Re: [Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games (JeremyKaldobsky)
I get the same thing with Dar,. i think I've run into two others who may have been the same person, but that's it. There were a couple more during the time the anime boogy pop phantom became popular which had the phantom thief dark, but these days I barely see any and most are myself ;d., Actually it's at the stage now where Dark is as much my name as Luke is, and I can respond to either, either online or even in conversation equally well. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Jeremy Kaldobsky" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games (JeremyKaldobsky) Aprone is a nick name I've used for, something like, 14 years. Because it is pretty easy for people to remember, and it is unique, if you run in to it on virtually any game or community, you know you've found me. I've only ever ran into 2 people who used the name Aprone, and after talking to one of them, it turns out he was using it because he had seen my work in another online community, and liked the name. I've not seen any other "Aprones" since. I like that friends can say "Hey, I almost beat your high score on game, such and such." for any random website games, simply because they spot "Aprone" on the score lists. People are so used to me being the only Aprone, that they don't even bother questioning whether it is me or not. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games
Hi, Interesting. Been looking over the say tools. It looks like it is primarily for a Python dev, but they have a little C++ code etc here to give you the general idea of how to use it as a general com component. the one thing I didn't see is any docs on the license agreement. If I were to include this in G3D for TTS support I'd like to know if it can safely be used with commercial products. On 7/15/11, Jacob Kruger wrote: > Jeremy, for windows implementation of screenreader voices, SayTools is a > sort of simple wrapper for implementing support for using their own voices: > http://www.empowermentzone.com/saysetup.exe > > Stay well > > Jacob Kruger > Blind Biker > Skype: BlindZA > '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games
Thank you sir, I'll give these a look in the morning. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games
Jeremy, for windows implementation of screenreader voices, SayTools is a sort of simple wrapper for implementing support for using their own voices: http://www.empowermentzone.com/saysetup.exe Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: "Jeremy Kaldobsky" To: ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games Che, if you feel like sending me anything to help with Jaws support, I would appreciate it. The first time you run the game, it might take a minute to start up. A few people have told me that. If it took, longer than you expected, to start up, you may have started pressing keys and it ended up being shoved to the background when it finally loaded. I suggest checking your task list to see if it is there. If it's running already, trying to run it again won't work. This is to prevent people from opening up multiple copies of the game at the same time. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games
http://www.empowermentzone.com/saysetup.exe Sort of a wrapper for implementation of various screen reader voices, and I even play around with this in it's command line form for that python command line thing when on windows. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games Hi, Not sure how much Jason Allen could help as Entombed was written in C# .Net where Jeremy's games are all VB 6. That said, I believe the Jaws API is a standard com component and there should be some kind of open specification or documentation on it somewhere. Although, I haven't been able to find it myself. If anyone has any documentation on the Jaws API I'd like to know as it could come in handy. On 7/15/11, alex wallis wrote: Hi aproan, I am just wondering, have you had any luck improving jaws support for your games? I think if we could play using jaws rather than sapi it would really improve game play, particularly as its quite hard to get good sapi voices running under windows 7 64 bit. this is just a suggestion, but have you tried talking to jason, the maker of entombed? as he got jaws support working quite well in his game, though there are one or two issues still with it, but he can probably tell you how to get support for jaws working properly. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games
Che, if you feel like sending me anything to help with Jaws support, I would appreciate it. The first time you run the game, it might take a minute to start up. A few people have told me that. If it took, longer than you expected, to start up, you may have started pressing keys and it ended up being shoved to the background when it finally loaded. I suggest checking your task list to see if it is there. If it's running already, trying to run it again won't work. This is to prevent people from opening up multiple copies of the game at the same time. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games
Actually, Jason got his Jaws code for entombed from me. for a long time, entombed had no screenreader support other than SAPI, and I wanted to help him get the game out there to as wide an audience as possible, as it is a great game and he was really working hard to create something new for the VI community. I prodded him for a while on his entombed list to include jaws support, but he had tons of other stuff to deal with, and being sighted, didn't really realize the importance of including support for the majority screenreader out there in a commercial game, so I went ahead and sent him my screenreader code I was using for the blind adrenaline card room. Of course, Jason had to modify my code to fit into his system, but there isn't much to including jaws support in a game if your setup is modular. At least that is the case with .net, with vb 6, I'm not so sure, all I've ever programmed in is VB.net and c sharp. However, if someone as inexperienced as me can do it, any experienced programmer should be able to get it up and running in no time. Frankly, I don't remember how I got docs for the .api, that has been a while back, but its out there somewhere. Also, I have a question about castaways. I love Jeremys games, and want to check this out, but I unzipped it and read the read me text, but that only lays out the keys. I tried running the executable on this win 7 64 machine, but got nothing at all. Sorry if this has already been discussed on list, but is there a trick to getting it to run? Thanks che On 7/15/2011 12:11 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi, Not sure how much Jason Allen could help as Entombed was written in C# .Net where Jeremy's games are all VB 6. That said, I believe the Jaws API is a standard com component and there should be some kind of open specification or documentation on it somewhere. Although, I haven't been able to find it myself. If anyone has any documentation on the Jaws API I'd like to know as it could come in handy. On 7/15/11, alex wallis wrote: Hi aproan, I am just wondering, have you had any luck improving jaws support for your games? I think if we could play using jaws rather than sapi it would really improve game play, particularly as its quite hard to get good sapi voices running under windows 7 64 bit. this is just a suggestion, but have you tried talking to jason, the maker of entombed? as he got jaws support working quite well in his game, though there are one or two issues still with it, but he can probably tell you how to get support for jaws working properly. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games
