Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason!
Hi, This is my final word on this subject before I close the topic down. Regardless if I use the word crap or not that has absolutely no baring on this subject. In your opinion crap is worse than the h word. I disagree with you. In the end we will have to agree to disagree. What I can say one word is on the ban list and the other is not. I'll talk to my fellow moderators, see what they think, but after that the decision is final one way or the other. On 3/14/10, Darren Harris wrote: > So what about the word crap I've seen thomas use it on numerous times > recently. Sorry but that's worse --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason!
Yup like I said it's setting a double standard. Hell crap is worse than hell any day of the week! Sorry laughing here... -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Sent: 13 March 2010 22:02 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason! Yea, and there's even a game for the commodore 64 called h--- hole. At 08:12 AM 14/03/2010, you wrote: >Hey Steve, >Yeah, agreed with you. I don't know why Thomas gives us a warning, >but it ain't a swair word at all. If I was a moderator of a blind >gaming list for an example, I wouldn't care about language like >this. Off cource I will care about swair words like the f word, but >not the h word. >BTW Thomas, I wasn't cussing Jason and I wouldn't want to ever do that. (snip) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason!
Lol thomas it may be offencive for those who wish to live a sheltered life but the real world isn't like that. Sorry but this is just stupid. If you can use words like crap and then come out with this then that's just pothetic. Sorry but it is. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 14 March 2010 04:08 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason! Hi, While I might agree with you personally the fact of the matter is that there are some who would find that word offensive. That's why one of the list rules is to refrane from using cuss words that many people find offensive. We could debate what is and is not bad language, but generally most of us already know what words are acceptable in public forums and which are not. Generally the h word is considered offensive so that is why I issued the moderator warning. On 3/13/10, Stephen wrote: > Sorry Thomas but I'm afraid I have to disagree with you, I dont think > the h word is a curse word, and it's nowhere up there with the f bomb. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason!
So what about the word crap I've seen thomas use it on numerous times recently. Sorry but that's worse -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Anne Walker Sent: 13 March 2010 23:57 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason! Hello Muhammed, Stephen, and Hayden Personally, I agree with Thomas 100%. This list is used by children and adults alike and there is no need to swear on it. Besides - the guidelines firmly state that there is to be no swearing and if he considers that word a swear word then there isn't much you or I or anyone can say about it. I would suggest that if you do not agree then maybe you should start your own game talk list and make your own rules/guidelines then you would not have to worry about such things. I personally find no real NEED to swear while talking about these games on this list. Happy Gaming Anne W (sighted audio gamer) - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason! > Hi, > I do partially agree with Thomas; although it isn't nearly as high as > the > F > word, some people would consider that offensive. > Best Regards, > Hayden > > -Original Message- > From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] > On Behalf Of Thomas Ward > Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 12:49 PM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer > Jason! > > Hi Muhammed and all, > This is a moderator reminder to watch your language on list. The list > guidelines state there is to be no cussing on list. This is my final > warning. Future e-mails with inappropriate language will result in the > offending party being moderated until further notice. > > Cheers! > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your > subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2743 - Release Date: 03/12/10 23:33:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason!
Yup have to say I think when you see words like crap used on this list it makes messages like this seem laughable. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: 13 March 2010 20:42 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason! I agree with you, but we aren't the list mods. Better not to push the boundaries in this situation. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: "Stephen" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason! > Sorry Thomas but I'm afraid I have to disagree with you, I dont think > the > h word is a curse word, and it's nowhere up there with the f bomb. > At 05:48 AM 14/03/2010, you wrote: >>Hi Muhammed and all, >>This is a moderator reminder to watch your language on list. The list >>guidelines state there is to be no cussing on list. This is my final >>warning. Future e-mails with inappropriate language will result in the >>offending party being moderated until further notice. >> >>Cheers! >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason!
Hi Muhammed, Regardless if you think the h word is or is not a cuss word there are plenty of people who do find the word offensive. I don't find it very offensive myself, but I know plenty of people who do. Understand Raul and I try to make this list a fun, family oriented, discussion group for people of all ages and religious backgrounds. For that reason we do our best to moderate the list and call attention to situations where the guidelines are not being followed. Since I felt the issue was not that serious I only issued a warning which asked you to stop using that language. As long as you do as I ask we'll get along fine. HTH On 3/13/10, Muhammed Deniz wrote: > Hey Steve, > Yeah, agreed with you. I don't know why Thomas gives us a warning, but it > ain't a swair word at all. If I was a moderator of a blind gaming list for > an example, I wouldn't care about language like this. Off cource I will > care about swair words like the f word, but not the h word. > BTW Thomas, I wasn't cussing Jason and I wouldn't want to ever do that. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason!
