Re: Borland, Fujitsu, HP, IONA, Nokia, and Oracle voted with Suntolock Open Source out of Java.

2002-03-15 Thread Pete Chown
Kevin A. Burton wrote: The big companies (Microsoft, IBM, SUN, etc) have been the ones creating the standards. IETF, JCP, W3C, etc are all good examples. Actually I think the IETF is the exception, which is why I think it could be a good starting point if people wanted to do their own

Re: Borland, Fujitsu, HP, IONA, Nokia, and Oracle voted with Suntolock Open Source out of Java.

2002-03-15 Thread Pete Chown
Peter Donald wrote: Hell no. Look at all the pety bitching and moaning that goes on now - definetly not conducive to standards bodys which are meant to define specifications via which multiple groups can compete on implementations. You obviously haven't subscribed to any IETF mailing

Micro JakartaOne

2002-03-15 Thread TANAKA Yoshihiro
I am sorry to hear about the cancellation. Nevertheless, I would appreciate very much if you could have our attendee from Japan, Ms. HARADA, Yoko join you at the restaurant meeting. I hope you will have a great time during the meeting and looking forward to hearing more about the details of it.

Re: Micro JakartaOne

2002-03-15 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 3/15/02 8:11 AM, TANAKA Yoshihiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sorry to hear about the cancellation. Nevertheless, I would appreciate very much if you could have our attendee from Japan, Ms. HARADA, Yoko join you at the restaurant meeting. We would be very happy to have her attend. I

Re: License issue (the come back)

2002-03-15 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait Santiago Gala : [..] FYI: Some time ago, I was forbidden to download a java package because my ISP did not have reverse DNS address mapping properly setup, even though I'm in Spain, not a free world enemy, AFAIK. The message I got was something like we could not assess your

RE: License issue (the come back)

2002-03-15 Thread Stephane Bailliez
-Original Message- From: Guillaume Rousse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [...] I know they use such kind of filtering based on your domain name. It also means just using a private indirection, as you did, or public redirect service as anonymiser.com bypass it easily. So we can say

Re: License issue (the come back)

2002-03-15 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait [EMAIL PROTECTED] : On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, GOMEZ Henri wrote: Ok, I didn't know that - and I bet many other people are in the same situation. If anyone can confirm this with a professional, then I think it should be displayed pretty clearly on a visible page, and we should

Re: Re: License issue (the come back)

2002-03-15 Thread acoliver
On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:05:41 0100 Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote. Correct me if I'm wrong but if you break US law while in France without breaking any French laws and no US laws covered by extradition treaties, I don't think you care unless you enter the US physically (and have ticked

Re: Borland, Fujitsu, HP, IONA, Nokia, and Oracle voted with Suntolock Open Source out of Java.

2002-03-15 Thread costinm
Kevin A. Burton wrote: The big companies (Microsoft, IBM, SUN, etc) have been the ones creating the standards. IETF, JCP, W3C, etc are all good examples. I think you are a bit confused by the fact that everything a company does is claimed to be 'standard, high quality, reliable, secure'

Re: Micro JakartaOne

2002-03-15 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 3/15/02 5:18 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any suggestions for a good restaurant anyone? There are a bazillion good restaurants in SF. You just pick the style of food you want and I can list off about 100 for each style. Also, I'm still willing to show people the club,