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> hmm. > it could be *you* who organizes the fundraiser. For sure! What I suggested before, which may be different from what was originally proposed, is that the funding supports a developer to develop the software, instead of the funding going towards the (non-existent) Pure Data "company". Examp

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On 2018-05-03 01:10, Antonio Roberts wrote: >>> Back in January and February there was talk of funding development for >>> GEM. Did anything ever come of this? >> >> >> no. > Somehow I'm not surprised but also disappointed :-( > >> Sure, I guess it's up to anyone to pick it up. I'd like to see tha

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>> Back in January and February there was talk of funding development for >> GEM. Did anything ever come of this? > > > no. Somehow I'm not surprised but also disappointed :-( > Sure, I guess it's up to anyone to pick it up. I'd like to see that as I > gave some money to it And so the wait continu

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2018-05-02 9:43 GMT-03:00 Antonio Roberts : > Back in January and February there was talk of funding development for > GEM. Did anything ever come of this? > no. > I know there was discussion of which platform to use but it appears to > have stalled. Any way to pick up the pace again? > Sure,

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Le 29/01/2018 à 16:55, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit : 2018-01-23 17:16 GMT-02:00 cyrille henry mailto:c...@chnry.net>>: I want to go forward, but we need to do things right. And I'm not 100% sure that it's the good time with bountysource. what do other think? Why not go forward?

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2018-01-23 17:16 GMT-02:00 cyrille henry : > > I want to go forward, but we need to do things right. And I'm not 100% > sure that it's the good time with bountysource. > what do other think? Why not go forward? I think this should move on ASAP. I'd like to see my money being used for and part of

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hello, Le 20/01/2018 à 19:21, me.grimm a écrit : so did this one get fixed? looks like someone can claim bounty: https://www.bountysource.com/issues/3303967-any-h-broken-on-osx-64bit right? according to the discussion on the page you send, Antoine test and noticed that it was working, so

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Hey, what's up? I was waiting to see an advertisement of this GEM fund raising thing on facebook, the Pd list and stuff... what's holding it back now? I also just sent an email asking to reallocate my bounty the same way as Antoine Rousseau, let's see, are we really having issues reallocating it?

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so did this one get fixed? looks like someone can claim bounty: https://www.bountysource.com/issues/3303967-any-h-broken-on-osx-64bit right? >> It appear that the website should be changed soon. i mean how much? should we still try to promote and get $$$ for issues? dan has been doing a bunch o

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> > the bounty is still on it's original place hey I saw that, but strangely, mine has been reallocated. I sent on 6/12 to supp...@bountysource.com: subject: reallocate please Hi bountysource people, could you reallocate my bounty, from: https://www.bountysource.com/issues/3383537-w32-build-msv

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Hello, sorry for being unresponsive, The text have been edited multiple time, so I guess it is ok now. but I have a concern about bounty source: I send them a mail about reallocating a bounty I initially post on a deprecated issue. I had no answer and the bounty is still on it's original place.

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>> multiple versions of the text to >>and fro, with nobody keeping track of what changes when so where is this at? once agreed upon we can make announcement, assuming we are still going forward to fund. On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 5:14 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > On 12/12/2017 09:12 PM,

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On 12/12/2017 09:12 PM, Jack wrote: > It could be : [...] before we are going to start sending multiple versions of the text to and fro, with nobody keeping track of what changes when, I've put up the prelaminary test onto an etherpad: https://etherpad.servus.at/p/atoUItMxvV pleas improve th

Re: [GEM-dev] financing Gem development

It could be : Dear Pd and Gem users, Gem is a realtime 3D library for Pd that allows, among other things, images and video processing. So, it depends on OpenGL and various other library to decode images, film, movie etc. Unfortunately, few years ago, Apple decided to remove Quicktime from MacOSX

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hello, So, this is a proposition of mail to announce this bounty. fell free to correct it Dear PD and Gem users, Gem is a Pd library for Pd that allow images and video processing and generation. It depend on OpenGL and various other library to decode images, film, movie etc. Maintaining such

