subject:"RE\: \[gecko\]GGA Forum \& Website"

Thank you, Chuck, for pointing out to all of us: (including the tyrant bitch
pardon my language Leann) time to act the board members we are.

 

The GGA represents everyone in the gecko world:  Leann (writer of the
Idiots Guide to Phelsuma), Hervé (French gecko keeper), Repashy, Seipp and
Chris Mackey (first time gecko keeper).  The GGA is about all of them.

 

As board members, when we represent GGA, we have to put down the swords and
welcome any gecko enthusiast.  

 

Jon and Julie, appear to have put away their differences and seem to be
working harmoniously.  It doesn't matter what they thought of each other
four weeks ago or today, any gecko person looking in from the outside may
simply believe they are two gecko people working on the GGA board.   

 

That is they way it should be.

 

God bless you Hervé, you are opinionated, crass, charming, enthusiastic but
sometimes very unreasonable.  I am not giving up on youor caving in to you.
.or Chuck, or Neil, or Jon, or Julie, or anyone!

 

Boards are not yes or no groups, or black and white about a topic, or
set in one view.  Boards are about negations, working things out, doing for
the best for the greater number, never forgetting the minority.  

 

When I brought up a money hole I hoped I was acting like a treasurer and
not the bossy Leann.  I'll try to be more even handed with my words. My
sledge hammer is put away.  

 

I've made apologies to most all involved in the famous letter.  My
behavior was terrible.  I am here now to do the best I can, with everyone
else, to make GGA work.

 

I don't know Repashy personally.  It's anyone guess how I feel about his
products.  But as a GGA Board member, I want his $32 membership and all his
friend's memberships.  He must be well known if the name Repashy makes some
people mad and others happy.  As a GGA rep, I am here to welcome him.

 

War is over, friends.  Time to work.

 

Cookies at my house at 8:00 pm.

 

Leann

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Hervé Saint Dizier
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:25 PM
To: mailing list GGA
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

 

If being part of the hobby means to agree on producing willingly
genetically deficient animals with genetic diseases such as albinism or
man-created genes (I bet you have heard of the enigma gene causing awful
damage to leopard geckos- check on Youtube for very clear videos about the
effects of such a gene), just to make money on the back of geckos which end
up with multiple toes and severe degenerescence issues, then I'm not into
the hobby. It's not a matter of liking something or not; Chuck, as a
scientist, you know it is just the objective truth. Anyway, let's stick to
the real debate.

 

Best,

 

Hervé


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From: powe...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 20:42:12 -0700


Hervé,

 

No offense is ment and I'm taking this to you personally.  I don't think the
statement below should be expressed to the GGA board.  The GGA is here for
the entire gecko community accomplished breeders and newbe's.  Lots of
people here in the US use it and at least one of the board members sells it.
It makes you should like a gecko snob and I don't think that's the face we
want to show the gecko community.  

 

Making money with geckos by breeding designer morphs is just part of the
hobby - like it or not.  

 

Best,

 

Chuck

Charles  Barbara Powell
American Dendrobatid Group
www.frogday.org

--- On Sun, 3/27/11, Hervé Saint Dizier hsaintdiz...@hotmail.com wrote:


From: Hervé Saint Dizier hsaintdiz...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website
To: mailing list GGA gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 7:16 PM

 

Repashy? Hahahaha. Most qualified and advanced breeders will tell you his
products are not  good to feed geckos, and that he is making the worse
things ever in the Rhacodactylus genus with his crazy high end race to
make money on genetically deficient animals. Noobs may find it interesting
to feed a gecko just like they would feed their dog, but it is not so
simple. Ask Willi Henkel, Robert Seipp, Jon or other people with many years
of experience on Rhacs and you'll see things under a totally different
angle.

RE: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

Just as a suggestion:  If the old GGA site is to be maintained due to the
traffic that gets there, perhaps just a tab on the site for the new forum
should be installed in a manner where it is plainly visible.

 

 

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Leann Christenson
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 7:08 AM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

 

FORUM

Communicating the existence of the GGA Forum to a FEW folks  is beneficial,
Melody and Elizabeth being ideal.

 

With a few people looking it over, we can get an idea of adjustments, things
that are great, etc.  Hervé can move forward.

 

The banner on the GGA website - is that a good possibility?

 

WEBSITE

Having the OLD website with information  and content up to date gives a
new webmaster/web designer something to work from.  

 

Brittney's main complaint was a lack of input from Board members.  

 

Her efforts were taken from the old Website.  Pretty much this is how most
all web designers start - working from what exists.  

 

Updating INFORMATION on the old/current website is very, very beneficial.  

 

Potential members have correct information, past members see effort from the
board.

 

Based on that, I will keep getting bits of the OLD website current.to our
benefit.

 

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Hervé Saint Dizier
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 10:45 PM
To: mailing list GGA
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum

 

Hi Julie,

 

Yes, the GGA banner should be re-worked using vectors but I don't have any
software doing that, so the idea is most welcome! Just send me the final
version whenever it's ready.

Melody was on the list when I posted the link to the forum, as for Elizabeth
I have never denied I had contacts with her (not about the GGA, more like a
gecko penfriend) so I simply asked her to open an account and tell me her
opinion, as she has experience with forums too.

Trust me as I have plans in mind for all the Internet side of the GGA, it's
just a matter of time, I wouldn't worry in terms of huge delays or
feasability of such or such thing. Personal thought: we might waste energy
on trying to make a patchwork with operational and non-operational parts
with the old website, but I tend to think something brand new is way better
than a piece of old torn cloth with too much repairs on it ;) I'm nearly a
noob with html but with phpBB1 or 2 that's another story ;)

 

With all due respect,

 

Hervé


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 From: gec...@cal.net
 To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
 Subject: [gecko]GGA Forum
 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:36:35 -0700
 
 Herve, I did not realize the forums were open (I've seen Melody and 
 Elizabeth Freer on there posting), can we hold off on telling folks 
 about it for now until we have all had a chance to check it out and give 
 some feedback on it?
 
 I don't know if anyone else that has looked on the forum noticed but the 
 GGA banner at the top is pixelated a fair amount for me, can we use a 
 higher quality graphic? I can ask my other half to work on that if you 
 like.
 
 Looks like a great start for a forum in general, good work Herve!
 
 Best,
 
 Julie
 
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 Serving the gecko community since 1993
 
 ___
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 Board of Directors
 http://www.gekkota.com

RE: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

 As pitiful as it is, the GGA website is a heavily trafficed site.
Statistics say it's one of the top Google and yahoo referals for geckos.
It's been there for so long.  It's was set up very well for webbots to find.


 

I wonder what people refer to for?  There is very little info., resources,
updated stuff, etc.  


Perhaps the original site can be maintained independently, but IMHO needs to
be completely rebuilt.  It is not only outdated, but looks even more so than
it actually is.

 

Jon

 

 

 

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Julie Bergman
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 2:50 PM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: Re: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

 

Agree, a popular website domain is like gold! Mine is much the same way,
just wanted to air this out with other folks so mine wasn't the only
viewpoint represented on this. 

Non-established domains say fly by night, this is another reason for
keeping our established domain name. 

Now it is our challenge to turn that traffic into members, and if not
members a mechanism for funding through the bookstore for those seeking info
sources about geckos. The free information there also helps fulfill our
mission and generates good will in the community. That is where the energy
should be re-focused that is going to Chit Chat now IMHO.

Julie

On 3/27/2011 12:21 PM, Leann Christenson wrote: 

A forum = place to share ideas, chat, discuss
 
A website = central location on the web for information about a
group/company.  Search engines look for websites.
 
Just like Repashy Super Food there are two parts.  One is Repashy's website.
The second part is the forum. They link.
 
www.store.repashy.com  www.forum.rephasy.com  They are linked.
 
Putting all the GGA Website content onto the forum and dropping the website
= does not make sense.
 
Note:  the domain name gekkota.com is paid up for five years.
 
As pitiful as it is, the GGA website is a heavily trafficed site.
Statistics say it's one of the top Google and yahoo referals for geckos.
It's been there for so long.  It's was set up very well for webbots to find.

 





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Serving the gecko community since 1993

RE: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

Sounds good, Jon.  How about all the board members visit the GGA forum and
post approval, comments (or say nay - informal vote), then a link can be put
on the website?  There is already a page on the GGA web for forum
information and link.

http://www.gekkota.com/html/listserve.html

 

 

BTY - Gekko 6.1 is now on the GGA website.  

http://www.gekkota.com/

http://www.gekkota.com/html/book_store.html

 

Leann

 

 

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Jon  Stacy Boone
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 10:20 AM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

 

Just as a suggestion:  If the old GGA site is to be maintained due to the
traffic that gets there, perhaps just a tab on the site for the new forum
should be installed in a manner where it is plainly visible.

 

 

 

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Leann Christenson
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 7:08 AM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

 

FORUM

Communicating the existence of the GGA Forum to a FEW folks  is beneficial,
Melody and Elizabeth being ideal.

 

With a few people looking it over, we can get an idea of adjustments, things
that are great, etc.  Hervé can move forward.

 

The banner on the GGA website - is that a good possibility?

 

WEBSITE

Having the OLD website with information  and content up to date gives a
new webmaster/web designer something to work from.  

 

Brittney's main complaint was a lack of input from Board members.  

 

Her efforts were taken from the old Website.  Pretty much this is how most
all web designers start - working from what exists.  

