Fwd: Bad link on

2005-10-13 Thread Pier Fumagalli
FYI Begin forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 13 October 2005 09:26:02 BDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bad link on In the paragraph entitled Watch where you are sending email. On the page http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html The following link

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Commons EL 1.0 Released

2003-06-25 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 25/6/03 2:49 Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 06:58 AM, Pier Fumagalli wrote: Someone cares to explain the difference between JEXL and this one? Jexl is my own concoction to do what the JSTL EL does with extensions, w/o worry about some

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Commons EL 1.0 Released

2003-06-24 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Someone cares to explain the difference between JEXL and this one? Pier Jan Luehe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Commons EL team is pleased to announce the first official release of Commons EL from the Apache Software Foundation. Commons EL provides an interpreter for the Expression

Re: Sun

2003-05-31 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Vic Cekvenich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI: The rumor is from developers I know of a commercial J2EE vendor that no one passes all the tests. But since they pay, that makes you certified. I worked for Sun Micro for almost two years, in the J2EE team, and unless something changed in the

Re: Sun

2003-05-29 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't you think JBoss' huge success has something to do with Sun's animosity? Every developer I know who has a say on the platform uses JBoss: better product, better documentation, better support, lower price. Don't read me wrong: I'm on the

Re: Sun

2003-05-28 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 28/5/03 9:08 Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sun should be happy that people create cheap implementations of their APIs. If their own implementations would be any better, they might also be making money of them. ;) Nothing against that, absolutely, but voices are saying that JBoss

FW: broken links

2003-03-21 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Not acked -- Forwarded Message From: Erik Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:28:48 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: broken links There are two sort-of broken links on this page: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/library.html They are the references to The

Re: Eyebrowse problem?

2003-03-20 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 20/3/03 21:03 Magesh Umasankar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All I get when trying to look up any archived message thread is $msgHeaders as the meat of it. What is going on? We're aware of it... Will be fixed hopefully soon... Pier

Re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-18 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 18/3/03 11:33 Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 10:02 PM, Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 17/3/03 1:24 Hans Bergsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that there's been problem with the Servlet EG this time around, but what I'm saying

Re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-16 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 12/3/03 6:53 Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 10:58 PM, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: As it turns out, there is substantial room for innovation and debate in the implementation of API specs like servlet and JSP (see the history of Tomcat

Re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-16 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 16/3/03 20:20 Hans Bergsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir, I _really_ am in troubles when dealing with Servlets. I cannot raise issues on the tomcat-dev mailing lists, all I can do is discuss them with Jon and Jason, as they both are on the spec... You can raise and discuss your

Re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-16 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 16/3/03 23:32 Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I *think* that you should be able to discuss the issues with any ASF member, if you are representing the ASF on the EG, not just other EG members. We all are bound by the agreements made by the ASF. In fact I post my concerns

Re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-16 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 17/3/03 1:24 Hans Bergsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that there's been problem with the Servlet EG this time around, but what I'm saying is that there are avenues that we _could_ have used to voice our concerns, but we didn't for some reason. There are a number of mailing lists and

Re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-11 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 11/3/03 23:40 Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No I'm saying that projects which some committers are bound by Sun's NDAs and are on the specification commmittees do not have meritocratic consensus based communities. The committers engaged in the legal agreement with sun cannot

Re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Paulo Silveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry not giving a link the other time. Here is Apache voting against JSR 127 long time ago. http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/results?id=614 You can see Apache´s comment: On 2001-05-28 Apache Software Foundation voted No with the following comment:

Re: [RESULT][PMC VOTE] PMC Nominations

2003-02-21 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Henri Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: the following committers have passed the PMC nomination vote proposed by sam ruby: - Danny Angus - Peter Carlson - Morgan Delagrange - Ceki Gülcü - Dmitri Plotnikov - Phillip Rhodes - James Strachan -

Re: [RESULT][PMC VOTE] PMC Nominations

2003-02-21 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I nominate Pier Fumagalli for membership in the Jakarta PMC, for a period exceeding that of any Italian post-war government. +1 I thank you and esteem the trust you guys have in me, and I feel honored of this nomination

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 19/2/03 17:18 Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeffrey Dever wrote: I am not excited by the idea of only PMC members voting on releases to the exclusion of active committers. I'm the release prime for Commons HttpClient where all committers vote on all issues all the time, including

