[Audyssey] a dark room?
Hi guys. I have bene playing a dark room. I have a few questions however: 1. is the only way to get cured meat to go to the house and battle with the old man? 2. If you use up food to get somewhere then how do you battle with whatever creature you encounter if you have not got many hit points? 3. when I go back in to the room it tells me I should gather more wood. Why do I need more wood? I think that will do for now. thanks. Warm regards and blessings Maria, Joe and FurBabies Email: iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] children's game?
HI. reading through the list I saw some discussion about a children’s game, where they have to find things etc. Does someone have a link for this game? thanks Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A Dark Room, now an IOS iPhone game
HI. am playing with the alternative ending. So how do I craft a torch? thanks Warm regards and blessings Maria, Joe and FurBabies Email: iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 5 Jan 2014, at 7:33 am, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi. Basically the game is a mix between resource management and an old fashioned dungeon style rpg (it rather reminded me of a dos game like fallthru or drone). You have a village of slaves who work to get you resources like wood, fir, scales, teeth and such. You can build different buildings such as huts to increase your population size, or buildings like a tanary, smoke house or hunters lodge to give you access to other jobs to get more materials. That end of things is sort of similar to castaways. The difference however is that you use these resources to not only expand your village but also build your rpg adventuring items, for example to enter dungeons and such you need torches which must be crafted from wood and cloth, while the backpack needs making from leather. The rpg end of things reminds me of fallthru, since you are limited in the amount of things you can carry by your equipment, so even when you defeat a monster you might not be able to pick up all the loot, and you also need to make sure you have enough water, food etc to travel around and have encounters. The game has some random events and encounters, and various locations to explore, though I've not got far in the exploring yet so I can't say how things like dungeons work exactly, still it's an interesting one. One very odd mechanic is that the game is actually real time like a mud, but the developers have put a lot of work into making the game accessible. All new events get instantly spoken, whether random occurrences or standard things in your history, and even though everything in the game (including hits in battle), works on cool down timers with percentages this presents no access issues at all. The only thing I haven't really got thus far is exactly how this fire thing is supposed to work, since while I keep stoking the fire in the main dark room hub of the game I'm not exactly sure what it does, though I'm guessing bad things happen if you ignore it for too long. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a dark room?
HI. I read somewhere that to get the alternative ending we shouldn’t build a hut? is this correct? Ok, what do you mean by clearing a location? If I go to the old house the old man is always there even after I have killed him. lol help? regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.95-the-mix.com where lots of great music is played On 30 Jan 2014, at 5:14 am, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Maria. Several things. Firstly, you need more wood to build things such as huts for your followers, buildings like the tannery to where your followers work, traps that can trap animals to provide other useful resources and also weapons and other handy things. There are several ways to get cured meet, the old man is just one of them. firstly, once you've cleared a location on the map it will turn into an outpost. going to an outpost refills your water, and also outposts have huge lots of cured meet for you to pickup so that you can journey further into the wild. You can also buy cured meet from the merchant at 30 meet each, or if you have built huts and have some followers, you can recruit some hunters to get meet for you, then build a smokehouse ande recruit a charkiteer to turn the meet into cured meet. this is much cheaper than buying from the merchant but you need to build the correct structures and have followers. As to combat, well your fists don't do much damage, but the builder should give you the chance to build more weapons, and once you find some other resources you can take those, just remember that the more weapons you carry with you the more chances you get to attack. Armor can be helpful too, as can bolas if you run across them. hth. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a dark room?
hmmm ok, so I went to the house and fought the old man. When I went there again I had to fight him again. hmmm have I done something wrong? thanks Warm regards and blessings Maria, Joe and FurBabies Email: iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 30 Jan 2014, at 5:23 am, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Maria. No, you don't build any huts at all, but you must still build traps to get things to trade to the merchant. When i say cleared a location I mean fought the monsters and looted the items. it will change on the map to an outpost, ie, if there was an old house 2 west and 2 north of the village, once you've gone there, fought the old man and grabbed the kash of loot there will be an outpost 2 west and 2 north on the map instead, or at least there should be. This is really! cruical for the alternate ending since outposts are your main source of cured meet. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a dark room? HI. I read somewhere that to get the alternative ending we shouldn’t build a hut? is this correct? Ok, what do you mean by clearing a location? If I go to the old house the old man is always there even after I have killed him. lol help? regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.95-the-mix.com where lots of great music is played On 30 Jan 2014, at 5:14 am, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Maria. Several things. Firstly, you need more wood to build things such as huts for your followers, buildings like the tannery to where your followers work, traps that can trap animals to provide other useful resources and also weapons and other handy things. There are several ways to get cured meet, the old man is just one of them. firstly, once you've cleared a location on the map it will turn into an outpost. going to an outpost refills your water, and also outposts have huge lots of cured meet for you to pickup so that you can journey further into the wild. You can also buy cured meet from the merchant at 30 meet each, or if you have built huts and have some followers, you can recruit some hunters to get meet for you, then build a smokehouse ande recruit a charkiteer to turn the meet into cured meet. this is much cheaper than buying from the merchant but you need to build the correct structures and have followers. As to combat, well your fists don't do much damage, but the builder should give you the chance to build more weapons, and once you find some other resources you can take those, just remember that the more weapons you carry with you the more chances you get to attack. Armor can be helpful too, as can bolas if you run across them. hth. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Children's Game
Hi. so there are other games that can be played by children? Are these also accessible to a blind player? I have a friend who would like to play them with her granddaughter. thanks. also accessible to Blessings! maria and Joe chapman Email, iMessage fb: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com twitter: bubbygirl On 30 Jan 2014, at 6:48 am, Eleanor elea...@7128.com wrote: Hi, The game FindIt can be located by going to: http://www.7128.com/getgames.html#pizzaGames That will put you in the Pizza Games list. Paddle down the list until you reach the FindIt game. Eleanor Robinson 7-128 Software --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Children's Game
HI. thanks much for the info. I have sent the link to my friend. she is always looking for things she can do with her granddaughter. Cheers Maria sent from mac mini email, fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com skype bubbygirl1972 twitter same as skype without the numbers. On 30 Jan 2014, at 6:53 am, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Maria: Yes. Go to the 7128 game's website, and checkout their pizza games for children. Cheers! On 1/29/14, Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. so there are other games that can be played by children? Are these also accessible to a blind player? I have a friend who would like to play them with her granddaughter. thanks. also accessible to Blessings! maria and Joe chapman Email, iMessage fb: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com twitter: bubbygirl --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a dark room?
