Re: Looking for a champion: resurrect log4j 1.x

2022-01-08 Thread Andrew Purtell
. Just a new release without JMSAppender. > On Jan 8, 2022, at 6:34 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: > >  >>> On Jan 8, 2022, at 19:39, Andrew Purtell wrote: >>> >>> Are you using the JMS appender? Are you using the socket receiver? If the >> answer is no t

Re: Looking for a champion: resurrect log4j 1.x

2022-01-08 Thread Andrew Purtell
iatrist, I just want a logging library without known security bugs that remains compatible with existing code and configuration formats and does not force me to transitively upgrade/rebuild/modify the world. On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 5:00 PM Ralph Goers wrote: > > > > On Jan 8, 20

Re: Looking for a champion: resurrect log4j 1.x

2022-01-08 Thread Andrew Purtell
ut a breaking change. We can cross that bridge when and if we come to it. It may never happen. Or, it might, and then 1 has truly reached the end of the road. On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 4:17 PM Matt Sicker wrote: > Answers below: > > > On Jan 8, 2022, at 17:34, Andrew Purtell wrote:

Re: Looking for a champion: resurrect log4j 1.x

2022-01-08 Thread Andrew Purtell
ely require huge effort in > testing. > >>> > >>> Assuming this quick upgrade path doesn't exist, and I already read > struggles by other projects trying to migrate to 2.x - maintaining 1.x and > doing a 1.2.x release makes more sense than investing weeks in migra

Re: Looking for a champion: resurrect log4j 1.x

2021-12-21 Thread Andrew Purtell
> as for the v1 :: COBOL analogy, that’s not a bad comparison. Basically, users who haven’t bothered to upgrade in 10 years will have to end up paying astronomical costs for consultants who can still work on ancient software effectively to help modify their systems. I have to take some exception

Re: [DISCUSS] Omid and Tephra - Graduation (or Retirement?)

2019-11-21 Thread Andrew Purtell
a community and stable management. > On Nov 21, 2019, at 5:16 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > >  > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 21, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote: >> >> Those aren’t comparable though, right? >> >> Solr was a sub pro

Re: [DISCUSS] Omid and Tephra - Graduation (or Retirement?)

2019-11-21 Thread Andrew Purtell
Those aren’t comparable though, right? Solr was a sub project that graduated to a TLP. Omid and Tephra are projects that instead of becoming TLP’s “graduated” into the existing Phoenix TLP. Not the same thing. And also I don’t believe this result is unsuccessful. Neither Omid or Tephra

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-24 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 this would be a good outcome. Both Tephra and OMID are good technologies, with respective pros and cons, and Phoenix can make good use of both of them, should they choose to accept ownership of the code. On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:26 AM Alan Gates wrote: > Justin and mentors of Omid and

Re: [VOTE] Retire Gearpump podling

2018-09-16 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 > On Sep 16, 2018, at 2:31 AM, Manu Zhang wrote: > > Hi mentors, > > The Gearpump podling has voted to retire from incubation. Here are the > relevant discussion and vote threads from the dev list. The vote passed > unanimously with 6 +1s. > > DISCUSS: >

Re: [VOTE] Accept Zipkin into the Apache Incubator

2018-08-27 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 binding > On Aug 26, 2018, at 8:26 PM, Adrian Cole wrote: > > +1 Accept Zipkin (non binding) >> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:14 AM Mick Semb Wever wrote: >> >> After a brief discussion¹ I would like to call a VOTE to accept Zipkin into >> the Apache Incubator. >> The full proposal is

Re: [PROPOSAL] Zipkin for Apache Incubator

2018-08-20 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 After the retirement of the HTrace podling to the attic we are facing a fragmentation or removal of distributed tracing capabilities from a set of related projects (Hadoop, HBase, and Phoenix) that could really use it. When considering a replacement I think if the replacement was also a

Re: [VOTE] Accept Druid into the Apache Incubator

2018-02-22 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 11:03 AM, Julian Hyde wrote: > Hi all, > > After some discussion on the Druid proposal[1], I'd like to > start a vote on accepting Druid into the Apache Incubator, > per the ASF policy[2] and voting rules[3]. > > A vote for accepting a new

Re: [VOTE] Graduate the Apache PredictionIO podling from Incubator to a TLP

2017-10-05 Thread Andrew Purtell
Forwarding my +1 (binding) from the PPMC vote I think the issues with the website are not fatal to the vote and I am confident will be addressed before it closes. I think it is also fine to wait for them to be addressed before proceeding. On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Donald Szeto

