RE: PMC Nomination

2003-02-20 Thread Danny Angus
> And if that works for Italy, I > believe it works everywhere else... Erm, are you really suggesting that Italian politics should be the model we emulate? d. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-20 Thread Santiago Gala
Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 19/2/03 23:10 "Leo Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't think anyone expects that upon becoming a PMC member one would immediately need to gain and maintain intimate knowledge of all corners of the jakarta codebases. It is just about humanly impossible. So it is p

RE: PMC Nomination

2003-02-20 Thread Danny Angus
I like to totally endorse Leo's points about the Avalon PMC, My experience with James PMC is very, very similar. James PMC is by and large the whole set of commiters who were active in discussions about the project, rather than just the code. From that POV nothing much has changed, we're a bit

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Costin Manolache
Pier Fumagalli wrote: > ... > Now, under Jakarta, there might be projects on which one might like to be > involved and spend time on (therefore bearing the responsibilities of > being a PMC member over _that_ particular code base), but there might be > project that one don't want to be even remot

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 20/2/03 2:34 "Conor MacNeill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A bit like > saying the government is responsible for running the country. That doesn't > mean every minister will have expertise in every portfolio Ministers might not know the details, but know the overall direction and actions of a

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Conor MacNeill
Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 19/2/03 21:31 "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is not a convincing enough argument to make me change my point of view. Pier Fair enough. I think it is fair to interpret the paragraph you quoted > The PMC is responsible for the strategic direction and s

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 19/2/03 23:00 "Leo Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guess what? No need for that at all! The "additional" responsibility > being on a PMC entails wasn't additional at all. Avalon is ONE project... Jakarta, I can't count them with my hands AND feet. Pier -

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 19/2/03 23:10 "Leo Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think anyone expects that upon becoming a PMC member one would > immediately need to gain and maintain intimate knowledge of all corners > of the jakarta codebases. It is just about humanly impossible. So it is > probably a good mo

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 19/2/03 21:31 "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pier Fumagalli wrote: >> On 19/2/03 17:18 "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> The goal is to make all active committers PMC members. >> >> I think this is utterly wrong for an umbrella project like Jakarta. > > Interesting. 100%

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Sam Ruby
Ceki Gülcü wrote: By the way, when are the next membership nominations? Martin Poeschl wrote: > > how does someone become an ASF member? > i know, by nomination from another member .. but when does that ever > happen?? This is scheduled to coincide with members meetings which, in turn, are sc

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Leo Simons
Pier Fumagalli wrote: So, unless this: The PMC is responsible for the strategic direction and success of the Jakarta Project. This governing body is expected to ensure the project's welfare and guide its overall direction. Changes to identify that individual PMC members might have oversight on

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Leo Simons
Hi peeps, I am on the avalon PMC. I was a bit scared of the idea of being a PMC member at first, thinking about all the additional responsibility and all the additional things I would need to do. Guess what? No need for that at all! The "additional" responsibility being on a PMC entails wasn't

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Talk less. Nominate more. -Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
One good first step in this direction would be to at least Cc: the pmc list on all [Vote result] messages, so all pmc should be aware of the decisions made. It is important to emphasize *result*. Not to be discouraging but you could quickly overwhelm the PMC with threads of discussion from

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Sam Ruby
Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 19/2/03 17:18 "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The goal is to make all active committers PMC members. I think this is utterly wrong for an umbrella project like Jakarta. Interesting. 100% of the ASF board members that I have talked to have given me exactly the

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 15:41 19.02.2003 -0500, you wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Shouldn't it be that a committer has been around for a reasonable amount of time? How else would they be a committer? From the perspective of other ASF projects (e.g., HTTPD), Jakarta gives out committer-ship like candy. With HT

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 03:41 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Shouldn't it be that a committer has been around for a reasonable amount of time? How else would they be a committer? From the perspective of other ASF projects (e.g., HTTPD), Jakarta gives out committer