Hi. I hit continue. Hmmm do you think I should go fight the old man again? I pick up as much as I can carry when I loot. Help? lol Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 30 Jan 2014, at 7:05 am, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I think I realize what is happening. After you kill the old man did you hit the retreat button or the continue button. Even if you won the fight, hitting retreat basically takes you out of the hole thing. You need to carry on hitting continue even if you are full with resources to clear the location. - Original Message - From: Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a dark room? hmmm ok, so I went to the house and fought the old man. When I went there again I had to fight him again. hmmm have I done something wrong? thanks Warm regards and blessings Maria, Joe and FurBabies Email: iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 30 Jan 2014, at 5:23 am, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Maria. No, you don't build any huts at all, but you must still build traps to get things to trade to the merchant. When i say cleared a location I mean fought the monsters and looted the items. it will change on the map to an outpost, ie, if there was an old house 2 west and 2 north of the village, once you've gone there, fought the old man and grabbed the kash of loot there will be an outpost 2 west and 2 north on the map instead, or at least there should be. This is really! cruical for the alternate ending since outposts are your main source of cured meet. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a dark room? HI. I read somewhere that to get the alternative ending we shouldn’t build a hut? is this correct? Ok, what do you mean by clearing a location? If I go to the old house the old man is always there even after I have killed him. lol help? regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.95-the-mix.com where lots of great music is played On 30 Jan 2014, at 5:14 am, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Maria. Several things. Firstly, you need more wood to build things such as huts for your followers, buildings like the tannery to where your followers work, traps that can trap animals to provide other useful resources and also weapons and other handy things. There are several ways to get cured meet, the old man is just one of them. firstly, once you've cleared a location on the map it will turn into an outpost. going to an outpost refills your water, and also outposts have huge lots of cured meet for you to pickup so that you can journey further into the wild. You can also buy cured meet from the merchant at 30 meet each, or if you have built huts and have some followers, you can recruit some hunters to get meet for you, then build a smokehouse ande recruit a charkiteer to turn the meet into cured meet. this is much cheaper than buying from the merchant but you need to build the correct structures and have followers. As to combat, well your fists don't do much damage, but the builder should give you the chance to build more weapons, and once you find some other resources you can take those, just remember that the more weapons you carry with you the more chances you get to attack. Armor can be helpful too, as can bolas if you run across them. hth. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All
Re: [Audyssey] a dark room?
HI. are there other old men in other houses? Cheers Maria sent from mac mini email, fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com skype bubbygirl1972 twitter same as skype without the numbers. On 30 Jan 2014, at 7:12 am, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi MAria. I'm just not understanding this at all. you should hit continue, then go to a small loot screen where you can pick up items. then the house should turn into an outpost at the same location on the map. Are you sure your not going to different houses? Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a dark room? Hi. I hit continue. Hmmm do you think I should go fight the old man again? I pick up as much as I can carry when I loot. Help? lol Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 30 Jan 2014, at 7:05 am, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I think I realize what is happening. After you kill the old man did you hit the retreat button or the continue button. Even if you won the fight, hitting retreat basically takes you out of the hole thing. You need to carry on hitting continue even if you are full with resources to clear the location. - Original Message - From: Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a dark room? hmmm ok, so I went to the house and fought the old man. When I went there again I had to fight him again. hmmm have I done something wrong? thanks Warm regards and blessings Maria, Joe and FurBabies Email: iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 30 Jan 2014, at 5:23 am, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Maria. No, you don't build any huts at all, but you must still build traps to get things to trade to the merchant. When i say cleared a location I mean fought the monsters and looted the items. it will change on the map to an outpost, ie, if there was an old house 2 west and 2 north of the village, once you've gone there, fought the old man and grabbed the kash of loot there will be an outpost 2 west and 2 north on the map instead, or at least there should be. This is really! cruical for the alternate ending since outposts are your main source of cured meet. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a dark room? HI. I read somewhere that to get the alternative ending we shouldn’t build a hut? is this correct? Ok, what do you mean by clearing a location? If I go to the old house the old man is always there even after I have killed him. lol help? regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.95-the-mix.com where lots of great music is played On 30 Jan 2014, at 5:14 am, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Maria. Several things. Firstly, you need more wood to build things such as huts for your followers, buildings like the tannery to where your followers work, traps that can trap animals to provide other useful resources and also weapons and other handy things. There are several ways to get cured meet, the old man is just one of them. firstly, once you've cleared a location on the map it will turn into an outpost. going to an outpost refills your water, and also outposts have huge lots of cured meet for you to pickup so that you can journey further into the wild. You can also buy cured meet from the merchant at 30 meet each, or if you have built huts and have some followers, you can recruit some hunters to get meet for you, then build a smokehouse ande recruit a charkiteer to turn the meet into cured meet. this is much cheaper than buying from the merchant but you need to build the correct structures and have followers. As to combat, well your fists don't do much damage, but the builder should give you the chance to build more weapons, and once you find some other resources you can take those, just remember that the more weapons you carry with you the more chances you get to attack. Armor can be helpful too, as can bolas if you run across them. hth. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow
Re: [Audyssey] a dark room?
