damien, Join the club! I also tried an IPhone and hated it. While I did eventually get to the point where I could dial a number within a reasonable amount of time (with a lot of trial and error, and it still wasn't as fast as dialing a number with buttons, since you have to tap, make sure it's the number you want, double tap, repeat), the deal breaker for me was when I tried to set up my voicemail. That's usually a simple enough process that takes 2 minutes at most. With an IPhone, not so much. First, finding the blasted icon took about 5 minutes. Then, I recorded my message, groped around on the screen some more for the save button, and...it refused to save! I think I messed around with that for about half an hour before I finally gave up and took it back to the store. I'm sorry, but learning curve or no learning curve, a simple task like setting up voicemail should not take anywhere near half an hour to accomplish. As for buttons wearing out faster than touch screens, I have to disagree. I have a friend who has an Android. He's had it for less than 6 months, and he tells me that the touch screen is becoming less and less responsive. It's to the point now where he's probably going to have to buy another one, although he said if he's going to have to keep replacing it every 6 months, he might as well not bother and go back to a normal phone with buttons. My friend is someone who always takes good care of his stuff too so I would be highly skeptical that he did anything to cause it. On the other hand, I've had very basic phones, phones that did nothing but call and text, and I had one for 5 years, another for 3, and my current phone, the Pantech Breeze, which has some accessibility built in (though admittedly not as much as an IPhone or Droid), is still going strong after nearly a year. None of them actually broke. I just retired them when I wanted something new. So I would definitely have to disagree with this notion that touch screens are as immortal as some people think they are. On 4/21/12, bpeterson2...@cableone.net bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I think you're missing the point though. Touch screens are cheaper to make and qite frankl last longer since eventually buttons will give out. My laptop for instance is missing te Tab key. Besides, now tat it's been proven that touch screens CAN be made accessible I can see a big leap forward in terms of our technology. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Damien Pendleton Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:25 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Dark, If I were to go into my deepest thoughts about touch screen, I'd have to ban myself for profanity. Trust it to say, I hate them with a passion and think that adding voiceover to a touch screen device is just another corrupt twisted pro sighted business way of conning the law and getting away with discrimination. The fact that so many VI people have found a way to conquer that is rather impressive to me, and if that's the case, then so be it. But I think it's rather unnecessary to have to do that when the business itself should make more of an effort. Just because they don't know we exist, or choose to believe we don't exist, doesn't make us go away. And if companies continue to design things in their own eye happy way, in another twenty or thirty years it's probably unlikely we'd be able to use anything in the mainstream market and we'll be right back to square one with specially designed excessively expensive products and the like. That's only my opinion, I know tons of you won't agree, but this debate goes slightly away from games so I don't want this to turn into a full blown argument as to which is the best operating system to work with. That's me off my soapbox now. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks I must admit I'm planning on an Iphone myself when my laptop busts, since these days I just need something portable, and there are more and more really awsom sounding games for it. I understand there will be a learning curve, but actually I will probably use games to help me with that, for instance playing text games to learn about screen navigation, the same way that playing online web games got me familiar with site navigation. Of course, I've not tried one yet, so I might be jumping to conclusions, but from the sound
Re: [Audyssey] LWorks
The dragging and letting go to type I couldn't get the hang of personally. But what I don't understand is how attempting to add accessibility to a touch screen device could qualify as trying to con the law. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: dan cook Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 1:05 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks also, you don't have to double tap, as you can drag your finger around the screen and let go to type therefore when dialing a number, if you know where the five is for example, just press and let go. also the buttons arn't that close together, so even though it takes a while to get used to, there are ways to deal with the harder parts of the system. voice controled games? now that i'd love to see. On 4/21/12, bpeterson2...@cableone.net bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I wasn't impressed with the Adroid. But I've had my IPhone for nearly two years and my IPod Touch for even longer and neither of their touch screens sows any signs of giving out. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Desiree Oudinot Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 12:22 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Damien, Join the club! I also tried an IPhone and hated it. While I did eventually get to the point where I could dial a number within a reasonable amount of time (with a lot of trial and error, and it still wasn't as fast as dialing a number with buttons, since you have to tap, make sure it's the number you want, double tap, repeat), the deal breaker for me was when I tried to set up my voicemail. That's usually a simple enough process that takes 2 minutes at most. With an IPhone, not so much. First, finding the blasted icon took about 5 minutes. Then, I recorded my message, groped around on the screen some more for the save button, and...it refused to save! I think I messed around with that for about half an hour before I finally gave up and took it back to the store. I'm sorry, but learning curve or no learning curve, a simple task like setting up voicemail should not take anywhere near half an hour to accomplish. As for buttons wearing out faster than touch screens, I have to disagree. I have a friend who has an Android. He's had it for less than 6 months, and he tells me that the touch screen is becoming less and less responsive. It's to the point now where he's probably going to have to buy another one, although he said if he's going to have to keep replacing it every 6 months, he might as well not bother and go back to a normal phone with buttons. My friend is someone who always takes good care of his stuff too so I would be highly skeptical that he did anything to cause it. On the other hand, I've had very basic phones, phones that did nothing but call and text, and I had one for 5 years, another for 3, and my current phone, the Pantech Breeze, which has some accessibility built in (though admittedly not as much as an IPhone or Droid), is still going strong after nearly a year. None of them actually broke. I just retired them when I wanted something new. So I would definitely have to disagree with this notion that touch screens are as immortal as some people think they are. On 4/21/12, bpeterson2...@cableone.net bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I think you're missing the point though. Touch screens are cheaper to make and qite frankl last longer since eventually buttons will give out. My laptop for instance is missing te Tab key. Besides, now tat it's been proven that touch screens CAN be made accessible I can see a big leap forward in terms of our technology. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Damien Pendleton Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:25 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Dark, If I were to go into my deepest thoughts about touch screen, I'd have to ban myself for profanity. Trust it to say, I hate them with a passion and think that adding voiceover to a touch screen device is just another corrupt twisted pro sighted business way of conning the law and getting away with discrimination. The fact that so many VI people have found a way to conquer that is rather impressive to me, and if that's the case, then so be it. But I think it's rather unnecessary to have to do that when the business itself should make more of an effort. Just because they don't know we exist, or choose to believe we don't exist, doesn't make us go away. And if companies continue to design things in their own eye happy way, in another twenty or thirty years it's probably unlikely we'd be able to use anything in the mainstream market and we'll be right back to square one with specially designed excessively expensive products and the like. That's only my opinion, I know tons of you won't agree, but this debate
Re: [Audyssey] LWorks
Dirty? Wow. I certainly don't see it as such. After all, if they hadn't changed how the screen worked we would be constantly activating things by accident anytime we so much as touched the screen. And I certainly don't see it as conning the law, otherwise all they would have done was developed something like Microsoft Narrator or just told us tough luck. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Damien Pendleton Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 1:38 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Brian, The thing is, they're only accessible because we've had to use dirty workarounds to access things that sighted people can access quicker than we can even use a computer. They can see which part of the screen they are touching, they can see how to do all the moves right, so they've got no need to worry. They seem to have it all handed to them on a plate where we have to crawl in the dirt to get access to what we need. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks I think you're missing the point though. Touch screens are cheaper to make and qite frankl last longer since eventually buttons will give out. My laptop for instance is missing te Tab key. Besides, now tat it's been proven that touch screens CAN be made accessible I can see a big leap forward in terms of our technology. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Damien Pendleton Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:25 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Dark, If I were to go into my deepest thoughts about touch screen, I'd have to ban myself for profanity. Trust it to say, I hate them with a passion and think that adding voiceover to a touch screen device is just another corrupt twisted pro sighted business way of conning the law and getting away with discrimination. The fact that so many VI people have found a way to conquer that is rather impressive to me, and if that's the case, then so be it. But I think it's rather unnecessary to have to do that when the business itself should make more of an effort. Just because they don't know we exist, or choose to believe we don't exist, doesn't make us go away. And if companies continue to design things in their own eye happy way, in another twenty or thirty years it's probably unlikely we'd be able to use anything in the mainstream market and we'll be right back to square one with specially designed excessively expensive products and the like. That's only my opinion, I know tons of you won't agree, but this debate goes slightly away from games so I don't want this to turn into a full blown argument as to which is the best operating system to work with. That's me off my soapbox now. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks I must admit I'm planning on an Iphone myself when my laptop busts, since these days I just need something portable, and there are more and more really awsom sounding games for it. I understand there will be a learning curve, but actually I will probably use games to help me with that, for instance playing text games to learn about screen navigation, the same way that playing online web games got me familiar with site navigation. Of course, I've not tried one yet, so I might be jumping to conclusions, but from the sound of it touch screens are the way to go, and I'm intreagued by the idea of one that works with screen reading. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or
Re: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks
That's where you get a bluetooth keyboard. And there are plenty that are of good quality and yet inexpensive. Or you do what you said ad stick to a device that works for you. But accusing apple of conning the law by adding accessibility to a touch screen device is illogical for reasons I mention in another message. Tey made an effort and a good one at that. They were, to my knowledge, the only company (mainstream at least), to even consider how to make a touch screen accessible let alone actually do it. This could solve a lot of problems for us, not the least being those little touch screen ATM things you see at checkout counters in stores when you pay with a debit card. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Damien Pendleton Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 1:38 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks Hi Charles, But how on earth do you know all this to start with? It's like you don't just go on a PC for the first time and know how to do everything. That's why I struggle so much with operating systems other than Windows, and even specifically XP or below. I tried Linux and wanted to throw it out the window. I tried Mac and felt like calling it a muck because I couldn't get it to do what I wanted. I can't get to grips with Vista or 7 because of their new interfaces, likely 8 is even worse for it. As for the touch screen stuff, some of those moves are news to me. Even the so-called basic ones like single and double tapping are hard to do, because, for me especially, my other fingers get in the way for a start, and then there's the fact that I end up tapping the wrong bit for the second tap because my hands are often unsteady, hence the reason it takes me so long to access things. I know, a lot of you think it's just a lack of patience, and maybe it is, but that's because I'm used to 17 years of accessing a computer at lightning speed. For example, I can quite comfortably go into run and type a command line about as quickly as it would take to access an item on a jam packed desktop. For example, if you have to go to the desktop and press s five times for Super Liam, depending of course on how quick you are and how well you are at judging when you're in the right place, I've most likely used Run, and loaded and retrieved my emails a second before the game starts. So to get an IPhone and take five minutes to access an app where on a PC it takes me a few seconds at most, or to dial a phone number when I can dial it in three seconds on my Nokia, is extremely annoying. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 6:39 PM Subject: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks It's a learning curve for sure, but I've managed it. Think of the touch screen like operating a PC. The first time you touch something, it is highlighted. Double tap on the screen and it is activated. Touching different areas of the screen once will not activate them, it's like arrowing to what you want on a PC. Other gestures which you use are triple tapping quickly, swiping with 1 through 4 fingers up or down, left or right. Once you get used to doing it, it's OK. You can also highlight, continue holding and tap elsewhere. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Damien Pendleton dam...@blunderfield.plus.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Thomas, Well, if there are going to be games for the mobile market, I'd love to see some for Nokia devices running Simbian. More and more games are coming out for IOS devices and it'd be nice to see some for devices that are more accessible. Sure, Apple try and do the voiceover app, but when I tried an IPhone it was pointless and useless since the interface was purely all touch screen. How other blind people manage with it is beyond me and goes straight over my head. I tried it for two weeks before I got impatient with it so I went back to the lovely button operated Nokia and Talks setup again. I'd support Simbian myself, but looks like it's a trek down C++ lane, which doesn't sound appealing. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Damien, That's hard to say. For one thing there are developers who write iOS games etc on a contract basis and its possible Liam is simply hiring someone to develop the games for him. In a case like that he can keep producing games for LWorks without actively developing games himself. Of course, if he is developing the games himself or hiring the job out