 

Updating INFORMATION on the old/current website is very, very beneficial.  

 

Potential members have correct information, past members see effort from the
board.

 

Based on that, I will keep getting bits of the OLD website current.to our
benefit.

Re: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

I refer people to the bookstore, to membership and to the gecko photos
for ID questions.

Julie

On 3/28/2011 8:31 AM, Jon Stacy Boone wrote:

As pitiful as it is, the GGA website is a heavily trafficed site. Statistics say
it's one of the top Google and yahoo referals for geckos. It's been there for so
long. It's was set up very well for webbots to find.

I wonder what people refer to for? There is very little info.,
resources, updated stuff, etc.

Perhaps the original site can be maintained independently, but IMHO
needs to be completely rebuilt. It is not only outdated, but looks
even more so than it actually is.

Jon

*From:*gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com
[mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com] *On Behalf Of *Julie Bergman

*Sent:* Sunday, March 27, 2011 2:50 PM
*To:* gecko@lists.gekkota.com
*Subject:* Re: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

Agree, a popular website domain is like gold! Mine is much the same
way, just wanted to air this out with other folks so mine wasn't the
only viewpoint represented on this.

Non-established domains say fly by night, this is another reason for
keeping our established domain name.

Now it is our challenge to turn that traffic into members, and if not
members a mechanism for funding through the bookstore for those
seeking info sources about geckos. The free information there also
helps fulfill our mission and generates good will in the community.
That is where the energy should be re-focused that is going to Chit
Chat now IMHO.

Julie

On 3/27/2011 12:21 PM, Leann Christenson wrote:

A forum = place to share ideas, chat, discuss

A website = central location on the web for information about a group/company. Search engines look for websites.

Just like Repashy Super Food there are two parts. One is Repashy's website. The second part is the forum. They link.

www.store.repashy.com http://www.store.repashy.comwww.forum.rephasy.com http://www.forum.rephasy.com They are linked.

Putting all the GGA Website content onto the forum and dropping the website = does not make sense.

Note: the domain name gekkota.com is paid up for five years.

As pitiful as it is, the GGA website is a heavily trafficed site. Statistics say it's one of the top Google and yahoo referals for geckos. It's been there for so long. It's was set up very well for webbots to find.

--
www.geckoranch.com http://www.geckoranch.com
Serving the gecko community since 1993

--
www.geckoranch.com
Serving the gecko community since 1993

Re: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

Some more people have registered (I get notifications) for the forums so 
the horse is out of the barn on this one! Please everyone get on there 
and check it out as soon as you can.


Thank you for getting 6.1 up on the website front page, very cool!

Julie

On 3/28/2011 8:33 AM, Leann Christenson wrote:


Sounds good, Jon.  How about all the board members visit the GGA forum 
and post approval, comments (or say nay - informal vote), then a link 
can be put on the website?  There is already a page on the GGA web for 
forum information and link.


http://www.gekkota.com/html/listserve.html

BTY - Gekko 6.1 is now on the GGA website.

http://www.gekkota.com/

http://www.gekkota.com/html/book_store.html

Leann

*From:*gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com 
[mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon  Stacy Boone

*Sent:* Monday, March 28, 2011 10:20 AM
*To:* gecko@lists.gekkota.com
*Subject:* RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

Just as a suggestion:  If the old GGA site is to be maintained due to 
the traffic that gets there, perhaps just a tab on the site for the 
new forum should be installed in a manner where it is plainly visible.


*From:*gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com 
[mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com] *On Behalf Of *Leann Christenson

*Sent:* Sunday, March 27, 2011 7:08 AM
*To:* gecko@lists.gekkota.com
*Subject:* RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

FORUM

Communicating the existence of the GGA Forum to a FEW folks  is 
beneficial, Melody and Elizabeth being ideal.


With a few people looking it over, we can get an idea of adjustments, 
things that are great, etc.  Hervé can move forward.


The banner on the GGA website - is that a good possibility?

WEBSITE

Having the OLD website with information  and content up to date 
gives a new webmaster/web designer something to work from.


Brittney's main complaint was a lack of input from Board members.

Her efforts were taken from the old Website.  Pretty much this is how 
most all web designers start - working from what exists.


Updating INFORMATION on the old/current website is very, very beneficial.

Potential members have correct information, past members see effort 
from the board.


Based on that, I will keep getting bits of the OLD website 
currentto our benefit.





--
www.geckoranch.com
Serving the gecko community since 1993

Re: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

2011-03-28 Thread Melody Hartley

Hi all, especially Julie I think...

I would like to see the statistics for the website, especially if we
have kept a history. I have trouble believing it is a heavily
trafficked site now, but I could be wrong. It would also give us a
background and something to aim for in getting more traffic with an
updated site, which often translates into new members = $$. Just like
the money, it's best to know just where we stand.

Thanks,
Melody

On 3/28/2011 7:31 AM, Jon Stacy Boone wrote:
As pitiful as it is, the GGA website is a heavily trafficed site. Statistics say it's one of the top Google and yahoo referals for geckos. It's been there for so long. It's was set up very well for webbots to find.

I wonder what people refer to for? There is very little info.,
resources, updated stuff, etc.

Perhaps the original site can be maintained independently, but IMHO
needs to be completely rebuilt. It is not only outdated, but looks
even more so than it actually is.

Jon

*From:*gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com
[mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com] *On Behalf Of *Julie Bergman

*Sent:* Sunday, March 27, 2011 2:50 PM
*To:* gecko@lists.gekkota.com
*Subject:* Re: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

Agree, a popular website domain is like gold! Mine is much the same
way, just wanted to air this out with other folks so mine wasn't the
only viewpoint represented on this.

Non-established domains say fly by night, this is another reason for
keeping our established domain name.

Julie

On 3/27/2011 12:21 PM, Leann Christenson wrote:

A forum = place to share ideas, chat, discuss

A website = central location on the web for information about a group/company. Search engines look for websites.

Just like Repashy Super Food there are two parts. One is Repashy's website. The second part is the forum. They link.

www.store.repashy.com http://www.store.repashy.comwww.forum.rephasy.com http://www.forum.rephasy.com They are linked.

Putting all the GGA Website content onto the forum and dropping the website = does not make sense.

Note: the domain name gekkota.com is paid up for five years.

As pitiful as it is, the GGA website is a heavily trafficed site. Statistics say it's one of the top Google and yahoo referals for geckos. It's been there for so long. It's was set up very well for webbots to find.

--
www.geckoranch.com http://www.geckoranch.com
Serving the gecko community since 1993

___
Global Gecko Association
Board of Directors
http://www.gekkota.com

RE: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

Ive been getting notices too, so assume that Herve must have sent the link
on to other non-board members to have a look.  Id actually prefer not
yanking the membership around, from place to place, and waiting until we
have a near final product before sending in the troops.  Im not even sure
who some of these new registered members are.  Its a bit curious to have
non-board members scrutinizing our ideas before we even find agreement on
them ourselves.

 

Jon

 

 

 

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Julie Bergman
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:07 PM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: Re: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

 

Some more people have registered (I get notifications) for the forums so the
horse is out of the barn on this one! Please everyone get on there and check
it out as soon as you can. 

Thank you for getting 6.1 up on the website front page, very cool! 

Julie

On 3/28/2011 8:33 AM, Leann Christenson wrote: 

Sounds good, Jon.  How about all the board members visit the GGA forum and
post approval, comments (or say nay - informal vote), then a link can be put
on the website?  There is already a page on the GGA web for forum
information and link.

http://www.gekkota.com/html/listserve.html

 

 

BTY - Gekko 6.1 is now on the GGA website.  

http://www.gekkota.com/

http://www.gekkota.com/html/book_store.html

 

Leann

 

 

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Jon  Stacy Boone
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 10:20 AM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

 

Just as a suggestion:  If the old GGA site is to be maintained due to the
traffic that gets there, perhaps just a tab on the site for the new forum
should be installed in a manner where it is plainly visible.

 

 

 

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Leann Christenson
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 7:08 AM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

 

FORUM

Communicating the existence of the GGA Forum to a FEW folks  is beneficial,
Melody and Elizabeth being ideal.

 

With a few people looking it over, we can get an idea of adjustments, things
that are great, etc.  Hervé can move forward.

 

The banner on the GGA website - is that a good possibility?

 

WEBSITE

Having the OLD website with information  and content up to date gives a
new webmaster/web designer something to work from.  

 

Brittney's main complaint was a lack of input from Board members.  

 

Her efforts were taken from the old Website.  Pretty much this is how most
all web designers start - working from what exists.  

 

Updating INFORMATION on the old/current website is very, very beneficial.  

 

Potential members have correct information, past members see effort from the
board.

 

Based on that, I will keep getting bits of the OLD website current.to our
benefit.

 






-- 
www.geckoranch.com
Serving the gecko community since 1993

Re: [gecko]GGA Forum Website


Melody and all,

I see nothing wrong with a new version of the website using the 
www.gekkota.com domain. Make a new website, move it there. I don't see 
the issue since this domain is paid for for the next five years and the 
traffic is already there (I'm sure Leann will provide some reports). 
Website hosts, maybe there is a cheaper one that would fit our needs, we 
could also consider that too.


I agree we need to give the members their best value with the website, 
forums and all aspects of what we do with their funds.


I am wondering if the new forums are free no matter how many megs we put 
on there? Any size limits there Herve?