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 19/2/03 17:18 "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeffrey Dever wrote: >> >> I am not excited by the idea of only PMC members voting on releases to >> the exclusion of active committers. I'm the release prime for Commons >> HttpClient where all committers vote on all issues all the time, >

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Sam Ruby
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Shouldn't it be that a committer has been around for a reasonable amount of time? How else would they be a committer? From the perspective of other ASF projects (e.g., HTTPD), Jakarta gives out committer-ship like candy. With HTTPD, a track record of approximately

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 02:19 PM, Costin Manolache wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 12:18 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: Jeffrey Dever wrote: I am not excited by the idea of only PMC members voting on releases to the exclusion of active committers. I'm

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Sam Ruby
robert burrell donkin wrote: actively inviting new PMC members to join is something that i think should be done. in the same way that a developer receives a letter from apache (after a successful vote) inviting them to become a committer, i'd say that committers who have been voted onto the P

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Jeffrey Dever
Completely agree. We should see what the new PMC roles/responsibilites are before accepting PMC membership. robert burrell donkin wrote: On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 11:42 PM, Stephen Colebourne wrote: Yesterday I received the Jakarta Monthly Newsletter. Interesting as always, until I g

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Jeffrey Dever
It is not "to the exclusion" of active committers. Http-client is part of jakarta-commons - and acording to the charter any jakarta-commons committer ( which is close to all jakarta ) can vote. As you probably know - only those who are really interested do that. I agree that we're not yet read

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 11:42 PM, Stephen Colebourne wrote: Yesterday I received the Jakarta Monthly Newsletter. Interesting as always, until I got to the section on PMC nominations. There, I suddenly found my name listed as elected to the Jakarta PMC. This came as a complete surprise

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Costin Manolache
Jeffrey Dever wrote: > I am not excited by the idea of only PMC members voting on releases to > the exclusion of active committers. I'm the release prime for Commons It is not "to the exclusion" of active committers. Http-client is part of jakarta-commons - and acording to the charter any jakar

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Costin Manolache
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 12:18 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> Jeffrey Dever wrote: >>> I am not excited by the idea of only PMC members voting on releases >>> to the exclusion of active committers. I'm the release prime for >>> Commons HttpClient where all com

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Jeffrey Dever
If the implication is that "release management = project management", I don't agree. Typically there can only be one release manager, but it's takes lots of people to keep a project going. Certainly every release manager should forward themselves as PMC nominees, but the body of qualified candi

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 12:18 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > > The goal is to make all active committers PMC members. > > Would it be quicker just to make all active committers PMC members by > default? If the idea is that every release-ma

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Morgan Delagrange
--- Jeffrey Dever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> > >> I am not excited by the idea of only PMC members > voting on releases > >> to the exclusion of active committers. I'm the > release prime for > >> Commons HttpClient where all committers vote on > all issues all the > >> time, incl

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 12:18 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: Jeffrey Dever wrote: I am not excited by the idea of only PMC members voting on releases to the exclusion of active committers. I'm the release prime for Commons HttpClient where all committers vote on all issues all the time, in

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Jeffrey Dever
I am not excited by the idea of only PMC members voting on releases to the exclusion of active committers. I'm the release prime for Commons HttpClient where all committers vote on all issues all the time, including releases. HttpClient is somewhat unusual in commons as it is rather a lar

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Sam Ruby
Jeffrey Dever wrote: I am not excited by the idea of only PMC members voting on releases to the exclusion of active committers. I'm the release prime for Commons HttpClient where all committers vote on all issues all the time, including releases. HttpClient is somewhat unusual in commons as

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Jeffrey Dever
I am not excited by the idea of only PMC members voting on releases to the exclusion of active committers. I'm the release prime for Commons HttpClient where all committers vote on all issues all the time, including releases. HttpClient is somewhat unusual in commons as it is rather a large