a maybe i’m going to different houses then. will keep plugging away and build more traps. I do really like this game. Maybe I should have played it normally the first time round but oh well at least I’ll have something to do if I complete this one. Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 30 Jan 2014, at 7:34 am, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Yes, while there are various different enemies in the game and each location has two or three separate ones, odds are you'll see the same one crop up a few times. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a dark room? HI. are there other old men in other houses? Cheers Maria sent from mac mini email, fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com skype bubbygirl1972 twitter same as skype without the numbers. On 30 Jan 2014, at 7:12 am, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi MAria. I'm just not understanding this at all. you should hit continue, then go to a small loot screen where you can pick up items. then the house should turn into an outpost at the same location on the map. Are you sure your not going to different houses? Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a dark room? Hi. I hit continue. Hmmm do you think I should go fight the old man again? I pick up as much as I can carry when I loot. Help? lol Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 30 Jan 2014, at 7:05 am, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I think I realize what is happening. After you kill the old man did you hit the retreat button or the continue button. Even if you won the fight, hitting retreat basically takes you out of the hole thing. You need to carry on hitting continue even if you are full with resources to clear the location. - Original Message - From: Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a dark room? hmmm ok, so I went to the house and fought the old man. When I went there again I had to fight him again. hmmm have I done something wrong? thanks Warm regards and blessings Maria, Joe and FurBabies Email: iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 30 Jan 2014, at 5:23 am, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Maria. No, you don't build any huts at all, but you must still build traps to get things to trade to the merchant. When i say cleared a location I mean fought the monsters and looted the items. it will change on the map to an outpost, ie, if there was an old house 2 west and 2 north of the village, once you've gone there, fought the old man and grabbed the kash of loot there will be an outpost 2 west and 2 north on the map instead, or at least there should be. This is really! cruical for the alternate ending since outposts are your main source of cured meet. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a dark room? HI. I read somewhere that to get the alternative ending we shouldn’t build a hut? is this correct? Ok, what do you mean by clearing a location? If I go to the old house the old man is always there even after I have killed him. lol help? regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.95-the-mix.com where lots of great music is played On 30 Jan 2014, at 5:14 am, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Maria. Several things. Firstly, you need more wood to build things such as huts for your followers, buildings like the tannery to where your followers work, traps that can trap animals to provide other useful resources and also weapons and other handy things. There are several ways to get cured meet, the old man is just one of them. firstly, once you've cleared a location on the map it will turn into an outpost. going to an outpost refills your water, and also outposts have huge lots of cured meet for you to pickup so that you can journey further into the wild. You can also buy cured meet from the merchant at 30 meet each, or if you have built huts and have some followers, you can recruit some hunters to get meet for you, then build a smokehouse ande recruit a charkiteer to turn the meet into cured meet. this is much cheaper than buying from the merchant but you need to build the correct structures and have followers. As to combat, well your fists don't do much damage, but the builder should
Re: [Audyssey] A Dark Room, now an IOS iPhone game
HI. thanks. I’m still not sure how to make a location an out post? thanks. regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.95-the-mix.com where lots of great music is played On 30 Jan 2014, at 5:20 am, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Maria. What you need to do is carry on building traps, eventually, the builder will open up the options to build more items, though annoyingly you'll need to do a lot of back and forth to get the items, but nobody says the alternate ending is easy. I've done it, but it was a struggle I'll say that. Just remember outposts are your best friend for cured meed, and avoid going to caves until you've build the wagon and can carry all the leather since when playing for the alternate ending leather becomes like gold dust, indeed I'd recommend heading straight to the iron mine and mining until you can build the wagon, and not touching any of the caves until you've got it otherwise you'll have a long haul ahead of you. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Dark Room, now an IOS iPhone game HI. am playing with the alternative ending. So how do I craft a torch? thanks Warm regards and blessings Maria, Joe and FurBabies Email: iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 5 Jan 2014, at 7:33 am, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi. Basically the game is a mix between resource management and an old fashioned dungeon style rpg (it rather reminded me of a dos game like fallthru or drone). You have a village of slaves who work to get you resources like wood, fir, scales, teeth and such. You can build different buildings such as huts to increase your population size, or buildings like a tanary, smoke house or hunters lodge to give you access to other jobs to get more materials. That end of things is sort of similar to castaways. The difference however is that you use these resources to not only expand your village but also build your rpg adventuring items, for example to enter dungeons and such you need torches which must be crafted from wood and cloth, while the backpack needs making from leather. The rpg end of things reminds me of fallthru, since you are limited in the amount of things you can carry by your equipment, so even when you defeat a monster you might not be able to pick up all the loot, and you also need to make sure you have enough water, food etc to travel around and have encounters. The game has some random events and encounters, and various locations to explore, though I've not got far in the exploring yet so I can't say how things like dungeons work exactly, still it's an interesting one. One very odd mechanic is that the game is actually real time like a mud, but the developers have put a lot of work into making the game accessible. All new events get instantly spoken, whether random occurrences or standard things in your history, and even though everything in the game (including hits in battle), works on cool down timers with percentages this presents no access issues at all. The only thing I haven't really got thus far is exactly how this fire thing is supposed to work, since while I keep stoking the fire in the main dark room hub of the game I'm not exactly sure what it does, though I'm guessing bad things happen if you ignore it for too long. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any
Re: [Audyssey] MindCraft details.