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Since the "any.h brocken" issue have been closed, we have "only" this bounty left. https://www.bountysource.com/issues/4185729-native-film-reading-on-osx-64bit : 2000$ https://www.bountysource.com/issues/4185679-native-video-capturing-on-osx-64bit : 1500$ https://www.bountysource.com/issues/64

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So it seems to be fine with current git. Detailed report on the github issue. Let me know if you need more test. Cheers Antoine -- do it yourself http://antoine.villeret.free.fr 2017-12-06 18:17 GMT+01:00 Antoine Villeret : > hi all, > > I'll try to build the current master from scratch and

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hi all, I'll try to build the current master from scratch and see if there what happen + a -- do it yourself http://antoine.villeret.free.fr 2017-12-06 16:27 GMT+01:00 cyrille henry : > > > Le 05/12/2017 à 18:56, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit : > > i don't currently have access to an OSX system. >

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Le 05/12/2017 à 18:56, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit : i don't currently have access to an OSX system. could somebody confirm that this is actually a problem in the current "master"? It's important to have this information : we will not fund a bounty to debug a bug-free code. I also don't hav

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> > I will do whatever you think it has to sorry, I meant "I will do what you think I should do" OK I understand better... I'll ask bountysource to redirect my bounty to "make-filmds-consistent". Antoine Rousseau http://www.metalu.net __ http://www.metaluachahuter.com/

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On 12/05/2017 10:58 PM, Antoine Rousseau wrote: >> >> Can porres, ant1r and kim do the same? > > > Of course I will do whatever you think it has to, but I don't understand, i'm not sure that *i* understand what you mean by this. > as IOhannes said: > >> you cannot fix any filmDS issues if you

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> > Can porres, ant1r and kim do the same? Of course I will do whatever you think it has to, but I don't understand, as IOhannes said: > you cannot fix any filmDS issues if you don't have a working W32 build > Antoine Rousseau http://www.metalu.net __ http://www.metaluach

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Le 05/12/2017 à 19:54, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit : Can porres, ant1r and kim do the same? I can ;) thanks, and sorry for the inconvenience. ___ GEM-dev mailing list GEM-dev@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev

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2017-12-05 16:49 GMT-02:00 cyrille henry : > > > Le 05/12/2017 à 18:56, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit : > >> On 12/05/2017 06:08 PM, cyrille henry wrote: >> >>> https://www.bountysource.com/issues/3383537-w32-build-msvc >>> >> >> could we undo that? (despite the bountyhunter who already asks for 150€

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Le 05/12/2017 à 18:56, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit : On 12/05/2017 06:08 PM, cyrille henry wrote: https://www.bountysource.com/issues/3383537-w32-build-msvc could we undo that? (despite the bountyhunter who already asks for 150€)? there is 2 way : each bounty contributor can contact the boun

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On 12/05/2017 06:08 PM, cyrille henry wrote: > https://www.bountysource.com/issues/3383537-w32-build-msvc could we undo that? (despite the bountyhunter who already asks for 150€)? > https://www.bountysource.com/issues/3303967-any-h-broken-on-osx-64bit i don't currently have access to an OSX syst

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ok, so I put money on 2 other issues. For now, the most important issues are : https://www.bountysource.com/issues/4185729-native-film-reading-on-osx-64bit https://www.bountysource.com/issues/4185679-native-video-capturing-on-osx-64bit https://www.bountysource.com/issues/6492784-native-image-read

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On 12/05/2017 04:06 PM, cyrille henry wrote: > thanks Iohannes, > > what about the W32 build (both MSVC and minggw)? > should we ask for this build or does "make filmDS consistent #180" will > make things easier on this side? > (Should I ask to move the bounty from the mingW bug to the filmDS issu

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thanks Iohannes, what about the W32 build (both MSVC and minggw)? should we ask for this build or does "make filmDS consistent #180" will make things easier on this side? (Should I ask to move the bounty from the mingW bug to the filmDS issue?) cheers Le 05/12/2017 à 12:04, IOhannes m zmoelni