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Costin Manolache
Conor MacNeill wrote: > purely PMC role. All releases of Jakarta sub-projects must be approved by > the PMC. This isn't something that has been done in Jakarta to date, One good first step in this direction would be to at least Cc: the pmc list on all [Vote result] messages, so all pmc should be

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Conor MacNeill
Stephen Colebourne wrote: Unless I am mistaken, being a PMC member implies an overseing role for the whole of jakarta, No, not quite, IMHO. The PMC as a *whole* has an oversight role for the whole of Jakarta but individual PMC members do not need to oversee all of Jakarta. In fact this is the

RE: PMC Nomination - Craig McClanahan

2002-02-07 Thread John Grove
Delagrange Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PMC Nomination - Craig McClanahan On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Morgan Delagrange wrote: > Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 16:16:55 -0600 > From: Morgan Delagrange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >

RE: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache

2002-02-07 Thread Paulo Gaspar
To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache > > > > After some thinking, I'm going to accept the nomination, even > > if I don't quite believe jakarta needs 'management', 'committee' or > > any other function

Re: PMC Nomination - Morgan Delagrange

2002-02-07 Thread Morgan Delagrange
Hi all, Well, I shouldn't buck the trend; here is some info about me. I've been a Jakarta committer for approximately 13 months, 2 weeks. I started out on Taglibs, where I contributed a couple of taglibs to round out the "scope" taglibs: session, application, request and application. Soon aft

Re: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache

2002-02-07 Thread Remy Maucherat
> After some thinking, I'm going to accept the nomination, even > if I don't quite believe jakarta needs 'management', 'committee' or > any other function besides 'jakarta commiter'. Lol. Sellout ! You're joining the establishment now ! ;-) I think I'll vote for you :) Remy -- To unsubscribe,

RE: PMC Nomination - Paulo Gaspar

2002-02-07 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Ok, now that I understand better how a PMC nomination works, it looks like I have to say something about me besides just saying that I accept - which I do. I work on software development for almost 15 years and I only started using Apache software less than 2 years ago. I got addicted very fast.

RE: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache

2002-02-07 Thread GOMEZ Henri
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 7:37 AM >To: Jakarta General List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache > > >After some thinking, I'm going to accept the nomination, even >if I don't quite believ

Re: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache

2002-02-06 Thread Peter Donald
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:49, Bill Barker wrote: > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:36

Re: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache

2002-02-06 Thread Bill Barker
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:36 PM Subject: Re: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache > After s

Re: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache

2002-02-06 Thread cmanolache
After some thinking, I'm going to accept the nomination, even if I don't quite believe jakarta needs 'management', 'committee' or any other function besides 'jakarta commiter'. My Apache background: I've used Apache, linux, java servlets since the beginning ( or close enough ). I've learned tha

RE: PMC Nomination (Bodewig and MacNeill)

2002-02-06 Thread Bojan Smojver
On Thu, 2002-02-07 at 11:50, Conor MacNeill wrote: > I spell colour with a "u", licence with a "c" unless it is a verb and I like > Christmas at the beach. On ya mate! Bojan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

RE: PMC Nomination (Bodewig and MacNeill)

2002-02-06 Thread Conor MacNeill
I accept Magesh's nomination. Thanks to Magesh and Gier for their nomination and +1. Background I became involved with Apache through Tomcat in late 99, contributing some patches, bug fixes, etc. I had some problems building Tomcat with Ant, so I focussed on fixing it and that began a long journ

Re: PMC Nomination - Ted Husted

2002-02-06 Thread Ted Husted
Assuming there is a sufficient number of willing candidates to fill the seven slots, I would respectfully decline my nomination, so as to ensure someone else the chance to serve. It's been my experience that the best way to build community is to not only participate yourself, but also to give ot

