Hi Josh,
You are comparing apples to oranges here. The Vocalizer Add-on and
Leasey are completely two different types of programs, are supported
differently by NVDA, thus is a poor comparison. Let me explain.
With Leasey it is written to be a screen reader add-on. It directly
interfaces with the
[mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Josh K
Sent: 27 July 2015 19:35
To: Gamers Discussion list; phi...@blastbay.com
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
I have not used jaws in over 5 years and don't plan on going back to it.
i use NVDA and window eyes.
follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Hi all.
The content of this thread is making me a little uncomfortable.
You may not agree with what has happened but encouraging piracy and personal
attacks makes no one look good and especially from people normally respected
in our community
Hello Ari,
Agreed. Here in the States at least Jaws is generally purchased by
agencies for clients and I can see in certain cases Leasey being
purchased along side Jaws for JSay and other stuff that comes bundled
with it. So in those circumstances yes Q9 might spread further than
one might
I believe windows pricing is:
$119 for home, $199 for pro
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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 16:01
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Hi Dark,
I believe
Hello Ari,
Correct. Leasey is completely closed source and NVDA is licence under
the GPL which requires most things to be open source and to really do
what Leasey does it would have to be open source. Therefore since
Leasey is a commercial project the GPL type license wouldn't allow
them to
@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Hi John,
That sounds about right. Although, the pricing for Windows depends on
the retailer the person buys it from. It can be slightly higher or
cheaper depending on where one buys it.
Cheers!
On 8/10/15, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote:
I
Hi Tom.
My one major issue with this is as I said that Philip's work that he
obviously put much time and trouble into is being so devalued, and is being
so badly curtailed for no reason.
Brian Hartgen could! still sell the game for 20 usd as Philip did as a
stand alone program and! give it
: 27 July 2015 19:35
To: Gamers Discussion list; phi...@blastbay.com
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
I have not used jaws in over 5 years and don't plan on going back to it.
i use NVDA and window eyes.
follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
On 7/27/2015 2:31 PM, Scott Chesworth
Hi John,
That sounds about right. Although, the pricing for Windows depends on
the retailer the person buys it from. It can be slightly higher or
cheaper depending on where one buys it.
Cheers!
On 8/10/15, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe windows pricing is:
$119 for home, $199
Hi Dark,
I believe your Windows analogy is pretty close a comparison as we can
get. Not exactly the same situation, but close enough for comparison
that the concepts carry over.
As you said Leasy costs no more than it ever has and I believe Brian
has purchased Q9 to include in Leasey as a sort
I agree with you tom.
I like the game, but itsno problem if its moved away somewhere.
On 10/08/2015 12:29 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi Shaun,
That's a bit obvious. No one is complaining about Q9 but the way the
transfer was handled and the way Brian Hartgen has decided to
distribute the game
Hi Tom.
I know Tj was philip's first game and that later he stopped using javascript
and maybe architecturally the system could've been programmed better, but
the game did a lot right, indeed I bought it in 2006 when it was a
commercial game and wasn't sorry.
Each side scrolling level was a
Hi Josh.
I've heard this arguement that the game is now worth 200 usd before, but
that is just looking at it from one perspective.
From Brian Hartgen's point of view he has bought Q9 to essentially be a
bonus.
It's like the solitare and other games that comes with windows. It would be
foolish
I think we already have a Mario?
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Ämne: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
not another tarzan junior. How about a side
Hi Josh,
I don't think anyone will disagree with that. It is bad marketing, but
I don't think we need to continue to belabor the point. What is done
is done and continuing to moan and groan about it isn't going to
change things. So if there is nothing more constructive to say on the
issue I think
Because philip are a jaws lover
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Skickat: den 24 juli 2015 03:38
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Hello,
It seems as if Licy is just
Dont know
Who is it?
But no developers force people to use a screen reader like Philip do
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Ämne: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has
Hi Bryan,
I agree. This topic has gone about as far as it can go, and at some
point people are just spinning their wheels repeating the same old
arguments. We should begin wrapping it up and moving on to something
else.
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Hello,
It seems as if Licy is just a ton of Jaws scripts combined in a massive
package.
I've never used it, but from looking at the description, and reviews, that
is what it sounds like.
Why would they want an audio game sold
: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Don’t know
Who is it?
But no developers force people to use a screen reader like Philip do
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Ämne
Hi Mattias,
While Philip may be a Jaws user I don't think this situation with Q9
has arisen because he is a Jaws lover. I don't think that had
anything to do with it. As Philip explained on the Audiogames.net
Forum it was a simple business arrangement where Brian Hartgen offered
him an
of people who do not want to buy that product.
All the best,
Dark.