Re: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks
Agreed. And if good games are developed for it then so much the better. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 1:56 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks I learned it through listening to podcasts and a book from www.nbp.org that takes you through learning to use the iPhone step by step. When I was employed by the state of Oklahoma, they provide their employees with cell phones, and they are iPhones. I figured, Well, other blind employees for the state are successfully using them, so I'll give it a try. Through asking, and being shown by, other blind employees, I caught on to the concepts. Then, it was just a matter of time, patience, and perseverance. Now, I don't want to be without my iPhone. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Damien Pendleton dam...@blunderfield.plus.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks Hi Charles, But how on earth do you know all this to start with? It's like you don't just go on a PC for the first time and know how to do everything. That's why I struggle so much with operating systems other than Windows, and even specifically XP or below. I tried Linux and wanted to throw it out the window. I tried Mac and felt like calling it a muck because I couldn't get it to do what I wanted. I can't get to grips with Vista or 7 because of their new interfaces, likely 8 is even worse for it. As for the touch screen stuff, some of those moves are news to me. Even the so-called basic ones like single and double tapping are hard to do, because, for me especially, my other fingers get in the way for a start, and then there's the fact that I end up tapping the wrong bit for the second tap because my hands are often unsteady, hence the reason it takes me so long to access things. I know, a lot of you think it's just a lack of patience, and maybe it is, but that's because I'm used to 17 years of accessing a computer at lightning speed. For example, I can quite comfortably go into run and type a command line about as quickly as it would take to access an item on a jam packed desktop. For example, if you have to go to the desktop and press s five times for Super Liam, depending of course on how quick you are and how well you are at judging when you're in the right place, I've most likely used Run, and loaded and retrieved my emails a second before the game starts. So to get an IPhone and take five minutes to access an app where on a PC it takes me a few seconds at most, or to dial a phone number when I can dial it in three seconds on my Nokia, is extremely annoying. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 6:39 PM Subject: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks It's a learning curve for sure, but I've managed it. Think of the touch screen like operating a PC. The first time you touch something, it is highlighted. Double tap on the screen and it is activated. Touching different areas of the screen once will not activate them, it's like arrowing to what you want on a PC. Other gestures which you use are triple tapping quickly, swiping with 1 through 4 fingers up or down, left or right. Once you get used to doing it, it's OK. You can also highlight, continue holding and tap elsewhere. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Damien Pendleton dam...@blunderfield.plus.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Thomas, Well, if there are going to be games for the mobile market, I'd love to see some for Nokia devices running Simbian. More and more games are coming out for IOS devices and it'd be nice to see some for devices that are more accessible. Sure, Apple try and do the voiceover app, but when I tried an IPhone it was pointless and useless since the interface was purely all touch screen. How other blind people manage with it is beyond me and goes straight over my head. I tried it for two weeks before I got impatient with it so I went back to the lovely button operated Nokia and Talks setup again. I'd support Simbian myself, but looks like it's a trek down C++ lane, which doesn't sound appealing. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Damien, That's hard to say. For one thing there are developers who write iOS games etc on a
Re: [Audyssey] audio Archery for IOS
I can see where that would be a problem. I myself haven't held or fired a bow in at least fifteen years, although I'd love to get back into it. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:05 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] audio Archery for IOS Same here. I shot archery for 3 years with no sighted assistance. Couldn't shoot outdoors because the sun's light overpowered the light I was aiming at. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Ian McNamara ianandri...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] audio Archery for IOS WIll be looking forward to this game. I like Archery so will enjoy this. Ian McNamara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Who are you replying to? Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Mike Maslo Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:09 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Wow an example of the thinking of some blind people's Sent from my iPhone On Apr 21, 2012, at 3:02 PM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Not so. The built-in screen reader tells you what you're highlighting. Your thinking would be like saying that a computer isn't accessible because we have to use a keyboard rather than the quick way that sighted people can access stuff using the mouse. They can see what is on the screen and use the mouse to click on it. We have to use a screen reader and keyboard. Just because we have to use a different method to accomplish the same thing doesn't mean that we can't do it. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Damien Pendleton dam...@blunderfield.plus.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Brian, The thing is, they're only accessible because we've had to use dirty workarounds to access things that sighted people can access quicker than we can even use a computer. They can see which part of the screen they are touching, they can see how to do all the moves right, so they've got no need to worry. They seem to have it all handed to them on a plate where we have to crawl in the dirt to get access to what we need. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks I think you're missing the point though. Touch screens are cheaper to make and qite frankl last longer since eventually buttons will give out. My laptop for instance is missing te Tab key. Besides, now tat it's been proven that touch screens CAN be made accessible I can see a big leap forward in terms of our technology. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Damien Pendleton Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:25 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Dark, If I were to go into my deepest thoughts about touch screen, I'd have to ban myself for profanity. Trust it to say, I hate them with a passion and think that adding voiceover to a touch screen device is just another corrupt twisted pro sighted business way of conning the law and getting away with discrimination. The fact that so many VI people have found a way to conquer that is rather impressive to me, and if that's the case, then so be it. But I think it's rather unnecessary to have to do that when the business itself should make more of an effort. Just because they don't know we exist, or choose to believe we don't exist, doesn't make us go away. And if companies continue to design things in their own eye happy way, in another twenty or thirty years it's probably unlikely we'd be able to use anything in the mainstream market and we'll be right back to square one with specially designed excessively expensive products and the like. That's only my opinion, I know tons of you won't agree, but this debate goes slightly away from games so I don't want this to turn into a full blown argument as to which is the best operating system to work with. That's me off my soapbox now. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks I must admit I'm planning on an Iphone myself when my laptop busts, since these days I just need something portable, and there are more and more really awsom sounding games for it. I understand there will be a learning curve, but actually I will probably use games to help me with that, for instance playing text games to learn about screen navigation, the same way that playing online web games got me familiar with site navigation. Of course, I've not tried one yet, so I might be jumping to conclusions, but from the sound of it touch screens are the way to go, and I'm intreagued by the idea of one that works with screen reading. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list,
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Because it's been my experience that buttons eventually give out. I've had that happen several times. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Damien Pendleton Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:14 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Brian, Well I feel they've as good as done that, otherwise they would have given us solid ground to work on. Yes, you could argue that the delay helps us not to touch things accidentally, but why have that there in the first place when you can have buttons that are separated, easy to find, and easy to know what you are activating? Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Dirty? Wow. I certainly don't see it as such. After all, if they hadn't changed how the screen worked we would be constantly activating things by accident anytime we so much as touched the screen. And I certainly don't see it as conning the law, otherwise all they would have done was developed something like Microsoft Narrator or just told us tough luck. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Damien Pendleton Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 1:38 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Brian, The thing is, they're only accessible because we've had to use dirty workarounds to access things that sighted people can access quicker than we can even use a computer. They can see which part of the screen they are touching, they can see how to do all the moves right, so they've got no need to worry. They seem to have it all handed to them on a plate where we have to crawl in the dirt to get access to what we need. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks I think you're missing the point though. Touch screens are cheaper to make and qite frankl last longer since eventually buttons will give out. My laptop for instance is missing te Tab key. Besides, now tat it's been proven that touch screens CAN be made accessible I can see a big leap forward in terms of our technology. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Damien Pendleton Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:25 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Dark, If I were to go into my deepest thoughts about touch screen, I'd have to ban myself for profanity. Trust it to say, I hate them with a passion and think that adding voiceover to a touch screen device is just another corrupt twisted pro sighted business way of conning the law and getting away with discrimination. The fact that so many VI people have found a way to conquer that is rather impressive to me, and if that's the case, then so be it. But I think it's rather unnecessary to have to do that when the business itself should make more of an effort. Just because they don't know we exist, or choose to believe we don't exist, doesn't make us go away. And if companies continue to design things in their own eye happy way, in another twenty or thirty years it's probably unlikely we'd be able to use anything in the mainstream market and we'll be right back to square one with specially designed excessively expensive products and the like. That's only my opinion, I know tons of you won't agree, but this debate goes slightly away from games so I don't want this to turn into a full blown argument as to which is the best operating system to work with. That's me off my soapbox now. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks I must admit I'm planning on an Iphone myself when my laptop busts, since these days I just need something portable, and there are more and more really awsom sounding games for it. I understand there will be a learning curve, but actually I will probably use games to help me with that, for instance playing text games to learn about screen navigation, the same way that playing online web games got me familiar with site navigation. Of course, I've not tried one yet, so I might be jumping to conclusions, but from the sound of it touch screens are the way to go, and I'm intreagued by the idea of one that works with screen reading. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org.