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 19/2/03 21:31 Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 19/2/03 17:18 Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The goal is to make all active committers PMC members. I think this is utterly wrong for an umbrella project like Jakarta. Interesting. 100% of the ASF board

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 19/2/03 23:00 Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guess what? No need for that at all! The additional responsibility being on a PMC entails wasn't additional at all. Avalon is ONE project... Jakarta, I can't count them with my hands AND feet. Pier

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 20/2/03 2:34 Conor MacNeill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A bit like saying the government is responsible for running the country. That doesn't mean every minister will have expertise in every portfolio Ministers might not know the details, but know the overall direction and actions of all the

Re: [PMC VOTE] PMC Nominations

2003-02-17 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 17/2/03 7:25 Stefan Bodewig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pier, Ceki, Jason and Ted are covered by the re-add former PMC members who want to be PMC members again plan you've hinted at. I wasn't on the PMC last year, it was two years ago... Anyhow, I am on the PMC list only because I respond to

Re: Licensing again.

2003-02-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 10/2/03 4:05 Lawrence E. Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It should be noted that Apache Software Foundation members are the legal *owners* of the software that is available under the Apache Software License. Indeed, that is one of the key benefits to becoming an ASF member, as opposed to

Re: [Fwd: Maven as a top-level apache project]

2003-02-08 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 9/2/03 2:05 Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And why not: DISPLAY the damn license and require the user to type I do understand the terms of this licence and click somewhere ( that may also cover the requirements of some of the packages ). Click-through is something we always

Re: nagoya.apache.org Administrator

2003-02-05 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 5/2/03 16:48 Nathan Christiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone on this list know who I would need to contact at nagoya.apache.org in order to change my E-mail address on my Bugzilla account? My company has changed names and therefore my E-mail address has changed. The old E-mail

Re: Example committer acknowledgement - RESEND

2003-02-04 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 5/2/03 2:59 Scott Eade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The example committer acknowledgement on http://jakarta.apache.org/site/roles.html indicates that a new committer should send an email to asf at jaguNET.com. What is the purpose of this, and assuming there is a purpose, what is the address

Re: LGPL beans imported into code at Apache....

2003-01-30 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 30/1/03 7:58 Paul Hammant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: different subject/ I am not sure of Steffano's assertion that a Cocoon block can be GPL from the last of that thread.. If it does an import of org.apache.anything it is in trouble from my understanding of RMS's typed GPL wisdoms (pasted

Re: nice

2003-01-30 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 30/1/03 13:26 Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 10:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, for instance, I was once interviewed for a contract to hire gig at Microsoft. (This was circa '97 prior to my involvment in Java). Had I sold my soul,

Re: eyebrowse archive of commons-httpclient-dev

2003-01-26 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Sander Striker wrote: http://www.apache.org/dev/list-setup.html Gotcha... Since I was at it I also added Tapestry-DEV, Tapestry-USER, Avalon-USERS, BSF-DEV and BSF-USERS... Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Forum Software.

2003-01-22 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 01:08:56PM -0800, Randall J. Parr wrote: It seems much of the reason people want to have forums is for the search abilities. There are mail archives available but I must I agree many are so limited in their search abilities and/or interface that they do not help

Re: New Jakarta proposal: Pluto

2003-01-21 Thread Pier Fumagalli
As this is an implementation of a JSR, I believe that the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list should be made aware of those plans... I forwarded your email there... Pier Stefan Hepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I would like to propose a new Jakarta project, named Pluto, that should

FW: Typo on http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi

2003-01-03 Thread Pier Fumagalli
FYI, not acked... Pier -- Forwarded Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 19:20:52 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Typo on http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi First line convienence - convenience. Just thought I'd point it out. I've been there dozens of

Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 21/12/02 2:34 Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Sam, do you or someone have the abillity/will to give me sufficient rights to install a small cgi script on an apache webserver somewhere with filesystem access? Your definition of ACTION is AskSam? AFAIK, your

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 18/12/02 19:00 Doug Bateman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seeing clarification: Is Sam's post here the official report from the PMC, or a summary of a PMC report posted elsewhere? Looking at the news page, I see a summary for status of each individual project in Jakarta, but no summary of