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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Hi Mattias,
While Philip may
list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
The solution to all this is to have all these young, competing developers
team up and make something amazing and jaw-dropping for once.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 29, 2015, at 2:40 AM, Shaun Everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:
well the game is old
Thomas,
When people are angry and need a target to lash out at, they'll find
one. It doesn't have to make any sense, because it's not about fixing
the problem - it's about venting.
Dennis Towne
Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Thomas Ward
Probably for the simple reason that Philip sold the game to this particular
individual.
Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message-
From: Thomas Ward
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:13 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Hi
Hi Matthias,
True, but that is not directly Philip's fault. He sold it to Brian
Hartgen who is the one that has locked Q9 to Jaws and Leasey. There is
a difference here in who is to blame for the unfortunate state of
affairs. I'm puzzled as to why you continue to blame Philip when he no
longer
Which isn't Philip's fault.
Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
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From: mattias
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:56 AM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
But you cant buy the game without the rest jaws stuff
Heck I don't think q9 was the issue.
for its time q9 rocked.
I don't know if I'd buy q9 again or a game like it.
I think the issue tom was more how it was sold and who got it.
In this case a restricted platform which is what is getting people in a
hustle about is the big thing.
I don't think
Hi Shaun,
That's a bit obvious. No one is complaining about Q9 but the way the
transfer was handled and the way Brian Hartgen has decided to
distribute the game now that he has it.
The point in my message you responded to is that if people don't like
the new distribution policy that the game
well its bad marketing. Q9 is not worth $200.
follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
On 8/9/2015 8:29 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi Shaun,
That's a bit obvious. No one is complaining about Q9 but the way the
transfer was handled and the way Brian Hartgen has decided to
distribute the game now that he
not another tarzan junior. How about a side scroller that combines mario
and sonic with mortal combat. And you could get all kinds of weapons
like swords and bombs. and make levels where you have to smash cars and
stuff with hammers. Or smash cars with your fish as you run bye them or
jump
Hi Bryan,
True. Not every developer does use the same programming language
and/or platform. That said, there are ways around that problem if the
developers really and truly want to work together to develop something
decent.
As with every collaboration project there would be a bit of give and
Hi Dark,
Oh, definitely agree. I've actually been doing some thinking and I
think what would be cool is a modern remake or clone of Tarzan Junior
since presumably Philip still holds the rights and it would be easy to
get permission to rewrite TJ. Reason being it could be designed to use
similar
Hi Tom.
Well yes Q9 has the fairly standard environments, weapons and gameplay, but
as I said it's the design here that matters. This is actually why I'd be
interested if one of our more established and experienced developers worked
on some sort of side scroller sinse funnily enough while a
But you cant buy the game without the rest jaws stuff
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Ämne: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Hi Mattias,
While
Hi Shaun,
I'm all for the idea of a Q9 clone. A developer, whoever that would
be, could create something like Q9 and either sell it or give it away
legally. It isn't like such things haven't been done before, and the
game is generic enough that something similar can be created without
much of a
Hi Charles,
A comment about your comment. There is a lot more to the legalization
of illegal drugs than just everyone is doing it. Some studies have
shown that countries like Portugal which have relaxed their drug
policies have a less of a drug problem per person than countries that
have really
Hi Shaun,
We have a strict no piracy rule here on Audyssey so yes the mods do
mind. While I am upset with how Q9 was handled that doesn't mean I'll
relax the rule about sharing the keys on this or any other list I run
because it is piracy. Just because I think Mr. Hartgen is being a bit
of a jerk
Hi Tom.
In light of this debate, I did go and play Q9, and one thing struck me. Lots
of people have tried! to develop games like Q9 but not many have been as
successful, look at games like Battle Zone, indeed I would say that these
are probably the most common type of audiogames people first
I agree, and it's such a shame blastbay is no longer in operation.
-Original Message-
From: dark
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 9:00 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Hi Tom.
In light of this debate, I did go and play Q9, and one thing struck me
.
Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message-
From: mattias
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 9:42 AM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: [Audyssey] q9
Can people here stop to take philip in Defence
Or what the English word are
Developers should not force users
or
more dollars for the entire package.
Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message-
From: mattias
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 9:25 AM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Because philip love jaws to much
-Ursprungligt
Hi Dark,
I agree with all your points. Although, Q9 is a simple side-scroller
it was well thought out and well designed from a development
standpoint. It had good game mechanics, good music, good sounds, a bit
of light humor, and a lot of beginners just aren't quite able to
deliver that quality.
Hi Bryan,
Maybe so but the fact of the matter is I get the feeling this deal
went down rather suddenly. I don't know what if any influence Philip
had over distribution of Q9 when Brian Hartgen took control of the
product, and I'm not sure he really cared about new sales that much.
The only
.