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed resolution to graduate the PredictionIO podling

2017-10-03 Thread Andrew Purtell
Thank you Shane! On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Donald Szeto <don...@apache.org> wrote: > Awesome. Thanks for your clarification Shane! > > On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 4:44 PM Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote: > > > Andrew Purtell wrote on 10/3/17 5:59 PM

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed resolution to graduate the PredictionIO podling

2017-10-03 Thread Andrew Purtell
t; good time to move to a recommendation vote? > > Regards, > Donald > > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz < > bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > > > Hi Andrew, > > > > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Andrew Purtell > > &l

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed resolution to graduate the PredictionIO podling

2017-09-29 Thread Andrew Purtell
I am mentor and champion. I've made some comment on the incubator reports to the board about readiness, in the past few reports. PredictionIO has gotten the hang of making releases, is reliably following ASF policies and practice (I lurk on all the lists), has grown their PPMC, and on their

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache PredictionIO 0.12.0 (incubating) RC3

2017-09-26 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Chan Lee wrote: > Hi all, > > The PredictionIO community has voted that 0.12.0-incubating-rc3 to be good > for a source and binary release. This thread is to facilitate a voting for > the > IPMC before a final official source

Re: [VOTE] Apache Gearpump (incubating) 0.8.4-RC1

2017-07-05 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Karol Brejna wrote: > IPMC Community, > > The PPMC vote to release Apache Gearpump (incubating) 0.8.4-RC1 has passed. > We would like to now submit this release candidate to the IPMC. > > The PPMC vote thread is here: >

Re: [VOTE] Livy to enter Apache Incubator

2017-05-31 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) > On May 31, 2017, at 6:03 AM, Sean Busbey wrote: > > Hi folks! > > I'm calling a vote to accept "Livy" into the Apache Incubator. > > The full proposal is available below, and is also available in the wiki: > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/LivyProposal >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache PredictionIO 0.11.0 (incubating) RC2

2017-04-24 Thread Andrew Purtell
we could change an RC without a podling vote, which > seems better in any case. These issues will be fixed asap in master and the > live site. > > > On Apr 22, 2017, at 6:28 PM, Andrew Purtell <andrew.purt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I was just trying to get something moving.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache PredictionIO 0.11.0 (incubating) RC2

2017-04-22 Thread Andrew Purtell
rop >> the .txt, to better comply with the licensing. >> >> Here's my +1, not waiting for anything to be fixed. >> >> John >> >> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 7:43 PM Andrew Purtell <andrew.purt...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I will to

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache PredictionIO 0.11.0 (incubating) RC2

2017-04-22 Thread Andrew Purtell
I will too, and then you will have two binding votes in the affirmative. > On Apr 22, 2017, at 12:34 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Pat Ferrel wrote: >> >> But is it worth doing yet another podling RC and

Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache Tephra-0.11.0-incubating [rc2]

2017-03-15 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 Unpacked source tarball, layout looks ok. Checked sums and signature: ok LICENSE and NOTICE: ok DISCLAIMER: ok RAT check passes: ok Built from source: ok (7u80) Unit tests pass: ok (7u80) On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Gokul Gunasekaran wrote: > Hi all, > > This is a

Re: [VOTE] Bring Griffin to Apache Incubator

2016-12-01 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) > On Dec 1, 2016, at 8:35 AM, Felix Cheung wrote: > > +1 > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:40 PM Henry Saputra > wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> As the champion for Griffin, I would like to start VOTE to bring the >> project as Apache

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache PredictionIO 0.10.0 (incubating) RC5

2016-10-07 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 binding - Checked sums and signatures: ok - Spot checked LICENSE and NOTICE: present, properly formatted - No binaries in the source release (except source image files) - Compiled from source following the build instructions (8u102) - Manually invoked Apache RAT using

Re: [VOTE] Apache Gearpump (incubating) 0.8.1-RC5 as 0.8.1 Release

2016-08-01 Thread Andrew Purtell
I did also mention that 72 hours is a minimum. :-) > On Aug 1, 2016, at 6:52 AM, Kam Kasravi wrote: > > Thanks John, we usually do. Andy suggested under certain circumstances (in > this case minor LICENSE corrections culled from general@ comments for RC4) > there