Re: FYI: Follow up on the XML'ization of MS Office 11

2002-12-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 17/12/02 18:03 Dominique Devienne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... which follows the SUN and MS bashing thread where this subject was brushed on. I'm just forwarding the news, no need to shoot/flame the messenger. Thanks, --DD From: xmlhack daily news digest: 17 Dec 2002 Microsoft Office

Re: GUI of the website, where's an overview? (not simply found)

2002-12-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 17/12/02 7:14 Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm currently (slowly) working on this: http://cocoon.cocoondev.org/mount/trove/ - which should, amongst others, be dependant on Gump data. Simple hint... Don't call it Trove... http://teatrove.sourceforge.net/ It's a pretty-famous

Re: GUI of the website, where's an overview? (not simply found)

2002-12-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 19/12/02 13:49 Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trove is also Sourceforge's categorization system. I suspect that is where the name was taken from. If you'd like to publicize Tea more, why not put it on the Elsewhere news on the front page? (not being sarcastic, its an honest

Nagoya Moved...

2002-12-13 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Ok, I got a couple of complaints from freaks whose DNS didn't refresh all right (not _my_ fault :-)... If someone on your favorite list is complaining that they can't see Nagoya, or the bug database, tell them to fix their DNS server (first) and to use the (new) IP address straight:

Re: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-13 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 13/12/02 20:00 Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 06:42:36PM +0200, mohammad nabil wrote: support Sun, Open Source, and all good manufacturar in our nice world :) Do you just not grasp that Sun's rigid control of Java is the antithesis of Open Source, and

Re: Short Apache licence for source files

2002-12-07 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 7/12/02 7:56 Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pier Fumagalli wrote: Current drafts of the 2.0 license include a solution to this issue, plus a whole bunch of other niceties. Discussions of the new license are happening on a mailing list dedicated to that purpose. Where

We're MOVING! :-)

2002-12-07 Thread Pier Fumagalli
A big thank you to Sun Microsystems which is upgrading our bandwidth for Nagoya from 1.5 Mbps (T1) to something _MUCH_ bigger (as far as I was told, though)... We (well, actually Justina and her team) will have to move nagoya off to another colo somewhere in california next week, so there will be

Re: Short Apache licence for source files

2002-12-05 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 5/12/02 4:04 am, in article 003b01c29c13$6dd962b0$927ba8c0@ROSENGARDEN, Lawrence E. Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Current drafts of the 2.0 license include a solution to this issue, plus a whole bunch of other niceties. Discussions of the new license are happening on a mailing list

Re: velocity lovers...

2002-12-05 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Wow. Java Server Faces really sucks ass. Much more than I could have ever imagined. No wonder I didn't bother looking at it before. What a confusing, over engineered, under thought out way to do things! I'm really surprised that Sun thinks that anyone is going to use this crap and actually

Re: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-05 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 6/12/02 1:00 James Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Question I have for everybody here is does anyone have any interest in Porting any of the other jakarta projects to C# so that they may be able to run on Mono/Linux/windows .Net/Micorsoft ? what this sppose to

FW: Missing pages on xindice site

2002-11-26 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Not acked... Please... Pier -- Forwarded Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 04:44:41 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Missing pages on xindice site Hello! Since two weeks, the following links on your site produces 404-Errors:

Re: Missing pages on xindice site

2002-11-26 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not acked... Please... Whopsie... Wrong general! :-) Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Mozilla mail filters

2002-11-22 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 22/11/02 16:41 Laurie Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That looks pretty cool. Is gatewaying mailing lists as easy to do as it claims? No, he makes it sound complicate... It's actually easier. Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: Mozilla mail filters

2002-11-21 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this a feed from gmane ? Nope. Does it use the same mail verification program? Messages are delivered to my Qmail, will through SpamAssassin and McAfee for viruses, if that's what you're asking. Do you plan to take the whole feed ( including non

Re: Mozilla mail filters

2002-11-21 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Laurie Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/20/02 9:54 PM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like a bazillion of other people... Folks, you can't just _forbid_ me to watch my daily porn just because you want news... Once I'm done with this deadline, I'll move some stuff over somewhere

Re: Mozilla mail filters

2002-11-21 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 21/11/02 18:16 Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pier Fumagalli wrote: Does it use the same mail verification program? Messages are delivered to my Qmail, will through SpamAssassin and McAfee for viruses, if that's what you're asking. Gmane uses a mail verification mechanism