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- Original Message - From: Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Problem is:
People might see what else is out there, if they explore. But Leesy isn't made
for that. Its made to sort of lock you in, to get you with it and have all the
tools and fun you'll ever need. So no, I doubt they'll come here, no. They'll
stay with the games Leesy has made available
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Philip legally doesn't even own the product he created anymore. There
is literally nothing he can do. He can't sell his own game, he can't
reclaim it, its just
:
Interesting change. Would you be willing to elaborate a bit on why you took
this rout?
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From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 10:17
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New
Hello,
Yes it would have been way more advantageous to announce that the sales
were going to end in 2 weeks so get your version of q9 before it sells
out, but he didn't do that.
If you wish to play q9, find someone and play it on their computer.
I have never played it and it is only because of
Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
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I would think that he's shooting himself in both feet with this practice.
As for hoping that he goes bankrupt or anything like that, I hope not. I
wouldn't wish that on anyone. However, I feel that sensibly written
complaints
Can people here stop to take philip in Defence
Or what the English word are
Developers should not force users to a specific screen reader
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Because philip love jaws to much
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Skickat: den 29 juli 2015 01:49
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Ämne: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Hi Josh,
Yeah, of course it isn't fair
, 2015 10:17
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Hi all,
I just wanted to post a quick announcement to let you all know that Q9
is moving. From today, the Q9 action game will no longer be sold from
Blastbay Studios but will instead be available
well you can still get a demo if you have a key allready.
or someone will probably give you a key.
Its probably what will happen on the forum its been suggested that that
may be the only way to play the game now.
On the otherside its an old game it was a good intro to bgt but I havn't
played
and for what?
-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Josh K
Sent: 27 July 2015 19:35
To: Gamers Discussion list; phi...@blastbay.com
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
I have not used jaws in over 5 years and don't plan on going back
- From: Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Philip legally doesn't even own the product he created anymore. There
is literally nothing he can do. He can't sell his own game
I agree.
Leasy costs a lot then again its jaws I object to buying.
I'd buy leasy maybe.
On 29/07/2015 2:59 a.m., dark wrote:
As I sid in that topic, I don't feel any animocity towards Philip, he
deserves paying for his time, but I do think this is a bad consequence
for anyone who might want
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
hmmm grand skeem of things friends will share books games and whatever
else they like.
On 7/28/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
If I am selling a game
.
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From: Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Philip legally doesn't even own the product he created anymore. There
is literally nothing he can do. He can't sell his own game, he can't
reclaim
well I do think everything that can be said about this has been said
neither side is budging and well the game was old.
We will just have to remake it and to be honest the plot was a bit
simple, though it was good for its time.
On 29/07/2015 3:19 p.m., Josh K wrote:
yes good argument lets
.
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Philip legally doesn't even own the product he created anymore. There is
literally nothing he can do. He can't
! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're
finished, you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Well Tom, in that case he
Hi Brandon,
Essentially Leasey is a series of Jaws scripts. I suspect they want to
sell games and other software with it to entice people into buying
Leasey. It is possible they discovered their scripts are not doing as
well as they might financially and are hoping to maximize sales by
adding
.
Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
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From: Charles Rivard
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 10:21 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
The only way that they will find out about this game, though, is to buy an
expensive software package
Message -
From: Nick Adamson n...@ndadamson.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Hi all.
The content of this thread is making me a little uncomfortable.
You may not agree with what has happened
Hi all.
The content of this thread is making me a little uncomfortable.
You may not agree with what has happened but encouraging piracy and personal
attacks makes no one look good and especially from people normally respected in
our community.
As there is nothing you can do about the Q9
+1 Nick Adamson.
Also remember that many developers read the audiogames.net forum and
this mailing list.
Seeing how community members respond to one developer's choices is an
easy way to guess how they would act towards other developers whenever
they find something disagreeable.
Expressing
Hi Josh,
Yes, lets drop the stealing topic. It has no place on this list, and
it is getting very close to breaking the list guidelines. So with that
in mind I consider that subject closed.
On 7/28/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
yes good argument lets keep it at that otherwise this
Hi Tom.
I wouldn't go as far as actually sending the guy hate mail, and I confess my
wish that leasy fails was a little bit of bile on my part, however my
thoughts on piracy are actually serious ones, sinse frankly if something is
made unavailable, that is the time people are going to turn to
list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Philip legally doesn't even own the product he created anymore. There is
literally nothing he can do. He can't sell his own game, he can't reclaim
it, its just not his anymore. But y'all
: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Philip legally doesn't even own the product he created anymore. There
is literally nothing he can do. He can't sell his own game, he can't
reclaim it, its just not his anymore. But y'all don't worry. New
games
you're finished,
you! really! are! finished!
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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Hi Dark,
Unfortunately, that's not going
finished,
you! really! are! finished!
