Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-23 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
-Original Message- From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:26 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki? O'brien, Tim wrote: A non-member, non-commiter, doc patch submitter with three questions

RE: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-22 Thread O'brien, Tim
-- Tim O'Brien > -Original Message- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:26 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki? > > > O'brien, Tim wrote: > > >A n

Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-22 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: James Mitchell wrote: No JSP does indeed suck. It just sucks less with Struts. LOL..ok, we'll leave it at that. You gotta understand Andy, he's got his own language: - it sucks == I don't get it Damn. I thought you did understand me Ken -- guess not. I'

Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-22 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: James Mitchell wrote: No JSP does indeed suck. It just sucks less with Struts. LOL..ok, we'll leave it at that. You gotta understand Andy, he's got his own language: - it sucks == I don't get it - the idea is good but implementation sucks == I'm not able

Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-22 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
James Mitchell wrote: No JSP does indeed suck. It just sucks less with Struts. LOL..ok, we'll leave it at that. You gotta understand Andy, he's got his own language: - it sucks == I don't get it - the idea is good but implementation sucks == I'm not able to use it - it sucks but wit

RE: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-21 Thread James Mitchell
ay your whole leg." - Bjarne Stroustrup > -Original Message- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 9:59 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki? > > > > > >

Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-21 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
(Not a struts slam, just a "ironic"...struts is the most humane way to do JSP...I've used it myself.) I agree. If its one thing that pisses me off, its <%=this%>. I cringe every time I see "JSP sucks!!!". I just want to scream "NO, YOU HATE IT BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO LEARN HOW

RE: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-21 Thread James Mitchell
From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 4:10 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki? > > > > > > > > > >I disagree, that's not odd at all. You've just quoted (

Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-21 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 7:44 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki? Done... http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/ I'd still prefer a Java/MySQL based approach, but It's up and runni

RE: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-21 Thread James Mitchell
From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 7:44 AM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki? > > > > > > > > > >Done... http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/ > > > >I'd st

Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-21 Thread Vladimir R. Bossicard
3. Scope of the wiki(s) - ((Turbine) and (Avalon)), Jakarta or Apache? Apache. XML-Xindice would also like to have a wiki documentation -Vladimir -- Vladimir R. Bossicard Apache Xindice - http://xml.apache.org/xindice -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional com

Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-21 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Done... http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/ I'd still prefer a Java/MySQL based approach, but It's up and running... No reason not to if you have the drive and ambition to set one up (obviously do so now before too much content is generated). This one has the advantage of being gentle on t

Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-21 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
You benefit from my procrastination of my accounting take-home exam. enjoy ;-) -Andy the unaccounable one Scott Eade wrote: Thanks Pier and Andrew - you made Andrew's suggested deadline with a week to spare ;-) Scott -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional

Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-21 Thread Scott Eade
Thanks Pier and Andrew - you made Andrew's suggested deadline with a week to spare ;-) Scott -- Scott Eade Backstage Technologies Pty. Ltd. http://www.backstagetech.com.au .Mac Chat/AIM: seade at mac dot com On 21/12/2002 5:51 PM, "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 21/12/02 2:34

Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 21/12/02 2:34 "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrew C. Oliver wrote: >> >> Sam, do you or someone have the abillity/will to give me sufficient >> rights to install a small cgi script on an apache webserver somewhere >> with filesystem access? > > Your definition of "ACTION" is "AskSa

Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Lets not start with the FUD.. If it happens, we'll remove them. What if someone puts the detailed information on how to produce Anthrax, and hides the secret location of Osama Bin Ladin in a patch submitted which also brilliantly makes Velocity run 300x faster than it does currently so that w

Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Friday, December 20, 2002, at 09:26 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: O'brien, Tim wrote: A non-member, non-commiter, doc patch submitter with three questions here, Would this Wiki be limited to those with commit status? If not, how does this jive with the whole merit-based Apache-way? Does a

Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Not on any BSD machine. You will find a more receptive set of sysadmins on nagoya. In any case, the right place to pursue this is [EMAIL PROTECTED] good point. Thank you sam. - Sam Ruby -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Sam Ruby
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Sam, do you or someone have the abillity/will to give me sufficient rights to install a small cgi script on an apache webserver somewhere with filesystem access? Your definition of "ACTION" is "AskSam"? AFAIK, your authority and mine with respect to being able to execu

Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
3 M 847-863-7045 -Original Message- From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:26 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki? +1 Sam, do you or someone have the abillity/will to give me sufficient rights to inst

Re: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Scott Eade
>> >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Rodney Waldhoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:36 PM >>> To: Jakarta General List >>> Subject: Re: A Jakarta wiki? >>> >>> >>&

RE: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread O'brien, Tim
General List > Subject: ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki? > > > +1 > > Sam, do you or someone have the abillity/will to give me sufficient > rights to install a small cgi script on an apache webserver > somewhere with filesystem access? > > If not, what about s

ACTION not WORDS Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: A Jakarta wiki? On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, Scott Eade wrote: So how about some feedback: 1. Wiki's - love 'em or hate 'em? Love 'em, and think they would provide (a) a good way to write ad hoc documentation, (b) a good way to host c

Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I'm using the PERL one for several wikis including the TriJUG one (http://trijug.org)... It took 5 minutes to set up and requires just rights to some place on the file system. So far no admin... http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cgi-bin/jugwiki.pl I tested for dumb things like encoding file n

Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Rodney Waldhoff wrote: > On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, Scott Eade wrote: > > > So how about some feedback: > > 1. Wiki's - love 'em or hate 'em? +1 > > 2. JSPWiki - good choice or bad choice? > Don't care, except for below. > > 3. Scope of the wiki(s) - ((Turbine) and (Avalon)),

RE: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Tom Copeland
Love 'em. Let's pick one and set it up... they're very cool tom > -Original Message- > From: Rodney Waldhoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:36 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: A Jakarta wiki? > > >

Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Rodney Waldhoff
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, Scott Eade wrote: > So how about some feedback: > 1. Wiki's - love 'em or hate 'em? Love 'em, and think they would provide (a) a good way to write ad hoc documentation, (b) a good way to host certain discussions. At my day job we use an internal wiki for documentation almost

Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Micael
I suppose it is otoise whether or not you have looked at Chiki? At 12:39 AM 12/21/02 +1100, you wrote: About a month ago a discussion occurred over on turbine-user/dev about the possibility of setting up a wiki to use for creating ad hoc documentation as well as a place to develop more formal doc

Re: A Jakarta wiki?

2002-12-20 Thread Howard M. Lewis Ship
I haven't used JSPWiki, but I have used the Python-based MoinMoin and really, really like it. I just took a quick look at JSPWiki and I wouldn't be surprised if it's feature set is based on MoinMoin (or vice-versa, it's always hard to tell). It helps with discussions, and provides a temporary home