Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-02 Thread Peter Donald
On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 13:56, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: This simple notion -- and my putting together a Jakarta release HOWTO -- is why I opened this particular thread. The license issue is well taken. I think it would be a good practice for us to include a license in all of our JARs. Even

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-02 Thread Ceki Gulcu
At 18:56 01.01.2002 -0800, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Ted Husted wrote: Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 14:54:30 -0500 From: Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Just the JARs

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-02 Thread Ted Husted
Craig R. McClanahan wrote: How about including a copy of the LICENSE file in the META-INF subdirectory of each JAR file produced by an Apache project? +1 -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463. -- Web

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 1/1/02 10:39 AM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a page regarding how to make a Jakarta release? I'd like to put one together and post it with the other guideline materials. I tried to make a dist target for helping with a release. The target makes source and binary

RE: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Vincent Massol
for JJAR/CJAN to be a subproject of Alexandria. -Vincent -Original Message- From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 January 2002 15:52 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Just the JARs On 1/1/02 10:39 AM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Ted Husted
) so that dependent jars can be easily downloaded I think it might be a good idea for JJAR/CJAN to be a subproject of Alexandria. -Vincent -Original Message- From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 January 2002 15:52 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Just

RE: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Vincent Massol
-Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 January 2002 18:39 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Just the JARs I think Lucene is already doing something very similar. Except that the JARs are just put in with the other builds. Perhaps we can just

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Sam Ruby
Ted Husted wrote: I think Lucene is already doing something very similar. Except that the JARs are just put in with the other builds. Perhaps we can just recommend that everyone follow suit. http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-lucene/nightly/2002-01-01/ I post the contents of those

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 12:57 PM, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would be nice would be to have a JJAR/CJAN project coupled with GUMP. This application would have both an Ant task (for developers) to retrieve versions of dependent jars (latest or specified version or date) and a GUI/Applet

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 2:00 PM, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 January 2002 18:39 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Just the JARs I think Lucene is already doing something very similar. Except

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Ted Husted
Vincent Massol wrote: I'm not sure what you mean. I've had a look and the dependent jars are _not_ put with the gump build (or the release build). I mean that if we all start offering our JARs as a separate download, like Lucene and some others are doing, then people who need these JARs can

RE: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Sam Ruby
Vincent Massol wrote: I agree that it would be nice if the GUMP results were put somewhere publicly accessible (they may be but I have no idea where). However, the second step is to automatically fetch the correct dependent jars (and possibly in a validated working state, proved by unit

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 2:33 PM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent Massol wrote: I'm not sure what you mean. I've had a look and the dependent jars are _not_ put with the gump build (or the release build). I mean that if we all start offering our JARs as a separate download, like Lucene and

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Sam Ruby
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I agree that it would be nice if the GUMP results were put somewhere publicly accessible (they may be but I have no idea where). However, the second step is to automatically fetch the correct dependent jars (and possibly in a validated working state, proved by unit

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Ted Husted
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Putting aside *all* the stuff we are talking about for a moement, and looking at the simple notion of just having release jars available w/o docs, source, etc I don't think this is a bad idea :) However Any license issues? Wouldn't we want to package the

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 2:43 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I agree that it would be nice if the GUMP results were put somewhere publicly accessible (they may be but I have no idea where). However, the second step is to automatically fetch the correct dependent jars (and

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 2:54 PM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Putting aside *all* the stuff we are talking about for a moement, and looking at the simple notion of just having release jars available w/o docs, source, etc I don't think this is a bad idea :) However

RE: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Vincent Massol
-Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 January 2002 19:24 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Just the JARs On 1/1/02 12:57 PM, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would be nice would be to have a JJAR/CJAN project coupled

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 3:08 PM, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 January 2002 19:26 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Just the JARs You don't want to use the results of Gump for JJAR. Gump isn't

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Sam Ruby
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: My rationale was that the goal of GUMP as I understand it now, is to ensure that all projects play well with each other in term of compatibility. It seems natural to extend it so that it can also be asked to retrieve all dependent jars for a given project. Not to

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 6:04 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: My rationale was that the goal of GUMP as I understand it now, is to ensure that all projects play well with each other in term of compatibility. It seems natural to extend it so that it can also be asked to

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Ted Husted
AFAIK, all the Jakarta sub-projects try to ensure (but cannot guarantee) that the nightly builds remain usuable. The idea being you build and test it on your own machine before committing it to the CVS. Of course, since we are human and our tests are imperfect, the nigthly builds sometimes break.

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 7:12 PM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK, all the Jakarta sub-projects try to ensure (but cannot guarantee) that the nightly builds remain usuable. The idea being you build and test it on your own machine before committing it to the CVS. Of course, since we are human and

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Sam Ruby
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: However, I will continue the riff that released versions are important and different. Just curious, why does the December 9th release of jakarta-velocity contain a milestone version of commons-collections.jar dated May 11th, when there was a release of

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 8:43 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: However, I will continue the riff that released versions are important and different. Just curious, why does the December 9th release of jakarta-velocity contain a milestone version of commons-collections.jar

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Ted Husted wrote: Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 14:54:30 -0500 From: Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Just the JARs Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Putting aside *all* the stuff