Re: [VOTE] Apache Gearpump (incubating) 0.8.1-RC4 as 0.8.1

2016-07-27 Thread Andrew Purtell
Jersey is dual licensed CDDL and a transitive dependency from (at least) Hadoop and Spark. > On Jul 27, 2016, at 7:23 AM, Kam Kasravi wrote: > > Hi Justin > > These were tagged as GPL > > > I'll determine their dependencies linkage - we have no references to

Re: [VOTE] Apache Gearpump (incubating) 0.8.1-RC4 as 0.8.1

2016-07-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
I am out until the first week of August. Could one of the Gearpump mentors also on the IPMC have a look? > On Jul 25, 2016, at 1:14 AM, Manu Zhang wrote: > > Could any PMC members please take a look at this release candidate ? > We have already passed the vote

Re: [VOTE] Apache Gearpump (incubating) 0.8.1-RC3

2016-07-15 Thread Andrew Purtell
Thank you very much John. We will fix. On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 4:50 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > Sorry but -1 due to missing DISCLAIMER in the release. See [1] for more > details > > > [1]: > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#notes-disclaimer > >

Re: [VOTE] Apache Gearpump (incubating) 0.8.1-RC3

2016-07-14 Thread Andrew Purtell
Carrying over my +1 from the PPMC vote. Please someone have a look at the release artifacts. I try, but don't have the encyclopedic knowledge of policy nor the eye for detail that some of you other IPMCers do. On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Kam Kasravi wrote: > Hi

Re: DISCUSS: Trafodion for TLP

2016-06-08 Thread Andrew Purtell
remained at HP or found other affiliations but have largely been inactive. > More Esgyn committers have been added since. > > One non-Esgyn committer, Pierre Smits, has been added since entering > incubation. > > -----Original Message- > From: Andrew Purtell [mailto:apurt...@a

Re: DISCUSS: Trafodion for TLP

2016-06-08 Thread Andrew Purtell
Am I correct in understanding that when entering incubation all Trafodion committers were Esgyn employees and after one year the podling has added three new committers of different affiliation? On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Stack wrote: > We'd like to solicit feedback on

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Twill as Top Level Project

2016-06-02 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Henry Saputra wrote: > Hi All, > > Following the DISCUSS thread about Apache Twill graduating as TLP, I would > like to send VOTE request thread. > > All the +1 binding votes sent in the DISCUSS will be counted in the final >

Re: [DICSUSS] Graduation of Apache Twill as Top Level Project

2016-06-01 Thread Andrew Purtell
I'd vote +1. Twill has been doing just fine for a while. > On Jun 1, 2016, at 10:24 AM, Henry Saputra wrote: > > Hi All, > > The Apache Twill PPMCs and the community had discussed and voted to > graduate to become Apache TLP. > > It is a small but welcoming

[RESULT] [VOTE] Accept PredictionIO into the Apache Incubator

2016-05-26 Thread Andrew Purtell
​The ​ VOTE ​ to ​a ccept PredictionIO into the Apache Incubator ​ has concluded and passed with 20 binding +1s, 8 non-binding +1s, and no 0 or -1 votes. ​Thanks to all who voted. Binding +1s Andrew Purtell ​Luciano Resende James Taylor Suneel Marthi ​Chris Nauroth

Re: [VOTE] Accept Pony Mail into the Apache Incubator

2016-05-24 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > Since it seems the discussion has died down, I am now calling a vote on > accepting Pony Mail into the Incubator. Sorry in advance for potato. > > This vote will run for the usual 72 hours. > >

[VOTE] Accept PredictionIO into the Apache Incubator

2016-05-23 Thread Andrew Purtell
Champion Andrew Purtell Nominated Mentors Andrew Purtell James Taylor Lars Hofhansl Suneel Marthi Xiangrui Meng Luciano Resende Sponsoring Entity Apache Incubator PMC -- Best regards, - Andy Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein

Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache Tephra-0.8.0-incubating [rc1]

2016-05-21 Thread Andrew Purtell
This test failure looks like it could be a failure to set up the minicluster. If so, that can be a networking problem on Macs unless using a very recent version of the JDK, or any number of reasons really (minicluster is as complex as it sounds). Anyway, perhaps posting the complete test output

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-20 Thread Andrew Purtell
n May 20, 2016, at 8:53 AM, Suneel Marthi <smar...@apache.org> wrote: > > The current list is good to go and includes all (both present and former) > PIO folks. > I am fine with going for Voting with the present list. > > +1 > > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 11:47 AM,