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Agreed. Besides, unless I'm much mistaken there are protective cases for the IPhone that turn it into a button device for those who need them. Nor are they that expensive. All Liam and other game devs are doing by turning to the IOS platform is trying to turn audio gaming into a multiplatform rather than a Windows only market. As unlikely as it may be I hope for the sake of the naysayers out there that touch screens don't eventually supplant keyboards as the coming thing, otherwise gaming will be the least of the activities they'll be locked out of. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Michael Taboada Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:16 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi, This kind of defeats the point of a touch screen. The point of a touch screen is to not need buttons, and apple's done, in my opinion, an amazing job of making it accessible. If you wanted them to have buttons just because blind people can't, if only just slightly, use a touch screen as well as the sighted, then they'd have to make a totally separate model just for blind people, which would get us back to square one with separate devices. Hth, -Michael. -Original Message- From: Damien Pendleton Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 3:14 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Brian, Well I feel they've as good as done that, otherwise they would have given us solid ground to work on. Yes, you could argue that the delay helps us not to touch things accidentally, but why have that there in the first place when you can have buttons that are separated, easy to find, and easy to know what you are activating? Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Dirty? Wow. I certainly don't see it as such. After all, if they hadn't changed how the screen worked we would be constantly activating things by accident anytime we so much as touched the screen. And I certainly don't see it as conning the law, otherwise all they would have done was developed something like Microsoft Narrator or just told us tough luck. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Damien Pendleton Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 1:38 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Brian, The thing is, they're only accessible because we've had to use dirty workarounds to access things that sighted people can access quicker than we can even use a computer. They can see which part of the screen they are touching, they can see how to do all the moves right, so they've got no need to worry. They seem to have it all handed to them on a plate where we have to crawl in the dirt to get access to what we need. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks I think you're missing the point though. Touch screens are cheaper to make and qite frankl last longer since eventually buttons will give out. My laptop for instance is missing te Tab key. Besides, now tat it's been proven that touch screens CAN be made accessible I can see a big leap forward in terms of our technology. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Damien Pendleton Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:25 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Dark, If I were to go into my deepest thoughts about touch screen, I'd have to ban myself for profanity. Trust it to say, I hate them with a passion and think that adding voiceover to a touch screen device is just another corrupt twisted pro sighted business way of conning the law and getting away with discrimination. The fact that so many VI people have found a way to conquer that is rather impressive to me, and if that's the case, then so be it. But I think it's rather unnecessary to have to do that when the business itself should make more of an effort. Just because they don't know we exist, or choose to believe we don't exist, doesn't make us go away. And if companies continue to design things in their own eye happy way, in another twenty or thirty years it's probably unlikely we'd be able to use anything in the mainstream market and we'll be right back to square one with specially designed excessively expensive products and the like. That's only my opinion, I know tons of you won't agree, but this debate goes slightly away from games so I don't want this to turn into a full blown argument as to which is the best operating system to work with. That's me off my soapbox now. Regards, Damien. - Original Message -
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So basically you're saying that developers should forget developing for IOS and focus only on Windows? Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Damien Pendleton Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:23 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Charles, Yes, I would agree with that, but with one difference. It can be just as quick to use a keyboard as it can a mouse. Though in some ways I would agree with your analogy as well. When it comes to sites that require use of the mouse. Sites that are developed recently are classic examples. Requiring you to hover the mouse on a link to activate it? Where does that find room for keyboard users? But again, we're digressing heavily here, although I could say exactly the same for most games. If I wanted to play, oh I dunno, let's say Who Wants To Be A Millionaire for want of a better title, I couldn't just go out and get the PC version because the screenreader can't read it to me, and again, it requires a mouse. But at least with Windows the keyboard is available to us, is just as quick if not quicker than using a mouse, and we have people, albeit less of them these days, who are willing to make accessible games for Windows. The only difficulty, if not impossibility, to consider with audiogames, is obtaining the copyrights to make a fully featured version of another game. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Not so. The built-in screen reader tells you what you're highlighting. Your thinking would be like saying that a computer isn't accessible because we have to use a keyboard rather than the quick way that sighted people can access stuff using the mouse. They can see what is on the screen and use the mouse to click on it. We have to use a screen reader and keyboard. Just because we have to use a different method to accomplish the same thing doesn't mean that we can't do it. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Damien Pendleton dam...@blunderfield.plus.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Brian, The thing is, they're only accessible because we've had to use dirty workarounds to access things that sighted people can access quicker than we can even use a computer. They can see which part of the screen they are touching, they can see how to do all the moves right, so they've got no need to worry. They seem to have it all handed to them on a plate where we have to crawl in the dirt to get access to what we need. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks I think you're missing the point though. Touch screens are cheaper to make and qite frankl last longer since eventually buttons will give out. My laptop for instance is missing te Tab key. Besides, now tat it's been proven that touch screens CAN be made accessible I can see a big leap forward in terms of our technology. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Damien Pendleton Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:25 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Dark, If I were to go into my deepest thoughts about touch screen, I'd have to ban myself for profanity. Trust it to say, I hate them with a passion and think that adding voiceover to a touch screen device is just another corrupt twisted pro sighted business way of conning the law and getting away with discrimination. The fact that so many VI people have found a way to conquer that is rather impressive to me, and if that's the case, then so be it. But I think it's rather unnecessary to have to do that when the business itself should make more of an effort. Just because they don't know we exist, or choose to believe we don't exist, doesn't make us go away. And if companies continue to design things in their own eye happy way, in another twenty or thirty years it's probably unlikely we'd be able to use anything in the mainstream market and we'll be right back to square one with specially designed excessively expensive products and the like. That's only my opinion, I know tons of you won't agree, but this debate goes slightly away from games so I don't want this to turn into a full blown argument as to which is the best operating system to work with. That's me off my soapbox now. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks I
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It's a game developed for the IOS platform. Never played it personally. Of course I don't even think you can buy it outside the UK, at least you couldn't when it first came out. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Paulette Vickery Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:41 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Dan, What is the Night Jar? Paulette -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dan cook Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:44 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks completely agreed Brian. at first i thought me? use an iphone? never. however i've had this one since august 2011 minus a couple months due to a problem with the phone and i don't know how i'd ever go back now. its just so simple in ways i cant really describe. back on topic, I believe that ios will be a great place for accessible gaming, look at the nightjar for example and that's just a start. imagine where we could be in a couple of years? On 4/21/12, bpeterson2...@cableone.net bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I had the same doubts about the IPhone, but after having and using an IPod Touch for six months before getting an IPhone I managed to get a ead start on learning to use the system. Now I've had my IPhone for almost two years and I could never go back. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Damien Pendleton Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:53 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Thomas, Well, if there are going to be games for the mobile market, I'd love to see some for Nokia devices running Simbian. More and more games are coming out for IOS devices and it'd be nice to see some for devices that are more accessible. Sure, Apple try and do the voiceover app, but when I tried an IPhone it was pointless and useless since the interface was purely all touch screen. How other blind people manage with it is beyond me and goes straight over my head. I tried it for two weeks before I got impatient with it so I went back to the lovely button operated Nokia and Talks setup again. I'd support Simbian myself, but looks like it's a trek down C++ lane, which doesn't sound appealing. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Damien, That's hard to say. For one thing there are developers who write iOS games etc on a contract basis and its possible Liam is simply hiring someone to develop the games for him. In a case like that he can keep producing games for LWorks without actively developing games himself. Of course, if he is developing the games himself or hiring the job out to a third-party developer he has a personal interest in supporting iOS devices and has decided to get out of the PC market. As someone who also tends to spend more and more time on mobile devices I can see why that is a much more appealing target than writing games for his desktop or laptop at home. :D On 4/21/2012 8:19 AM, Damien Pendleton wrote: Hey, If LWorks is making IOS games, does that mean that there's a chance he may come back to us loyal Windows users? Cheers. Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send
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I'd say that the fact that Apple attempted to develop a way to make touch screens accessible is a big score in their favor, not an attempt to con the law. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Damien Pendleton Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:49 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Brian, Oh no, not at all. In fact, if Apple did business properly I may have also moved on to IOS. I'm saying it's Apple's fault. Those who want to use IOS and develop for IOS, I haven't a problem with. In fact, as I already previously stated, I quite admire people who can adapt to such change quickly. No. I'm simply sharing my experiences with IOS products and giving my opinions on the equality side of things and on how I think things ought to be for the good of everybody, not just us. After all, there are some sighted people who are finding it equally hard to find a device that suits them because they also find the touch screen method hard. People in the older generation especially. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks So basically you're saying that developers should forget developing for IOS and focus only on Windows? Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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This is only the first attempt. I don't doubt that in the future they'll be able to be made even more accessible than they are now. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Damien Pendleton Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 3:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Brian, What I'm trying to say is, the very nature of a touch screen device makes it seem rather inaccessible, no matter how many attempts and tweaks you make at it. It'd be like giving a computer user a mouse, a screenreader, but no keyboard. The fact is, blind people cannot see the screen, so it would take them way longer than should be necessary to access things that could be accessed in seconds. As for the button-style cases, again. Good plan, if it weren't for the fact that the screen was constantly changing, and therefore you're still tapping, or pressing, for longer than necessary, trying to find what you need. There are only two buttons on a Simbian based Nokia at least, that change on a regular basis. Those are your two soft keys, and talks always announces them to you before you even press them. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks I'd say that the fact that Apple attempted to develop a way to make touch screens accessible is a big score in their favor, not an attempt to con the law. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] bgt understanding problem
Another excellent place is the BGT General forum on blastbay.com itself. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Ryan Strunk Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 10:29 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bgt understanding problem Brandon, The tutorial really does do a fantastic job of starting you out. If that's still confusing, though, perhaps you can ask specific questions here? Ryan -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Peters Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 10:11 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] bgt understanding problem Hi. I have a problem unstanding bgt or otherwise known as the blastbay toolkit. I have been reading code from games by bgt, and reading the tutorials, but I can't seem to understand it. Can someone help me understand it from the very basics to the more advanced language? -- Thanks, Brandon --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] LWorks
I don't think he was actually talking to you. He may have just just replied to the wrong message. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:51 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Michael, i very much resent that statement that my post was feeling sorry for anyone. I was actually attempting to highlight exactly what you just said, blindness is a disability, and as such has inherent problems with access especially when considdering corporate motivation. This is however not something we can do anything about other than attempting to, --- -as I said, use what devices are there to the best of our ability and promote access. My position is one of realism, not of feeling sorry for anyone, indeed as someone who is currently doing research into the matter of disability and what precisely accessibility or assistance should mean, and making recommendations for improvements in those areas, i don't think I've ever felt sorry at all. In fact, that is part of my deffinition, that disability is a condition that every human will undergo to a greater or lesser extent at some point. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Mike Maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks I am so amazed when I read posts like this We are blind and without us getting our sight back we will never be as or on the same level However feeling sorry for yourself or complaining helps how --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks
Nice. LOL. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Paulette Vickery Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 9:02 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks I just got the money reader app this morning. It's really cool! You hold a bill up to the camera of the phone, hold it still for a few seconds and the phone says the denomination. Paulette -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 3:57 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks I learned it through listening to podcasts and a book from www.nbp.org that takes you through learning to use the iPhone step by step. When I was employed by the state of Oklahoma, they provide their employees with cell phones, and they are iPhones. I figured, Well, other blind employees for the state are successfully using them, so I'll give it a try. Through asking, and being shown by, other blind employees, I caught on to the concepts. Then, it was just a matter of time, patience, and perseverance. Now, I don't want to be without my iPhone. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Damien Pendleton dam...@blunderfield.plus.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks Hi Charles, But how on earth do you know all this to start with? It's like you don't just go on a PC for the first time and know how to do everything. That's why I struggle so much with operating systems other than Windows, and even specifically XP or below. I tried Linux and wanted to throw it out the window. I tried Mac and felt like calling it a muck because I couldn't get it to do what I wanted. I can't get to grips with Vista or 7 because of their new interfaces, likely 8 is even worse for it. As for the touch screen stuff, some of those moves are news to me. Even the so-called basic ones like single and double tapping are hard to do, because, for me especially, my other fingers get in the way for a start, and then there's the fact that I end up tapping the wrong bit for the second tap because my hands are often unsteady, hence the reason it takes me so long to access things. I know, a lot of you think it's just a lack of patience, and maybe it is, but that's because I'm used to 17 years of accessing a computer at lightning speed. For example, I can quite comfortably go into run and type a command line about as quickly as it would take to access an item on a jam packed desktop. For example, if you have to go to the desktop and press s five times for Super Liam, depending of course on how quick you are and how well you are at judging when you're in the right place, I've most likely used Run, and loaded and retrieved my emails a second before the game starts. So to get an IPhone and take five minutes to access an app where on a PC it takes me a few seconds at most, or to dial a phone number when I can dial it in three seconds on my Nokia, is extremely annoying. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 6:39 PM Subject: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks It's a learning curve for sure, but I've managed it. Think of the touch screen like operating a PC. The first time you touch something, it is highlighted. Double tap on the screen and it is activated. Touching different areas of the screen once will not activate them, it's like arrowing to what you want on a PC. Other gestures which you use are triple tapping quickly, swiping with 1 through 4 fingers up or down, left or right. Once you get used to doing it, it's OK. You can also highlight, continue holding and tap elsewhere. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Damien Pendleton dam...@blunderfield.plus.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Thomas, Well, if there are going to be games for the mobile market, I'd love to see some for Nokia devices running Simbian. More and more games are coming out for IOS devices and it'd be nice to see some for devices that are more accessible. Sure, Apple try and do the voiceover app, but when I tried an IPhone it was pointless and useless since the interface was purely all touch screen. How other blind people manage with it is beyond me and goes straight over my head. I tried it for two weeks before I got impatient with it so I went back to the lovely button operated Nokia and Talks setup again. I'd support Simbian myself, but looks like
Re: [Audyssey] Shades of Doom...what is GTC?
GTC is an abreviation for GMA Tank Commander, another game from GMA Games. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Keith S. Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 11:18 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Shades of Doom...what is GTC? Hi, what is GTC? I'm kind of new to the audio game world. I've played trivia games from Jim Kitchen, and the games from Babisoft, but other than that, I'm totally at a loss. Been a member of this group for a while. KEith Reach me at: Email: hea...@mchsi.com Skype: keith.steinbach1 - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shades of Doom...your thoughts? -- Hi, I'd say it is well worth the money! It's my favourite accessible shooter game, and has amazing replay value. There's also loads you can do with the cheat codes, and quite a few different ways to play the game. It also has a very good help system built into the game, just like Sarah and GTC. From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 4:14 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shades of Doom...your thoughts? Hi Keith, Definitely. Shades of Doom is one of my favorite accessible games. Its one of the first games to truly explore the first-person shooter format by cloning a game like Doom by ID software and making it available in an audio only format. Of course, don't take my word for it and play the demo yourself. That's the only way you'll know if its worth the $35 to you personally. Cheers! On 4/23/2012 10:27 AM, Keith S. wrote: Hi everyone. thanks for the pricing info on shades of doom. My next question, to those who have played it, is it worth the $35.00? Thanks Keith Reach me at: Email: hea...@mchsi.com Skype: keith.steinbach1 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - Most wanted features?