Julie

On 3/28/2011 11:14 AM, Melody Hartley wrote:

Hi all, especially Julie I think...

I would like to see the statistics for the website, especially if we 
have kept a history.  I have trouble believing it is a heavily 
trafficked site now, but I could be wrong.  It would also give us a 
background and something to aim for in getting more traffic with an 
updated site, which often translates into new members = $$.  Just like 
the money, it's best to know just where we stand.


Thanks,
Melody

On 3/28/2011 7:31 AM, Jon  Stacy Boone wrote:
  As pitiful as it is, the GGA website is a heavily trafficed 
site.  Statistics say it's one of the top Google and yahoo referals 
for geckos.   It's been there for so long.  It's was set up very 
well for webbots to find.
I wonder what people refer to for?  There is very little info., 
resources, updated stuff, etc.



Perhaps the original site can be maintained independently, but IMHO 
needs to be completely rebuilt.  It is not only outdated, but looks 
even more so than it actually is.


Jon

*From:*gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com 
[mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com] *On Behalf Of *Julie Bergman

*Sent:* Sunday, March 27, 2011 2:50 PM
*To:* gecko@lists.gekkota.com
*Subject:* Re: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

Agree, a popular website domain is like gold! Mine is much the same 
way, just wanted to air this out with other folks so mine wasn't the 
only viewpoint represented on this.


Non-established domains say fly by night, this is another reason 
for keeping our established domain name.


Now it is our challenge to turn that traffic into members, and if not 
members a mechanism for funding through the bookstore for those 
seeking info sources about geckos. The free information there also 
helps fulfill our mission and generates good will in the community. 
That is where the energy should be re-focused that is going to Chit 
Chat now IMHO.


Julie

On 3/27/2011 12:21 PM, Leann Christenson wrote:

A forum = place to share ideas, chat, discussA website = 
central location on the web for information about a group/company.  
Search engines look for websites.Just like Repashy Super Food 
there are two parts.  One is Repashy's website.  The second part is 
the forum. They link.www.store.repashy.com 
http://www.store.repashy.com   www.forum.rephasy.com 
http://www.forum.rephasy.com   They are linked.Putting all 
the GGA Website content onto the forum and dropping the website = 
does not make sense.Note:  the domain name gekkota.com is 
paid up for five years.As pitiful as it is, the GGA website 
is a heavily trafficed site.  Statistics say it's one of the top 
Google and yahoo referals for geckos.   It's been there for so 
long.  It's was set up very well for webbots to find.



--
www.geckoranch.com http://www.geckoranch.com   Serving the gecko 
community since 1993

___
Global Gecko Association
Board of Directors
http://www.gekkota.com




--
www.geckoranch.com
Serving the gecko community since 1993

___
Global Gecko Association
Board of Directors
http://www.gekkota.com

RE: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

 As pitiful as it is, the GGA website is a heavily trafficed site.
Statistics say it's one of the top Google and yahoo referals for geckos.
It's been there for so long.  It's was set up very well for webbots to find.


 

I wonder what people refer to for?  The Webhost keeps data on traffic to the
GGA site.  People search for gecko and geckos.  There is very little
info., resources, updated stuff, etc.  You are right,  The care sheet are
often copied by other sites.


Perhaps the original site can be maintained independently, but IMHO needs to
be completely rebuilt.  It does!  It is not only outdated, but looks even
more so than it actually is.

You all get the new website rebuilt.  In the meanwhile, I can at least keep
the current site a little more up to date (like putting Chit Chat 6.1 on so
it can be sold in the bookstore).  The GGA depends on those bookstore sales
a lot!  The GGA is still getting new memberships from the membership page.

 

Leann

 

 

 

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Julie Bergman
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 2:50 PM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: Re: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

 

Agree, a popular website domain is like gold! Mine is much the same way,
just wanted to air this out with other folks so mine wasn't the only
viewpoint represented on this. 

Non-established domains say fly by night, this is another reason for
keeping our established domain name. 

Now it is our challenge to turn that traffic into members, and if not
members a mechanism for funding through the bookstore for those seeking info
sources about geckos. The free information there also helps fulfill our
mission and generates good will in the community. That is where the energy
should be re-focused that is going to Chit Chat now IMHO.

Julie

On 3/27/2011 12:21 PM, Leann Christenson wrote: 

A forum = place to share ideas, chat, discuss
 
A website = central location on the web for information about a
group/company.  Search engines look for websites.
 
Just like Repashy Super Food there are two parts.  One is Repashy's website.
The second part is the forum. They link.
 
www.store.repashy.com  www.forum.rephasy.com  They are linked.
 
Putting all the GGA Website content onto the forum and dropping the website
= does not make sense.
 
Note:  the domain name gekkota.com is paid up for five years.
 
As pitiful as it is, the GGA website is a heavily trafficed site.
Statistics say it's one of the top Google and yahoo referals for geckos.
It's been there for so long.  It's was set up very well for webbots to find.

 

 

-- 
www.geckoranch.com
Serving the gecko community since 1993

RE: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

When I get some time (no kidding) I can pull some of those stats.  They are
very interesting.

Sorry I don't have the time right away.  Hungry geckos

Leann

-Original Message-
From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Melody Hartley
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 1:14 PM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: Re: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

Hi all, especially Julie I think...

I would like to see the statistics for the website, especially if we 
have kept a history.  I have trouble believing it is a heavily 
trafficked site now, but I could be wrong.  It would also give us a 
background and something to aim for in getting more traffic with an 
updated site, which often translates into new members = $$.  Just like 
the money, it's best to know just where we stand.

Thanks,
Melody

On 3/28/2011 7:31 AM, Jon  Stacy Boone wrote:
   As pitiful as it is, the GGA website is a heavily trafficed site.
Statistics say it's one of the top Google and yahoo referals for geckos.
It's been there for so long.  It's was set up very well for webbots to find.


 I wonder what people refer to for?  There is very little info., 
 resources, updated stuff, etc.


 Perhaps the original site can be maintained independently, but IMHO 
 needs to be completely rebuilt.  It is not only outdated, but looks 
 even more so than it actually is.

 Jon

 *From:*gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com 
 [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com] *On Behalf Of *Julie Bergman
 *Sent:* Sunday, March 27, 2011 2:50 PM
 *To:* gecko@lists.gekkota.com
 *Subject:* Re: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

 Agree, a popular website domain is like gold! Mine is much the same 
 way, just wanted to air this out with other folks so mine wasn't the 
 only viewpoint represented on this.

 Non-established domains say fly by night, this is another reason for 
 keeping our established domain name.

 Now it is our challenge to turn that traffic into members, and if not 
 members a mechanism for funding through the bookstore for those 
 seeking info sources about geckos. The free information there also 
 helps fulfill our mission and generates good will in the community. 
 That is where the energy should be re-focused that is going to Chit 
 Chat now IMHO.

 Julie

 On 3/27/2011 12:21 PM, Leann Christenson wrote:

 A forum = place to share ideas, chat, discuss   
  
 A website = central location on the web for information about a
group/company.  Search engines look for websites.   
  
 Just like Repashy Super Food there are two parts.  One is Repashy's
website.  The second part is the forum. They link.   
  
 www.store.repashy.com  http://www.store.repashy.com  
www.forum.rephasy.com  http://www.forum.rephasy.com   They are linked.   
  
 Putting all the GGA Website content onto the forum and dropping the
website = does not make sense.   
  
 Note:  the domain name gekkota.com is paid up for five years.   
  
 As pitiful as it is, the GGA website is a heavily trafficed site.
Statistics say it's one of the top Google and yahoo referals for geckos.
It's been there for so long.  It's was set up very well for webbots to find.

  



 --
 www.geckoranch.com  http://www.geckoranch.com   
 Serving the gecko community since 1993
___
Global Gecko Association
Board of Directors
http://www.gekkota.com


___
Global Gecko Association
Board of Directors
http://www.gekkota.com

RE: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

Herve can get a list of people on the Forum.  I looked this morning and it
was nearly all GGA board members.

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Jon  Stacy Boone
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:15 PM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

Ive been getting notices too, so assume that Herve must have sent the link
on to other non-board members to have a look.  Id actually prefer not
yanking the membership around, from place to place, and waiting until we
have a near final product before sending in the troops.  Im not even sure
who some of these new registered members are.  Its a bit curious to have
non-board members scrutinizing our ideas before we even find agreement on
them ourselves.

Jon

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Julie Bergman
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:07 PM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: Re: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

Some more people have registered (I get notifications) for the forums so the
horse is out of the barn on this one! Please everyone get on there and check
it out as soon as you can. 

Thank you for getting 6.1 up on the website front page, very cool! 

Julie

On 3/28/2011 8:33 AM, Leann Christenson wrote: 

Sounds good, Jon.  How about all the board members visit the GGA forum and
post approval, comments (or say nay - informal vote), then a link can be put
on the website?  There is already a page on the GGA web for forum
information and link.

http://www.gekkota.com/html/listserve.html

BTY - Gekko 6.1 is now on the GGA website.  

http://www.gekkota.com/

http://www.gekkota.com/html/book_store.html

Leann

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Jon  Stacy Boone
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 10:20 AM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

Just as a suggestion:  If the old GGA site is to be maintained due to the
traffic that gets there, perhaps just a tab on the site for the new forum
should be installed in a manner where it is plainly visible.

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Leann Christenson
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 7:08 AM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

FORUM

Communicating the existence of the GGA Forum to a FEW folks  is beneficial,
Melody and Elizabeth being ideal.