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-20 Thread Andrew Purtell
The current list of initial committers was that provided me by the PredictionIO folks so I have every reason to believe they all have a stake at entering incubation. It's totally fine with me if we stick to that list. I am just trying to facilitate the fairest process possible. On Friday, May

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-19 Thread Andrew Purtell
Spark integration (I'm a PMC member on that project). > > Mike and I, together with Luciano (who is a mentor on this proposal) would > like to volunteer our services as initial committers, if that is agreeable. > > Kind regards > Nick > mln...@apache.org > > > > > >

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-16 Thread Andrew Purtell
just want to confirm, Salesforce plans to transfer the rights to the name > "PredictionIO" to the ASF? Or is the podling expected to take a new name? > > John > > On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 4:42 PM Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > Greetin

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-16 Thread Andrew Purtell
; >> > > >> I do have two questions about technology: > > >> 1. do you think it would be possible to leverage Apache Beam > > >> (incubating) > > >> for abstracting away dependency on execution frameworks? My > > &

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-14 Thread Andrew Purtell
egration with Apache Zeppelin possible? > > Thanks, > Roman. > >> On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> It is my pleasure to >> >> propose the PredictionIO project for incubation at the Apac

[DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-13 Thread Andrew Purtell
://wiki.apache.org/incubator/PredictionIO Best regards, Andrew Purtell = PredictionIO Proposal = === Abstract === PredictionIO is an open source Machine Learning Server built on top of state-of-the-art open source stack, that enables developers to manage and deploy production-ready predictive services

Re: [VOTE] Accept Gossip into the Apache Incubator

2016-04-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) > On Apr 25, 2016, at 11:14 AM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote: > > Following the discussion thread [1], I would like to call a VOTE to accept > Gossip into the Apache Incubator. > > The Gossip proposal can be found here [2] and is also listed below. > > [ ] +1 Accept

Re: Final draft of the Incubator Board Report - April 2016

2016-04-12 Thread Andrew Purtell
t; > > easier to contribute to, but they can be hard to see when you're in the > > > thick > > > of it. > > > > > > > > > > > Gearpump > > > > > > > > Gearpump is a reactive real-time streaming engi

Re: [VOTE] Accept Omid into the Apache Incubator

2016-03-24 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Daniel Dai wrote: > Following the discussion earlier, I'm calling a vote to accept Omid as > a new Incubator project. > > [ ] +1 Accept Omid into the Incubator > [ ] +0 Indifferent to the acceptance of Omid > [ ] -1 Do not accept

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Omid for Apache Incubator

2016-03-19 Thread Andrew Purtell
Apache Phoenix just released version 4.7.0 with big news: transactions support, using Tephra. There's some interest in a successful Tephra incubation beyond the podling already. That said, that new code in Phoenix can be made pluggable to support more than one transaction oracle. Omid might be

[RESULT] [VOTE] Accept Gearpump into the Apache Incubator

2016-03-08 Thread Andrew Purtell
Greetings, Thanks to all who voted! The vote has passed with the following tally: +1 Binding (11 total) Andrew Purtell James Taylor Reynold Xin Jarek Jarcec Checo Alan Cabrera Jakob Homan P. Taylor Goetz Todd Lipcon Ted Dunning Jean-Baptiste Onofré Flavio Junqueira +1 Non-binding (8 total

Re: [VOTE] Accept Gearpump into the Apache Incubator

2016-03-08 Thread Andrew Purtell
e binding by vote end :) ). > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > > The discussion of the Gearpump proposal has concluded. Please vote to > > accept Gearpump into the Apache Incubator. I will leave

Re: [VOTE] Accept Tephra into the Apache Incubator

2016-03-03 Thread Andrew Purtell
eyond. > > == Community == > > Core developers of Tephra are at Cask Data. Recently the developer community > has expanded to include folks from Apache Phoenix. We hope to extend our > contributor base significantly and we will invite all who are interested > in working on d

Re: [DISCUSS] Gearpump incubation proposal

2016-03-01 Thread Andrew Purtell
Taylor > > > On Mar 1, 2016, at 7:41 PM, Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > It looks like discussion has wrapped up here so I will proceed shortly > with > > a VOTE thread. > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Sean Zhong