I know this topic is away old, but yep, I’ve heard my step sons talking about mine craft and it can get very complex. the game very much depends on what a player does. e.g. if you do certain things you get chickens that lay eggs. but then you can do all kinds of things with those. Blessings! maria and Joe chapman Email, iMessage fb: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com twitter: bubbygirl On 31 Dec 2013, at 11:36 am, Phil Vlasak phi...@bex.net wrote: For those interested in the Minecraft game here are details from the wiki. This is not a blind accessible game as it stands. Minecraft, created by Markus Persson, the founder of Mojang AB. Minecraft development started around May 10, 2009, The game involves players placing and breaking various types of blocks in a three-dimensional environment. The player takes on an avatar that can break and place blocks, forming fantastic structures, creations, and artwork, on multiplayer servers and singleplayer worlds across multiple game modes. Blocks From Minecraft This article is about the various blocks found in Minecraft. All blocks are the basic units of structure in Minecraft, and are essential to the gameplay. Together, they build up the in-game environment, and can be mined and utilized in various fashions. There are one hundred and fifty three different blocks. The face of a block is 16×16 pixels by default, but a player can make the game more detailed, with faces becoming up to 1024x1024 pixels. Each block is proportionately one cubic meter.[1] Most blocks are static, although water, lava, portal, and fire blocks have a shifting pattern for each face. Naturally generated includes blocks that are created through the world seed. Id Block type 00 Air 01 Stone 02 Grass Block 03 Dirt 07 Bedrock 08 Water D 10 Lava D 12 Sand 13 Gravel 14 Gold Ore 15 Iron Ore 16 Coal Ore 17 Wood D B 18 Leaves D B 21 Lapis Lazuli Ore 24 Sandstone 31 Grass D B 32 Dead Bush 37 Dandelion 38 Poppy 39 Brown Mushroom 40 Red Mushroom 56 Diamond Ore 73 Redstone Ore 78 Snow 79 Ice 81 Cactus D 82 Clay Block 83 Sugar Cane D I 86 Pumpkin D 99 Huge Brown Mushroom D 100 Huge Red Mushroom D 103 Melon 106 Vines D 110 Mycelium 111 Lily Pad 120 End Portal block 127 Cocoa 129 Emerald Ore Naturally created means a combination of events that caused a new block to be placed by natural causes, not the player. Id Block type 00 Air 01 Stone 02 Grass 03 Dirt 04 Cobblestone 08 Water D 39 Brown Mushroom 40 Red Mushroom 49 Obsidian 51 Fire D 78 Snow 79 Ice 81 Cactus D 83 Sugar Cane D I 106 Vines D 110 Mycelium StructuresSame as naturally generated, but these blocks are created with the generate structures option enabled. Id Block type 00 Air 04 Cobblestone 05 Wooden Plank 08 Water D 10 Lava D 13 Gravel 17 Wood D B 23 Dispenser D T 24 Sandstone 29 Sticky Piston D 30 Cobweb 35 Wool (Black, Blue, Orange) D B 44 Slabs D B 46 TNT 47 Bookshelf 48 Moss Stone 50 Torch D 52 Monster Spawner T 53 Wooden Stairs D 54 Chest D T 55 Redstone Wire D I 58 Crafting Table 59 Wheat D 60 Farmland D 61 Furnace D T 64 Wooden Door D I 65 Ladders D 66 Rails D 67 Stone Stairs 69 Lever D 70 Stone Pressure Plate D 71 Iron Door D I 72 Wooden Pressure Plate D 77 Button D 85 Fence 93 Redstone Repeater D I 97 Monster Egg D 98 Stone Bricks D B 101 Iron Bars 102 Glass Pane 118 Cauldron D I 120 End Portal block 128 Sandstone Stairs D 131 Tripwire Hook D 132 Tripwire D I 140 Flower Pot D I 141 Carrots D 142 Potatoes D The Nether Naturally generated Id Block type 00 Air 07 Bedrock 10 Lava D 13 Gravel 39 Brown Mushroom 40 Red Mushroom 51 Fire D 87 Netherrack 88 Soul Sand 89 Glowstone 153 Nether Quartz Ore Naturally created Id Block type 00 Air 39 Brown Mushroom 40 Red Mushroom 49 Obsidian 51 Fire D 90 Portal StructuresThese blocks are generated as part of Nether fortresses. Even if the Generate Structures option is turned off, Nether fortresses are still created. Id Block type 00 Air 10 Lava D 52 Monster Spawner T 54 Chest 88 Soul Sand 112 Nether Brick 113 Nether Brick Fence 114 Nether Brick Stairs D 115 Nether Wart D The EndNaturally generatedIcon Id Block type 00 Air 07 Bedrock 49 Obsidian 121 End Stone Naturally createdIcon Id Block type 07 Bedrock 50 Torch 119 End Portal 122 Dragon Egg SURVIVAL TEST The player began with 10 TNT blocks and could obtain dirt, cobblestone from stone, wooden planks from wood, gold blocks from gold ore, iron blocks from iron ore, stone slabs from coal ore, and white wool from sheep. The player could build with naturally occurring blocks (except for Redstone and diamond), and can use bookshelf, sponge, colored wool, brick, obsidian and moss stone. Operators of servers could also build Bedrock. Some custom servers gave the ability to place grass and fluid blocks, too. ` Mobs are living, moving
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi. I don’t mean to give anyone a hard time or anything, I see what you’re saying. But, what about the security wholes in xp that won’t be patched anymore? How will you be sure to remain secure? regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.95-the-mix.com where we play lots of great music On 18 Dec 2013, at 5:46 pm, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi tom. I do appreciate that in theory, things will stop running on xp, and I can't run new versions, heck I'm still running ie8. The problem is that all the compatibility stuff hasn't yet made any practical difference. I've not found any websites, services, applications or things I want to use that require a better machine than I have. Fundamentally if there was some really good new feature of the updated windows media player, some websites or net games I wanted to play or something else in updates that I couldn't do with xp, I would indeed upgrade the system and get used to it. Regarding security and hardware, well 64 bit actually is a bad thing for me since it ruins compatibility with dos programs, and once again nothing requires it. I can accept that the hardware might be more advanced, but that is of no bennifit to me personally if there is nothing I wish to do that requires it. of course, this situation will not go on forever. I fully expect in several years there will be some awsome new features of new os that I will want to play with, some games or programs that I can't run on xp etc, indeed I'm quite amazed that this hasn't already come up. Back in 2007 when windows 7 was first produced I fully expected by around 2010 or 2011, there to be a lot of games, websites, new and inervative media playback and other peaces of software that I'd need better hardware or a new os for, making the hassle of learning the new interface, kicking out compatibility and mucking about with virtual machines and other things worth my time. I'm actually amazed this hasn't happened yet, and despite the aspersions of certain individuals this is indeed why I have been so careful to research Windows 7 to the best of my ability and convenience. As I said I fully expect this situation to change in the future, but at the moment it hasn't. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