With a few people looking it over, we can get an idea of adjustments, things
that are great, etc.  Hervé can move forward.

The banner on the GGA website - is that a good possibility?

WEBSITE

Having the OLD website with information  and content up to date gives a
new webmaster/web designer something to work from.  

Brittney's main complaint was a lack of input from Board members.  

Her efforts were taken from the old Website.  Pretty much this is how most
all web designers start - working from what exists.  

Updating INFORMATION on the old/current website is very, very beneficial.  

Potential members have correct information, past members see effort from the
board.

Based on that, I will keep getting bits of the OLD website current.to our
benefit.

-- 
www.geckoranch.com
Serving the gecko community since 1993

Re: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

2011-03-28 Thread Powell's

One thing I would suggest in the list of genera under each heading do not 
include sp. or spp.,
Best,
Chuck

Charles  Barbara Powell

American Dendrobatid Group

www.frogday.org

--- On Mon, 3/28/11, Melody Hartley mhart...@ix.netcom.com wrote:

From: Melody Hartley mhart...@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Date: Monday, March 28, 2011, 11:29 AM

Hi all,

I am working on proofreading the forum and making minor changes there (per 
Herve's request) but I'm not finished yet.

Melody

On 3/28/2011 7:33 AM, Leann Christenson wrote:
 
 Sounds good, Jon. How about all the board members visit the GGA forum and 
 post approval, comments (or say nay - informal vote), then a link can be put 
 on the website? There is already a page on the GGA web for forum information 
 and link.
 
 http://www.gekkota.com/html/listserve.html
 
 BTY - Gekko 6.1 is now on the GGA website.
 
 http://www.gekkota.com/
 
 http://www.gekkota.com/html/book_store.html
 
 Leann
 
 *From:*gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com] 
 *On Behalf Of *Jon  Stacy Boone
 *Sent:* Monday, March 28, 2011 10:20 AM
 *To:* gecko@lists.gekkota.com
 *Subject:* RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website
 
 Just as a suggestion: If the old GGA site is to be maintained due to the 
 traffic that gets there, perhaps just a tab on the site for the new forum 
 should be installed in a manner where it is plainly visible.
 
 *From:*gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com] 
 *On Behalf Of *Leann Christenson
 *Sent:* Sunday, March 27, 2011 7:08 AM
 *To:* gecko@lists.gekkota.com
 *Subject:* RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website
 
 FORUM
 
 Communicating the existence of the GGA Forum to a FEW folks is beneficial, 
 Melody and Elizabeth being ideal.
 
 With a few people looking it over, we can get an idea of adjustments, things 
 that are great, etc. Hervé can move forward.
 
 The banner on the GGA website - is that a good possibility?
 
 WEBSITE
 
 Having the OLD website with information and content up to date gives a 
 new webmaster/web designer something to work from.
 
 Brittney's main complaint was a lack of input from Board members.
 
 Her efforts were taken from the old Website. Pretty much this is how most all 
 web designers start - working from what exists.
 
 Updating INFORMATION on the old/current website is very, very beneficial.
 
 Potential members have correct information, past members see effort from the 
 board.
 
 Based on that, I will keep getting bits of the OLD website current….to our 
 benefit.
 
___
Global Gecko Association
Board of Directors
http://www.gekkota.com

RE: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

The following members are added to the new forums, and Im not aware of them
being board members:

1.  Graham

2.  Tim

3.  Gex files

 

I got notices this morning with these members asking to be activated.  

 

 

 

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Leann Christenson
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:36 PM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

 

Herve can get a list of people on the Forum.  I looked this morning and it
was nearly all GGA board members.

 

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Jon  Stacy Boone
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:15 PM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

 

Ive been getting notices too, so assume that Herve must have sent the link
on to other non-board members to have a look.  Id actually prefer not
yanking the membership around, from place to place, and waiting until we
have a near final product before sending in the troops.  Im not even sure
who some of these new registered members are.  Its a bit curious to have
non-board members scrutinizing our ideas before we even find agreement on
them ourselves.

 

Jon

 

 

 

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Julie Bergman
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:07 PM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: Re: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

 

Some more people have registered (I get notifications) for the forums so the
horse is out of the barn on this one! Please everyone get on there and check
it out as soon as you can. 

Thank you for getting 6.1 up on the website front page, very cool! 

Julie

On 3/28/2011 8:33 AM, Leann Christenson wrote: 

Sounds good, Jon.  How about all the board members visit the GGA forum and
post approval, comments (or say nay - informal vote), then a link can be put
on the website?  There is already a page on the GGA web for forum
information and link.

http://www.gekkota.com/html/listserve.html

 

 

BTY - Gekko 6.1 is now on the GGA website.  

http://www.gekkota.com/

http://www.gekkota.com/html/book_store.html

 

Leann

 

 

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Jon  Stacy Boone
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 10:20 AM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

 

Just as a suggestion:  If the old GGA site is to be maintained due to the
traffic that gets there, perhaps just a tab on the site for the new forum
should be installed in a manner where it is plainly visible.

 

 

 

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Leann Christenson
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 7:08 AM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

 

FORUM

Communicating the existence of the GGA Forum to a FEW folks  is beneficial,
Melody and Elizabeth being ideal.

 

With a few people looking it over, we can get an idea of adjustments, things
that are great, etc.  Hervé can move forward.

 

The banner on the GGA website - is that a good possibility?

 

WEBSITE

Having the OLD website with information  and content up to date gives a
new webmaster/web designer something to work from.  

 

Brittney's main complaint was a lack of input from Board members.  

 

Her efforts were taken from the old Website.  Pretty much this is how most
all web designers start - working from what exists.  

 

Updating INFORMATION on the old/current website is very, very beneficial.  

 

Potential members have correct information, past members see effort from the
board.

 

Based on that, I will keep getting bits of the OLD website current.to our
benefit.

 

 

-- 
www.geckoranch.com
Serving the gecko community since 1993

Re: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

I clicked on all these new user links and got Sorry, but this user does 
not exist. Perhaps Herve was doing some testing with dummy accounts and 
deleting them?


Julie

On 3/28/2011 11:10 AM, Jon  Stacy Boone wrote:


The following members are added to the new forums, and I'm not aware 
of them being board members:


1.  Graham

2.  Tim

3.  Gex files

I got notices this morning with these members asking to be activated.

*From:*gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com 
[mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com] *On Behalf Of *Leann Christenson

*Sent:* Monday, March 28, 2011 12:36 PM
*To:* gecko@lists.gekkota.com
*Subject:* RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

Herve can get a list of people on the Forum.  I looked this morning 
and it was nearly all GGA board members.


*From:*gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com 
[mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon  Stacy Boone

*Sent:* Monday, March 28, 2011 12:15 PM
*To:* gecko@lists.gekkota.com
*Subject:* RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

I've been getting notices too, so assume that Herve must have sent the 
link on to other non-board members to have a look.  I'd actually 
prefer not yanking the membership around, from place to place, and 
waiting until we have a near final product before sending in the 
troops.  I'm not even sure who some of these new registered members 
are.  It's a bit curious to have non-board members scrutinizing our 
ideas before we even find agreement on them ourselves.


Jon

*From:*gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com 
[mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com] *On Behalf Of *Julie Bergman

*Sent:* Monday, March 28, 2011 12:07 PM
*To:* gecko@lists.gekkota.com
*Subject:* Re: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

Some more people have registered (I get notifications) for the forums 
so the horse is out of the barn on this one! Please everyone get on 
there and check it out as soon as you can.


Thank you for getting 6.1 up on the website front page, very cool!

Julie

On 3/28/2011 8:33 AM, Leann Christenson wrote:

Sounds good, Jon.  How about all the board members visit the GGA forum 
and post approval, comments (or say nay - informal vote), then a link 
can be put on the website?  There is already a page on the GGA web for 
forum information and link.


http://www.gekkota.com/html/listserve.html

BTY - Gekko 6.1 is now on the GGA website.

http://www.gekkota.com/

http://www.gekkota.com/html/book_store.html

Leann

*From:*gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com 
mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com 
[mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon  Stacy Boone

*Sent:* Monday, March 28, 2011 10:20 AM
*To:* gecko@lists.gekkota.com mailto:gecko@lists.gekkota.com
*Subject:* RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

Just as a suggestion:  If the old GGA site is to be maintained due to 
the traffic that gets there, perhaps just a tab on the site for the 
new forum should be installed in a manner where it is plainly visible.


*From:*gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com 
mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com 
[mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com] *On Behalf Of *Leann Christenson

*Sent:* Sunday, March 27, 2011 7:08 AM
*To:* gecko@lists.gekkota.com mailto:gecko@lists.gekkota.com
*Subject:* RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

FORUM

Communicating the existence of the GGA Forum to a FEW folks  is 
beneficial, Melody and Elizabeth being ideal.


With a few people looking it over, we can get an idea of adjustments, 
things that are great, etc.  Hervé can move forward.


The banner on the GGA website - is that a good possibility?

WEBSITE

Having the OLD website with information  and content up to date 
gives a new webmaster/web designer something to work from.


Brittney's main complaint was a lack of input from Board members.

Her efforts were taken from the old Website.  Pretty much this is how 
most all web designers start - working from what exists.


Updating INFORMATION on the old/current website is very, very beneficial.

Potential members have correct information, past members see effort 
from the board.