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On 2017-11-30 19:24, Nicolas Montgermont wrote: > Iohannes is still organizing things concerning the bugs to fix before to > make a release. i've started to mark tickets on github with "help wanted". these are good candidates for funded contributions (esp. when paired with the "release-critical" t

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Le 30/11/2017 à 19:16, William Huston a écrit : Hi, I am an admin of the Pd Facebook group. People have been asking for a sticky-post announcing this funding for GEM development. A poll confirmed this was overwhelming supported. i'm very glad of this support. Can someone give me a SINGL

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Le 30/11/2017 à 18:40, me.grimm a écrit : >> I'm aware that thing moves slowly, but at least they are moving! agree So, don't worry about the money already in the bounty system : it will not be useless. so do we then keep lobbying for bountysouce funding? again, we could have th

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Hello William, Iohannes is still organizing things concerning the bugs to fix before to make a release. So the idea is to wait a bit before to announce the link. You can follow this thread if you want uptodate infos. n http://nimon.org Le 30/11/2017 à 19:16, William Huston a écrit : > Hi, > > I

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Hi, I am an admin of the Pd Facebook group. People have been asking for a sticky-post announcing this funding for GEM development. A poll confirmed this was overwhelming supported. Can someone give me a SINGLE link which is best for the entire project? It should have some narrative about WHO is

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>> I'm aware that thing moves slowly, but at least they are moving! agree >> So, don't worry about the money already in the bounty system : it will not be useless. so do we then keep lobbying for bountysouce funding? again, we could have this pinned on the facebook group (12k subscribers

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hello, sorry for being unresponsive. I don't have lot's of free time. All money put on a bounty can be moved to an other bug, and there are lot's of bugs to fix : https://www.bountysource.com/trackers/1046360-umlaeute-gem So, don't worry about the money already in the bounty system : it will no

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Hi, so, what's up? we already have 385$ thrown at bountysource, ditching it would mean throwing about 40$ in the thrash, plus taxes to paypal... it'd be weird and silly, not to mention a disrespect to some who felt like they wanted to help (I, for one, would feel like that and regretful I helped).

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> and also what might prevent multiple funding sources? Depending on how the money is being used maybe that wouldn't be a bad thing. Using this Patreon as an example https://www.patreon.com/pippin the funding is to support the developer, not necessarily the GIMP software (even though the aforement

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>> And if that's not it, what prevents anyone from sharing this campaign on facebook, the pd list and whatever? and also what might prevent multiple funding sources? On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > > 2017-11-23 7:14 GMT-02:00 cyrille henry : > >> hello, >>

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2017-11-25 13:53 GMT-02:00 Antoine Rousseau : > I personally don't mind to change for an other way if it's worth it. > yeah, I can't say I wouldn't mind it... :/ ___ GEM-dev mailing list GEM-dev@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev

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We can get our money back, if necessary, of course leaving 10% fee to bountysource, plus 3.4% (IMO) to paypal. Anyway I personally don't mind to change for an other way if it's worth it. Antoine Rousseau http://www.metalu.net __ http://www.metaluachahuter.com/

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2017-11-23 7:14 GMT-02:00 cyrille henry : > hello, > I'm in discussion with joe deken from newblankets around an other/better > way to deal with donation. > So maybe we should wait a bit before making a wider announce of this > bounty. > Hi, can you give us some more information about it? I don't

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hello, I'm in discussion with joe deken from newblankets around an other/better way to deal with donation. So maybe we should wait a bit before making a wider announce of this bounty. cheers c Le 22/11/2017 à 21:45, me.grimm a écrit : >> Are these going to be posted in the general pd mailin

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>> Are these going to be posted in the general pd mailing list as well? also i am trying to get a post top pinned to the facebook group. if anyone on gem-dev is on facebook can you add your 2 cents to antonios post? i guess there are 12k facebook pd group subscribers and maybe we can get some of t