HI try free youtube to mp3 converter. Not sure if it will do everything you want but it’s free. Cheers Maria sent from mac mini email, fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com skype bubbygirl1972 twitter same as skype without the numbers. On 17 Dec 2013, at 11:49 pm, Piotr Machacz piterm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As far as virtualising on OS X, I keep an XP VM around for things like games. I gave it 2 gigs of ram and, If I remember right, 2 cores. It does absolutely nothing to OS X if it’s running. But to really compare performance, OS X on this particular macbook (2.7GHZ I7, 16GB ram, SSD), usually uses around 2-3% CPU when I have my usual apps open like email, RSS, Twitter, Messenger, a safari tab or 2. Battery life, 7 hours, or there a bouts. if I boot into windows on bootcamp, it heats up very quickly, uses around 5-10% CPU idle, and battery drops to about 3 hours. Since we’re on the topic of Mac vs windows apps and all that good stuff, I have to say that a lot of the time, Windows has better apps for cheeper. Case and point, there is an app called arid. It’s just a youtube downloader. You paste a link, select either mp4 video or audio only MP3, and convert. All this for an incredibly low price of $20. On Windows, you have something like the free youtube to MP3 converter, which also converts to other audio formats, and can also process entire channels or playlists, a feature that I still haven’t found in any mac video downloader. Another slightly annoying problem is Apple’s no trial policy in the mac app store, where apps are usually $5-$10 and up, and thanks to the not quite accessible UI frameworks like QT, you’re never sure if something is going to read or not. Not saying it’s always the case (look at downcast or iWork which are cheeper than anything on Windows and work either as well or better), but more often than not I’ll admit to looking for a cracked version for an app, testing its accessibility, and then buying it, or not, depending on how that went. On 17 Dec 2013, at 01:39 am, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Its hard for me to speak about virtualizing on Mac, seeing as I don't have one, but from what I can tell Apple knows how to make their OS use the hardware it is running on well so it isn't a resource hog. So even though the processors and memory in Mac's may seem behind compared to Windows machines a Mac user usually gets better performance out of it because Apple doesn't waste the power and memory the way a certain other software company does. As someone recently said, Apple doesn't make junk. Cheers! On 12/15/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Well mac software may be a bit more officient. though I have only heard this from the point view of those musicians and such that use it. SOme of those that are able to use macs will happily bash down windows units for not being as fast. On vertual machines windows probably is not the best to run a vm on a thing I discovered a while ago. A mac or linux is suggested. So as far as windows goes there may be some limits never really gone over them though. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi another way to find the shut down button in win 7 is to press the windows key and right arrow. hth Warm regards and blessings Maria, Joe and FurBabies Email: iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 18 Dec 2013, at 4:45 am, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dark, While I take your point I think your biggest problem comes down to unfamiliarity and lack of experience with the OS rather than the user interface itself being bad. Remember you only used Windows 7 for a very short amount of time and you have not had the time or experience to learn how to do things differently from XP which causes frustrations and a dislike of the new user interface. For example, you said it gets on your wick trying to find the Shutdown Button. It is not hard to find at all. Just do control+escape, hit the tab key three times, and you will land on the Shutdown Button each and every time. Not complicated at all, but I figure you probably sat down to that Windows 7 machine and tried to navigate the Start Menu the same way as the XP Start Menu. Obviously, that won't work and you need to relearn how to navigate the Windows 7 Start Menu because it is arranged totally different. My point being is you hate the new interface in large part because you don't know it. It is unfamiliar to you. You have to forget about the things you know and have someone teach you new shortcuts and ways to handle the interface, and for you, at least, there is no benefit in doing it other than for the sake of upgrading. That's fair, but do recognize your dislike has less to do with the interface being bad but more to do with your lack of experience and familiarity with it. I think if you had as much experience with Windows 7 as XP you would probably feel differently about the interface. Cheers! On 12/17/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. Well that is certainly true, when anything is renamed and redesigned people are going to have to spend more time relearning it, however I do think blindness plays a factor just from my experience of when i could do a task visually as opposed to when i just had to rely on a screen reader. To take one example, one thing that got on my whick about the windows 7 start menue was the fact of it's tree view rather than it being a list. This meant I had to spend considderable time finding basic options such as shutdown etc (I suspect classic shell fixes this to an extent). To take one example, when discussing smugglers the upgrade from smugglers 4 to smugglers 5, one question which came up frequently was where the boarding skill was, since it's tree position has changed in the interface of the two games since the trees and the way the skills are distributed among the professions have changed./ Now, S5 actually has a vastly superior and easier to navigate tree than s4, and there have been several handy access fixes such as it now showing what previous skills are required for later ones when you bring up an info window, thus making it no longer necessary to physically learn the tree view as you had to in s4. For a sighted user however, the relocation of this skill wasn't an issue. They could just look at the tree and bang, there it was, indeed the very concept of tree diagrams, though not inherently a difficult matter is a very visual one to grasp in it's entirety without being able to overview the hole tree, (one reason for the fix of showing skill requirements which I suggested for the game). With windows 8 and 8.1, well I'll have to see if I can find a system running it I could try at some point, and I do in fairness see advantages to things like weather and basic news alerts on the desktop, (I like having it on my Iphone). Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