If you're willing to move slowly with it at first and fail a few times before you finally strike something that works then certainly. The key is not to go in expecting to develop games right away, but to learn the language. THe best way to do that is to try and make it do small things like play an intro sound or display a message on the screen. If you're willing to do that then yo could definitely not go wrong by tring BGT. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Paulette Vickery Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 12:56 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT - Most wanted features? Hi Tom, So, do you think that someone like me who doesn't know anything about game creation could create a game using this kit and purchasing the sounds, etc., that would be needed for the game? Paulette -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 11:38 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT - Most wanted features? Hi, BGT stands for Blastbay Game Toolkit. Its a game engine, a toolkit, developed by Philip Bennefall to help simplify the process of developing audio games for the blind. He wrote all the low level code for audio, networking, input, etc into BGT and then exposes that functionality through simple scripts that are easy to learn to program and compile without the complexity of learning a full blown programming language like C++. Cheers! On 4/23/2012 11:00 AM, Paulette Vickery wrote: Hi Philip, What is, BGT? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4341 - Release Date: 04/22/12 18:34:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft
Unfortunately we don't. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Paulette Vickery Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 1:02 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: [Audyssey] Bavisoft Hi all, Does anyone know if the game producer, Bavisoft, is still around? I have both of the games they did several years ago, Grizzly Gulch and Chillingham. I never have been able to really get around Chillingham. I haven't heard of the company in a long time. Have they done anything else? Paulette --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft
Problem is that the Bavisoft games are still being sold, even if not by Bavisoft. I saw them on www.comproom.co.uk. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Stephen Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 4:59 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft or torrent their games and spread the word around. make that bigger deal about it that it will force them to act. At 08:22 AM 4/24/2012, you wrote: They seem to be just a con now I'm thinking, the only way you'll get a response out of them is to threaten then with suing if you haven't reieived a product. Maybe they have lazy itus or have just fallen flat. -- From: dark d...@xgam.org Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:22 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft Bavisoft's site was still up, but nobody has heard from them in about five years. They haven't updated their games to work with post xp windows, indeed I've heard of several people who tried ordering from them and never recieved stuff. i even tried to phone them at one point, since they werent' answering my male (I did establish first that phoning new york from Britain wouldn't rupture my bank), but no reply there either. so for all intents and purposes they're a dead concern. Michael barns however did write a very good guide for chillingham, if you go to the chillingham entry on audiogames.net (use the dropdown on the front of the site), you'll find a link to where it is posted. that should get you through the game if your having trouble, though myself I actually found chillingham far too easy. all the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Sarah, the game
I like the music. But the synthe voices of the ghosts didn't sit right with me. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 2:12 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sarah, the game I think Sarah was the first audio game I tried. I almost didn't buy it, but I kept downloading, am and so glad I did. I love the surround sound option, very emmersive. Nicole Thompson-Andrews Pen name Mellissa Green Budding novelist Emerging poet Tweet me @greenNovelist - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sarah, the game Hi Paulette, Phil has a major update in the works for Sarah that will hopefully be out sometime this year, but the last update was released in 2009. So if you want to try the game download and install the main setup file, then download and install the patch. That will give you a couple of levels to try out. In my opinion it is by far one of my fave five games .However, if you aren't very experienced with audio games the game could be a bit daunting as it has a full 2d first-person perspective which some blind gamers have difficulty with at first. Cheers! On 4/27/2012 2:59 PM, Paulette Vickery wrote: Hi Phil, I am thinking about purchasing Sarah, but I am confused. It looks to me as if you haven't updated your page about the patch and the game since 2009. I could be wrong about that. Does the patch include all of the changes you describe, such as the potion kit, the moving of the kitchen door, 2 new spells and so forth? Does the patch have a price? Can I hear a demo? Thanks for your help. The game sounds absolutely wonderful. Paulette --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] All I want for Christmas is my 2 front teeth
More like the representation of one. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Paulette Vickery Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 4:42 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] All I want for Christmas is my 2 front teeth Thanks, Dark. Is the, D, an emoticon? Paulette -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 3:17 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] All I want for Christmas is my 2 front teeth Hi Paulette. :D, is an ascii symbol for a grin, and is one of the few text speak isms I frequently se to make my posts expressive. The extra I happened because my parents were visiting and I was attempting to prevent my mum cleaning everything in my flat that didn't stand still and write the mail at the same time, an odd habbit sinse she always tells me how clean it is to begin with, then proceeds to go nuts, :D. All the best, DArk. - Original Message - From: Paulette Vickery paule...@evickery.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] All I want for Christmas is my 2 front teeth Hi Dark, D. i? What does that mean? Paulette -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 2:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] All I want for Christmas is my 2 front teeth Hi Paulette. Stanley is indeed a mean old coot! :D. i What I usually do myself is keep one hand on eachh control key with the tips of my middle and index fingers on the keys, but the rest of my hand held up so that I can move either to the keyboard when required. I do agree that the game takes a little practice, but once you've got it it actually becomes easy, and it's actually the practice that makes the game fun and challenging. Beware the grue!¬ Dark. - Original Message - From: Paulette Vickery paule...@evickery.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 6:40 PM Subject: [Audyssey] All I want for Christmas is my 2 front teeth Hi all, Well I'm not doing well at all with Christmas Whoopass. I did get in a few punches, but it seemed that the more I lost the more I was unable to get in even 1 punch. I tried throwing the first punch. I tried keeping my fingers on both control keys and the space bar at once, so I could hit one, right after Old Man Stanley punched me. But often he would knock out my teeth with the first punch. That's not fair! The game is a lot of fun, though. Paulette --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4957 - Release Date: 04/25/12 18:34:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4957 - Release Date: 04/25/12 18:34:00
Re: [Audyssey] Sarah, the game
You just have to install it. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Paulette Vickery Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 4:44 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sarah, the game Hi Phil, When I download the patch and install it, after I purchase the game, will it incorporate itself into the game, or do I have to do something with the patch after I install it? Thanks. Paulette -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Phil Vlasak Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 3:19 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sarah, the game Hi Paulette, I last updated the Sarah game in 2009, but I am working on a full update that I hope to release sometime in the next few months. In the earlier update I did add a few spells and in the new update I added some more. In the original game the goal was just to get out of the castle, but in the update I am working on, there will be several goals. You can download and try out the current version that allows you to explore two floors of the castle free. The reason for the two downloads on the download site is that I decided not to update the full version as it would take over a week to do that and meanwhile I would have to update the full version anyway because of the new levels and files I'm adding to the game. The full current version is almost 300 MB so it should be downloaded and installed first. Then the patch should be downloaded and installed second to add the new spells and to fix some bugs. Phil - Original Message - From: Paulette Vickery paule...@evickery.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 2:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Sarah, the game Hi Phil, I am thinking about purchasing Sarah, but I am confused. It looks to me as if you haven't updated your page about the patch and the game since 2009. I could be wrong about that. Does the patch include all of the changes you describe, such as the potion kit, the moving of the kitchen door, 2 new spells and so forth? Does the patch have a price? Can I hear a demo? Thanks for your help. The game sounds absolutely wonderful. Paulette --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2411/4962 - Release Date: 04/27/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4957 - Release Date: 04/25/12 18:34:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Blastbay Studios competition results
If you can't find it it probably hasn't been posted yet. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Reinhard Stebner Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 4:12 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: [Audyssey] Blastbay Studios competition results I was just up on their website and was not able to locate the results of the game competition. Which games won? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What I love about entombed
Nope, you can't dismiss a character. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Keith Stormcloud Steinbach Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 3:44 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] What I love about entombed What I really love about entombed is that it allows a player to choose which skills to increase when you go up in levels. It's a lot like Diablo (for the sighted) in that fashion. And I like that you can choose a race and then a job, like in the paper and pencil dungeons and dragons type games. Right now I'm slugging though with a necromancer, who rased another necromancer, and my main character has a level 5 ice storm spell. Talk about putting on the hurt. One more question though. Is there a way to dismiss a character that joins your party? I've got a fairy trickster that really can't do anything but cast a few spells that I'm not finding that accomodating to my whims, if you will. I mean, I could just turn on him, but then I run the risk of dying and creating a new character and running into this guy again. Also, when you save a game, does the entombed program only save one game. meaning, if I crate another character to play with, and then save it, will it erase the one I had running before? Keith --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed...
Nope, you can't actually resurrect them. You can summon their bones if you have a Necromancer, but then you can't control themand any injuries they sustained before they died will still be present and can't be healed. If you have a druid you can Reincarnate them, but then they might come back as something else that's weaker than what they used to be. On the up side you can crontrol them. But you can only do that once. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Keith Stormcloud Steinbach Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 10:07 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed... Hey guys, 2 question about entombed. First, I have come across some items that have flaming or sky in the name. When I do an examination of the item, it says that it is related to that elemental force. Does this help if lets say, a weapon is flaming, meaning fire related, and an opponent is more effected by fire? Second question, one of my party members has been killed. Is there a way to ressurect that character? I know you can dump the body, or sell it off in Twilight Town, which I have found better than leaving a former party member in the dungeon, because they have a tendency to reanimate and kick my butt for leaving them down there. (smiles) Thanks Keith Proud user of Window Eyes 7.5.4.1 Reach me at: hea...@mchsi.com and on skype at: keith.steinbach1 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed...
I was thinking more along the lines of a traditional RPG. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:21 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed... Hi Bryan, Yes, it would be nice to bring characters fully back from the dead, but I also see Jason's logic here. If a character gets killed, IE stone dead, bringing them back from the dead should have penalties. Either they are a zombie or skeleton, with low intelligence, or they are reincarnated as a lesser creature. These are fair compromises to keep the game challenging. After all, in most fantasy books, games, and so on you can't just bring someone back to life without some sort of necromancer involved, and even then its not the same as being restored to real life. There are always consequences for that kind of magic. I think that's why I got turned off of Sryth. If you died in the course of a game it had no immediate or long lasting consequences. All you did was lose a life stone, and you could purchase as many of those as you wanted or needed to keep reviving your character. I like fantasy, but even that should have some limits. On 5/16/2012 5:53 PM, bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Personally I stil feel there needs to be a way to revive them outright, since in either Zombie or Skeleton cases you can't control them. And if you reincarnate them you could get them back as a Crypt Creep. And that's hardly worth the fact that you can at least control them since even a minor hit will probably kill them again. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed...
I still think he could have given us the option to fully revive characters while maintaining the level of challenge. even if said option was not in the form of a learnable spell. Maybe a potion that, while not necessarily extremely rare, could be less common as a droppable item and more expensive to purchase and only available from certain shops. Given how easy it can be to die sometimes I think it would cut down on some people's frustration. And if, as I said, these potions were able to be made available only from certain places and at a higher cost it might make it less easy to abuse it. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:05 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed... Hi Bryan. In that sense, as with the random dungeons, entombed is more like a roguelike, sinse most roguelikes don't even give you the option of being a zombi, heck, Angband (the only roguelike I've ever been able to play), has a game 100 floors long, can take weeks, then ooops, perminant death! Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed... I was thinking more along the lines of a traditional RPG. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:21 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed... Hi Bryan, Yes, it would be nice to bring characters fully back from the dead, but I also see Jason's logic here. If a character gets killed, IE stone dead, bringing them back from the dead should have penalties. Either they are a zombie or skeleton, with low intelligence, or they are reincarnated as a lesser creature. These are fair compromises to keep the game challenging. After all, in most fantasy books, games, and so on you can't just bring someone back to life without some sort of necromancer involved, and even then its not the same as being restored to real life. There are always consequences for that kind of magic. I think that's why I got turned off of Sryth. If you died in the course of a game it had no immediate or long lasting consequences. All you did was lose a life stone, and you could purchase as many of those as you wanted or needed to keep reviving your character. I like fantasy, but even that should have some limits. On 5/16/2012 5:53 PM, bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Personally I stil feel there needs to be a way to revive them outright, since in either Zombie or Skeleton cases you can't control them. And if you reincarnate them you could get them back as a Crypt Creep. And that's hardly worth the fact that you can at least control them since even a minor hit will probably kill them again. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the
Re: [Audyssey] Entombed health question, kind of confused
You don't actually have to pick up the missing body part, so long as it's nearby. I should know since that's happened a few times during my Entombed LP. As long as the enemy doesn't swallow the hand or whatever you're ok. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:23 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed health question, kind of confused Hi Keith, One reason that sometimes happens is if the character loses a hand, foot, or something else like that during combat. If that happens you have to retrieve the missing body part, and use a reattachment spell to restore the character to full health. Although, I think the game should tell you if that is the reason so I'm not exactly sure why it isn't giving you a list of her injuries. On 5/17/2012 9:49 AM, Keith Stormcloud Steinbach wrote: Well, I purchased the full game of entombed. Boy, was I missing out on a lot with the free version! Anyway, I started a game and have aquired 2 more characters besides my created character and his pet, Barky Von Schnauser. Anyway, one of the characters got injured during a battle and I rested the party. Everyone healed except the ratkin mage in my party. Her hit points have a max of 114, but only 110 healed. under that, it announces that she is slightly injured. So, I used a healing potion on her. Nothing happened. The extra 4 hit points are still missing. And when somone is injured, the game will announce what part of the body is injured. Nothing is read off for her. Any ideas of why this is happening? Thanks Keith Proud user of Window Eyes 7.5.4.1 Reach me at: hea...@mchsi.com and on skype at: keith.steinbach1 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed...