Based on that, I will keep getting bits of the OLD website 
currentto our benefit.


--
www.geckoranch.com  http://www.geckoranch.com
Serving the gecko community since 1993



--
www.geckoranch.com
Serving the gecko community since 1993

Re: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

2011-03-28 Thread Melody Hartley


I thought so too -- done already!

On 3/28/2011 10:05 AM, Powell's wrote:
One thing I would suggest in the list of genera under each heading do 
not include sp. or spp.,


Best,

Chuck

Charles  Barbara Powell
American Dendrobatid Group
www.frogday.org

--- On *Mon, 3/28/11, Melody Hartley /mhart...@ix.netcom.com/* wrote:


From: Melody Hartley mhart...@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Date: Monday, March 28, 2011, 11:29 AM

Hi all,

I am working on proofreading the forum and making minor changes
there (per Herve's request) but I'm not finished yet.

Melody

On 3/28/2011 7:33 AM, Leann Christenson wrote:

 Sounds good, Jon. How about all the board members visit the GGA
forum and post approval, comments (or say nay - informal vote),
then a link can be put on the website? There is already a page on
the GGA web for forum information and link.

 http://www.gekkota.com/html/listserve.html

 BTY - Gekko 6.1 is now on the GGA website.

 http://www.gekkota.com/

 http://www.gekkota.com/html/book_store.html

 Leann

 *From:*gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com
/mc/compose?to=gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com
[mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com
/mc/compose?to=gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon
 Stacy Boone
 *Sent:* Monday, March 28, 2011 10:20 AM
 *To:* gecko@lists.gekkota.com
/mc/compose?to=gecko@lists.gekkota.com
 *Subject:* RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

 Just as a suggestion: If the old GGA site is to be maintained
due to the traffic that gets there, perhaps just a tab on the site
for the new forum should be installed in a manner where it is
plainly visible.

 *From:*gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com
/mc/compose?to=gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com
[mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com
/mc/compose?to=gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com] *On Behalf Of
*Leann Christenson
 *Sent:* Sunday, March 27, 2011 7:08 AM
 *To:* gecko@lists.gekkota.com
/mc/compose?to=gecko@lists.gekkota.com
 *Subject:* RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

 FORUM

 Communicating the existence of the GGA Forum to a FEW folks is
beneficial, Melody and Elizabeth being ideal.

 With a few people looking it over, we can get an idea of
adjustments, things that are great, etc. Hervé can move forward.

 The banner on the GGA website - is that a good possibility?

 WEBSITE

 Having the OLD website with information and content up to
date gives a new webmaster/web designer something to work from.

 Brittney's main complaint was a lack of input from Board members.

 Her efforts were taken from the old Website. Pretty much this is
how most all web designers start - working from what exists.

 Updating INFORMATION on the old/current website is very, very
beneficial.

 Potential members have correct information, past members see
effort from the board.

 Based on that, I will keep getting bits of the OLD website
current….to our benefit.

___
Global Gecko Association
Board of Directors
http://www.gekkota.com


___
Global Gecko Association
Board of Directors
http://www.gekkota.com

RE: [gecko]GGA Forum Website - costs explanations

Let me try to illustrate what I think is going on. This is either gonna make
it easier to understand or just confuse everyone.  

The GGA pays Hostway each year for space (gga website), bandwidth, and
features (Board listserve).  
The space holds our website (o=the GGA web at www.gekkota.com):
Space paid by GGA:  
space currently used: O

Britney was making a new website:
NNN

But instead of putting it unpublished on the Hostway site, she put the
unpublished GGA website on her own Host company's space.  Naturally she pays
for that space for her own website and 'volunteered' (whether she was aware
of this or not) to put it on her site until it was done.  Her website, her
forum are all at her host site.

GGA's paid storage space at Hostway went utilized by Britney, for reasons I
don't know. 

(I don't have web building skills or web master skills, but I went to the
GGA Hostway account management and figured out how to do some simple stuff.
I changed the list serve to be used by the Board and I've updated some GGA
pages.)

The unpublished GGA site could have been stored at Hostway.  The unpublished
GGA site, once complete, would simply become published and the old GGA
site would be stored.

Recently, I copied Brittney's entire unpublished GGA website on my hard
drive.  

I am not skilled enough to use her data and incorporate it in the old
website.  But, I can change text in the old website and some pictures.

How do we do a new GGA website?  A skilled web person and create a new GGA
site on their desktop.  The new site can be incorporated into the old one or
simply replace the old one.  Which will they choose to do?  Depends on their
skill levels.

Leann




___
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Board of Directors
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Re: [gecko]GGA Forum Website - costs explanations

2011-03-28 Thread Melody Hartley


Hi all,

I just looked at gekkota.com, though not in great detail.  I don't see 
any reason to abandon the work that has gone into that.  A lot of things 
-- photos, care sheets. sounds, etc., would be the same.  I'm thinking 
it rather needs a makeover or new face, and some things, like 
discussions and classifieds, probably work better on the forum.  But the 
existing website is a good reference tool.  Yes it has broken links, 
text problems, inconsistencies and typos, but those are not that hard to 
fix.  And believe me, as a professional technical writer I know that 
whenever anyone changes ANY text, it needs to be checked again because 
errors have probably been introduced!  So even a new website will have 
these and need them fixed.  I have played around with web pages enough 
to make my own website and help a few friends, and I know basic HTML, 
but I might not know everything that's involved.  But it doesn't look 
that broken to me, and not even that outdated, though it's rather 
plain  -- there are all sorts of websites out there, in all sorts of 
styles.  I also realize that from a web designer's point of view it is 
more interesting and fun to create something new than to do maintenance 
on existing code..


Melody

On 3/28/2011 11:42 AM, Leann Christenson wrote:

Let me try to illustrate what I think is going on. This is either gonna make
it easier to understand or just confuse everyone.

The GGA pays Hostway each year for space (gga website), bandwidth, and
features (Board listserve).
The space holds our website (o=the GGA web at www.gekkota.com):
Space paid by GGA:  
space currently used: O

Britney was making a new website:
NNN

But instead of putting it unpublished on the Hostway site, she put the
unpublished GGA website on her own Host company's space.  Naturally she pays
for that space for her own website and 'volunteered' (whether she was aware
of this or not) to put it on her site until it was done.  Her website, her
forum are all at her host site.

GGA's paid storage space at Hostway went utilized by Britney, for reasons I
don't know.

(I don't have web building skills or web master skills, but I went to the
GGA Hostway account management and figured out how to do some simple stuff.
I changed the list serve to be used by the Board and I've updated some GGA
pages.)

The unpublished GGA site could have been stored at Hostway.  The unpublished
GGA site, once complete, would simply become published and the old GGA
site would be stored.

Recently, I copied Brittney's entire unpublished GGA website on my hard
drive.

I am not skilled enough to use her data and incorporate it in the old
website.  But, I can change text in the old website and some pictures.

How do we do a new GGA website?  A skilled web person and create a new GGA
site on their desktop.  The new site can be incorporated into the old one or
simply replace the old one.  Which will they choose to do?  Depends on their
skill levels.

Leann




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Re: [gecko]GGA Forum Website - costs explanations

I would agree with Melody's assessment. If several of us know HTML we 
could perhaps be assigned different areas to correct mistakes, suggest 
updating, etc. to help out the web team? I can help!


I got Samia's e-mail, I don't understand why we should abandon the 
website we have and why we can't have both. I'm going to address that in 
another post where we can go over her proposal point by point.



Julie

On 3/28/2011 6:19 PM, Melody Hartley wrote:

Hi all,

I just looked at gekkota.com, though not in great detail.  I don't see 
any reason to abandon the work that has gone into that.  A lot of 
things -- photos, care sheets. sounds, etc., would be the same.  I'm 
thinking it rather needs a makeover or new face, and some things, like 
discussions and classifieds, probably work better on the forum.  But 
the existing website is a good reference tool.  Yes it has broken 
links, text problems, inconsistencies and typos, but those are not 
that hard to fix.  And believe me, as a professional technical writer 
I know that whenever anyone changes ANY text, it needs to be checked 
again because errors have probably been introduced!  So even a new 
website will have these and need them fixed.  I have played around 
with web pages enough to make my own website and help a few friends, 
and I know basic HTML, but I might not know everything that's 
involved.  But it doesn't look that broken to me, and not even that 
outdated, though it's rather plain  -- there are all sorts of websites 
out there, in all sorts of styles.  I also realize that from a web 
designer's point of view it is more interesting and fun to create 
something new than to do maintenance on existing code..


Melody

On 3/28/2011 11:42 AM, Leann Christenson wrote:
Let me try to illustrate what I think is going on. This is either 
gonna make

it easier to understand or just confuse everyone.

The GGA pays Hostway each year for space (gga website), bandwidth, and
features (Board listserve).
The space holds our website (o=the GGA web at www.gekkota.com):
Space paid by GGA:  
space currently used: O

Britney was making a new website:
NNN

But instead of putting it unpublished on the Hostway site, she put the
unpublished GGA website on her own Host company's space.  Naturally 
she pays
for that space for her own website and 'volunteered' (whether she was 
aware
of this or not) to put it on her site until it was done.  Her 
website, her

forum are all at her host site.

GGA's paid storage space at Hostway went utilized by Britney, for 
reasons I

don't know.

(I don't have web building skills or web master skills, but I went to 
the
GGA Hostway account management and figured out how to do some simple 
stuff.
I changed the list serve to be used by the Board and I've updated 
some GGA

pages.)