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Le 21/11/2017 à 23:04, Jaime Oliver La Rosa a écrit : Sorry, just saw the pages in the email chain. Are these going to be posted in the general pd mailing list as well? as soon as I have time to write a polite and convincing mail! feel free to do it before me! cheers c thanks for your work

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I am getting errors in the bountysource page when trying to pay. I'll try again later with other browsers and report back. error says: {"error":"Internal server error."} best, J On 11/21/2017 05:04 PM, Jaime Oliver La Rosa wrote: Sorry, just saw the pages in the email chain. Are these going to

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Sorry, just saw the pages in the email chain. Are these going to be posted in the general pd mailing list as well? thanks for your work! J On 11/21/2017 04:41 PM, me.grimm wrote: +1 On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 4:22 AM, cyrille henry > wrote: As I said in earlier mai

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+2 Let us know when the donation page is ready in case I missed it.. J On 11/21/2017 04:41 PM, me.grimm wrote: +1 On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 4:22 AM, cyrille henry > wrote: As I said in earlier mail, my aim is (for now) to be able to release a Gem version that i

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+1 On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 4:22 AM, cyrille henry wrote: > As I said in earlier mail, my aim is (for now) to be able to release a Gem > version that incorporate the development made in the last 5 years. > Time is not to add functionalities, but to keep Gem alive. > > Starting new development now

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Le 20/11/2017 à 16:58, Jack a écrit : Or for all platforms ? In vertex processing with have : - vertex shader - geometry shader What about tesselation shader ? can you please add all freature request on Gem github? thx I use Gem a lot so i will be happy to participate financially if that c

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Yes sure ! ++ Jack Le 21/11/2017 à 10:22, cyrille henry a écrit : > As I said in earlier mail, my aim is (for now) to be able to release a > Gem version that incorporate the development made in the last 5 years. > Time is not to add functionalities, but to keep Gem alive. > > Starting new deve

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On 2017-11-21 10:22, cyrille henry wrote: > As I said in earlier mail, my aim is (for now) to be able to release a > Gem version that incorporate the development made in the last 5 years. > Time is not to add functionalities, but to keep Gem alive. > > Starting new development now is, imo, a nonse

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As I said in earlier mail, my aim is (for now) to be able to release a Gem version that incorporate the development made in the last 5 years. Time is not to add functionalities, but to keep Gem alive. Starting new development now is, imo, a nonsense since no release can be done before this 4 ta

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Gem on Linux has no major problem that prevent a release. Le 20/11/2017 à 12:27, Max a écrit : What about something for linux? Generally support a new release? On 2017년 11월 17일 18:07, cyrille henry wrote: it appear that pledgie is dedicatad to find money for your work, better than financing

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Or for all platforms ? In vertex processing with have : - vertex shader - geometry shader What about tesselation shader ? I use Gem a lot so i will be happy to participate financially if that can help to add functionality to it. ++ Jack Le 20/11/2017 à 12:27, Max a écrit : > What about somet

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What about something for linux? Generally support a new release? On 2017년 11월 17일 18:07, cyrille henry wrote: it appear that pledgie is dedicatad to find money for your work, better than financing other work. i.e, if I crete a project, I'll receive the donation. So, I went with bounty source.

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it appear that pledgie is dedicatad to find money for your work, better than financing other work. i.e, if I crete a project, I'll receive the donation. So, I went with bounty source. I create 4 bounty: https://www.bountysource.com/issues/3383537-w32-build-msvc https://www.bountysource.com/issu

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Thanks Cyrille! I guess bountysource is easier because the fund is automatically distributed among issue solvers. There's the option to funnel the "bounty" back into another issue once you earned the bounty. But, in the end it is more expensive when you "cash out". Pledgie sounds great. As far as

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Yes I will donate too! Sofy Yuditskaya The Source On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Nicolas Montgermont wrote: > Hello, > > Pledgie seems ok. > I'd be happy to contribute financially for the release of a new Gem and > the development of the av plugin for osx. > The analy