Re: Mozilla mail filters

2002-11-21 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 21/11/02 15:58 Laurie Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/21/02 8:36 AM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only thing I need is bandidth. From the admin point of view, dropping INN has been the best choice I've made in a _very_ long time. Basically zero maintenance. Well

Re: Mozilla mail filters

2002-11-20 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Laurie Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, doesn't seem to be working at all for me :-( Did the server go down? I took it down yesterday night. Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Mozilla mail filters

2002-11-20 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 20/11/02 23:11, Laurie Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn, I was enjoying using that ;-) Is it coming back? Like a bazillion of other people... Folks, you can't just _forbid_ me to watch my daily porn just because you want news... Once I'm done with this deadline, I'll move some stuff over

Re: Mozilla mail filters

2002-11-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pier, this is great! I would be happy to use newsgroup instead of emails but I have 2 questions: Shoot... - how fresh are the messages in the newsgroup? It seems there is a few hours delay between emails and newsgroup. That makes it difficult to use

Re: Mozilla mail filters

2002-11-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - how fresh are the messages in the newsgroup? It seems there is a few hours delay between emails and newsgroup. That makes it difficult to use newsgroup in replacement of emails, don't you think? Well, to put

Re: Mozilla mail filters

2002-11-15 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Stéphane MOR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 15/11/02 0:50 Stéphane MOR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we could link to the file from the Mailing Lists section of jakarta-site2. Any thoughts ? Yes, start using news.betaversion.org (which will move

Re: Mozilla mail filters

2002-11-14 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 15/11/02 0:50 Stéphane MOR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we could link to the file from the Mailing Lists section of jakarta-site2. Any thoughts ? Yes, start using news.betaversion.org (which will move to news.apache.org once I'm over my friggin deadline), which works with mozilla and

Re: Gump changes

2002-11-12 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Stefan Bodewig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh? Why not leaving it on Nagoya? I don't think the nightly build is created on Nagoya, but on Sam's private machine. So I'm wondering why the heck I'm running that thing 4 times a day

Re: [scarab] problems with scarab server

2002-11-11 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 9/11/02 8:51 pm, Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2002/11/8 8:53 PM, Scott Eade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, Scarab on nagoya is always very slow, almost to the point of being unusable. I just need to make it clear that it isn't Scarab that is slow, it is nagoya. =) I

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Commons Validator 1.0 Released

2002-11-01 Thread Pier Fumagalli
James Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The few but proud members of the Commons Validator team are pleased to announce the release of Validator 1.0. This represents a first stable release that should allow develops to start using Validator for their projects, while we take a moment to reflect

Re: Adding Lists to EyeBrowse - how?

2002-10-30 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 30/10/02 7:32 am, Daniel Rall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm actually working on updating nagoya to the latest Eyebrowse code and schema, which contains some bug fixes and drastically increases the performance of the ViewLists servlet. +1 :-) ViewLists Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: Adding Lists to EyeBrowse - how?

2002-10-30 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 30/10/02 22:19, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30/10/02 20:51, Daniel Rall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah... Like POI... sniff... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EyeBrowse is a great facility - how do we add other Apache mailing

Re: Adding Lists to EyeBrowse - how?

2002-10-30 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 30/10/02 23:07, Daniel Rall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 30/10/02 22:19, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30/10/02 20:51, Daniel Rall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah... Like POI... sniff

[TEST] Please ignore...

2002-10-30 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Either this message goes in the newsgroup or I'm going to kill myself... Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:general-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:general-help;jakarta.apache.org

Re: [TEST] Please ignore...

