[gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2008-11-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
This is your one-day friendly reminder ! The monthly Gentoo Council meeting is tomorrow in #gentoo-council on irc.freenode.net. See the channel topic for the exact time (but it's probably 2000 UTC). If you're supposed to show up, please show up. If you're not supposed to show up, then show up

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please review: function epunt_la_files for eutils.eclass

2008-11-12 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On P, 2008-11-09 at 18:34 +0200, Peter Alfredsen wrote: On Sunday 09 November 2008, Fabian Groffen wrote: On 09-11-2008 18:04:05 +0200, Peter Alfredsen wrote: + # If this is a non-ELF system, chances are good that the .la files will be needed. + if type -P scanelf /dev/null I think

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please review: function epunt_la_files for eutils.eclass

2008-11-12 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Wednesday 12 November 2008, Mart Raudsepp wrote: I heavily object to having any such function introduced or used or equivalent .la removals conducted without a good rationale and explanation of why this is the approach taken. I see no such explanation anywhere, you are just blatantly

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-12 Thread Ben Sanchez
Are you considering to replace the mediawiki with a different wiki system such as moinmoin? On Wednesday 12 November 2008 7:49:58 am Michael Hammer wrote: * Gokdeniz Karadag [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081112 13:06]: Petteri Räty demis ki:: Michael Hammer wrote: We should develop some kind of

[gentoo-dev] Re: An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-12 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Jeremy Olexa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have been following gentoo-wiki's new procedures and rebuild process and I think they are on a good track right now. I am throwing this out there, can we ask Mike Valstar for a dump of all his stuff, slap it on gentoo hardware under a wiki.gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-12 Thread Jan Kundrát
Michael Hammer wrote: The wiki can be a staging ground for user contributed documents, which can become part of official docs after a review and cleanup by developers. ...as long as they use a compatible license, is not the case right now (and never was, IIRC). That's the way I intended my

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please review: function epunt_la_files for eutils.eclass

2008-11-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 18:34 Sun 09 Nov , Peter Alfredsen wrote: I've been told that .la files are really only needed on non-ELF systems and with plugin systems that use dlopen. And for people who want to build things statically. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please review: function epunt_la_files for eutils.eclass

2008-11-12 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 12/11/2008 15:40, Peter Alfredsen a écrit : But let me point out that in most leaf-packages, removing la files will cause no pain, but will ensure that they do not have to be rebuilt if a .la-listed dependency loses its .la file. Mart, others and myself have already tried removing .la files

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please review: function epunt_la_files for eutils.eclass

2008-11-12 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On K, 2008-11-12 at 15:40 +0100, Peter Alfredsen wrote: On Wednesday 12 November 2008, Mart Raudsepp wrote: I heavily object to having any such function introduced or used or equivalent .la removals conducted without a good rationale and explanation of why this is the approach taken. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please review: function epunt_la_files for eutils.eclass

2008-11-12 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Wednesday 12 November 2008, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 18:34 Sun 09 Nov , Peter Alfredsen wrote: I've been told that .la files are really only needed on non-ELF systems and with plugin systems that use dlopen. And for people who want to build things statically. That's true, but we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please review: function epunt_la_files for eutils.eclass

2008-11-12 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Wednesday 12 November 2008, Rémi Cardona wrote: Le 12/11/2008 15:40, Peter Alfredsen a écrit : But let me point out that in most leaf-packages, removing la files will cause no pain, but will ensure that they do not have to be rebuilt if a .la-listed dependency loses its .la file. Mart,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please review: function epunt_la_files for eutils.eclass

2008-11-12 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Wednesday 12 November 2008, Mart Raudsepp wrote: On K, 2008-11-12 at 15:40 +0100, Peter Alfredsen wrote: It's a utility function. I've done all I can to ensure it'll be used wisely. Whether it is used wisely is between you and ( $ROOT or $666 ). But let me point out that in most

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-12 Thread Petteri Räty
Michael Hammer wrote: * Mark Loeser [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081112 00:46]: What are others feelings on this? I like the idea! What issues do you see with having a wiki? Pages of poor quality with wrong informations. Do you see anyway to resolve the issue you see with us having a

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-12 Thread Michael Hammer
* Gokdeniz Karadag [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081112 13:06]: Petteri Räty demis ki:: Michael Hammer wrote: We should develop some kind of review process and at least the possiblity to lock and hide pages of poor quality. In the most cases the howtos are related to some herds. What if we have a

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-12 Thread Gokdeniz Karadag
Petteri Räty demis ki:: Michael Hammer wrote: * Mark Loeser [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081112 00:46]: What are others feelings on this? I like the idea! What issues do you see with having a wiki? Pages of poor quality with wrong informations. Do you see anyway to resolve the issue you see

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-12 Thread Josh Saddler
Gokdeniz Karadag wrote: The wiki can be a staging ground for user contributed documents, which can become part of official docs after a review and cleanup by developers. . . . no, I'd think not. It takes time and effort to produce one of our polished, professional documents. That's duplicating

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-12 Thread Joe Peterson
Josh Saddler wrote: It takes time and effort to produce one of our polished, professional documents. That's duplicating the time and effort that it takes to write a decent wiki article -- pointless duplication. One of the things I'm hearing from just about every other user and developer is

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-12 Thread kashani
Jan Kundrát wrote: Michael Hammer wrote: The wiki can be a staging ground for user contributed documents, which can become part of official docs after a review and cleanup by developers. ...as long as they use a compatible license, is not the case right now (and never was, IIRC). That's

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-12 Thread Jan Kundrát
kashani wrote: How easy is it to checkout current GDP docs Append ?passthru=1 to the end of the URL. and make changes to them? I take it you want to make a patch. In such case, edit the file and submit the diff via Bugzilla. Cheers, -jkt -- cd /local/pub more beer /dev/mouth

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-12 Thread Michael Hammer
* Mark Loeser [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081112 00:46]: What are others feelings on this? I like the idea! What issues do you see with having a wiki? Pages of poor quality with wrong informations. Do you see anyway to resolve the issue you see with us having a wiki? We should develop some

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-12 Thread Eray Aslan
On 12.11.2008 11:44, Michael Hammer wrote: * Mark Loeser [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081112 00:46]: What are others feelings on this? I like the idea! What issues do you see with having a wiki? Pages of poor quality with wrong informations. Do you see anyway to resolve the issue you see

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2008-11-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 13:56 Mon 10 Nov , Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 05:30 Sat 01 Nov , Mike Frysinger wrote: If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev list to see. If anyone has topics they want a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [v4] Planning for automatic assignment computation of bugs

2008-11-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 23:01 Sat 18 Oct , Robin H. Johnson wrote: 5. Javascript then appends the server results into the Additional Comments box: a suggested assignee and suggested CC values, with logic as to why. 6. The wrangler can copy and paste the data into the fields, editing further as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please review: function epunt_la_files for eutils.eclass

2008-11-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 17:24 Wed 12 Nov , Peter Alfredsen wrote: On Wednesday 12 November 2008, Donnie Berkholz wrote: And for people who want to build things statically. That's true, but we generally don't want to do that, so that's fine. If needed for a package, we just don't punt la files for it and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please review: function epunt_la_files for eutils.eclass

2008-11-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 18:16 Wed 12 Nov , Peter Alfredsen wrote: On Wednesday 12 November 2008, Rémi Cardona wrote: Mart had already proposed a static-lib USE flag. Donnie just suggested on IRC we turn this use flag into a FEATURES flag. That's problematic. You can't turn off a FEATURES flag for