I must confess I've never had complaints using sapi in his games either personally. Beware the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Bartlett" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games Until then I recommend using NVDA for playing Jeremy's games as the support is flawless. You don't even have to know much about how NVDA works, since the games handle all the speech chores quite seamlessly. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Kaldobsky Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:07 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games Alex, actually I've been so preoccupied with other things, I haven't even gone back to try to fix the Jaws support. Sorry about that everybody! Haha, oh well. I haven't contacted Jason, but who knows, he might see this and speak up with an offer to help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games
Hi Jeremy, So I've noticed. I've had a number of requests to add Jaws support to my games as well, and I can't find any solid documentation on the API. I'm not sure how Freedom Scientific expects us to support their product when they don't supply ample documentation for it. On 7/15/11, Jeremy Kaldobsky wrote: > Finding said documentation, is the problem. lol. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games (Jeremy Kaldobsky)
Aprone is a nick name I've used for, something like, 14 years. Because it is pretty easy for people to remember, and it is unique, if you run in to it on virtually any game or community, you know you've found me. I've only ever ran into 2 people who used the name Aprone, and after talking to one of them, it turns out he was using it because he had seen my work in another online community, and liked the name. I've not seen any other "Aprones" since. I like that friends can say "Hey, I almost beat your high score on game, such and such." for any random website games, simply because they spot "Aprone" on the score lists. People are so used to me being the only Aprone, that they don't even bother questioning whether it is me or not. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games
Finding said documentation, is the problem. lol. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games
Hi, Agreed. Although I am a full time NVDA user myself now days I can say that the support in Castaways and other games is first rate. Until Jaws support gets implemented the best way to play Aproan's games is simply to install and use NVDA with them. On 7/15/11, Christopher Bartlett wrote: > Until then I recommend using NVDA for playing Jeremy's games as the support > is flawless. You don't even have to know much about how NVDA works, since > the games handle all the speech chores quite seamlessly. > > Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games
Hi, Not sure how much Jason Allen could help as Entombed was written in C# .Net where Jeremy's games are all VB 6. That said, I believe the Jaws API is a standard com component and there should be some kind of open specification or documentation on it somewhere. Although, I haven't been able to find it myself. If anyone has any documentation on the Jaws API I'd like to know as it could come in handy. On 7/15/11, alex wallis wrote: > Hi > aproan, I am just wondering, have you had any luck improving jaws > support for your games? > I think if we could play using jaws rather than sapi it would really > improve game play, particularly as its quite hard to get good sapi > voices running under windows 7 64 bit. > > this is just a suggestion, but have you tried talking to jason, the > maker of entombed? as he got jaws support working quite well in his > game, though there are one or two issues still with it, but he can > probably tell you how to get support for jaws working properly. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games
Until then I recommend using NVDA for playing Jeremy's games as the support is flawless. You don't even have to know much about how NVDA works, since the games handle all the speech chores quite seamlessly. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Kaldobsky Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:07 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games Alex, actually I've been so preoccupied with other things, I haven't even gone back to try to fix the Jaws support. Sorry about that everybody! Haha, oh well. I haven't contacted Jason, but who knows, he might see this and speak up with an offer to help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games (Jeremy Kaldobsky)
Hi, I really would like to see jaws support fixed up, as I am having to put up with those microsoft voices because I am running windows 7 64 bit, the good 32 bit voices install, and can be used by jaws for example, but they are not listed in the control panel, and I am beginning to really tire of the standard microsoft so called voices. If you were to fix jaws up, you could then add support for it to all of your other titles easily. also, going off on a bit of a tangent, Jeremy, I see that is your name listed on messages you send, so where do you get aproan from, as that's what you call yourself in game etc. Is it a nick name? or something else? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games
Alex, actually I've been so preoccupied with other things, I haven't even gone back to try to fix the Jaws support. Sorry about that everybody! Haha, oh well. I haven't contacted Jason, but who knows, he might see this and speak up with an offer to help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] jaws support in castaways and other games
Hi aproan, I am just wondering, have you had any luck improving jaws support for your games? I think if we could play using jaws rather than sapi it would really improve game play, particularly as its quite hard to get good sapi voices running under windows 7 64 bit. this is just a suggestion, but have you tried talking to jason, the maker of entombed? as he got jaws support working quite well in his game, though there are one or two issues still with it, but he can probably tell you how to get support for jaws working properly. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