The unpublished GGA site could have been stored at Hostway.  The 
unpublished

GGA site, once complete, would simply become published and the old GGA
site would be stored.

Recently, I copied Brittney's entire unpublished GGA website on my hard
drive.

I am not skilled enough to use her data and incorporate it in the old
website.  But, I can change text in the old website and some pictures.

How do we do a new GGA website?  A skilled web person and create a 
new GGA
site on their desktop.  The new site can be incorporated into the old 
one or
simply replace the old one.  Which will they choose to do?  Depends 
on their

skill levels.

Leann




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http://www.gekkota.com




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Re: [gecko]GGA Forum Website - Samia's proposal


Here's Samia's proposal:


Hello all,

I am Samia from Morocco, and I am 20 years old. I live and study in Rabat.
Hervé talked to me about the GGA issues with having an effective and 
modern interface on the Internet.
We have both discussed and it appears any website in html would take 
months and months to be ready.

The forum is the best option.

I need an explanation of the why.
It is much easier and faster to handle, and I'm ready to become the 
GGA webmaster for this forum,

 if you accept my candidature.
Everything from photos to texts from your old GGA website can be put 
on the forum; I will take care of that.
Hervé will tell me what the exact needs are, but I already know your 
basic needs and it's really no big deal for me.
This next part I am not sure why she would want to be involved with the 
day to day operations, or if that is even appropriate. That seems like a 
good position for a GGA board member or trusted member.
 So I ask to be part of the board administration staff, following 
which Hervé and I, with the others' agreement,
 will choose moderators both from the US and from Europe to ensure a 
control over the forum posts.
 I will need the updated members' lists to activate accounts once the 
forum is ready.
Is it possible to have the e-mail address of each member, and have 
them use it for their registration to the forum?
 That way, I would be able check if any new subscriber is registered 
as a member, and will not accept anybody
else unless the President tells me the person applying for membership 
could be accepted as a forum member.

 Is that OK with you all?
Think we need to discuss this some more. This could probably be done 
using a membership list by a moderator/admin.
I would also be interested to know more about each one of you. I had a 
snake once.

LOL! Nice she has a sense of humor. :)
I am not into geckos at all, but it is easier to work with people when 
you know a bit about who they are, their age, job, etc...
Hervé's idea of a forum is great because the association will not have 
to pay anything for the URL,

 whereas any html website is linked to a paying domain name.
I am waiting for your replies and I am ready to answer any questions 
about me if you feel like it.
 So can we make it official that I am a staff member until a vote 
takes place for the definitive new team?


Greetings from Morocco,

Samia


What is everyone else's evaluation? I think we are still fairly deep in 
working out a game plan for all this to make any commitments at present.


Julie



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RE: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

2011-03-28 Thread Hervé Saint Dizier


Sorry for any inconvenience. I indeed activated Elizabeth Freer as she is a GGA 
member and I am not making it a mystery me and her are gecko friends, avoiding 
to talk about the GGA but exchanging correspondence on geckos, our lives, 
ect...I just thought her opinion would be helpful to me as she is a forum 
moderator, so she knows a bit more than anyone else on the Board about how 
forums work from the inside. By the way, she is just a member, not an admin. 
Sorry for that if that creates uncomfortable feelings to some of you.
Best,
Hervé

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 of the Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com
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reptiles, rongeurs et amphibiens Les Dragons d'Asgard 
http://dragonsdasgard.actifforum.com


  



From: jsbo...@cox.net
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:15:09 -0500




I’ve been getting notices too, so assume that Herve must have sent the link on 
to other non-board members to have a look.  I’d actually prefer not yanking the 
membership around, from place to place, and waiting until we have a near final 
product before sending in the troops.  I’m not even sure who some of these new 
registered members are.  It’s a bit curious to have non-board members 
scrutinizing our ideas before we even find agreement on them ourselves. Jon   
From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com] On 
Behalf Of Julie Bergman
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:07 PM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: Re: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website Some more people have registered (I get 
notifications) for the forums so the horse is out of the barn on this one! 
Please everyone get on there and check it out as soon as you can. 

Thank you for getting 6.1 up on the website front page, very cool! 

Julie

On 3/28/2011 8:33 AM, Leann Christenson wrote: Sounds good, Jon.  How about all 
the board members visit the GGA forum and post approval, comments (or say nay - 
informal vote), then a link can be put on the website?  There is already a page 
on the GGA web for forum information and 
link.http://www.gekkota.com/html/listserve.html  BTY - Gekko 6.1 is now on the 
GGA website.  
http://www.gekkota.com/http://www.gekkota.com/html/book_store.html Leann  From: 
gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf 
Of Jon  Stacy Boone
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 10:20 AM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website Just as a suggestion:  If the old GGA 
site is to be maintained due to the traffic that gets there, perhaps just a tab 
on the site for the new forum should be installed in a manner where it is 
plainly visible.   From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com 
[mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of Leann Christenson
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 7:08 AM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website FORUMCommunicating the existence of the 
GGA Forum to a FEW folks  is beneficial, Melody and Elizabeth being ideal. With 
a few people looking it over, we can get an idea of adjustments, things that 
are great, etc.  Hervé can move forward. The banner on the GGA website - is 
that a good possibility? WEBSITEHaving the OLD website with information  and 
content up to date gives a new webmaster/web designer something to work from. 
  Brittney's main complaint was a lack of input from Board members.   Her 
efforts were taken from the old Website.  Pretty much this is how most all web 
designers start - working from what exists.   Updating INFORMATION on the 
old/current website is very, very beneficial.   Potential members have correct 
information, past members see effort from the board. Based on that, I will keep 
getting bits of the OLD website current….to our benefit. 


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RE: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

I think it's fine to have Elizabeth.  She has and is a trusted GGA member.
As a former board member, I welcome her input.

 

Leann

 

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Hervé Saint Dizier
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 8:38 PM
To: mailing list GGA
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

 

Sorry for any inconvenience. I indeed activated Elizabeth Freer as she is a
GGA member and I am not making it a mystery me and her are gecko friends,
avoiding to talk about the GGA but exchanging correspondence on geckos, our
lives, ect...I just thought her opinion would be helpful to me as she is a
forum moderator, so she knows a bit more than anyone else on the Board about
how forums work from the inside. By the way, she is just a member, not an
admin. Sorry for that if that creates uncomfortable feelings to some of you.

 

Best,

 

Hervé


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http://www.gekkota.com/ 
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d'Asgard http://dragonsdasgard.actifforum.com
http://dragonsdasgard.actifforum.com/ 






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From: jsbo...@cox.net
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:15:09 -0500

Ive been getting notices too, so assume that Herve must have sent the link
on to other non-board members to have a look.  Id actually prefer not
yanking the membership around, from place to place, and waiting until we
have a near final product before sending in the troops.  Im not even sure
who some of these new registered members are.  Its a bit curious to have
non-board members scrutinizing our ideas before we even find agreement on
them ourselves.

 

Jon

 

 

 

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Julie Bergman
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:07 PM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: Re: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

 

Some more people have registered (I get notifications) for the forums so the
horse is out of the barn on this one! Please everyone get on there and check
it out as soon as you can. 

Thank you for getting 6.1 up on the website front page, very cool! 

Julie

On 3/28/2011 8:33 AM, Leann Christenson wrote: 

Sounds good, Jon.  How about all the board members visit the GGA forum and
post approval, comments (or say nay - informal vote), then a link can be put
on the website?  There is already a page on the GGA web for forum
information and link.

http://www.gekkota.com/html/listserve.html

 

 

BTY - Gekko 6.1 is now on the GGA website.  

http://www.gekkota.com/

http://www.gekkota.com/html/book_store.html

 

Leann

 

 

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Jon  Stacy Boone
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 10:20 AM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

 

Just as a suggestion:  If the old GGA site is to be maintained due to the
traffic that gets there, perhaps just a tab on the site for the new forum
should be installed in a manner where it is plainly visible.

 

 

 

From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Leann Christenson
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 7:08 AM
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

 

FORUM

Communicating the existence of the GGA Forum to a FEW folks  is beneficial,
Melody and Elizabeth being ideal.

 

With a few people looking it over, we can get an idea of adjustments, things
that are great, etc.  Hervé can move forward.

 

The banner on the GGA website - is that a good possibility?

 

WEBSITE

Having the OLD website with information  and content up to date gives a
new webmaster/web designer something to work from.  

 

Brittney's main complaint was a lack of input from Board members.  

 

Her efforts were taken from the old Website.  Pretty much this is how most
all web designers start - working from what exists.  

 

Updating INFORMATION on the old/current website is very, very beneficial.  

 

Potential members have correct information, past members see effort from the
board.

 

Based on that, I will keep getting bits of the OLD website current.to our
benefit.

 





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Serving the gecko community since 1993

RE: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

2011-03-28 Thread Hervé Saint Dizier


Sorry, I'm reading messages in the chronological order so forget about my 
previous remark.
Hervé

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 From: le...@daygecko.com
 To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
 Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website
 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:36:54 -0500
 
 When I get some time (no kidding) I can pull some of those stats.  They are
 very interesting.
 
 Sorry I don't have the time right away.  Hungry geckos
 
 Leann
 
 -Original Message-
 From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
 On Behalf Of Melody Hartley
 Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 1:14 PM
 To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
 Subject: Re: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website
 
 Hi all, especially Julie I think...
 
