Re: [Audyssey] windows xp mode
Hi Josh, Yes, VMWare definitely does work better than Virtual PC. I've got an older copy of VMWare for Linux and I have run XP via VMWare before and it runs decently. Better to run it natively, of course, but acceptable if you want to run Windows side by side with something like Mac OS, Linux, etc. On 7/14/10, Josh Kennedy wrote: > hi thomas, > I hear that vmware will run xp a lot better than microsoft virtual pc so > maybe I'll have better luck with jim's games running in vmware instead of > microsoft's virtual pc xp mode. > > Josh Kennedy > jkenn...@gmail.com > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] windows xp mode
hi thomas, I hear that vmware will run xp a lot better than microsoft virtual pc so maybe I'll have better luck with jim's games running in vmware instead of microsoft's virtual pc xp mode. Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] windows xp mode and games again
Hi Josh, Thank you for the explanation of how your computer is operating. I still though think that my games may not be running because your computer is a Mac. The only reason I say that is because you are the only person that I know of that has not been able to get my games to run in Windows 7, 32 or 64 bit. People on this list have, people on another blind gamers list have, individuals that have written and called me have and they have talked about friends that have. BFN Jim Hey you know that Mac you got, is it a big Mac? j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] windows xp mode and games
Hi Jim, No, Apple's Bootcamp software doesn't work that way. Windows 7 is not being emulated on his Mac. What Bootcamp basically does is allow a Mac user to resize his/her hard drive to make Mac OS X run side by side with Windows. The user then installs Windows 7 etc on that free partition and then is allowed to select Windows 7 or Mac OS when the computer starts. That way Windows 7 essentually runs as though it was on a standard PC because it is not being virtualized. For example, I have a similar setup on my Compaq notebook with Windows 7 32bit and Ubuntu Linux 10. I installed Windows 7 to the hard drive, and then resized the main partition to roughly half the size of the drive, created free space for another operating system, and then installed Ubuntu Linux 10 to that free partition on my hard drive using its own file system etc. Since Linux comes with a boot manager, Grub, I installed that to the master boot record so now when I push the power button to start my laptop I get a menu with an option to start Windows 7 or Ubuntu 10. Neither operating system is emulated or virtualized, and are physically installed to the machine natively just using separate partitions of the hard drive. Mac's Bootcamp works basically the same way. Now, what Window 7's XP mode is basically Windows XP being run in Virtual PC. It is slow, sluggish, memory intensive, etc. It really doesn't work very well at all because it is being virtualized/emulated. On 7/14/10, Jim Kitchen wrote: > Hi Josh, > > So does that mean that you are trying to get my games to run on a Mac that > is emulating Windows 7 64 bit? > > Maybe that is the problem. Maybe the files from WinKit are not getting > installed like they would on a real PC running real Windows 7. Or that they > are not able to be used correctly in the emulator. > > BFN --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] windows xp mode and games again
Hi No. What I am trying to do is ok here's how windows7 is installed first of all. I have it installed through bootcamp. Bootcamp is not a virtual machine. Bootcamp is a mac utility which allows the installation of multiple operating systems. Its like dual booting a pc. First you partition the hard drive using bootcamp and then you install the operating system. This way the operating system gets the full use of the ram and processors. The disadvantage is you can only run one operating system at a time. Right now I'm writing this email in mac OS10 snow leopard. If I wanted to do something in windows, I would have to shut down and restart. While restarting I would hold down the option or windows key for a few seconds. Then I would press right arrow, enter, and windows would start up. So what I'm trying to do and failing at is to run the games on the windows7 side. I did try installing windows xp mode onto the windows side. It works but is very very slow. what windows xp mode is its windows xp running inside a virtual machine which is a kind of emulator. A virtual machine such as vmware player for windows, vmware fusion for mac, or vmware workstation for linux or microsoft virtual pc: not recommended... it lets you run one operating system inside another. The disadvantage of this is that the virtualized OS cannot utilize all of the system resources. You hve to at least give half your resources to the host and the other half to the guest. When you run one OS inside another using virtualization that virtualized OS is called the guest, and the main OS is called the host. So what I plan to do once I find my xp disk or buy one from ebay is first well I already got vmware player installed on the windows7 side. keep in mind that windows7 is not virtualized, I am running a dual boot system. one half of the hard drive has the mac OS, and the other half has windows7 64bit and I have to choose which one I wish to run before the computer boots up or at startup time. So anyway I have vmware player installed on the windows7 side and once I acquire an xp disk, find mine, buy one, or get an iso image. I will virtualize xp. this means I will be able to alt tab between windows7 and windows xp. There are commands to tell the computer to direct its input to either the host, windows7 or the guest, xp. So since I'm having trouble getting your games to run in windows7 natively, and since I tried xp mode with microsoft virtual pc and its very slow sluggish and bad, since I hear vmware is better I will try virtualizing another copy of xp inside vmware player or maybe vmware fusion for the mac if I decide to buy it and see how it goes. While you're running the virtualized OS, its essentially kind of running a computer inside of a computer. Like taking a big cup and a small cup. you fill the big cup with some water, and put the smaller cup inside it and fil the smaller cup with water, xp is the smaller cup, windows7 is the large one containing the smaller one. Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] windows xp mode and games
Hi Josh, So does that mean that you are trying to get my games to run on a Mac that is emulating Windows 7 64 bit? Maybe that is the problem. Maybe the files from WinKit are not getting installed like they would on a real PC running real Windows 7. Or that they are not able to be used correctly in the emulator. BFN - Original Message - Hi well here we go folks. I'm gunna go over to the windows7 64bit side of my macbook pro and install the windows xp mode which is all it is is it is windows xp running inside a virtual machine. Then once I'm in my virtualized xp then I'll try again to run jim kitchen's games. thank Travis for virtual machines and stuff! Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com Jim Hey you know that Mac you got, is it a big Mac? j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] windows xp mode for games
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[Audyssey] windows xp mode and games
Hi well here we go folks. I'm gunna go over to the windows7 64bit side of my macbook pro and install the windows xp mode which is all it is is it is windows xp running inside a virtual machine. Then once I'm in my virtualized xp then I'll try again to run jim kitchen's games. thank Travis for virtual machines and stuff! Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.