Re: Newsletter - Request for content
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reduce the frequency - every 2 months has been suggested before. Has that helped to get more content into the October issue? Widen the scope - ant and Avalon have grown up to be (at least partially) outside the jakarta scope, should we include xml.apache.org? You could invite them (and anybody else) and add news for whatever (sub)project has provided input. Maybe its fine as it is? To me it is, thanks a lot. Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newsletter - Request for content
As you can see the timetable has slipped a bit! However, there doesn't seem to be a lot to go in this issue (just an entry for lucene + whatever I write to summarise general@) and I was wondering whether it was worth bothering with. I realise this is to be expected with the Christmas / New Year but there has been a general decline in content volume over the months and I was wondering whether there was something that should be done to address this. A number of thoughts have been mentioned by various people and I'd be interested to hear opinions: Reduce the frequency - every 2 months has been suggested before. Format revamp - no idea how but ideas welcome - perhaps new blood is required? Widen the scope - ant and Avalon have grown up to be (at least partially) outside the jakarta scope, should we include xml.apache.org? and it's children? maybe just a simple *.apache.org? (with some appropriate rename) Maybe its fine as it is? Thanks, Rob - Original Message - From: Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jakarta General List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'James Strachan' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Henri Yandell' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Conor MacNeill' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Stefan Bodewig' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Otis Gospodnetic' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'David Sean Taylor' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Martin Poeschl' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 2:30 PM Subject: Newsletter - Request for content The end of the month is approaching again and I'm sure that, like me, a lot of you are focused on celebrating the new year. Once all that is over I'd like to post the December issue of the newsletter so if people can send any reports to me that would be great. Everyone is welcome to send summaries of any jakarta issues, those CC'd are so since they posted last time and are asked for a repeat effort or to try and prod others on the respective lists into taking over. In terms of timescale I'd like to pull the drafts together next weekend and post as soon as additions stop trickling in. If the timescale doesn't suit but you'd like to contribute then give me an idea of you'll have something ready and we can discuss how long we can wait. In the meantime, thanks everyone and Happy New Year! Rob P.S. Big thanks to Otis for beating the content request! As usual! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newsletter - Request for content
Rob Oxspring wrote: Reduce the frequency - every 2 months has been suggested before. If you have the energy, 1 month is nice. PArtecipating is not compulsory, so some projects may do it with less frequency. Format revamp - no idea how but ideas welcome - perhaps new blood is required? I like the format :-) Widen the scope - ant and Avalon have grown up to be (at least partially) outside the jakarta scope, should we include xml.apache.org? and it's children? maybe just a simple *.apache.org? (with some appropriate rename) If you have energy to bring in the xml.apache projects it would be great! Then others too, but maybe one step at a time could help. Maybe its fine as it is? Your work is very much appreciated :-) -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains) - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newsletter - Request for content
On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 12:46:25PM -, Rob Oxspring wrote: As you can see the timetable has slipped a bit! However, there doesn't seem to be a lot to go in this issue (just an entry for lucene + whatever I write to summarise general@) and I was wondering whether it was worth bothering with. I realise this is to be expected with the Christmas / New Year but there has been a general decline in content volume over the months and I was wondering whether there was something that should be done to address this. A number of thoughts have been mentioned by various people and I'd be interested to hear opinions: Reduce the frequency - every 2 months has been suggested before. Format revamp - no idea how but ideas welcome - perhaps new blood is required? How about setting up an 'ApacheNewsletter' Wiki page, let content accumulate, and publish once critical mass is achieved? I'd imagine that writing a newsletter entry is no fun at all. Probably each project has only 2 or 3 people with a broad enough understanding of the issues to 'summarize' a month's communications, identifying the signal amongst the noise. It's also a rather subjective task, with a high risk of offending someone by omitting or misrepresenting points. Using a Wiki doesn't solve the hard problems, but does lower the barrier to entry, and makes plain that it's everyone's problem to create content, not just the dedicated few listed below. Widen the scope - ant and Avalon have grown up to be (at least partially) outside the jakarta scope, should we include xml.apache.org? and it's children? maybe just a simple *.apache.org? I know Forrest has a willing contributor :) and I'm sure with some arm-twisting, one could be found for Cocoon. --Jeff (with some appropriate rename) Maybe its fine as it is? Thanks, Rob - Original Message - From: Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jakarta General List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'James Strachan' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Henri Yandell' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Conor MacNeill' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Stefan Bodewig' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Otis Gospodnetic' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'David Sean Taylor' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Martin Poeschl' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 2:30 PM Subject: Newsletter - Request for content ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsletter - Request for content
The end of the month is approaching again and I'm sure that, like me, a lot of you are focused on celebrating the new year. Once all that is over I'd like to post the December issue of the newsletter so if people can send any reports to me that would be great. Everyone is welcome to send summaries of any jakarta issues, those CC'd are so since they posted last time and are asked for a repeat effort or to try and prod others on the respective lists into taking over. In terms of timescale I'd like to pull the drafts together next weekend and post as soon as additions stop trickling in. If the timescale doesn't suit but you'd like to contribute then give me an idea of you'll have something ready and we can discuss how long we can wait. In the meantime, thanks everyone and Happy New Year! Rob P.S. Big thanks to Otis for beating the content request! As usual! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newsletter - Request for content
I was mostly off-line over the Thanksgiving weekend and have been caught up with lots of other miscellaneous tasks when I did get some computer time. I'm not going to be able to submit an Ant posting this time, sorry. Erik Rob Oxspring wrote: Hello again, We're very nearly done with another month so it's time to pester people about the newsletter again. As usual, I've cc'd those that submitted content last month in the hope that they will either submit something again, or manage to persuade someone else to take over writing for the November issue. If anybody else fancies doing a write up of the progress in some Jakarta project it then please send it in. For a inspiration on content and style you can review previous entries at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/, although new styles and ideas are welcome too. Planned timescale: Submissions sent to me by midnight Monday 2-Dec-2002. Drafts will be posted on Tuesday and Wednesday as needed for alterations and last minuters. Final copy sent out on [EMAIL PROTECTED] midday 5-Nov-2002 All times GMT. Thanks, Rob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsletter - Request for content
Hello again, We're very nearly done with another month so it's time to pester people about the newsletter again. As usual, I've cc'd those that submitted content last month in the hope that they will either submit something again, or manage to persuade someone else to take over writing for the November issue. If anybody else fancies doing a write up of the progress in some Jakarta project it then please send it in. For a inspiration on content and style you can review previous entries at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/, although new styles and ideas are welcome too. Planned timescale: Submissions sent to me by midnight Monday 2-Dec-2002. Drafts will be posted on Tuesday and Wednesday as needed for alterations and last minuters. Final copy sent out on [EMAIL PROTECTED] midday 5-Nov-2002 All times GMT. Thanks, Rob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsletter - Request for content
Hi all, After a lapse last month its approaching time to put together another newsletter. As usual, I've cc'd those that submitted content last month in the hope that they will either submit something again, or try to persuade someone else to take over writing for the Sep-Oct issue. If anybody else fancies doing a write up of the progress in some Jakarta project it then please send it in. For a inspiration on content and style you can review previous entries at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/, although new styles and ideas are welcome too. Planned timescale: Submissions sent to me by midnight Sunday 3-Nov-2002. Drafts will be posted on Monday and Tuesday as needed for alterations and last minuters. Final copy sent out on [EMAIL PROTECTED] midday 6-Nov-2002 All times GMT. Thanks, Rob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:general-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:general-help;jakarta.apache.org