I meant without reloading. LOL. I already do that anytime a character gets killed. But on later floors it often takes forever to load or save a game. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Richard Sherman Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:07 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed... HI, He did. It is call reload. Your character gets killed, reload the game back to your last save or auto save. some times, reincarnated characters can be fun. Get a snake or spider and see what happens. Shermanator - Original Message - From: bpeterson2...@cableone.net Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 2:19 AM I still think he could have given us the option to fully revive characters while maintaining the level of challenge. even if said option was not in the form of a learnable spell. Maybe a potion that, while not necessarily extremely rare, could be less common as a droppable item and more expensive to purchase and only available from certain shops. Given how easy it can be to die sometimes I think it would cut down on some people's frustration. And if, as I said, these potions were able to be made available only from certain places and at a higher cost it might make it less easy to abuse it. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Entombed health question, kind of confused
The funny thing is that getting a leg bitten or lopped off doesn't really affect gameplay much, at least not beyond making it impossible for you to ever fully heal. You can still walk. LOL. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:16 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed health question, kind of confused Hi Bryan, Lol! Oh, I hate when that happens. The Drake is especially nasty about biting off, a hand or foot and then eating it. One time he ate an entire leg turning my character into a one-legged man in a butt kicking contest for real. :D Good thing I was only playing the demo at the time or I would have been up a proverbial creek as that character couldn't stand or walk much less go to level 8 and beyond. He would have been monster food for sure. On 5/17/2012 6:29 PM, bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: You don't actually have to pick up the missing body part, so long as it's nearby. I should know since that's happened a few times during my Entombed LP. As long as the enemy doesn't swallow the hand or whatever you're ok. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Entombed health question, kind of confused
I know it's unrealistic. Smile. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:03 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed health question, kind of confused Hi Bryan, Yeah, I know, but its totally unrealistic. If a person loses a leg they aren't going to be able to stand there and have an ax in one hand and a sword in the other as though he has two feet to stand on. At a minimum that character would need a cane or something to help prop him or her up. On 5/17/2012 7:30 PM, bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: The funny thing is that getting a leg bitten or lopped off doesn't really affect gameplay much, at least not beyond making it impossible for you to ever fully heal. You can still walk. LOL. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Entombed questions - spoilers
I did notice that the messages in the bazaar didn't seem to work. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Richard Sherman Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 4:30 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed questions - spoilers Keith wrote: begin quote. I purchased the full version of Entombed and noticed that when I get to Twilight Town, the bizarre is now accessible. I do not understand it though. It lists the objects I own, and have a certain number of something called trade coins. When I click on one object, it seems that internet explorer opens and I get an error message. Not sure what the Bizarre is and what it can do for me. end quote. The bazaar is a place where you can buy or sell armor or weapons, You purchase said items with trade coins. Trade coins only work in the bazaar. The general store uses gold coins, so don't get them confused. You have 10 slots in which to sell items. A good idea is to keep them as full as possible. Every now and then, when the bazaar gets full, Jason will clean it out of those items that have been for sale for a long time and give you the tc for them. You can only purchase those items found in the floor you are currently on, and above. So if you are on floor 5, you cannot get a item that was found on floor 6. So look back often, probably every floor just to find those items to get your characters even more buff. One note, the message option has never worked so don't even try it. Also, what version are you running? And does the option for details, continue or quit come up? If so, press alt C to continue. sometimes connecting to the bazaar might get a small hickup and come up with this dialog box. begin quote. Second, when I was first playing the free version, I had access to the human, ogre, elf, half and half elf races. Then, during one adventure, I found something called a Goblin card, after I killed a goblin mage. When I was killed, I started a new game, and I was given the option of making a goblin character. Does this apply to all other races in the game, like the knoll and the kobold? end quote. There are only 5 unlockable cards in the game. You found one that unlocked the goblin race. You can also purchase one from the twilight town bazaar to unlock another race. The 3 remaining cards unlock some really nice jobs. One card you will get after a specific battle, and the other 2 will be gotten in another fashion. That is for you to discover. begin quote. When in the Twilight general store, I sometimes come across scrolls with spells on them that are not available to the open jobs I have access to to start with. Namely, Spark, dark light (or something like that), mystify, etc. Are these spells associated with jobs that I have to find access to by playing the game though? end quote. No. All scrolls found or bought can be used by any character of yours you control when the time is appropriate. If out of battle, your primary character will cast the scroll. Some scrolls cannot be cast outside of combat. Some can be cast either in or out of combat. Keep in mind that the effectiveness of a scroll is determined by intelligence. The higher the intelligence, the greater the spell will work or last. There are currently 2 scrolls that do nothing because you cannot use them. They are blizzard and ray of destruction. So if you find them, sell them. And no need to buy them from any store you come across. begin quote. The first time I reached Twilight Town, after killing the wolves trying to get into the town, I gained access to some sort of orb from a dead guard. It does not come up after I was killed and started a new game. It says something about needing to be charged, and then it will teleport me back to town. Do I have to find the thing again? end quote. No. The orb is automatically yours when you kill the wolves. it will also not show up on any inventory list, it is just there. you use the orb to transport you back to twilight town from anywhere in the dungeon. when done in town, just press the f1 key again to put you back to the place you used the orb from. You cannot use the orb until it recharges, and the game will tell you that. Really comes in handy when you get to the lower floors instead of tromping back up multiple stairs and then back again. Many times I will use the orb to go to town after clearing a floor to sell off what I collected. Or just after getting to a new floor to go to town to se what new items the general store has for sale. Reminder, the general store only stocks items every 3 floors. So if you go in there after completing the 2nd floor, it will not stock new items until the 5th floor, 8th floor, 11th floor, and so on. But if you miss a floor, it will be 3 floors from there. Also, there is an entombed mailing list on yahoo groups you might want to join. Good people there with lots of info to help or share. If you don't want to join, I
Re: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed...
I don't know about sleep. Seems sort of pointless if the enemy always wakes up the instant you do something. It'd be more useful if there was a chance that they'd stay asleep for a few turns. And I've noticed that Curse doesn't always work all that well even if the enemy doesn't resist it. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:49 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed... rep tom, right now the best skills in entombed are things like sleep, curse, and chalm that have a good chance of stopping the enemy's attacking you while you finish them off, which is quite a shame for a game with such a very detailed combat system. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed... Hi Dark, HThat would make sense. I have had some human fighters with their armor skills maxed out, and I didn't find it all that useful a strategy for Entombed. Mainly because they didn't get to fight any more than a weaker character meaning all my weaker characters often get killed first leaving me with a well armored fighter to do the job at the end. When the entire purpose of building up his/her armor skill was to protect weaker characters. G On 5/18/2012 3:14 AM, dark wrote: Hi Tom. It also actually makes armour skills pretty pointless, sinse if your well armoured character will not be getting attacked anymore than your less armoured ones, what's the point in armour? you might as well expend the points in attack skills and hope to drop the enemy before he/she attacks you. One common suggestion made on the entombed list is to have a front/back rank system. Characters on the front are %75 likely to get hit, while characters on the back have a penalty to meelee attacks (so that's where you put your mages and archers), I really hope Jason will either add this option or do something similar in his next game. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Entombed bizarre
As for the Bazaar, you don't use gold, just trade coins. You can hear how many you have by checking Bazaar Statistics. As for shops, when it tells you you've entered one, press the apostrophe key to activate the shop menu. You'll then be told how much gold you're carrying. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Keith Stormcloud Steinbach Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 6:15 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed bizarre Is there any way to find out how much gold i am carryig in entombed when in the gernal store or the bizarre? And, on that note, in the dungeons, I sometimes enter a room through a door and it says something about a weapons emporium, kobold run or something like that. Is this important, or just some sort of landmark in the game. I've come across a couple of these in the dungeons. Keith Proud user of Window Eyes 7.5.4.1 Reach me at: hea...@mchsi.com and on skype at: keith.steinbach1 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Where to get the update for Entomb?
I think the latest version is still 1.02K. And there's a link to that patch on adiogames.net Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: michael barnes Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 12:20 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Where to get the update for Entomb? Hey, When I go to the Entomb homepage I don't see the new update. Can someone please give me the current update for the game? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed...
I just wouldn't pick a Fairy as your primary character's race since it's so easy for them to die. Besides, Fairies don't have Necro as an option. Guess it's too grizzly for their liking. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 5:07 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed... Hi Dark, Yeah, I know. It seems to me your better off picking a race and job with a lot of magic potential because you can do far mor damage with an iceblast, firebolt, etc than a fully trained fighter. The only time fighters are really good is if they are paired with a thief or assassin job so they can perform sneek attacks. Otherwise a necro can usually kill goblins and other creatures with a well directed iceblast to the head. Plus can do heavy damage to undead creatures if their skills are high enough. Then, add to that their ability to raise goblins, ogres, and other undead enemies I just find necros to be one of the best jobs to have. On 5/19/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: rep tom, right now the best skills in entombed are things like sleep, curse, and chalm that have a good chance of stopping the enemy's attacking you while you finish them off, which is quite a shame for a game with such a very detailed combat system. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed...
That's what I chose for my most recent game. She's an Elven Necromancer/healer. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 8:42 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2 question about entombed... Hi Bryan, Ah.No. I definitely wouldn't pick a Fairy for my primary character. I usually go for something like an Elf which isn't as strong s a human, but is adept at magical jobs. On 5/19/12, bpeterson2...@cableone.net bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I just wouldn't pick a Fairy as your primary character's race since it's so easy for them to die. Besides, Fairies don't have Necro as an option. Guess it's too grizzly for their liking. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Entombed, what is the point of the bizarre?!!