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Hello, Pledgie seems ok. I'd be happy to contribute financially for the release of a new Gem and the development of the av plugin for osx. The analysis of Cyrille seems fine to me. Let's do it! Best, Nicolas http://nimon.org Le 16/11/2017 à 09:42, cyrille henry a écrit : > i'm fighting to keep

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n Nov 16, 2017, at 10:09 AM, gem-dev-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: > > Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 18:05:10 +0100 > From: cyrille henry mailto:c...@chnry.net>> > To: gem-dev@lists.iem.at <mailto:gem-dev@lists.iem.at> > Subject: Re: [GEM-dev] financing Gem development >

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i'm fighting to keep Gem alive, not to kill it. Le 16/11/2017 à 03:57, Ivica Ico Bukvic a écrit : Why not instead focus on Jonathan's work on implementing WebGL inside Purr-Data canvas (which is already in node webkit) and by doing so obtain most of the Gem functionality in a way that does no

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Why not instead focus on Jonathan's work on implementing WebGL inside Purr-Data canvas (which is already in node webkit) and by doing so obtain most of the Gem functionality in a way that does not mess with the audio interrupt? On Nov 15, 2017 12:05, "cyrille henry" wrote: > hello, > i'm sorry i

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hello, i'm sorry it took so long, I have lot's of work. I found 2 platform : https://pledgie.com/ and : https://www.bountysource.com/ pledgie get 3% of the donation, bountysource get 10%. unless anyone have a better idea, i'll start to go with pledgie cheers c Le 30/10/2017 à 17:38, cyrille

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It took me a very long time to write all of the Quicktime code for pix_film/record/video and have it run well. I think pix_record took a few months to write working on it nearly full time. After that it was a lot more work to have them all run for months at a time without crashing. I was being p

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Hello, I've check Iohannes github: There is not a lot's of release critical issue. Image, film and video under osX and having a way to compile for window and the main issues. There is also lot's of stuff regarding FTGL, but they look to be obsolete. At least, we will know if they are obsolete

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On 2017-10-17 10:38, Antoine Villeret wrote: > We can setup some deployment rules to automatically upload binary to github > release page and/or to deken. travis builds are already deployed automatically to http://git.puredata.info/cgit/deployment/Gem-snapshots/ this is not deken, and that's o

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Hi, regarding splitting things into small parts and have a sight on what should be done, what is on the road, and what is finish, github project is a good challenger, it is already integrated into github where Gem is hosted, issue can be converted into t

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I've got a quiet place to work at home, but thanks for the proposition! cheers c Le 13/10/2017 à 01:36, me.grimm a écrit : i put this out there once (couple years ago) but I could offer housing/residency/lodging or whatever you want to call it for someone wanting to dedicate the time and spe

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thanks, it's good to know! Le 12/10/2017 à 23:16, Antonio Roberts a écrit : I known it's not the saviour of everything, but I have seen several open source softwares (Synfig, GIMP) use Patreon to help fund development. I've tried bountysource in the past with limited (i.e. no) result. On 12 O

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i put this out there once (couple years ago) but I could offer housing/residency/lodging or whatever you want to call it for someone wanting to dedicate the time and spend a couple weeks in the beautiful finger lake of upstate ny (my sales pitch) this winter thats the resource i can donate

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I known it's not the saviour of everything, but I have seen several open source softwares (Synfig, GIMP) use Patreon to help fund development. I've tried bountysource in the past with limited (i.e. no) result. On 12 October 2017 at 09:34, cyrille henry wrote: > hello Max > > Le 12/10/2017 à 10:0

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hello Max Le 12/10/2017 à 10:04, Max a écrit : Bonjour Cyrille, This sounds good, there was the idea of some bounty system years ago too. I think it's crucial for this process to 1. break up the job in small manageable parts yes, that's the idea of using the github bug tracker. Spiting jobs i

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Bonjour Cyrille, This sounds good, there was the idea of some bounty system years ago too. I think it's crucial for this process to 1. break up the job in small manageable parts 2. well define their scope and define what "job completed" entails 3. set up a system that doesn't come with a huge ad