[VOTE] Accept Gearpump into the Apache Incubator

2016-03-01 Thread Andrew Purtell
* Xuefu Zhang – Cloudera * Rui Li – Intel === Sponsors === Champion Andrew Purtell Nominated Mentors * Andrew Purtell * Jarek Jarcec Cecho * Todd Lipcon * Xuefu Zhang * Reynold Xin Sponsoring Entity Apache Incubator PMC​ ​

Re: [DISCUSS] Gearpump incubation proposal

2016-03-01 Thread Andrew Purtell
It looks like discussion has wrapped up here so I will proceed shortly with a VOTE thread. On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Sean Zhong wrote: > On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Sean Zhong wrote: > > > sting this. > > > > > If you want a direct look

Re: [VOTE] Accept Mnemonic into the Apache Incubator

2016-02-29 Thread Andrew Purtell
for the project to use > > Mailing lists > priv...@mnemonic.incubator.apache.org (moderated subscriptions) > comm...@mnemonic.incubator.apache.org > d...@mnemonic.incubator.apache.org > > Git repository > https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic >

[DISCUSS] Gearpump incubation proposal

2016-02-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
* Xuefu Zhang – Cloudera * Rui Li – Intel === Sponsors === Champion Andrew Purtell Nominated Mentors * Andrew Purtell * Jarek Jarcec Cecho * Todd Lipcon * Xuefu Zhang * Reynold Xin Sponsoring Entity Apache Incubator PMC

Re: interested in joining the IPMC

2015-12-12 Thread Andrew Purtell
We have had several people write in to general@ over the past few months with this type of request. In at least one case a request triggered a vote on the private list. We should update the incubator site with guidance on what is the best way to approach the IPMC if this isn't ideal. > On

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

2015-11-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
Most of the Hadoop ecosystem uses RTC. I can't speak to other projects but on the one I chair there's no conspiracy to exclude anyone. I chair Bigtop. We recently tested a switch to CTR. It went very well and so we just wrapped up a vote to make it the permanent state of affairs. I think this is

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

2015-11-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
g reviews. So yeah: in his case, it *is* > about control. > > Over the 17 years I've been around Apache, every single time I've seen > somebody attempt to justify something like RTC, it always goes back to > control. Always. > > -g > > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

2015-11-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
I have to completely disagree and find your assertion vaguely offensive. > On Nov 25, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> > wrote: >> ... >> >> and inherit

Re: [VOTE] Accept Kudu into the Apache Incubator

2015-11-24 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) Good luck! On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Todd Lipcon wrote: > Hi all, > > Discussion on the [DISCUSS] thread seems to have wound down, so I'd like to > call a VOTE on acceptance of Kudu into the ASF Incubator. The proposal is > pasted below and also available

Re: [VOTE] Accept S2Graph into Apache Incubation

2015-11-24 Thread Andrew Purtell
> === Issue Tracking === > > S2Graph currently uses the github issue tracking system associated > with its github repo (https://github.com/kakao/s2graph/issues). We > will migrate to the Apache JIRA > (http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/S2Graph). > > === Other Resources

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

2015-11-16 Thread Andrew Purtell
> After writing the above, I started to feel it was familiar and remember a > very similar discussion on hbase-dev last year: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hbase-dev/201508.mbox/%3CCA+RK=_dz+_rzumfwvya0tkvxtk4saeie6pwpgs2mxvsbq8h...@mail.gmail.com%3E - I'd recommend people go check

Re: Apache Metrics, Not Apache Humans

2015-11-15 Thread Andrew Purtell
> Because of Apache Infrastructure's centralized server model (email lists, version control, distributions, homepages, etc.), it has the ability to gather metrics such as, for example, the distribution of pushes to the repository, the branch factor of the mailing list, the centrality of the

Re: [DISCUSS] S2Graph Incubator Proposal

2015-11-09 Thread Andrew Purtell
If you are looking for mentors let me volunteer as one. I think S2Graph has the potential to be a good addition to the Apache family given its relationships and dependencies with other Apache projects from the outset. On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Hyunsik Choi wrote: >

[Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator

2015-10-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
tes and no 0 or -1 votes. > > Thank you everyone for taking the time to review and cast your vote. > > We will now prepare a resolution for the next Board meeting. > > 10 binding: > * Henry Saputra > * Andrew Purtell > * Bertrand Delacretaz > * Julian Hyde > * P. Tayl