I think you replied to the wrong message. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: shaun everiss Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:06 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed, what is the point of the bizarre?!! 2.5 is the latest just now. However I think aprone said a couple days ago that the server will be going up and down when time permits as he is doing a hardware upgrade as well as other things. so hopefully we will get a bigger experience. At 05:38 a.m. 21/05/2012 -0500, you wrote: What is the current version number? I am running version 1.02 I believe. Keith do you know? Proud user of Window Eyes 7.5.4? Reach me at: hea...@mchsi.com and on skype at: keith.steinbach1 - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 4:53 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed, what is the point of the bizarre?!! Hi Keith, Unfortunately, I can't answer your question about the error message, but it sounds to me like there is a bug in the game dealing with the bizarre. For that I suggest asking Jason if he can shed some light on the error message. However, as far as difficulty goes it does tend to get more and more difficult each level you reach requiring stronger and more powerful weapons and armor. Plus given the random nature of the game I've found one time I will blitz through a level one game and end up getting pounded the next time. So there is no certainty of successfully getting through the same level the same way twice. On 5/21/2012 4:48 AM, Keith Stormcloud Steinbach wrote: Hi Entombed players, Okay, I know I've asked bout the bizarre in the Twilight Town, but it is really starting to get on my nerves. Every time I try to sell something, it tells me that I cannot place that item up for sale. Then, when I try to buy something, (I have no trade coins, an exchange rate would be nice to convert gold coins to trade coins, for a price of course, a merchant has to make a profit after all, right?). Anyway, I try to see if there are any items from a specific category, and I get that exception window that pops up and has the details button, a continue button, and a cancel button. If I click on details, it crasshes the game, and drops me to the desktop. If I click cancel, it does the same thing. If I click continue, it just brings me back to the bizarre window. If this interaction with the game requires me to connect to the internet, and I am patched into the internet with an ethernet cable, why am I getting this error, every time I try to use the bizarre? I'm figuring I should just ignore the bizarre, and try to tromp through the dungeon until the items in the general store change. But, it seems that the monsters are a lot more difficult than I remember them being on level 5. I am in massive need of hearling potions to hearl mangled limbs. Nothing is worse than trying to fight with two mangled hands. Keith Proud user of Window Eyes 7.5.4.1 Reach me at: hea...@mchsi.com and on skype at: keith.steinbach1 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] Anyone ever heard of a game called CastleQuest?
Wrong game Phil. Smile. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Phil Vlasak Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:57 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Anyone ever heard of a game called CastleQuest? Hi Folks, It was an abandoned game because the programmer that BSC hired decided to stop development. Audyssey Issue 41: second quarter, 2004 News From BSC Games: Greetings all, Here is what is going on over at BSC as of late. We are working on CastleQuest continuously. CastleQuest unveils a complete 3D adventure to VI gamers through the Kingdom of Nivora, home of King Tiras. Plenty of items, quests, and encounters will keep even the most avid players challenged and enthralled. In Castle Quest, a portal has been unveiled that leads to a 3D world unlike anything anyone has ever heard. Currently, we are taking voice actor auditions if you would be interested in auditioning to be a volunteer voice actor for cq. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Anyone ever heard of a game called CastleQuest?
That's not the same game. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Phil Vlasak Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 6:11 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Anyone ever heard of a game called CastleQuest? Here is the site from the way back machine: Castle Quest - Everyone Has a Destiny Welcome to the official web site of Castle Quest, a BSC Games production, a 3d adventure game coming to you the first or second quarter of 2004. A World Of Intrigue and Adventure Castle Quest unveils a complete 3D adventure to VI gamers through the Kingdom of Nivora, home of King Tiras. Plenty of items, quests, and encounters will keep even the most avid players challenged and enthralled. In Castle Quest, a portal has been unveiled that leads to a 3D world unlike anything anyone has ever heard. Players can quest in this extraordinary 3D discovery as they fight to bring justice back to Nivora and help King Tiras regain his rightful reign. Veteran players will face fresh challenges as they voyage through the various regions of Nivora, while novice players will enjoy scores of new and challenging quests along the way. Players will battle fiercely against the followers of Raamah, the evil knight who has overtaken parts of Nivora with his minions and allies. Raamah and his apprentices, battle knights, warriors, devilish creatures, thieves, and many other adversaries join efforts to try to gain control of Nivora. The fabled Dragon of Tagarma watches over the hidden treasure of Magog, the resource that King Tiras desperately needs in order to turn the tide against Raamah. Will you be a skilled enough player to help King Tiras regain control of Nivora? Features Here is a non-complete listing of some of the features of Castle Quest. Option to play as different classes such as Knight, Assassin, Ranger, and Monk An interactive kingdom, with many lands to explore and many items to gather Experienced based leveling Skills to acquire and develop throughout the adventure Equipment that you can loot, as well as purchase The ability to train in different weapons and items Quests to embark on and accomplish The Castle Quest Character When you start a character, you can choose what class you want to play as in the game. The design of the game is not finalized yet, but some classes you may find available upon release may include Knight, Assassin, Ranger, and Monk. Among the things that are affected by which class you pick will be your character's basic statistics. Examples include strength, dexterity, constitution, and intelligence. Strength affects how much you can carry, what kinds of armor and weapons you can use, and how hard you can hit with them. Dexterity effects how fast you learn weapon skills, you're ability to thwart incoming attacks, and how often you can swing a sword, throw a weapon, or fire a bow. Constitution affects how much of a beating you can take, and how long you can run or swing your sword without growing tired. Intelligence affects how quickly you learn certain types of skills, and how effectively you use them. In addition to various weapon and armor related skills, here are just a few of the other types of skills we have planned: Ability to move quietly in the shadows without being detected To feign death so aggressive creatures will leave you alone Track prey Make poison Sense and disarm traps Use certain kinds of special weapons Employ special attacks When will Castle Quest be released? Castle Quest is scheduled to be released in either the first or second quarter of 2004. The first release will not have multi-player capability, but we do have plans to release a multi-player expansion pack. Castle Quest will be one of the most revolutionary games to ever hit the VI market. You don't want to miss out on this game! To keep up to date on Castle Quest news and events, you'll want to stop back frequently to the Castle Quest web site where we will be updating everyone on the progress of the game. When Castle Quest is released, the Castle Quest community will be able to chat and mingle via the Castle Quest mailing list and perhaps a few other ways that are not yet finalized. However, while Castle Quest is in the development stage, we would like to invite everyone to submit your own ideas, suggestions, and comments about the game to us. We would love to hear from you. Although we can not promise to use any of the suggestions you send us, we will certainly read each one and keep them in mind. If you would like to drop us some of your ideas about Castle Quest, feel free to email us at supp...@bscgames.com. After the first of the year, we will be looking for beta testers who have lots of time on their hands and will want to quest for hours at a time in a 3d adventure. Is that you? Why wait? You just might be selected to test cq. Stop by and fill out our cq beta application. Castle Quest is a Bsc Games production. Castle Quest,
Re: [Audyssey] Entombed, what is the point of the bizarre?!!
Then I think Jason needs to update the installer or something. I downloaded and installed that file and it still said 1.02J. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Richard Sherman Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 3:12 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed, what is the point of the bizarre?!! Hi, The most current version of entombed is 1.05B, and can be downloaded from: http://www.blind-games.com/newentombed/EntombedSetup.exe The 1.02K version can be downloaded from the main site. it may say version I, but it really is K. Keith, what vbersion are you currently trying to run? And on what operating system? Knowing this might be of asistance to help you with these problems. Still having difficulties, be sure to contact Jason directly for assistance. Keith wrote: begin quote. Okay, I know I've asked bout the bizarre in the Twilight Town, but it is really starting to get on my nerves. Every time I try to sell something, it tells me that I cannot place that item up for sale. end quote. Are you getting any type of message with those items you cannot put up for sale? Such as magical properties are too large blah blah blah. If so, try to put the item on and take it off. For some reason items do this and putting on and taking it back off seems to fix it. Especially if it was previously worn by a skeleton. Begin quote. Then, when I try to buy something, (I have no trade coins, an exchange rate would be nice to convert gold coins to trade coins, for a price of course, a merchant has to make a profit after all, right?). end quote. Sorry, no conversion is necessary or warranted. Just keep putting up items that anyone would buy and you will soon have more tc than you need. it might take some time though. Magical items seem to sell better than others. But a really good weapon will sell fairly quickly. As long as it wasn't found on the floors below 20. Those items don't sell very well. Excellent and legendary weapons can be an exception to this. Find something really good to sell, save your game. Go to town and put it up for sale. then reload the game. You will have it up for sale and still have it to use. Of course this is if you even need such an item. And then wehn it sells, put it back up for sale to sell again. Sell really good items multiple times. begin quote. Anyway, I try to see if there are any items from a specific category, and I get that exception window that pops up and has the details button, a continue button, and a cancel button. If I click on details, it crasshes the game, and drops me to the desktop. If I click cancel, it does the same thing. If I click continue, it just brings me back to the bizarre window. end quote. Really strange. I occasionally get this, but not all the time. Just keep trying to continue and see if you get around this. Begin quote. If this interaction with the game requires me to connect to the internet, and I am patched into the internet with an ethernet cable, why am I getting this error, every time I try to use the bizarre? end quote. Yes, you must be connected to the internet to interact with twilight town. Why you are having this difficulty I am not sure of. begin quote. I'm figuring I should just ignore the bizarre, and try to tromp through the dungeon until the items in the general store change. But, it seems that the monsters are a lot more difficult than I remember them being on level 5. I am in massive need of hearling potions to hearl mangled limbs. Nothing is worse than trying to fight with two mangled hands. end quote. yep, nothing worse. Unless your character is magical then its not so bad. But avoiding town would not be a good idea. You get some needed potions and scrolls from the general store. And well needed armor and weapons from the bazaar. Good luck. If you need additional help, feel free to contact me off list. or don't forget about the entombed group on yahoo groups. Could really get some good advice and assistance there. Shermanator Richard Sherman squir...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news.
Whoa. Who were you talking to? Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Trouble Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 6:41 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Archery news. Get a life and quit wining! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy?
Not that I know of. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Alfredo Castaneda Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:49 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Hello all, I was wondering if there is such a thing out there as accessible jeopardy software or something along those lines. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy?
Copyright again unfortunately. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Alfredo Castaneda Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:43 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? You know, I think it would be neat to have one made. I have heard of numerous jeopardy programme, and I see no reason why there should not be one for the blind. I am familiar with Jim's trivia games though. Thanks for the information though! Alfredo --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy?
I actually did have a handheld Jeopardy game that used multiple choice. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:34 PM To: birdlover2...@hotmail.com ; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Hi, Well, I think I would have fun creating such a game. I've always loved Jeopardy, the game show, and I'm actually surprised I never thought about doing a computer version. Although, I do wonder what would be the best way to supply the correct question with the current answer. For example, suppose the game gives you an answer like, he was the first president of the United States. You would have to reply, who is George Washington? Given the poor spelling of people on this list having them type the correct question into the answer field could be problematic. If someone spelled Washington Worshington, yes I've seen people do it, the question would be write but spelled wrong. Therefore we'd have to use something like multiple choice. The problem I have with multiple choice is that if a person doesn't know the answer they can guess which generally is not a feature of Jeopardy. Therefore this second method might resolve the spelling issue, but would dumb the game down. Any thoughts? On 5/24/2012 10:43 PM, Alfredo Castaneda wrote: You know, I think it would be neat to have one made. I have heard of numerous jeopardy programme, and I see no reason why there should not be one for the blind. I am familiar with Jim's trivia games though. Thanks for the information though! Alfredo --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy?
Yeah. Not long back there was a guy who pronounced Wimbledon as Wimbleton and got penalized. My grandma just about had a stroke. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 6:57 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? I would say that an incorrect spelling would be an incorrect answer. On the TV show, a slip of the tongue is a wrong answer. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: birdlover2...@hotmail.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 12:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Hi, Well, I think I would have fun creating such a game. I've always loved Jeopardy, the game show, and I'm actually surprised I never thought about doing a computer version. Although, I do wonder what would be the best way to supply the correct question with the current answer. For example, suppose the game gives you an answer like, he was the first president of the United States. You would have to reply, who is George Washington? Given the poor spelling of people on this list having them type the correct question into the answer field could be problematic. If someone spelled Washington Worshington, yes I've seen people do it, the question would be write but spelled wrong. Therefore we'd have to use something like multiple choice. The problem I have with multiple choice is that if a person doesn't know the answer they can guess which generally is not a feature of Jeopardy. Therefore this second method might resolve the spelling issue, but would dumb the game down. Any thoughts? On 5/24/2012 10:43 PM, Alfredo Castaneda wrote: You know, I think it would be neat to have one made. I have heard of numerous jeopardy programme, and I see no reason why there should not be one for the blind. I am familiar with Jim's trivia games though. Thanks for the information though! Alfredo --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy?