Re: Re: PMC Nomination - Craig McClanahan

2002-02-06 Thread acoliver
>On Wed, 06 Feb 2002 09:29:39 -0800 Micael Padraig Og mac Grene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >McClanahan ROCKS! > +1 >At 12:32 PM 2/6/02 -0500, you wrote: >>Craig McClanahan wrote: >> > >> > At Apache, I got involved in the Apache JServ project before there was a >> > Jakarta (along with other lon

Re: PMC Nomination - Craig McClanahan

2002-02-06 Thread Micael Padraig Og mac Grene
McClanahan ROCKS! At 12:32 PM 2/6/02 -0500, you wrote: >Craig McClanahan wrote: > > > > At Apache, I got involved in the Apache JServ project before there was a > > Jakarta (along with other long timers like Jon, Pier, and Stefano), and >at > > the ApacheCon just after the Tomcat source code was

Re: PMC Nomination - Craig McClanahan

2002-02-06 Thread Sam Ruby
Craig McClanahan wrote: > > At Apache, I got involved in the Apache JServ project before there was a > Jakarta (along with other long timers like Jon, Pier, and Stefano), and at > the ApacheCon just after the Tomcat source code was finally handed over to > Apache, told James Duncan Davidson in fro

Re: PMC Nomination - Craig McClanahan

2002-02-06 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Morgan Delagrange wrote: > Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 16:16:55 -0600 > From: Morgan Delagrange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Morgan Delagrange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: General Jakarta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PMC Nomination - Morgan Delagrange

2002-02-05 Thread Ted Husted
+1 for Morgan Delagrange without reservation or hesitation :o) Morgan's work in the Taglibs and Commons subprojects has been outstanding and selfless. "Waldhoff, Rodney" wrote: > > I would like to nominate Morgan Delagrange for the PMC. He's a founding > member of and an active participant i

Re: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache

2002-02-04 Thread hgo
+1 We should call Costin Professor since he's a terrific example of patience and excellence, a very consensual man and a real OSS and ASF spirit defensor jean-frederic clere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > I would like to nominate Costin Manolache for election to the PMC. > > Costin has a

Re: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache

2002-02-04 Thread hgomez
+1 We should call Costin Professor since he's a terrific example of patience and excellence, a very consensual man and a real OSS and ASF spirit defensor jean-frederic clere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > I would like to nominate Costin Manolache for election to the PMC. > > Costin has a

RE: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache

2002-02-04 Thread Ignacio J. Ortega
+1 Saludos , Ignacio J. Ortega > -Mensaje original- > De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]En > nombre de jean-frederic clere > Enviado el: lunes 4 de febrero de 2002 18:59 > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Asunto: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache > > >

Re: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache

2002-02-04 Thread Bojan Smojver
Another legend. +1 by all means. Bojan On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 04:59, jean-frederic clere wrote: > I would like to nominate Costin Manolache for election to the PMC. > > Costin has a wide area knowledge of ASF projects (Apr, httpd 1.3/2.0, > tomcat3.x/4.0, Ant...). > He has been contributing to T

Re: PMC Nomination - Morgan Delagrange

2002-02-04 Thread Morgan Delagrange
I accept this nomination, which was originally sent to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. Thanks Rod! - Original Message - From: "Waldhoff, Rodney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Jakarta General List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:15 AM Subject: PMC Nomination - Mor

Re: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache

2002-02-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 2/4/02 12:59 PM, "jean-frederic clere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to nominate Costin Manolache for election to the PMC. > > Costin has a wide area knowledge of ASF projects (Apr, httpd 1.3/2.0, > tomcat3.x/4.0, Ant...). > He has been contributing to Tomcat since the very first

RE: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache

2002-02-04 Thread Paulo Gaspar
I second that nomination. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of jean-frederic clere > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 6:59 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: PMC Nomination - Costin Manola

Re: PMC Nomination - Craig McClanahan

2002-02-04 Thread Oleg V Alexeev
Hello Morgan, +1 Saturday, February 02, 2002, 1:16:55 AM, you wrote: MD> I would like to nominate Craig McClanahan for re-election to the PMC. MD> Craig works on a lot more projects than I do (than _most_ people do), so I MD> cannot give a complete rundown of his accomplishments. I can say, h