HI. no problem. I am glad I was able to help. regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.95-the-mix.com where we play lots of great music On 18 Dec 2013, at 5:27 am, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Maria, thanks. I didn't know that, but it is even easier than the way I find the Shutdown button in Win 7. Cheers! On 12/17/13, Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi another way to find the shut down button in win 7 is to press the windows key and right arrow. hth Warm regards and blessings Maria, Joe and FurBabies Email: iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
HI. I agree with you about new operating systems. When I first got my mac. I didn’t think I’d ever be able to learn how to use it. Now I consider myself a fairly proficient user. I think it can sometimes take quite a few weeks if not months to get used to an operating system. I think in the end it comes down to personal preference. Cheers Maria sent from mac mini email, fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com skype bubbygirl1972 twitter same as skype without the numbers. On 18 Dec 2013, at 4:18 am, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Josh, that is a very valid point. All too often there are people who say they hate a certain operating system such as Mac OS, Linux, or a new version of Windows based only on a few hours of trying it at a friends house or at a store and then declaring it junk. the problem is as you stated is that they really do need a few weeks perhaps a few months to get over their prior experiences and give the operating system a fair assessment without biases to find out if they really like it or not. I can use myself as an example here. Back when Windows 8 was available for beta testing I grabbed the public beta, slapped NVDA on it, and my first inclination was that it sucked. I hated the interface, was upset of having all the ribbons in File Explorer, the removal of the Start Menu, whatever. I swore up and down I would not buy it. However, a year later my opinion has changed. Given the choice between Windows 8 and Windows 7 I'd take Windows 8 over Windows 7. There are a variety of reasons why my opinion changed, but one has to do with I have grown use to the changes, I have found workarounds I didn't know about before for things I didn't like, and can look more objectively at certain things like performance, accessibility, and so on which I wasn't really looking at when beta testing. The point is that had I gone on my first impressions alone I would not have gotten Windows 8 or 8.1. I'd probably be as steadfast about Windows 7 as some users are about XP. However, now that I have had time to assess the operating system there are things I don't like, but there are also things I like too. I think my opinion is certainly more valid than it was a year ago. However, there is another flaw in Dark's logic besides just using an operating system for a day and declaring it good or bad, and that is he is looking for some illusive improvement in word processing, playing mp3s, etc. I am afraid if that is his only criteria than he will be disappointed in computers in general since I think all operating systems are about the same in that regard, and he will never find a reason to upgrade because one can do those things just as well on Windows 8.1 as on Windows XP with verylittle to no difference in features. It seems to me Dark's argument is similar to the if it isn't broke don't fix it argument. Cheers~!! On 12/17/13, Draconis i...@dracoent.com wrote: Hi Tom, There is a flaw in Dark’s logic though, and in that of many other’s. I don’t believe when trying out a new system for the first time, bet hat Mac or Linux or Windows 7, that you can spend only a handful of hours with something radically different from what you’re used to and come away with a reasonably informed and valid opinion of it. Operating systems can vary tremendously in terms of how the user interfaces with them, and it takes quite some time for your previous experiences to stop interfering with your usage of the new system. Case in point…a friend and colleague of mine got a Mac, and for the first week or two hated it. He came very close to whipping the drive and installing Windows and forgetting OS X entirely. Then something happened at about the two week mark, when finally something clicked for him, and he started to overcome those barriers that are built through long use of an OS. Today, he’s an avid Mac user and would never go back to Windows, despite having been a Windows user for nearly fifteen years. I see this pattern again and again with people trying out different operating systems. So, no matter the OS, I take no one very seriously who claims their opinion is informed because it is based on a few hours with a brand-new OS. I spent several weeks with Linux a few years back, and while it isn’t for me, and I feel it has far more headaches than it is worth, I do understand its appeal and get why some people choose to use it. I won’t speak with any authority on Windows 8, because I haven’t spent any significant time with it. I read with interest experiences of those who have spent significant time with it, and dismiss those who used it for a day and declared it junk. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] iOS Blind Accessible Game Article
I think every game developer should read this article. Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 26 Nov 2013, at 2:54 am, Richard (AudioGames.net) rich...@audiogames.net wrote: Hi guys, Already read this? http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/DianaHughes/20131120/205346/5_Things_We_Learned_About_Developing_An_iOS_Game_for_Blind_Players.php http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/DianaHughes/20131120/205346/5_Things_We_Learned_About_Developing_An_iOS_Game_for_Blind_Players.php Keep up your accessibility requests!! Greets, Richard http://audiogames.net (forum should be up again, all the downtime recently is caused by our messy provider (sad smile) ) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Freeq by Psychic Bunny