Like I said, I had a handheld Jeopardy game that used multiple choice. It came with a book which is where the clues were. So the game would give ou the number of a clue to answer and you'd find that clue in the book. THen you'd push te little buttom that corresponded with te letter of your choice. I remember the nit had a cartridge in it, which would seem to hint that at the time it was developed one could have multiple sets of questions. But Multiple Choice would seem to me to be the only way to do it that wouldn't cause problems for people who can't spell. And people have been penalized in Final Jeopardy for incorrect spelling as well as for mispromnunciation in the regular game. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Jim Kitchen Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 8:28 AM To: Thomas Ward Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Hi Thomas, You make a very good point about spelling the answers in a Jeopardy game. And the multiple choice doesn't seem to be a real good solution either. My other problem with making a Jeopardy game is that I do not own a data base of questions and answers. That is what has been nice about people creating and sharing trivia files for my trivia game engine. BFN Jim Computers run on smoke. Yep, that's why that if you see all of the smoke coming out of your computer it ain't gonna run no more. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy?
What? It's not Alex? Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Ron Schamerhorn Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 10:12 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? I've got a version on cd, and while you do need to use the mouse in selecting the question, the answers are spoken by Johnny Gilbert and you just type in the answer. No need for a question form. It's probably about 15 years old now. On 25-May-2012 11:53 AM, bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Like I said, I had a handheld Jeopardy game that used multiple choice. It came with a book which is where the clues were. So the game would give ou the number of a clue to answer and you'd find that clue in the book. THen you'd push te little buttom that corresponded with te letter of your choice. I remember the nit had a cartridge in it, which would seem to hint that at the time it was developed one could have multiple sets of questions. But Multiple Choice would seem to me to be the only way to do it that wouldn't cause problems for people who can't spell. And people have been penalized in Final Jeopardy for incorrect spelling as well as for mispromnunciation in the regular game. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Jim Kitchen Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 8:28 AM To: Thomas Ward Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Hi Thomas, You make a very good point about spelling the answers in a Jeopardy game. And the multiple choice doesn't seem to be a real good solution either. My other problem with making a Jeopardy game is that I do not own a data base of questions and answers. That is what has been nice about people creating and sharing trivia files for my trivia game engine. BFN Jim Computers run on smoke. Yep, that's why that if you see all of the smoke coming out of your computer it ain't gonna run no more. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I'd say it was still challenging since you still had to guess the answer even though you had choices to pick from and it was A, B and C, plus a Pass option. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 8:23 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Hi Bryan, Really? Did you find it too easy to play, or did you think it was challenging enough using multiple choice. Also did it ask you to press 1, 2, or 3 or A, B, C? Cheers! On 5/25/2012 9:00 AM, bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I actually did have a handheld Jeopardy game that used multiple choice. Life, don't talk to me about life. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Aren't there six categories? Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 9:35 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Hi Dark, Well, I guess what sets Jeopardy apart from other quiz shows is that the rules are a bit different from your average quiz show. Instead of asking the contestants questions they are given an answer and they are suppose to supply the correct question. So its backwards from the normal quiz format. For example, I'll rephrase your own question and answer to show you exactly how it works. Answer: He was the Greek husband of helan of troi. Question: Who was menaleus? In a normal quiz show or a trivia game the question and answer would be reversed. This is certainly different, but I don't think it has anything to do with the shows popularity. Its just how the rules work. Something else that is unique about Jeopardy is when a round starts there are four categories selected at random, and the contestants can choose one of the categories that they wish to play plus state the amount of money they will be playing for. This helps a contestant play to his or her strengths, and if they get the question wrong may end up passing it on to another contestant who may or may not be well versed in that particular area. Here is an example of a typical round. Let's say you and I are on Jeopardy. Round 1 starts and the categories on the board are Music, Science, History, and Philosophy. Obviously my strength is world history so when its my turn I'll start with History. You are a student of Philosophy so would probably choose that category to start with. The other categories we might end up splitting between us depending on who's in the lead. When you give a correct question to an answer you win the amount of money listed on the board for that category and answer. In the second round you go to Double Jeopardy. In Double Jeopardy you win double the amount listed on the board for a particular answer. Select a category. Music for $400. This black American female singer was known as the Queen of Disco. Who was Donna Summer? In that case you would win $400 in the first round and #$800 in the Double Jeopardy round. I don't know of any quiz show besides Jeopardy where you can really double the cash or points earned in a certain round of the game. As a result the Double Jeopardy round is where a contestant can win big or lose big depending on if they do well or not. The final round, Final Jeopardy, is where the winner can take all. All three contestants bet an amount on the answer, and then are given a category and answer at random. If a contestant fails to give a question or gives the wrong question to the answer on the board he/she loses their bet, and I've seen some games where someone did well through the first two rounds and lost everything on that single round. So there is quite a lot of suspense going into Final Jeopardy because the person who wins the round often wins the game as well. The winner of the show will then be entered into a Jeopardy tournament where he or she will compete against other winners to determine who is the Jeopardy champion. So you may see the same contestant on the show multiple times until he or she is finally defeated by another contestant. Cheers! On 5/25/2012 10:23 AM, dark wrote: I know jeopardy is a really popular us quiz show, but when they attempted to port a version to England it never caught on at all, and I couldn't to be perfectly honest see the attraction, sinse mostly it just seemed to me a case of a normal quiz where you just had to insert the words what is before every answer. For instance: The Griek husband of helan of troi Who was menaleus I never really saw what was so different from just asking who was! the griek husband of Helan of troi myself, sinse the answers they gave were always answers to only one question it seemed, such as the capital of ireland and what is belfast So I'm afraid I never really saw the point of the quiz myself. Of course, the British version never took off, and isn't showing anymore, and might well have missed something about the Us version that makes it so popular, maybe something as simple as the hosts' personality (without the comedian bob holness, no remake of the blockbusters game show has ever been the same at all). Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the
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Then you have the Daily Double questions, where a single contestant gets a chance to answer that question and can risk any or all of their total up to that point. Some of those people were pretty ballsy I can tell you. The Jeopardy round has one Daily Double and DOuble eopardy hahs two. And for the record tere are usually six categories per round, not four. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 4:17 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Hi tom. I don't remember the money risking format, which probably explains why the british version never worked. I can see how the suspense and people betting would make a huge difference, after all that was why Who wants to be a millionare got to be so popular watching some greedy individual risk everything on one answer. As regards the question and answer format though, I'm afraid I'm still a little confused as to what makes such a difference? as I said, I never really saw how inserting who is or what is changed the format of things that much, sinse you'd still be looking for one peace of knolidge that hooked up with only one other peace of knolidge, and might as well be answering a question. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I'm pretty sure it did count as a wrong answer. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 8:14 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? I would not have a pass option, as it dumbs the game down and takes the risk factor totally out of the game, unless you lose the question's value if you pass, just as if you got the wrong answer. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Hi ryan, Sounds good. I definitely think I'll give that a try. Cheers! On 5/25/2012 11:16 PM, bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I'd say it was still challenging since you still had to guess the answer even though you had choices to pick from and it was A, B and C, plus a Pass option. Life, don't talk to me about life. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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And of course you have to have the right host. I couldn't imagine anyone other than Alex Trebek hosting Jeopardy. The same would be the case if they ever brought back the 80's show Rescue 911, which was hosted by William Shatner. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 10:06 AM To: birdlover2...@hotmail.com ; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? If you mean the united kingdom the answer is no. I remember an attempt to port the show to the uk in the mid 90's, but it didn't catch on well at all. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Alfredo Castaneda birdlover2...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Is it not so much enjoyed in the Kingdom? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Well here in the US Price is Right is hosted by Drew Kerry. Then there's Cash Cab hosted by Ben Bailly. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 11:18 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? That's true bryan. Prices right or play your cards right just wouldn't be the same without bruice forsythe, and blokbusters had bob holness, infact the phrase can I have a T please bob is still a british pop culture. Then of cours emore recently we've had anne robinson with weakest link, which even made it onto Doctor who, I was rather amused that a few years ago at a friends' birthday party when we played the weakest link game, it actually came with pre written taunts :d. Beware the Grue! dark. - Original Message - From: bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? And of course you have to have the right host. I couldn't imagine anyone other than Alex Trebek hosting Jeopardy. The same would be the case if they ever brought back the 80's show Rescue 911, which was hosted by William Shatner. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 10:06 AM To: birdlover2...@hotmail.com ; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? If you mean the united kingdom the answer is no. I remember an attempt to port the show to the uk in the mid 90's, but it didn't catch on well at all. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Alfredo Castaneda birdlover2...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Is it not so much enjoyed in the Kingdom? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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It actually first aired in 1989 Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 11:48 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Hi Bryan, FYI, I believe Rescue 911 was from the early 90;s not the 80's. However, your point is valid. Certain game shows and documentaries would not be the same without the original host. Jeopardy definitely would not be the same without Alex. On 5/26/2012 12:28 PM, bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: And of course you have to have the right host. I couldn't imagine anyone other than Alex Trebek hosting Jeopardy. The same would be the case if they ever brought back the 80's show Rescue 911, which was hosted by William Shatner. Life, don't talk to me about life. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I've seen clips of the Art Flemming version and didn't care for it. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 9:34 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Hi Charles, Ah, that is a bit before my time. I knew there had been someone before Alix started, but Alex has been the host for as long as I can remember. At least the last 30 years or so. So from my perspective Alex is the original host. :D On 5/27/2012 2:42 AM, Charles Rivard wrote: I think that Art Flemming is dead, but he was a good host of Jeopardy, and was the original. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I've surprised myself on more than one occasion while watching Jeopardy. I'll just guess something and then just about have a heart attack when no one gets it and I turn out to be right. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 9:52 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Hi Jim, Sure. Same here. There are certain categories on Jeopardy I don't know anything about as well. I have had some education in opera and classical music, but I certainly don't know enough about either to be really competent in either genre. I am only able to pick out the more popular or well known pieces when I hear them, but for the most part I'm pretty clueless. :D Anyway, as you said knowing the solution to a question or puzzle is pretty pointless. That's why I also haven't created any trivia engines, puzzle based games, etc. I just couldn't take any pleasure in playing a game where I knew most of the answers to begin with. Cheers! On 5/27/2012 6:31 AM, Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Thomas, Depending on the category I can answer every question as well. But due to lack of education or lack of interest there are categories that I would not know a single question. You know maybe like opera, classical music, Broadway shows, current movies or current pop culture. But that is also why I mostly write games with random elements rather than puzzles. I mean if I know the answers to the game, where would be the fun for me to play it? BFN --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy?
It ended in 1996 or so, then finally went off the air altogether in 2005 or so. Tere was apparently a pinball game based on it. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 10:00 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Hi Bryan, That sounds about right. I can remember watching the show round age 11 or 12 and of course it ran for four or five years before it went off TV. So 1989 sounds right to me. On 5/27/2012 8:49 AM, bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: It actually first aired in 1989 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy?
I'm not entirely sure. He just seemed a bit too...dramatic. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 10:02 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Why not? --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? I've seen clips of the Art Flemming version and didn't care for it. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 9:34 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Hi Charles, Ah, that is a bit before my time. I knew there had been someone before Alix started, but Alex has been the host for as long as I can remember. At least the last 30 years or so. So from my perspective Alex is the original host. :D On 5/27/2012 2:42 AM, Charles Rivard wrote: I think that Art Flemming is dead, but he was a good host of Jeopardy, and was the original. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy?