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From: Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
I'm willing to bet that some cool hacker will make an add
All I'll say is that a non-gamer should never even attempt to actually sell a
game. He usually screws up and makes everyone mad in the process. Now, he'll
get fewer, I'm willing to bet, purchases of his Jaws-fetishist product than he
would have if he'd stuck to his element and just kept
gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Well Tom, in that case he can bugger off as well!
Ive got half a mind to change the license type to unknown for Q9 in the
audiogames.net db and put a note to the effect similar to those on the bsc
Dark,
Agreed. I wouldn't send the guy hate mail either, and when I did send
him an e-mail about Q9 I did my best to be polite and courteous.
However, I can completely understand the motivations behind some
others sending him hate mail or wanting to kick his door down and just
take the game by
...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
how is it stealing? stealing is taking something from someone and once you
take it that person no longer has or owns it. example. i take your wallet
! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished,
you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message -
From: Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
how
Hi Dark,
I agree. Selling Q9 as a separate product might do him more good than
including it as an add-on for Leasey, but apparently he thinks
otherwise. Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to care what we think and I
don't see that situation changing any time soon.
As for your feelings on the matter
Message - From: Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Philip legally doesn't even own the product he created anymore. There
is literally nothing he can do. He can't sell
Dark,
Honestly I wouldn't blame you a bit for doing that. I'd be perfectly
okay with you just wiping it from the Audiogames.net database,,
because the way I feel about it as long as Brian Hartgen refuses to
sell single end user licenses for Q9 the game is basically unavailable
for all intents and
Oh, look at what you just sent. You must be very brave. I'm not going to do
anything, but that doesn't sound like a good idea
On Jul 28, 2015, at 7:24 PM, Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm willing to bet that some cool hacker will make an add-on for NVDA to
interface with
Message -
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Hi Dark,
I agree. Selling Q9 as a separate product might do him more good than
including it as an add
, if you think you're finished,
you! really! are! finished!
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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Hi Dark,
Not sure I'd go as far
Hi Josh,
Yeah, of course it isn't fair. From now on if someone wants the game
they have to pirate it. Sad but true. There is no longer a legal way
to affordably purchase the game.
On 7/28/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
but that's not fair! what if someone wants to buy the stand
Hi Tom.
I've made a practice of not deleting games that were once available but
currently are not from the db, sinse it's surprising how often old ones pop
up, or in the cases of some games how people manage to acquire them anyway
even if audiogames.net won't help people to do so unless the
Hi Dark,
Fair enough. That seems to me to be a fair compromise.
On 7/28/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
Hi Tom.
I've made a practice of not deleting games that were once available but
currently are not from the db, sinse it's surprising how often old ones pop
up, or in the cases of some
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Hi Tom.
I've made a practice of not deleting games that were once available but
currently are not from the db, sinse it's surprising how often old ones
pop up, or in the cases
: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
I'm willing to bet that some cool hacker will make an add-on for NVDA to
interface with that Jaws-fetish software that I can't spell. Then buying
the thing wouldn't exactly be all that wasteful, although I'd rather
pirate
|I bought Q9 several years ago, and had fun playing it. The computer
I ran it on isn't functional these days, and I somehow lost track of
my authorization key, so it's a shame I'll not be able to play it
again unless I want to pay nearly $200, something |I'm not about to
do. Firstly, it's
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- Original Message - From: Devin Prater
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey
Unfortunately from what I hear Brian Hartgen isn't willing to go that route.
Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
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From: dark
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 8:59 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
As I sid in that topic, I
, 2015 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
Philip legally doesn't even own the product he created anymore. There is
literally nothing he can do. He can't sell his own game, he can't reclaim
it, its just not his anymore. But y'all don't worry. New games will come,
with developers
As I sid in that topic, I don't feel any animocity towards Philip, he
deserves paying for his time, but I do think this is a bad consequence for
anyone who might want to play the game i the future and doesn't want to
either by jaws or leasy, (which itself is not cheap either).
I do think the
Hi Scott,
Unfortunately, no. Philip has sold all rights and legal
responsibilities for Q9 to Brian Hartgen which means there is no
longer any way for him to sell single licenses through Blastbay even
if he wanted to. Brian Hartgen now holds all rights to the game, and
from what I've read on his
yes good argument lets keep it at that otherwise this could start
something bad on list that I don't want started. if you want to share q9
do it in private i think.
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On 7/28/2015 11:03 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi Josh,
The problem with your argument is this.
- From: Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
how is it stealing? stealing is taking something from someone and
once you take it that person no longer has or owns it. example. i
Hi Josh,
The problem with your argument is this. Regardless if you take
something physical or not if you take something that belongs to a
person be it an idea, song, a story, or a piece of software it is
still considered steeling because according to the law you have an
obligation to pay for it.
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