Hi. oh cool i think i will get it tomorrow then. will be interesting to try it out on my new 5 s regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.95-the-mix.com where we play lots of great music On 25/09/2013, at 5:53 PM, Ken The PionEar kenwdow...@me.com wrote: The game absolutely rocks. I wish that each game was longer, since every game is built on the same story line, but it's very good as is. I have run through a dozen scenereos and I think there are still a couple I haven't discovered yet. Check out my games at www.ThePionEar.net and my music, and that of my band, at www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html . Also, check out, The Believer and Skeptic Show, at iTunes! If you want to reach me, you can call 419-744-0517, friend me on Facebook, (KenWDowney,) or write me at kenwdow...@me.com . - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Freeq by Psychic Bunny On 9/22/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Phil, Wow! Definitely sounds like a different type of game. I'm interested in it, but I don't have an iPhone just yet to try it. However, it definitely looks like something I'd try if I did have one. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for one foundation help
HI. the foundation card is the one next to the pack and if you have vo hints enabled it should say foundation. Blessings! maria and Joe chapman Email, iMessage fb: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com twitter: bubbygirl On 26/09/2013, at 1:09 AM, Shannon Dyer solsticesin...@gmail.com wrote: How do I know which is the foundation card? When I start a new game, I have several cards, and then the pack button. I'll definitely look for your boos though. Thanks. Shannon On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:49 PM, Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi If you have audio boo I did some boos on how to play one foundation. Feel free to follow me and check them out. my ID is bubbygirl. I will try to explain in case you don't do boos. You have the pack of cards which you can draw from, then you have the foundation card. This is the card you have to place other cars on. the object of the game is to use all the cards. So, let's say the foundation card is an 8. Look through the cards that say exposed and if you have a 9 or a 7 double tap and the card will go on top of the 8. The new card is now your foundation card. So let's say it was a 9. Now you can put a 10 or 8 on the 9. Once you have made all possible plays draw another card from the pack. I hope this helps Cheers Maria sent from mac mini email, fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com skype bubbygirl1972 twitter same as skype without the numbers. On 22/09/2013, at 11:21 AM, Shannon Dyer solsticesin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all. I'm wondering if anyone knows of a podcast that explains how to play one foundation for IOS. I read the rules, but, when I look at the cards I'm dealt, I don't know what to do. Somehow, I managed to get a score of five, but it must have been a fluke, as I have no clue how I did it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Shannon --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] playroom in web client?
Hi. did you say the playroom is now in a web client? thanks regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.95-the-mix.com where we play lots of great music On 12/09/2013, at 1:40 PM, Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com wrote: Well, my point of view. I have a Mac mini, and an iPod, and a windows desktop that I barely use. I have King of Dragon Pass on my iPod, and Silverdollar on my mac. I honestly rarely play silverdollar, but I do play rsGames some, on my mac, and may play in the playroom now that it is in a web client also. I do like having games on my iPod, since that means that, on the bus ride from home or school, I can enjoy running a kingdom and such, even though I fail all the time. On the mac, I do wish their were more games, but I'm happy with rsGames, especially since they always are adding content. Envoyé de mon iPod Le 11 sept. 2013 à 22:28, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com a écrit : Hi Josh, Obviously, the PC will still be useful in a business setting, and people will use them to type reports, create spreadsheets, and do other office work, but that wasn't really the point I was getting at. Although, someone could get a bluetooth keyboard to work with there iPhone or iPad if they wanted to use that for typing reports and such. The point is a lot of things like web browsing, email, and playing games can easily be done from someone's iPhone and as a result people will slowly use their PC less as they adapt to doing things on their phone that they use to use their desktop or laptop for. As a result I'm sure audio games will begin to move over to iOS, as they already have, and we will see less and less of games for Windows and such. Cheers! On 9/11/13, Josh joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: but I se pcs sticking around for awhile. imagine business people trying to do long reports and complicated spreadsheets on their touch only tablet? and what about those of us who like to use different linux systems? sent from my vinux4 linux laptop --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users