They could have had four categories to begin with for all I remember. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 12:11 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Hi Bryan, Yes, there are six categories. I must have had a brain fart when I said four. :D On 5/26/12, bpeterson2...@cableone.net bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Aren't there six categories? Life, don't talk to me about life. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Entombed dissappearing stariwells afterusingarmycheaton v 1.02K
You can only use the orb to take you back and forthh to town. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Richard Sherman Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 3:52 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed dissappearing stariwells afterusingarmycheaton v 1.02K HI Keith, Now that I know that. The only solution that comes to mind would be to note any doors, and the coordinates of them. If you leave that room or area, just note what directions you go to find your rescued character. The floor isn't that big so it shouldn't be too hard to find your way back. Or, is it possible to use your orb to take you to another floor? Possibly one that you haven't totally searched. Otherwise you just have to wander around and try to remember how to get to the stairway down. Good luck. Shermanator - Original Message - From: Keith Stormcloud Steinbach hea...@mchsi.com Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:32 AM When I hit the slash key it says this floor has been completely explored. Keith Proud user of Window Eyes 7.5.4.1 Reach me at: hea...@mchsi.com and on skype at: keith.steinbach1 - Original Message - From: Richard Sherman squir...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:24 AM HI, If you are already on the 2nd floor when you try to use the cheat, since the floor has changed the period and comma key won't work. But does the slash key tell you what unexplored spaces there are? If so, then use this to find the stairs. if you are coming up from town, and you stand in the stairway down, go to thru a door and come back into the room. Hopefully this should reset the period key to the stairway down. Good luck. shermanator --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Entombed mangled limb question
You actually can heal mangled limbs, but it may take several heal spells and the game may not always say when the limb was healed. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Keith Stormcloud Steinbach Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 10:20 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed mangled limb question Hi, I noticed that when I have a character get a limb mangled in battle, I can use a healing potion to fix the limb. But, if I run out of potions I am screwed. I did max out a healer's heal ability to level 5, but that seems to only heal character's health points, not repair a mangled limb. I know the difference between a mangled limb and a detached limb, as if the limb was cut or bitten off. I think this would be a good change for the game if Jason put either a new special ability for the healer that would repair mangled limbs, or associate that power with the heal ability, at level 5. Just my thoughts. Keith Proud user of Window Eyes 7.5.4.1 Reach me at: hea...@mchsi.com and on skype at: keith.steinbach1 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Entombed: can halfling thieves use long bows?
I wouldn't think so. Seems to me a longbow would be way too large a weapon for them seeing as they can't even use the tree branch you start with. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Keith Stormcloud Steinbach Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:45 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed: can halfling thieves use long bows? Can halfling rangers or theives use longbows? Proud user of Window Eyes 7.5.4.1 Reach me at: hea...@mchsi.com and on skype at: keith.steinbach1 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy?
Not only that but you can drop down into a negative score and if you do that and you don't manage to get back on the plus side before Final Jeopardy you can't participate in that round. Then I'm sure some of us remember eight years ago, how a man managed to remain champion for upwards of three months and won something in the neighborhood of three-million bucks. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:37 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Hi Dark, Ah, I see. Well, there are ways to wager your earnings on a single clue and end up losing it if you answer incorrectly. As Bryan mentioned a couple of days ago there are daily double questions where the person must make a wager before hearing the clue. If they answer correctly they will get double the amount of money they wagered. If they answer wrong they lose their wager. If they bet their entire earnings on that clue they'll essentially be starting with $0 which will likely put them in third place during Final Jeopardy. So if you want to know why the game is so popular that is one reason. Its certainly educational, certainly challenging, but but the betting wagering are risky moves that will make or break a player. There is know way of knowing who will win the show, because the guy who lead round x might wipe out in the next round by making a fatal mistake. The daily doubles and Final Jeopardy round are very suspenseful because you don't know if the contestant is going to win big or wipe out. Cheers! On 5/26/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi tom. I don't remember the money risking format, which probably explains why the british version never worked. I can see how the suspense and people betting would make a huge difference, after all that was why Who wants to be a millionare got to be so popular watching some greedy individual risk everything on one answer. As regards the question and answer format though, I'm afraid I'm still a little confused as to what makes such a difference? as I said, I never really saw how inserting who is or what is changed the format of things that much, sinse you'd still be looking for one peace of knolidge that hooked up with only one other peace of knolidge, and might as well be answering a question. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy?
Nope, you just don't go home with anything. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:07 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? If you get a negative score, do you have to pay it back to the jeopardy game? that would be amusing :d. I can however see how such wagering could make for a really interesting thing to watch, even if the answers thing is still a little confusing to me. Beware the grue! Dark. - O --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy?
What always cnfuses me is whether or not the second and tird place winners actually et to go home wit what they finished up with. I mean if the first place winer won, say 20 grand, but the other two still finished up with money. So let's say the second place contestant finished up with 14K and the third place with 7K. Do they not get to keep that money even though they didn't lose everyting? I know they say a thousand or two tousand depending on your place, but is that on top or instead of whatever you finished with after Final? Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:27 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Hi Bryan, I thought that the third place winner receives a minimum of $1,000 even if he or she ends up getting $0 or less in the actual game. On 5/31/12, bpeterson2...@cableone.net bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Nope, you just don't go home with anything. Life, don't talk to me about life. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy?
Yup. Six categories with five clues each. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:26 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Actually, on a daily double, they only win the amount they bet. The reason they call them daily doubles is that you do have the opportunity to double your total by betting all you have accumulated. During the first round, the dollar amounts on each category are, the last time I watched the show, which was quite some time ago, were $200, $400, $600, $800, and $1000. There is 1 daily double available. The contestants don't know where it is. In the second round, the amounts are doubled, and there are 2 daily doubles hidden. The final round is final Jeopardy, in which each contestant writes the amount of their winnings they choose to wager on the back of a card, then the clue is given, and they have 30 seconds to write the question on the front of that card. The winner is the contestant who has the highest total after the Final Jeopardy round. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Hi Dark, Ah, I see. Well, there are ways to wager your earnings on a single clue and end up losing it if you answer incorrectly. As Bryan mentioned a couple of days ago there are daily double questions where the person must make a wager before hearing the clue. If they answer correctly they will get double the amount of money they wagered. If they answer wrong they lose their wager. If they bet their entire earnings on that clue they'll essentially be starting with $0 which will likely put them in third place during Final Jeopardy. So if you want to know why the game is so popular that is one reason. Its certainly educational, certainly challenging, but but the betting wagering are risky moves that will make or break a player. There is know way of knowing who will win the show, because the guy who lead round x might wipe out in the next round by making a fatal mistake. The daily doubles and Final Jeopardy round are very suspenseful because you don't know if the contestant is going to win big or wipe out. Cheers! On 5/26/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi tom. I don't remember the money risking format, which probably explains why the british version never worked. I can see how the suspense and people betting would make a huge difference, after all that was why Who wants to be a millionare got to be so popular watching some greedy individual risk everything on one answer. As regards the question and answer format though, I'm afraid I'm still a little confused as to what makes such a difference? as I said, I never really saw how inserting who is or what is changed the format of things that much, sinse you'd still be looking for one peace of knolidge that hooked up with only one other peace of knolidge, and might as well be answering a question. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy?
I remember recently there was a lady from right here in Twin Falls on Jeopardy. She won about 8 grand. I do think it a bit unfair that a person would lose everyting just for not being te top finisher. I mean yeah if they bet everything on Final then of course. But as long as they had money left it would make sense for them to keep it. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:41 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? The only contestant who takes money home is the top finisher. The other two take consolation prizes home. I don't remember what they are, but they are nice prizes like a good stereo system or something. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! are! finished! - Original Message - From: bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? What always cnfuses me is whether or not the second and tird place winners actually et to go home wit what they finished up with. I mean if the first place winer won, say 20 grand, but the other two still finished up with money. So let's say the second place contestant finished up with 14K and the third place with 7K. Do they not get to keep that money even though they didn't lose everyting? I know they say a thousand or two tousand depending on your place, but is that on top or instead of whatever you finished with after Final? Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:27 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Hi Bryan, I thought that the third place winner receives a minimum of $1,000 even if he or she ends up getting $0 or less in the actual game. On 5/31/12, bpeterson2...@cableone.net bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Nope, you just don't go home with anything. Life, don't talk to me about life. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy?
I just remember that there was a lady on Jeopardy from right here in Twin Falls. I seem to remember she said something about paying off student loans, and I'm guessing that just a thousand bucks consolation wouldn't be enough for that. So either everyone gets to take their earnings home or there's a threshold that she passed. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:54 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Hi Bryan, Good question. I'm not sure. I would think they would get to take their earnings home with them, but I'd have to check the Jeopardy site for that kind of detail on how prize money is awarded. On 5/31/12, bpeterson2...@cableone.net bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: What always cnfuses me is whether or not the second and tird place winners actually et to go home wit what they finished up with. I mean if the first place winer won, say 20 grand, but the other two still finished up with money. So let's say the second place contestant finished up with 14K and the third place with 7K. Do they not get to keep that money even though they didn't lose everyting? I know they say a thousand or two tousand depending on your place, but is that on top or instead of whatever you finished with after Final? Life, don't talk to me about life. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy?
You could be right about that. And nobody's come even remotely close. I remember some people were crying shinnanigans after a while. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:01 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Jeopardy? Hi Bryan, Yeah, that guy was practically unbeatable. However, I thought it was closer to six months before he finally left the show. In any case I've never seen anyone else come close to racking up the money like he did on Jeopardy. On 5/31/12, bpeterson2...@cableone.net bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Not only that but you can drop down into a negative score and if you do that and you don't manage to get back on the plus side before Final Jeopardy you can't participate in that round. Then I'm sure some of us remember eight years ago, how a man managed to remain champion for upwards of three months and won something in the neighborhood of three-million bucks. Life, don't talk to me about life. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Entombed: empower scrolls
I've never been clear on that. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Keith Stormcloud Steinbach Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 10:26 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed: empower scrolls What does the empower scroll do? Thanks Keith Proud user of Window Eyes 7.5.4.1 Reach me at: hea...@mchsi.com and on skype at: keith.steinbach1 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Perilous Hearts
S P O I L E R What you need to do is kill a boar, pick up the corpse and use your knife to skin it. You'll come up with cold meat cuts. Then head right till you find some bushes. Use the matchs on the bushes, then use the meat cuts on the resulting fire to create boar steak. Then just head right to the waterfall to end the level. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 7:08 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Perilous Hearts Tonight, I remembered to check out the Perilous Hearts concept demo (better late than never eh). Crazily good sound design and mechanics from what I've played so far! I just have three questions, the first of them more aimed at Philip, but I know he pops in here from time to time so... 1. Love the idea of gradually increasing from a walk to a run, feels and sounds very natural. For maximum realism, could you make it so that when an angry animal is within striking distance or very close to it, your speed increases bringing you to a run quicker? Either that, or a sequence such as CTRL and three fast taps on the direction you want to head in makes a fast dash. To stop it from unbalancing the game, you could make it so that too many consequitive dashes trips Jim over or something. Just think it'd add to the realism, as useless as I'd no doubt be against an angry chimp, I'm pretty sure I'd instinctively do the human version of naught to sixty a lot quicker than if I wasn't in any immediate danger of being ripped limb from limb. 2. Anyone figured out how to get down the waterfall safely yet? I can make it there unscathed now, but can't for the life of me figure out how to get any further. 3. How do you use the matches on things? I can drop 'em and pick 'em up, but haven't figured out how to do much more than that with them. Enter just tells me not to waste them. Cheers Scott --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Perilous Hearts
Nope. Philip hasn't said anything more on that. So it'll be out when it's ready. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: michael barnes Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 7:45 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Perilous Hearts Hey, what I would like to know is does anyone know when the full version will be release? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Quick question on Chillingham and Grizzly Gulch.
There really isn't except for the combat. Life, don't talk to me about life. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 8:51 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Quick question on Chillingham and Grizzly Gulch. Can't you tell by playing the different levels if there is a difference? --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 10:10 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Quick question on Chillingham and Grizzly Gulch. Hey, I have been playing the Bavisoft games on the hard level. However I was wondering when you beat them on the hard level besides the way they have the shooting part setup, is there any difference between the two level? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