2002-10-30 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Given that now I'm replying from a newsgroup, in theory, yes... Pier On 31/10/02 3:02 Jeffrey Dever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are safe Pier ... live long and prosper. Pier Fumagalli wrote: Either this message goes in the newsgroup or I'm going to kill myself

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins Jakarta

2002-10-26 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 26/10/02 15:01, Howard M. Lewis Ship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, this went out about a week ago, and the guidelines only cover as far as publishing a proposal on the Jakarta General List. What is the next step? So far, I haven't seen any real negative responses, and a lot of positive

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins Jakarta

2002-10-26 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 26/10/02 15:20, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I totally disagree with Pier's statement (and you'll find many here will feel the same as I on this). The opinion of Tapestry joining is very good. Realize Apache is more like a confederation than anything. So different people

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins Jakarta

2002-10-26 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 26/10/02 19:25, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pier Fumagalli wrote: WHO needs to vote? Jakarta or Incubator? http://jakarta.apache.org/site/management.html For Tapestry to become a subproject of Jakarta requires a 3/4 majority of the PMC. I am very interested in getting

Re: Linux Magazine article

2002-10-25 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 25/10/02 7:17, James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it true that Marc had asked to move JBoss over and that it was not accepted? Question floats around from time to time... It always ends up in someone being flamed badly and nothing happening... The wishy-washy relationship started

Re: Linux Magazine article

2002-10-25 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 25/10/02 19:14, Scott Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is any of this true? Was Jboss rejected from joining Apache? No, Jboss was not rejected from Jakarta. IIRC, they wanted to join and jakarta said 'can we digest what we have first?', and jboss said, 'no thanks', and then switched to

Re: what's the right way to deal with unlicensed code in sandbox?

2002-10-24 Thread Pier Fumagalli
there are files in daemon which appear to be missing license files. this should be fixed. If it's stuff I wrote (as most of the daemon AFAICR), well, then stick the ASL version 1.1 on it and I'm going to be fine... Sorry, my fault, sometimes I forget the usual copy-and-paste... Pier --

Ok, I fucked up...

2002-10-22 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Whilst trying to help out to solve the situation of Daedalus being overloaded (Greg Ames and I were trying to split the load from Daedalus onto Nagoya), I _seriously_ screwed up Nagoya... I'm sorry... I started off noticing that Nagoya was collapsing (or better, the network was collapsing) when

Re: Can't get to bug database

2002-10-22 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 22/10/02 23:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: None of the links off of the Jakarta site to the bug databases are working. I tried http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/ http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=Ant http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/ It should

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins Jakarta

2002-10-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 19/10/02 19:49, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So could someone clarify that for me... We're here to promote community software developmentas long as they don't overlap? sorry I totally misunderstood the apache way. (especially with all the overlapping projects to the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins Jakarta

2002-10-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 20/10/02 0:40, Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2002/10/19 4:22 PM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to start a new project for a new Servlet Container that is not Tomcat! :-) Let's see how many fans I'm going to get! :-) Pier Yea, let's see if we can

Re: Bug handling survey - 80:20 rule

2002-10-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Santiago Gala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're assuming, of course, that you can't have commercial software that *is* open source :-). Such models do exist -- so I'm assuming you are primarily talking about closed source commercial software. This is a very meaningful distinctions. IMO, the

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-09 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 9/10/02 3:47, Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even when Quick and Dirty takes longer. I tried to convince my boss that a certain customization required so many fundamental changes that it would be quicker and easier to develop/maintain if we did it right. He told me that he

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-09 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 8/10/02 23:59, Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Java is not the fastest technology to develop in, however, it produces the best code for the long term. PHP is the fastest technology to develop in, however, it produces the crappiest code for the long term. The problem is when

Re: Struts and Tomcat 4.0

2002-10-09 Thread Pier Fumagalli
I believe they also tried to make a JSR out of it, but got shot down somewhere in the middle... :-( Pier On 9/10/02 13:38, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool! I'm impressed! I'll have to check that out. On Tue, 2002-10-08 at 20:12, Daniel Rall wrote: Andrew C. Oliver

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-08 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 8/10/02 1:30 am, Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2002/10/7 5:21 PM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JSPs are the root of all evil because HTMLers think to have the power (and obligation, after a while) to blatantly destroy your entire container in less than 2

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-08 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 8/10/02 3:09 am, Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does c stand for? Oh wait...explain that to your designers. Also, I believe you forgot a bunch of other junk that you have to put at the top of the file or in configuration files to configure what c means anyway. It is

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-08 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So putting out crap code that you have to toggle and mess with over and over again is where the money is at in web app development. So what is the solution? There isn't one...web app development is still a big hairy mess. Choice is good. ;-) Well

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-07 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 7/10/02 22:01, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I think there are places that struts could learn a lot from turbine... Struts has a bit more design cohesion shall we say? Where turbine is a bit moreorganic in places. The nice thing about Turbine is that it does

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-07 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 8/10/02 1:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And to resurface the old issue, this is so much worse than #if (..) #end in Velocity...? I believe that Andy doesn't quite know what templates are ! :-) Dude, we're not talking about the beauty of XML around here, but stuff

Re: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

2002-10-07 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 8/10/02 1:12, Scott Eade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the Velocity is much easier to teach to a web designer (non-programmer) than the JSP. http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ymtd/ymtd.html More than easier to teach, is that it _forbids_ them to do what they're not supposed to do...

Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?

2002-10-05 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 5/10/02 6:22, Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I appreciate the willingness of Pier (and others) to work there. All I can say is that *not* moving to the Bay Area was a condition of me accepting my job at Sun ... :-) Aw, Craig, ye olde man... It's just the sunshine, the

Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?

2002-10-04 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 4/10/02 14:49, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be more interested to hear statistics on how many people are California-based versus non-California based. (It would help me with my research into Apache cultures and cliches ;-) for a paper I'm writing ) More than being in CA,

Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?

2002-10-03 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 3/10/02 15:35, Danny Angus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2/are we a) young b) 20-30 c) 30-40 d) 40-50 d) old My mother would _kill_ your for saying that over-50 is old Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Announce][HttpClient] New mailing list httpclient-dev

2002-10-03 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Jeff Dever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, A new mailing list on Jakarta was created today for the Commons HttpClient project. You can subscribe to this list by sending email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is ment for *all* development traffic related to HttpClient,

Re: [Announce][HttpClient] New mailing list httpclient-dev

2002-10-03 Thread Pier Fumagalli
The reconfiguration of the mailing list is now done... It should be all archived now, with digests and stuff... Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Jakarta.apache.org and Spam or junk mail threshold

2002-09-29 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 29/9/02 10:49 am, Mr Dion Gillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - SMTP Protocol Returned a Permanent Error 553 Spam or junk mail threshold exceeded. See http://www.flame.org/qmail/spamjunk.html (#5.7.1) - Searching their database results in a

Re: Issue tracking

2002-09-26 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 26/9/02 3:04, Scott Eade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am in the process of tidying up the issue tracking systems used by the turbine projects. The biggest change is that we are predominantly going to use an instance of the turbine based Scarab issue tracking system (from tigris.org)

Re: Issue tracking

2002-09-26 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Scott Eade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 26/9/02 3:04, Scott Eade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This instance was set up as it apparently proved difficult to gain the necessary access to maintain the Scarab instance at issues.apache.org/scarab. We

Re: Issue tracking

2002-09-26 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 26/9/02 19:43, John McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I made a request for access to nagoya so that I could take over maintenance of the scarab installation there. I never heard back from you; I would/should have followed up, but Jason made the offer of the werken.com box so I took him up

Re: Issue tracking

2002-09-26 Thread Pier Fumagalli
IIRC /opt/mysql/bin/mysqlclient Pier On 27/9/02 2:47 am, John McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you. Now is there a mysql client on this box? john mcnally On Thu, 2002-09-26 at 17:31, Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 26/9/02 22:54, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Emacs? I

Re: Jakarta projects on OSDir.com

2002-09-23 Thread Pier Fumagalli
: Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon Sep 23, 2002 11:22:07 AM America/Halifax To: Steve Mallett [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Jakarta projects on OSDir.com Write to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Steve Mallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **Hi

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-17 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] we should be getting some more powerful mail list servers, just in case. Not needed. Trust me. Pier (the mail master) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-17 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/love.html With a file name like this, I miss a pink hearts background. Does anyone have one of those to contribute? Nope, but if it helps making him look better, I have a pic of Jon wearing a pink ballerina dress...

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-17 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And even better is there is a revenge: - Lots of pictures! Being Jon one of my closest friends since _a_lot_, he has _a_lot_ of compromising material on me... And not only pictures (aaarrrggghhh) Pier (ducks for cover) -- [Perl] combines all the

FW: AESGI Support

2002-07-11 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Not acked... Pier -- Forwarded Message From: Gregory Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:36:45 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AESGI Support Please add the following to your list: Applied Engineering Software Group - http://www.aesgi.com Green Bay,

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