Hi. I still have my music organized in folders and sub folders. If you add a track to the itunes library for any reason then sure, it will tag it etc but all my music and stuff still stays where I put it. There are also a few media players for mac such as vlc. If there is something I want to do in windows that I can't do on the mac there is vmware or bootcamp. regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.95-the-mix.com where we play lots of great music On 12/09/2013, at 5:48 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I'll think about that. For me, I just don't see why! I should! upgrade other than to please microsoft's expanding pockets, (and in fairness microsoft should've included proppper backwards compatibility, after all it's not as if they don't have the money for developement). In fairness I'd need to investigate the bennifits of mac as an os, though having been quite impressed with vo's performance on the iphone I do know usage won't be as problematic as it would be with the irritating post xp interface. The only thing that puts me off mac is the stupidity with file management for audio files, (I've found a way to get folder structures on the iphone using playlists but it's not what I'd want all the time, and the fact that I need something that opens office and rtf documents. I'd also be concerned that if, as people keep claiming newer windows versions have upgraded this, latest that and more numbers in the other someone would! be more likely to make something I wanted to do on windows than on mac, (particularly since I already have access to a lot of mac stuff on ios). All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users Hi Dark, Yes, you can run a Windows XP virtual machine on Mac. You can get VMWare Workstation to run XP in a virtual machine, or you can use Boot Camp to setup a multiboot with XP if you want to go that way for running your old Windows apps and games. Either way the Mac allows you to keep your old Windos OS while running the very latest version of Mac OS and apps. P.S. FYI. It is Linux, L i n u x, not Lynux, L y n u x. Cheers! On 9/11/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: That is likely what I will end up doing eventually, can you run an xp vm on a mac? I see myself more likely to go with mac than lynux, since mac has more options for access etc than windows, unless something changes. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Announcement: playing on the playroom from mac, smartphones and tablets with the web client
HI. just tried the web client and it's very cool. the only thing I've noticed is the card that's played isn't always announced. Am using a mac with voice over. Will be interested to see how well this works on a smart phone. Cheers Maria sent from mac mini email, fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com skype bubbygirl1972 twitter same as skype without the numbers. On 10/09/2013, at 3:16 PM, QuentinC quent...@cfardel.net wrote: Hello all, For the third year of playroom's anniversary, I'm very happy to announce you the beta release of the playroom web client. This web client is of course not as good, as fast and as easy to use than the original windows client, but it allows you from now on to connect to the playroom and play on mac, smartphones and tablets. It is still in beta, meaning that tehre are still numerous bugs, but it's already quite usable WE have released a new game too, again for the third anniversary celebration: french tarot. This is a quite complex card game, already enjoyed by many people, especially in France, but also in other european countries. IF you don't know what is the playroom yet, don't worry. Playroom is a gaming platform especially made for visually impaired people where you will find 20 classical and less popular card, dice and board games. For example you will find uno, monopoly, poker, black jack, spades, yahtzee, farkle, connect4, ammong others. our website is http://qcsalon.net/ Feel free to comment here, or on the dedicated topic in our forum if it concerns the web client. You will find this topic here with many more information: http://qcsalon.net/en/forum5/topic1841 Have fun on the playroom ! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for one foundation help
Hi If you have audio boo I did some boos on how to play one foundation. Feel free to follow me and check them out. my ID is bubbygirl. I will try to explain in case you don't do boos. You have the pack of cards which you can draw from, then you have the foundation card. This is the card you have to place other cars on. the object of the game is to use all the cards. So, let's say the foundation card is an 8. Look through the cards that say exposed and if you have a 9 or a 7 double tap and the card will go on top of the 8. The new card is now your foundation card. So let's say it was a 9. Now you can put a 10 or 8 on the 9. Once you have made all possible plays draw another card from the pack. I hope this helps Cheers Maria sent from mac mini email, fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com skype bubbygirl1972 twitter same as skype without the numbers. On 22/09/2013, at 11:21 AM, Shannon Dyer solsticesin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all. I'm wondering if anyone knows of a podcast that explains how to play one foundation for IOS. I read the rules, but, when I look at the cards I'm dealt, I don't know what to do. Somehow, I managed to get a score of five, but it must have been a fluke, as I have no clue how I did it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Shannon --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] intro
Hi thanks heaps. regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.95-the-mix.com where we play lots of great music On 03/09/2013, at 12:10 AM, James Bartlett jab8...@gmail.com wrote: hI Maria I just wanted to say walcom back and happy gameing. bfn James -- From: Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 7:17 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] intro Hi list. I was on this list a long, long time ago. I am Maria and live in australia. I love audio games mostly on my apple devices. there are a few games i like to play on the mac as well and I also have access to windows. I am totally in to Solara at the moment lol. Am happy to be here. Warm regards and blessings Maria, Joe and FurBabies Email: iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] intro
Hi list. I was on this list a long, long time ago. I am Maria and live in australia. I love audio games mostly on my apple devices. there are a few games i like to play on the mac as well and I also have access to windows. I am totally in to Solara at the moment lol. Am happy to be here. Warm regards and blessings Maria, Joe and FurBabies Email: iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] intro
Hi. thank you. I'm sure I will. regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.95-the-mix.com where we play lots of great music On 31/08/2013, at 10:23 PM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Maria, Welcome back to the list. Hope you have fun here. Cheers! On 8/30/13, Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list. I was on this list a long, long time ago. I am Maria and live in australia. I love audio games mostly on my apple devices. there are a few games i like to play on the mac as well and I also have access to windows. I am totally in to Solara at the moment lol. Am happy to be here. Warm regards and blessings Maria, Joe and FurBabies Email: iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.