Hi, While I might agree with you personally the fact of the matter is that there are some who would find that word offensive. That's why one of the list rules is to refrane from using cuss words that many people find offensive. We could debate what is and is not bad language, but generally most of us already know what words are acceptable in public forums and which are not. Generally the h word is considered offensive so that is why I issued the moderator warning. On 3/13/10, Stephen wrote: > Sorry Thomas but I'm afraid I have to disagree with you, I dont think > the h word is a curse word, and it's nowhere up there with the f bomb. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason!
Hello Muhammed, Stephen, and Hayden Personally, I agree with Thomas 100%. This list is used by children and adults alike and there is no need to swear on it. Besides - the guidelines firmly state that there is to be no swearing and if he considers that word a swear word then there isn't much you or I or anyone can say about it. I would suggest that if you do not agree then maybe you should start your own game talk list and make your own rules/guidelines then you would not have to worry about such things. I personally find no real NEED to swear while talking about these games on this list. Happy Gaming Anne W (sighted audio gamer) - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason! Hi, I do partially agree with Thomas; although it isn't nearly as high as the F word, some people would consider that offensive. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 12:49 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason! Hi Muhammed and all, This is a moderator reminder to watch your language on list. The list guidelines state there is to be no cussing on list. This is my final warning. Future e-mails with inappropriate language will result in the offending party being moderated until further notice. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2743 - Release Date: 03/12/10 23:33:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason!
I agree with you, but we aren't the list mods. Better not to push the boundaries in this situation. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: "Stephen" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason! Sorry Thomas but I'm afraid I have to disagree with you, I dont think the h word is a curse word, and it's nowhere up there with the f bomb. At 05:48 AM 14/03/2010, you wrote: Hi Muhammed and all, This is a moderator reminder to watch your language on list. The list guidelines state there is to be no cussing on list. This is my final warning. Future e-mails with inappropriate language will result in the offending party being moderated until further notice. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason!
Hi, I do partially agree with Thomas; although it isn't nearly as high as the F word, some people would consider that offensive. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 12:49 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason! Hi Muhammed and all, This is a moderator reminder to watch your language on list. The list guidelines state there is to be no cussing on list. This is my final warning. Future e-mails with inappropriate language will result in the offending party being moderated until further notice. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason!
Yea, and there's even a game for the commodore 64 called h--- hole. At 08:12 AM 14/03/2010, you wrote: Hey Steve, Yeah, agreed with you. I don't know why Thomas gives us a warning, but it ain't a swair word at all. If I was a moderator of a blind gaming list for an example, I wouldn't care about language like this. Off cource I will care about swair words like the f word, but not the h word. BTW Thomas, I wasn't cussing Jason and I wouldn't want to ever do that. (snip) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason!
Hey Steve, Yeah, agreed with you. I don't know why Thomas gives us a warning, but it ain't a swair word at all. If I was a moderator of a blind gaming list for an example, I wouldn't care about language like this. Off cource I will care about swair words like the f word, but not the h word. BTW Thomas, I wasn't cussing Jason and I wouldn't want to ever do that. - Original Message - From: "Stephen" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason! Sorry Thomas but I'm afraid I have to disagree with you, I dont think the h word is a curse word, and it's nowhere up there with the f bomb. At 05:48 AM 14/03/2010, you wrote: Hi Muhammed and all, This is a moderator reminder to watch your language on list. The list guidelines state there is to be no cussing on list. This is my final warning. Future e-mails with inappropriate language will result in the offending party being moderated until further notice. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Warning was your the best developer Jason!
Sorry Thomas but I'm afraid I have to disagree with you, I dont think the h word is a curse word, and it's nowhere up there with the f bomb. At 05:48 AM 14/03/2010, you wrote: Hi Muhammed and all, This is a moderator reminder to watch your language on list. The list guidelines state there is to be no cussing on list. This is my final warning. Future e-mails with inappropriate language will result in the offending party being moderated until further notice. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