 I would like to see the statistics for the website, especially if we 
 have kept a history.  I have trouble believing it is a heavily 
 trafficked site now, but I could be wrong.  It would also give us a 
 background and something to aim for in getting more traffic with an 
 updated site, which often translates into new members = $$.  Just like 
 the money, it's best to know just where we stand.
 
 Thanks,
 Melody
 
 On 3/28/2011 7:31 AM, Jon  Stacy Boone wrote:
As pitiful as it is, the GGA website is a heavily trafficed site.
 Statistics say it's one of the top Google and yahoo referals for geckos.
 It's been there for so long.  It's was set up very well for webbots to find.
 
 
  I wonder what people refer to for?  There is very little info., 
  resources, updated stuff, etc.
 
 
  Perhaps the original site can be maintained independently, but IMHO 
  needs to be completely rebuilt.  It is not only outdated, but looks 
  even more so than it actually is.
 
  Jon
 
  *From:*gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com 
  [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com] *On Behalf Of *Julie Bergman
  *Sent:* Sunday, March 27, 2011 2:50 PM
  *To:* gecko@lists.gekkota.com
  *Subject:* Re: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website
 
  Agree, a popular website domain is like gold! Mine is much the same 
  way, just wanted to air this out with other folks so mine wasn't the 
  only viewpoint represented on this.
 
  Non-established domains say fly by night, this is another reason for 
  keeping our established domain name.
 
  Now it is our challenge to turn that traffic into members, and if not 
  members a mechanism for funding through the bookstore for those 
  seeking info sources about geckos. The free information there also 
  helps fulfill our mission and generates good will in the community. 
  That is where the energy should be re-focused that is going to Chit 
  Chat now IMHO.
 
  Julie
 
  On 3/27/2011 12:21 PM, Leann Christenson wrote:
 
  A forum = place to share ideas, chat, discuss   
   
  A website = central location on the web for information about a
 group/company.  Search engines look for websites.   
   
  Just like Repashy Super Food there are two parts.  One is Repashy's
 website.  The second part is the forum. They link.   
   
  www.store.repashy.com  http://www.store.repashy.com  
 www.forum.rephasy.com  http://www.forum.rephasy.com   They are linked.   
   
  Putting all the GGA Website content onto the forum and dropping the
 website = does not make sense.   
   
  Note:  the domain name gekkota.com is paid up for five years.   
   
  As pitiful as it is, the GGA website is a heavily trafficed site.
 Statistics say it's one of the top Google and yahoo referals for geckos.
 It's been there for so long.  It's was set up very well for webbots to find.
 
   
 
 
 
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  Serving the gecko community since 1993
 ___
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 Board of Directors
 http://www.gekkota.com
 
 
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 Board of Directors
 http://www.gekkota.com

RE: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

2011-03-28 Thread Hervé Saint Dizier


Sure, no worries.
Hervé

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From: gec...@cal.net
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: Re: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:39:15 -0700



  



  
  
Agreed. Herve, can we not publicize it anymore for now? Thanks.



Julie



On 3/28/2011 10:15 AM, Jon  Stacy Boone wrote:

  
  
  
  
I’ve been getting notices too, so assume that
Herve must have sent the link on to other non-board members
to have a look.  I’d actually prefer not yanking the
membership around, from place to place, and waiting until we
have a near final product before sending in the troops.  I’m
not even sure who some of these new registered members are. 
It’s a bit curious to have non-board members scrutinizing
our ideas before we even find agreement on them ourselves.
 
Jon
 
 
 

  
From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com
[mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com] On Behalf Of
Julie Bergman

Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:07 PM

To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com

Subject: Re: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website
  

 
Some more people have registered (I get
  notifications) for the forums so the horse is out of the barn
  on this one! Please everyone get on there and check it out as
  soon as you can. 

  

  Thank you for getting 6.1 up on the website front page, very
  cool! 

  

  Julie

  

  On 3/28/2011 8:33 AM, Leann Christenson wrote: 
Sounds good, Jon. 
How about all the board members visit the GGA forum and post
approval, comments (or say nay - informal vote), then a link
can be put on the website?  There is already a page on the
GGA web for forum information and link.
http://www.gekkota.com/html/listserve.html
 
 
BTY - Gekko 6.1 is
now on the GGA website.  
http://www.gekkota.com/
http://www.gekkota.com/html/book_store.html
 
Leann
 
 

  
From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com
[mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Jon  Stacy Boone

Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 10:20 AM

To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com

Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website
  

 
Just as a
suggestion:  If the old GGA site is to be maintained due to
the traffic that gets there, perhaps just a tab on the site
for the new forum should be installed in a manner where it
is plainly visible.
 
 
 

  
From: gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com
[mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com]
On Behalf Of Leann Christenson

Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 7:08 AM

To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com

Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website
  

 
FORUM
Communicating the
existence of the GGA Forum to a FEW folks  is beneficial,
Melody and Elizabeth being ideal.
 
With a few people
looking it over, we can get an idea of adjustments, things
that are great, etc.  Hervé can move forward.
 
The banner on the
GGA website - is that a good possibility?
 
WEBSITE
Having the OLD
website with information  and content up to date gives a
new webmaster/web designer something to work from.  
 
Brittney's main
complaint was a lack of input from Board members.  
 
Her efforts were
taken from the old Website.  Pretty much this is how most
all web designers start - working from what exists.  
 
Updating INFORMATION
on the old/current website is very, very beneficial.  
 
Potential members
have correct information, past members see effort from the
board.
 
Based on that, I
will keep getting bits of the OLD website current….to our
benefit.
 


  

  

  
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Serving the gecko community since 1993

RE: [gecko]GGA Forum Website


Julie,
Okay, so please tell us the points you want to be discussed. On my side, things 
are pretty clear.
Best,
Hervé

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 of the Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com
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reptiles, rongeurs et amphibiens Les Dragons d'Asgard 
http://dragonsdasgard.actifforum.com


  



From: gec...@cal.net
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: Re: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:43:27 -0700



  



  
  
Herve and all,



I think there are many different points here that need to be
discussed thoroughly (website domain, how the GGA forums are run,
approval of Samia, etc.) before any motions here. It is very early
in the process to be committing to a plan of action. 



Julie



On 3/27/2011 9:13 AM, Hervé Saint Dizier wrote:

  
  Hi all,
  

  
  Just had Samia on phone a minute ago.
  

  
  She will send the Board a message tomorrow or Tuesday to
offer her help as the future technical admin/webmaster.
  

  
  In all ways, the best solution is to use the old website and
transfer ALL its contents to the forum.
  

  
  By doing this, 1- no domain name to pay for the GGA  2- one
and only one place on the Internet for our members3- a
substantial gain in time as, Samia told me, doing a proper
website with full contents in the html language would take much
longer.
  

  
  I motion we wait for Samia's message then name a team of
moderators who are GGA members. They will have to be GGA members
with enough spare time to ensure a daily presence on the
forum/site. I then motion we give up the old website
progressively so as to have everything we need to be online on 
http://globalgeckogga.positifforum.com/
  

  
  Samia is of course willing to integrate the Board as the
Interim Internet Manager/developper/main administrator.
  

  
  May I have a second?
  

  
  Hervé



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Dragons d'Asgard http://dragonsdasgard.actifforum.com











From: le...@daygecko.com

To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com

Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website

Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:07:38 -0500







  FORUM
  Communicating
  the existence of the GGA Forum to a FEW folks  is
  beneficial, Melody and Elizabeth being ideal.
   
  With
  a few people looking it over, we can get an idea of
  adjustments, things that are great, etc.  Hervé can move
  forward.
   
  The
  banner on the GGA website - is that a good possibility?
   
  WEBSITE
  Having
  the OLD website with information  and
  content up to date gives a new webmaster/web designer
  something to
  work from.  
   
  Brittney's
  main complaint was a lack of input from Board
  members.  
   
  Her
  efforts were taken from the old Website.  Pretty much this
  is how most all web designers start - working from what
  exists.  
   
  Updating
  INFORMATION on the old/current website is very, very
  beneficial.  
   
  Potential
  members have correct information, past members see
  effort from the board.
   
  Based
  on that, I will keep getting bits of the OLD website
  current….to our benefit.
   
  

  From:
  gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com
  [mailto:gecko-ad...@lists.gekkota.com] On
Behalf Of Hervé Saint Dizier

  Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 10:45 PM

  To: mailing list GGA

  Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum

  
   
  Hi
  Julie,
  
 
  
  
Yes,
the GGA banner should be re-worked using vectors but I
don't have any software
doing that, so the idea is most welcome! Just send me
the final version
whenever it's ready.
  
  
Melody
was on the list when I posted

RE: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

2011-03-27 Thread Leann Christenson

A forum = place to share ideas, chat, discuss
 
A website = central location on the web for information about a
group/company.  Search engines look for websites.
 
Just like Repashy Super Food there are two parts.  One is Repashy's website.
The second part is the forum. They link.
 
www.store.repashy.com  www.forum.rephasy.com  They are linked.
 
Putting all the GGA Website content onto the forum and dropping the website
= does not make sense.
 
Note:  the domain name gekkota.com is paid up for five years.
 
As pitiful as it is, the GGA website is a heavily trafficed site.
Statistics say it's one of the top Google and yahoo referals for geckos.
It's been there for so long.  It's was set up very well for webbots to find.