Re: PMC Nomination - Craig McClanahan

2002-02-01 Thread Bojan Smojver
The man is an absolute legend. I second that nomination! Bojan On Sat, 2002-02-02 at 09:16, Morgan Delagrange wrote: > I would like to nominate Craig McClanahan for re-election to the PMC. > > Craig works on a lot more projects than I do (than _most_ people do), so I > cannot give a complete ru

Re: PMC Nomination - Craig McClanahan

2002-02-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
+1 On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 17:16, Morgan Delagrange wrote: > I would like to nominate Craig McClanahan for re-election to the PMC. > > Craig works on a lot more projects than I do (than _most_ people do), so I > cannot give a complete rundown of his accomplishments. I can say, however, > that his

RE: PMC Nomination - Craig McClanahan

2002-02-01 Thread Paulo Gaspar
+1 to Craig! > -Original Message- > From: Morgan Delagrange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:17 PM > To: General Jakarta > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: PMC Nomination - Craig McClanahan > > > I would like to nominate Craig McClanahan for re-election to t

Re: PMC Nomination - Craig McClanahan

2002-02-01 Thread Kathleen Zelony
>I would like to nominate Craig McClanahan for re-election to the PMC. I give this nomination a STRONG approval. -kz >X-Authentication-Warning: engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM: noaccess owned process doing -bs >X-Authentication-Warning: engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM: noaccess@localhost didn't use HELO protocol >M

Re: PMC Nomination - Craig McClanahan

2002-02-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 2/1/02 5:16 PM, "Morgan Delagrange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to nominate Craig McClanahan for re-election to the PMC. > > Craig works on a lot more projects than I do (than _most_ people do), so I > cannot give a complete rundown of his accomplishments. I can say, however, >

RE: PMC Nomination - Craig McClanahan

2002-02-01 Thread Scott Sanders
+1. Craig is good, sometimes too good :) Scott > -Original Message- > From: Morgan Delagrange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:17 PM > To: General Jakarta > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: PMC Nomination - Craig McClanahan > > > I would like to nominate

Re: PMC Nomination - Ted Husted

2002-02-01 Thread Oleg V Alexeev
Hello Morgan, +1 Thursday, January 31, 2002, 8:28:03 PM, you wrote: MD> I would like to nominate Ted Husted for re-election to the PMC. MD> Ted has a strong (and active) committment to documentation, probably the MD> most often neglected component of any project. He also was a driving force M

Re: PMC Nomination - Ceki Gulcu

2002-02-01 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Geir, Daniel, thanks for the nomination but I have to decline. Other commitments are taking much of my time and I could not dedicate the required attention to PMC related matters. Besides, one does not have to be a PMC member to contribute effectively to Jakarta. By the way, I like to congratul

Re: PMC Nomination - Ted Husted

2002-01-31 Thread Martin Cooper
I'll second that nomination, for all the same reasons. -- Martin Cooper - Original Message - From: "Morgan Delagrange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General Jakarta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:28 AM Subject: PMC Nomination - Ted Husted >

Re: PMC Nomination

2002-01-31 Thread Daniel Rall
Stefano Mazzocchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would like to nominate > > - Jon Stevens > - Sam Ruby > > for the upcoming PMC elections. > > The reason is simple: nobody else has done more for jakarta. +1 for both of the old dogs. Dan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: PMC Nomination - Ceki Gulcu

2002-01-31 Thread Daniel Rall
"Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I nominate Ceki Gulku to be a candidate for the PMC election. > > Ceki is the force of nature behind log4j, a member of the ASF, until > recently a member of the PMC, and one who I find is generally clear thinking > and fair when it comes to open