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator

2015-10-15 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Luke Han wrote: > The Apache Kylin community and project made significant advances during the > incubating (from Nov 2014) and > believes it is ready to graduate as a top-level project. > > The Apache Kylin is very active. The

Re: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy

2015-10-12 Thread Andrew Purtell
I would not have been able to mentor Phoenix should it have come along now. At the time I was not employed by the originator of the project. Later I chose to join them in part because they contributed the results of their labor to Apache. My evaluation of how well a podling might be functioning

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Kylin from the Apache Incubator

2015-10-10 Thread Andrew Purtell
Agreed, it would be good to have this clarification. The vote is likely to proceed more smoothly. I'm in favor of graduation. I've been lurking over the past few months and the podling has been functioning well. On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: >

Re: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy

2015-10-10 Thread Andrew Purtell
Big +1 If you don't mind a personal anecdote, in fact at work I was recently pointedly asked how the pay is over at the Foundation. (Smile) On Saturday, October 10, 2015, Patrick Hunt wrote: > 10x to what Chris said, put much better than I could. > > We all wear multiple

Re: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy

2015-10-09 Thread Andrew Purtell
We should address perceived, and certainly provable, instances of corruption at the Foundation directly, rather than prescribe policy that seeks to prevent future instances as if there is a precedent (but there isn't one here... at least one not spoken aloud, right?). > A mentor must not be

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Calcite from the Apache Incubator

2015-09-16 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) Good luck! On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: > This is a vote for Calcite to become a top-level project. > > Since joining the Incubator in May, 2014, the Calcite > community has: > * Produced eight IPMC-approved releases under two release >

Re: [VOTE] Accept HAWQ into the Apache Incubator

2015-09-01 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 Yay, more SQL on Hadoop, party on. On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Following the discussion earlier: >http://s.apache.org/Gaf > > I would like to call a VOTE for accepting HAWQ > as a new incubator project. > > The proposal is available at: >

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-04 Thread Andrew Purtell
Can you provide a pointer to a specific example of what you mean? On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Arvind Prabhakar arv...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: ​ In fact, in my opinion it leads to the very unfortunate side effect

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-04 Thread Andrew Purtell
Who are the village spinsters? On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote: On 03.08.2015 21:51, Julian Hyde wrote: In my experience incubating Calcite, the “overhead” was mostly the infrastructure and process, not politics. (If you think the incubator is political,

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Andrew Purtell
​ In fact, in my opinion it leads to the very unfortunate side effect of IPMC ​ ​ feeling in need to justify why it exists by micromanaging podlings. I've been through incubation as a mentor on Phoenix, Nifi, and now getting up to speed on Trafodion, I have not seen micromanagement of podlings.

Re: [PROPOSAL]Pistachio

2015-06-26 Thread Andrew Purtell
:53 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: It was a simple question, and not meant to suggest anything one way or other regarding my opinion of this proposal. On Monday, June 22, 2015, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:26 PM Andrew Purtell

Re: [PROPOSAL]Pistachio

2015-06-22 Thread Andrew Purtell
Pistachio can easily embed computation to the storage layer to achieve the best data locality to improve the computation performance significantly which is an innovative model comparing with the normal ways where the storage and compute are independent to each other. Have you heard of

Re: [PROPOSAL]Pistachio

2015-06-22 Thread Andrew Purtell
It was a simple question, and not meant to suggest anything one way or other regarding my opinion of this proposal. On Monday, June 22, 2015, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:26 PM Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org javascript:; wrote: Pistachio can

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache NiFi from the Incubator

2015-06-17 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding, podling mentor) On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:05 PM, Joe Witt joe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Apache Incubator This thread is to call a vote within the Incubator for the graduation of Apache NiFi. Status page: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/nifi.html Incubator graduation

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-15 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 On Jun 12, 2015 9:24 AM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org javascript:; wrote: As Sean says he's been engaged with the project while acting as mentor, IMHO beyond mentor-ly duties. If the NiFi folks will have him

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator

2015-06-12 Thread Andrew Purtell
As Sean says he's been engaged with the project while acting as mentor, IMHO beyond mentor-ly duties. If the NiFi folks will have him on the initial PMC and he's willing to join it, this should resolve the stated concerns. On Friday, June 12, 2015, Sean Busbey bus...@cloudera.com wrote: On