Re: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

2011-03-27 Thread Julie Bergman

Agree, a popular website domain is like gold! Mine is much the same way,
just wanted to air this out with other folks so mine wasn't the only
viewpoint represented on this.

Non-established domains say fly by night, this is another reason for
keeping our established domain name.

Now it is our challenge to turn that traffic into members, and if not
members a mechanism for funding through the bookstore for those seeking
info sources about geckos. The free information there also helps
fulfill our mission and generates good will in the community. That is
where the energy should be re-focused that is going to Chit Chat now IMHO.

Julie

On 3/27/2011 12:21 PM, Leann Christenson wrote:

A forum = place to share ideas, chat, discuss

A website = central location on the web for information about a group/company. Search engines look for websites.

Just like Repashy Super Food there are two parts. One is Repashy's website. The second part is the forum. They link.

www.store.repashy.com http://www.store.repashy.comwww.forum.rephasy.com http://www.forum.rephasy.com They are linked.

Putting all the GGA Website content onto the forum and dropping the website = does not make sense.

Note: the domain name gekkota.com is paid up for five years.

As pitiful as it is, the GGA website is a heavily trafficed site. Statistics say it's one of the top Google and yahoo referals for geckos. It's been there for so long. It's was set up very well for webbots to find.

--
www.geckoranch.com
Serving the gecko community since 1993

RE: [gecko]GGA Forum Website


First Leann, I'm asking you to use a smoother way to say things. You don't have 
to be harsh to expose your point of view. I can be harsh in return, no problem, 
but it's really not in everyone's interest to do so.
How come Brittney said she had to pay a monthly fee from her own pocket for her 
new website? Are you telling me we were paying twice for non-operational 
websites? OMG...
Hey Leann, I know the difference between a forum and a website. The main thing 
is: the programming language is not the same, and the costs are not the same. 
All the rest is bullshit, or just unimportant. 
Can't we get back the money from the website host if we choose to stop using 
it? I guess that would represent a nice sum if they are to refund the fee for a 
5 year period.
Everyone with some habit of websites will tell you that in spite of statistics 
(most of the time, when you Google for a gecko species, you happen to have a GU 
thread as the #1 result- NOT gekkota.com, sorry to say) the old forum as it 
is, even with some improvements, still looks old and hundreds of hours would be 
needed to update it fully.
Forums now have photo galleries, care sheets, portals, a classifieds system- 
that's just everything we need.
Most of the contents of the old gekkota.com website can be transfered into the 
forum quite rapidly. Think twice. It's always easy to criticize something which 
you didn't do yourself, that's another story when it comes to action and moving 
forward. Just think that most pics on gekkota.com are 10, 12 years old. Now 
digital cameras allow a much better quality. That's just an example on how 
outdated gekkota.com is.
Repashy? Hahahaha. Most qualified and advanced breeders will tell you his 
products are not  good to feed geckos, and that he is making the worse things 
ever in the Rhacodactylus genus with his crazy high end race to make money on 
genetically deficient animals. Noobs may find it interesting to feed a gecko 
just like they would feed their dog, but it is not so simple. Ask Willi Henkel, 
Robert Seipp, Jon or other people with many years of experience on Rhacs and 
you'll see things under a totally different angle. 
Anyway, I won't argue with you, Leann. I started a motion, so let's discuss and 
take the right decision altogether. As the future President, Jon has the upper 
hand of what is best for our image or not. He shall be listened at prior to 
anything else. Working on the old website is like wasting time and energy 
unless you start it from scratch. Again, it's like putting a damper on a sick 
entity. Just compare it to GU and see how far we are backwards from them. Not 
saying GU is perfect, but they drain major names in the hobby and have a sort 
of implicit monopole- it's not with a 10-year old website that we will change 
that.
Best and with all due respect to everyone,
Hervé

__
Editor
 of the Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com
Administrateur du forum 
reptiles, rongeurs et amphibiens Les Dragons d'Asgard 
http://dragonsdasgard.actifforum.com


  



From: le...@daygecko.com
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:21:30 -0500
















A forum = place to share ideas, chat, discuss A website = central location on 
the web for information about a group/company.  Search engines look for 
websites. Just like Repashy Super Food there are two parts.  One is Repashy's 
website.  The second part is the forum. They link. www.store.repashy.com  
www.forum.rephasy.com  They are linked. Putting all the GGA Website content 
onto the forum and dropping the website = does not make sense. Note:  the 
domain name gekkota.com is paid up for five years. As pitiful as it is, the GGA 
website is a heavily trafficed site.  Statistics say it's one of the top Google 
and yahoo referals for geckos.   It's been there for so long.  It's was set 
up very well for webbots to find.

RE: [gecko]GGA Forum Website


Just saying that I know full well how to get the best possible ranks on search 
engines and  thematic links web pages.You know, my own forum in France didn't 
become #2 about reptiles and reptile keeping just by divine intervention. It 
takes a few weeks, then once users start to register on it and post on it, we 
climb at full speed in no time. 
Best,
Hervé

__
Editor
 of the Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com
Administrateur du forum 
reptiles, rongeurs et amphibiens Les Dragons d'Asgard 
http://dragonsdasgard.actifforum.com


  



From: gec...@cal.net
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Subject: Re: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:49:35 -0700



  



  
  
Agree, a popular website domain is like gold! Mine is much the same
way, just wanted to air this out with other folks so mine wasn't the
only viewpoint represented on this. 



Non-established domains say fly by night, this is another reason
for keeping our established domain name. 



Now it is our challenge to turn that traffic into members, and if
not members a mechanism for funding through the bookstore for those
seeking info sources about geckos. The free information there also
helps fulfill our mission and generates good will in the community.
That is where the energy should be re-focused that is going to Chit
Chat now IMHO.



Julie



On 3/27/2011 12:21 PM, Leann Christenson wrote:

  
  
  
  

  A forum = place to share ideas, chat, discuss
   
  A website = central location on the web for information about a 
group/company.  Search engines look for websites.
   
  Just like Repashy Super Food there are two parts.  One is Repashy's 
website.  The second part is the forum. They link.
   
  www.store.repashy.com  www.forum.rephasy.com  They are linked.
   
  Putting all the GGA Website content onto the forum and dropping the 
website = does not make sense.
   
  Note:  the domain name gekkota.com is paid up for five years.
   
  As pitiful as it is, the GGA website is a heavily trafficed site.  
Statistics say it's one of the top Google and yahoo referals for geckos.   
It's been there for so long.  It's was set up very well for webbots to find. 
   


  



-- 
www.geckoranch.com
Serving the gecko community since 1993

RE: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

2011-03-27 Thread Powell's

Hervé,
No offense is ment and I'm taking this to you personally.  I don't think the 
statement below should be expressed to the GGA board.  The GGA is here for the 
entire gecko community accomplished breeders and newbe's.  Lots of people here 
in the US use it and at least one of the board members sells it.  It makes you 
should like a gecko snob and I don't think that's the face we want to show the 
gecko community.  
Making money with geckos by breeding designer morphs is just part of the hobby 
- like it or not.  
Best,
Chuck

Charles  Barbara Powell

American Dendrobatid Group

www.frogday.org

--- On Sun, 3/27/11, Hervé Saint Dizier hsaintdiz...@hotmail.com wrote:

From: Hervé Saint Dizier hsaintdiz...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website
To: mailing list GGA gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 7:16 PM





 

Repashy? Hahahaha. Most qualified and advanced breeders will tell you his 
products are not  good to feed geckos, and that he is making the worse things 
ever in the Rhacodactylus genus with his crazy high end race to make money on 
genetically deficient animals. Noobs may find it interesting to feed a gecko 
just like they would feed their dog, but it is not so simple. Ask Willi Henkel, 
Robert Seipp, Jon or other people with many years of experience on Rhacs and 
you'll see things under a totally different angle.

RE: [gecko]GGA Forum Website

2011-03-27 Thread Powell's

My apologies to Herve - very sorry.  I'm not use to the new mailing list.  
Sorry everyone.
Best,
Chuck

Charles  Barbara Powell

American Dendrobatid Group

www.frogday.org

--- On Sun, 3/27/11, Powell's powe...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: Powell's powe...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website
To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 8:42 PM

Hervé,
No offense is ment and I'm taking this to you personally.  I don't think the 
statement below should be expressed to the GGA board.  The GGA is here for the 
entire gecko community accomplished breeders and newbe's.  Lots of people here 
in the US use it and at least one of the board members sells it.  It makes you 
should like a gecko snob and I don't think that's the face we want to show the 
gecko community.  
Making money with geckos by breeding designer morphs is just part of the hobby 
- like it or not.  
Best,
Chuck

Charles  Barbara Powell

American Dendrobatid Group

www.frogday.org

--- On Sun, 3/27/11, Hervé Saint Dizier hsaintdiz...@hotmail.com wrote:

From: Hervé Saint Dizier hsaintdiz...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [gecko]GGA Forum  Website
To: mailing list GGA gecko@lists.gekkota.com
Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 7:16 PM





 

Repashy? Hahahaha. Most qualified and advanced breeders will tell you his 
products are not  good to feed geckos, and that he is making the worse things 
ever in the Rhacodactylus genus with his crazy high end race to make money on 
genetically deficient animals. Noobs may find it interesting to feed a gecko 
just like they would feed their dog, but it is not so simple. Ask Willi Henkel, 
Robert Seipp, Jon or other people with many years of experience on Rhacs and 
you'll see things under a totally different angle.

RE: [gecko]GGA Forum Website