RE: PMC Nomination

2002-01-31 Thread Paulo Gaspar
...and this for both Sam and Jon: +1 Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 2:28 PM > To: Apache Jakarta > Subject: PMC Nomination > > > I would like to nominate > > - Jon Stevens > - Sam Ruby > >

RE: PMC Nomination

2002-01-31 Thread Paulo Gaspar
...and this: +1 Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Bojan Smojver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 1:31 AM > To: Jakarta General > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: PMC Nomination > > > I would like to nominate Geir Magnusson Jr. for the PMC. > > G

RE: PMC Nomination - Scott Sanders

2002-01-31 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Ok, it seems that now I can do this: +1 Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Scott Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 7:36 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: PMC Nomination - Scott Sanders > > > I would like to nomin

Re: PMC Nomination - Jason van Zyl

2002-01-31 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 1/31/02 5:00 PM, "Kurt Schrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to nominate Jason Van Zyl for the PMC. Jason is a current > PMC member, is a (very) active Turbine developer, founded the Velocity > project, has participated in any number of Jakarta projects, and strikes > m

Re: PMC Nomination - Peter Donald

2002-01-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/31/02 4:16 PM, "Gerhard Froehlich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I wanna nominate Donald äääh Peter ;). Peter is a PMC member > in the moment! > I second the nomination of Peter Donald. -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software C

RE: PMC Nomination (Bodewig and MacNeill)

2002-01-31 Thread Scott Sanders
> -Original Message- > From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:00 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: PMC Nomination (Bodewig and MacNeill) > > > On 1/31/02 4:24 PM, "Magesh Umasankar" <[EM

Re: PMC Nomination (Bodewig and MacNeill)

2002-01-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/31/02 4:24 PM, "Magesh Umasankar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to nominate the following two > individuals to the PMC. > > - Stefan Bodewig > - Conor MacNeill > I don't know Stefan at all, so I cannot in good conscience second it. I am sure that someone else will. Howeve

Re: PMC Nomination - Peter Donald

2002-01-31 Thread Paul Hammant
> > >That he is a good coder, we don't have to discuss, I guess! > Don't forget prolific! +1 - Paul -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

RE: PMC Nomination - Paulo Gaspar

2002-01-31 Thread Paulo Gaspar
anuary 31, 2002 10:41 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: RE: PMC Nomination - Paulo Gaspar > > > You mean that you accept? (You need to accept or decline) > > > -Original Message- > > From: Paulo Gaspar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thurs

RE: PMC Nomination - Jason van Zyl

2002-01-31 Thread Scott Sanders
+1. > -Original Message- > From: Kurt Schrader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 2:01 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: PMC Nomination - Jason van Zyl > > > Hi, > > I would like to nominate Jason Van Zyl for the PMC. Jason is > a current PMC member

RE: PMC Nomination - Paulo Gaspar

2002-01-31 Thread Scott Sanders
You mean that you accept? (You need to accept or decline) > -Original Message- > From: Paulo Gaspar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 2:01 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: RE: PMC Nomination - Paulo Gaspar > > > Now I

RE: PMC Nomination - Paulo Gaspar

2002-01-31 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Now I am speechless! (Never happened before as you well know!) Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:56 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: PMC Nomination - Paulo Gaspar > > > Paulo is an individual who

RE: PMC Nomination - Paulo Gaspar

2002-01-31 Thread Ignacio J. Ortega
+1 Saludos , Ignacio J. Ortega > -Mensaje original- > De: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Enviado el: jueves 31 de enero de 2002 21:56 > Para: Jakarta General List > Asunto: PMC Nomination - Paulo Gaspar > > > Paulo is an individual who uses a rather large portion of the > code

Re: PMC Nomination - Peter Donald

2002-01-31 Thread Magesh Umasankar
+1 Cheers, Magesh *** * Yawn: The only time some married men ever * * get to open their mouth. * *** - Original Message - From: "Gerhard Froehlich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jakart