Re: [VOTE] Accept Trafodion into Apache Incubator

2015-05-20 Thread Andrew Purtell
Company, Amanda.Kay.MoranAThpDOTcom Suresh Subbiah, Hewlett-Packard Company, Suresh.SubbiahAThpDOTcom Sandyha Sundaresan, Hewlett-Packard Company, Sandhya.SundaresanAThpDOTcom Sponsors Champion Michael Stack, StackATapacheDOTorg Nominated Mentors Andrew Purtell apurtellATapacheDOTorg Devaraj

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NiFi 0.1.0-incubating

2015-05-14 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 Checked signature and sums of nifi-parent (1.0.0), nifi-nar-maven-plugin (1.0.1) and nifi (0.1.0) source release zipfiles. Unpacked all source release zipfiles, layout looks good README, LICENSE, NOTICE, and DISCLAIMER files are present in each source zip and look ok Source builds of

Re: [DISCUSS] Trafodion Incubation Proposal

2015-05-12 Thread Andrew Purtell
If you are looking for mentors, I helped on the Phoenix incubation, happy to do so again for Trafodion. On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Stack st...@duboce.net wrote: I would like to start up a discussion on Trafodion joining the ASF as an incubating project. Trafodion is a webscale

Re: Do we need @ASFIncubator ?

2015-03-23 Thread Andrew Purtell
It certainly wouldn't hurt to have another channel for getting the word out. I presume @ASFIncubator would announce new proposals, new projects, project graduations, and releases of incubating software? Anything else besides that ? (Which is quite a lot already.) This would be more Incubator

Re: [VOTE] Accept Groovy into the Apache Incubator

2015-03-20 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:55 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: Following the discussion earlier in the thread: http://s.apache.org/KWE I would like to call a VOTE for accepting Groovy as a new incubator project. The proposal is available at:

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NiFI 0.0.1-incubating

2015-01-28 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 (binding) On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Joe Witt joe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello The Apache NiFi (incubating) team is pleased to be calling this vote for the source release of Apache NiFi 0.0.1-incubating. With six binding (in the ppmc sense) +1 votes and no dissenting votes the

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-26 Thread Andrew Purtell
: On 25.01.2015 21:07, Andrew Purtell wrote: I'm not arguing with you Greg (smile), honestly, Subversion sounds like a very laid back place to participate. It's different in Bigtop, HBase, Phoenix, Whirr (of historical note), and Hadoop (secondhand observation), Hive (secondhand observation

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: Those of us in such a new incoming community might get the commit bit but can't vote on adding committers, See my reply to Jan. C == PPMC solves this completely

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
.) Of course in IPMC voting it is different, but the IPMC is where supervision happens, or doesn't, as some argue. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote: On 25.01.2015 19:16, Andrew Purtell wrote: With a PPMC we invite newcomers to make votes we call binding

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
to be meaningful. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote: On 25.01.2015 19:51, Andrew Purtell wrote: That hardly ever happens (it's most likely when there are problems with ​ ​ a podling's first few releases), which is why you get the impression ​ ​ that the PPMC

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
In all of the projects I have been PMC or PPMC on, we vote on releases, new committers, and elevating committers to PMC. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: This is *exactly

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
Yes, and I briefly confused the two, and fessed up. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: Go to the FIRST POST of this thread (titled: my pTLP view!!). THAT is what we're talking about. Not the Strawman. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-25 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 and similar as shorthand for our preference, but we never tally, as it isn't a formal vote. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: In all of the projects I have been PMC or PPMC on, we vote on releases, new committers, and elevating committers to PMC

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-23 Thread Andrew Purtell
I find the direction this discussion has gone personally disappointing, but I might be missing understanding of some crucial point. 2. the initial PMC is comprised of only ASF Members. committers can be ​ ​ chosen however the community decides. but the *project* is reviewed by ​ people with

Re: my pTLP view

2015-01-23 Thread Andrew Purtell
is this not true? What can the incoming community make a binding vote on, under this proposal? On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: Those of us in such a new incoming community might

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

2015-01-19 Thread Andrew Purtell
I do not dispute anything written below nor do I intend this to be a last word, just a clarification. I ​ n neither model are people powerless in any meaningful sense. I approached these proposals by putting myself in the shoes of a newcomer as best as I'm able (I've been PMC for years and PPMC

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

2015-01-19 Thread Andrew Purtell
I think the cures are all problematic and might be worse than the disease. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: Hi! at this point we have had a few lively threads discussing

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