RE: PMC Nomination - Paulo Gaspar

2002-01-31 Thread Scott Sanders
:) I know. I was referring to the size of Paulo's as-of-yet contribution to what Jakarta can become :) Scott > -Original Message- > From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 1:05 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: RE: PM

RE: PMC Nomination - Paulo Gaspar

2002-01-31 Thread Sam Ruby
Scott Sanders wrote: > > HUGE +1. I'm sorry, but just because you have been nominated to the PMC doesn't mean that your vote is any bigger than anyone else's around here. :-P - Sam Ruby -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

RE: PMC Nomination - Paulo Gaspar

2002-01-31 Thread Scott Sanders
HUGE +1. He has the biggest mouth I have heard in a long time, and an excellent outsiders viewpoint. Scott Sanders > -Original Message- > From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:56 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: PMC Nomination - Paulo G

RE: PMC Nomination - Scott Sanders

2002-01-31 Thread Paulo Gaspar
LOL Sam as an ego! Have fun, Paulo P.S.: I would vote on all these guys if I could. Scott, Sam, Stefano and Jon. > -Original Message- > From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:49 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re:

RE: PMC Nomination

2002-01-31 Thread Ignacio J. Ortega
+1 Saludos , Ignacio J. Ortega > -Mensaje original- > De: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Enviado el: jueves 31 de enero de 2002 14:28 > Para: Apache Jakarta > Asunto: PMC Nomination > > > I would like to nominate > > - Jon Stevens > - Sam Ruby > > for the upcoming

Re: PMC Nomination - Scott Sanders

2002-01-31 Thread Sam Ruby
Scott Sanders wrote: > > I would like to nominate Scott Sanders (myself) for the PMC election. > > Jon, Sam, and Stefano are my open source 'idols'. I *love* it! A self nomination that was crafted in such a way to guarantee the necessary "seconds". I'll be glad to do my part: +1 - Sam Ruby

Re: Re: PMC Nomination - Scott Sanders

2002-01-31 Thread acoliver
+1 >On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:14:36 -0800 Jon Scott Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >on 2002.1.31 10:36 AM, "Scott Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I would like to nominate Scott Sanders (myself) for the PMC election. > > 1 > >-jon > > >-- >To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: PMC Nomination - Scott Sanders

2002-01-31 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2002.1.31 10:36 AM, "Scott Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to nominate Scott Sanders (myself) for the PMC election. +1 -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: PMC Nomination

2002-01-31 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
second. On Thu, 2002-01-31 at 08:27, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > I would like to nominate > > - Jon Stevens > - Sam Ruby > > for the upcoming PMC elections. > > The reason is simple: nobody else has done more for jakarta. > > Sure, they have diametrically different styles and attitudes, but

Re: PMC Nomination

2002-01-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/31/02 8:27 AM, "Stefano Mazzocchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to nominate > > - Jon Stevens > - Sam Ruby I second both. Stefano, you beat me to it. I was putting together a longer list :) geir > > for the upcoming PMC elections. > > The reason is simple: nobody else ha

RE: PMC Nomination

2002-01-31 Thread Stephane Bailliez
> -Original Message- > From: Conor MacNeill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > I would like to nominate Diane Holt for the PMC. Diane is a [..] I second that too. Stephane -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: PMC Nomination

2002-01-31 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Conor MacNeill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to nominate Diane Holt for the PMC. I second that. Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: PMC Nomination

2002-01-30 Thread Daniel Rall
Bojan Smojver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would like to nominate Geir Magnusson Jr. for the PMC. > > Geir is current PMC member. His dedication to Jakarta projects, > especially Velocity, is undoubted. His support levels on Velocity > project are unsurpassed, with response times in minutes. H

Re: PMC Nomination

2002-01-30 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2002.1.30 4:31 PM, "Bojan Smojver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to nominate Geir Magnusson Jr. for the PMC. > > Geir is current PMC member. His dedication to Jakarta projects, > especially Velocity, is undoubted. His support levels on Velocity > project are unsurpassed, with resp